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2701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Retail users out? on: January 24, 2022, 05:17:40 AM
After tested to max. pain limit during last 3 months and continuously suffering financially and mentally, I think the retail users have given up. If so, this is not good scenario. If soon there are no new & much positive vibes in the market, the things can go lower. Is not??
Who has left and who has joined is not the thing to think about. They can be retail investors but they can also be financial institutions. Consider the fact that the dump made the price drop from 40k to 35k - that volume is not possible to for a retail investor to posses.

There was a lot of inorganic growth in the last few months with certain tech companies putting in their money. Why not consider that they are reason for the bailout? Even then the answer does not solve the problem of low price.

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But my point of view is that in the highly sophisticated and versatile market there is a clause who stand till end will grow with market growth.
Up and down are the only ways the market can move in order to give profit to those who are betting on it. Without movement people start questioning bitcoin and its use which is absurd, because bitcoin was meant for a purpose that has become secondary. Even then, the drop in price is an opportunity for buying and that is what traders should plan for.
2702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The altcoin market has become scammer's playground on: January 24, 2022, 05:12:39 AM
It is what it is and will always happen like this because we the investors are the ones fuelling it all in the name of trying to make quick money, now most people coming into the cryptocurrency space are looking to invest in meme coins, and some new projects that they believe will jump a 1000+% in a couple of days and we have seen this too so, creators will continue to do it and rip off the desperate investors, the project dies once the take-off with your investment and the circle continues.
It is a type of survival for the fittest. Only those who understand this market and have been investing in those coins that have been worthy of putting money in for long term will survive. Same thing is seen in fiat markets too where penny stocks end up drawing newbie blood at high prices only to come down again. Those who go in for easy money only get ripped off their money.

The investors who go it when ICO market was booming have long left too. They were mostly putting in average of 100$ per project hoping it to become 10x and cover the losses from another - a type of a gamble. But it turned out that they all failed and now the investors cant even approach them legally.

I think about this situation is that anyone said that the all altcoins market are scammer its absolutely rong and i accepted that point an that time many projects come to market and they are scam for people so i extremely said the project come and going to the scam so they are clearly market is people say bad.
The only one who is bad is the person making the decision to buy a shitcoin or be part of a shitcoin bounty. Nobody forced to join that but they did be it for the temptation of easy money or anything else.

You have to appreciate the scammers who fooled so many investors but got away without getting caught. It should be a lesson for everyone.
2703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Just saying on: January 23, 2022, 07:29:32 AM
In the future maybe 2025 the next big thing in crypto won't be what we've make lots of money from like the metaverse, Play2earn NFTS, they will be around but won't be the main focus, it might be web3.0 and other that's not even been acknowledged yet, just saying this because some people are already planning to pack many meme coins and other for the future your expectations might not come true
Back in 2015 people were saying that ICOs were the future and bitcoin was going to be dead in the next 10years. Now in 2022, we are assured that the opposite became true.

Similarly DeFi, NFT are going to face a similar crunch unless they make themselves relevant to the economy. P2E is a guise of what Faucets and PTC sites were back in 2010-15 before bitcoin price in fiat boomed beyond 10k USD. They might seem flashy today but they will also die out a slow death, the real winner will be the one who created them by collecting the data of the users and selling that to bigger companies.

Similarly memeshitcoins are a short term deal. Get a profit and exit them. Dont hope for a long term development to occur in such projects but move to bitcoin when you get cash at hand. If these projects cannot develop any market making capability in order to raise the demand they will follow the same fate.
2704  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM ALERT] Fake Walmart metaverse ICO website... on: January 23, 2022, 07:19:31 AM
They use this address
Code:
645 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10022
Which I doubt is the real place where they are located. Local residents might have a better idea, but from what I could gather, Olympic Tower in New York is a building where many offices are located and this is a common tactic used by scammers so that people dont get any suspicions.

Although we really dont need people to go and check that, we can be assured that the project is a scam from the number of buzzwords they are using.
AR, VR - check
DeFi, NFT, Web3.0 - check
"Prime" paid OTT service (LOL) - check
ICO - check

They seem to be selling al sorts of tech. These guys should get the "maximum new tech in a single project" award for this year. Grin
2705  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy low, Sell high? on: January 22, 2022, 06:01:12 AM
I keep seeing a lot of people who are fearing the price right now, many people who are getting out, and plenty that thinks it will crash even harder.
I will just intervene to ask you, do you have the proof that those people actually got out? Dont forget that many people will attempt to reduce the price even more by just saying this so that weak hands sell their coins and they can buy at even lower price. This is how the dip propagates.

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Why does everyone think the same? I mean it shouldn't be like this right? I have been long enough to hear "buy low, sell high" a million times so far, and it has always been said when the market is low, but for some reason, people still do not feel hopeful when the price is low.
Every day there are new entrants in the market, who have low exposure to speculative markets like stocks or commodities. Crypto should only be taken by those who are vets in such topics, but this is not the case in reality. Such people see a big market crash and the "final doomsday" and they forget to see the previous crash and rise of bitcoin.

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I can't promise that it will right away, but I am not selling, in fact, I am buying more. Focus on what can happen, and not what has happened, that way you can have some hope for the future.
I already have buy orders placed on one side and sell orders at much higher prices. I dont care if the price goes to 1$, I will buy and I will sell at a profit. But this mentality comes after some years of mainstream trading before adding to crypto trading.
2706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't punic, just hodl on: January 22, 2022, 05:52:36 AM
The entire market got inflated last year by government money.  Anything that went up that fast was not going to stay up there forever.  It had to consolidate because there are people that weren't planning on staying in long-term.
Government money is a vague terms to use, you dont have proof of the same either, so better not to mention this. But can say that many millionaires did put in their money into bitcoin with anecdotal evidence but we cannot certify that they were the ones who sold.

The point still remains that a dump is happening and continuing as we speak. 35k USD seems to be the next level to slow the dump. So buying should be done below that level. Currently there is a lot of panic selling happening and this is a common thing that happens after every dump and such bitcoin owners will never learn their lesson that they should not sell during a dump but only during a rise.

Whether buying shitcoins at this stage is profitable or not, I would say no. If you are looking for a quick flip, go for it but not for a long term.
2707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The faith of Altcoins in 2022 on: January 22, 2022, 05:45:52 AM
And when you know the best project will survive, then you should also use it to buy coins from that project because when the project can survive in current conditions, then the project will also live very strongly when market conditions improve.
It is the most difficult thing to determine as an investor. It therefore becomes a gamble to put in coins on all the horses and then see which ones makes the most, in order to cancel out the losing bets in value. But in crypto there may never be a winning horse, aside from bitcoin. Try doing the same to altcoins, you will no doubt lose all your money.

In that sense, mainstream fiat markets are better to invest in than any shitcoin. But if you are looking for the winning horse, you need to buy bitcoin only. Altcoins projects that get announced and started only end up being a stagnant low priced coin in the exchange and while investors remain hopeful, there is serious lack of development and bankruptcy sets in.
2708  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When Greed Comes First in Trading, the Result is Bankruptcy on: January 21, 2022, 11:07:08 AM
As far as am concerned, In anything we do if we want to succeed... the elements of greed should never be present, once greed gets the better of us we tend to make wrong choices in trading for example which could cost us a fortune of our hard earned money.
Well said, we should not be greedy with anything we gain in life and then only we can be happy and satisfied with what we have. That mental peace is also important and it will be a big reason to keep any person sane during their lifetime.

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Hence to over come greed we need to learn patience, and generally learn how to read the charts.
The power to control greed comes with discipline and it is not a tough emotion to control. Some people may be more inclined towards it but I never had a problem with it, however that does not mean others will not face problems.

Even then if someone ends up taking impulsive decisions based on greed, they need to stay away from speculative markets and gambling - because they will end up in a bad situation. Reading charts will not be a thing anymore, they will be placing orders without doing research, something that newbies willing to make a profit end up doing in their early days.
2709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market sentiments ? on: January 21, 2022, 11:01:05 AM
Things started looking good, giving a bit relief!!
I ask you, relief from what? Is it relief from the anxiety that if the price drops you will lose money? If the answer is yes, then you need to stop trading - you heard right, trading is not for you if you cannot remain composed during market movements.

Remember that movements in the market allow us traders to make profits. If you invested knee-deep into crypto hoping for some quick flips then it is not for you.

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But wait!!! Again sudden dip of  $5000 in a few hours??
Some people panic, while others know it is the next opportunity to buy at a lower price. It all depends on your perspective and those who do not have that will fail as a trader.

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How can we explain it: Are bad actors manipulating it or it just the market sentiments towards downward making such huge pricefall?
The term "bad actors" makes no sense. In fact why do you even think of someone dumping their coins just to end up in a loss? It is a man-made delusion, that needs to stop.

But it is possible that someone dumped, now the question is not why or how they dumped. The question is at what point you should buy again in order to sell in a future bull market. Because if you dont, then when the price cycles back you will have nothing but wind in your hands to sell.
2710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is an Altseason possible and which altcoins can surprise us on: January 21, 2022, 10:54:01 AM
Today, we are witnessing a long downtrend in the crypto market. BTC price approached the key trend level. Indicators will show us that the market is overbought, and I think that a market reversal is fully possible.
Price is 39k USD for now, if this continues we might see whether the 30k support levels are well though of.

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At the same time, the BTC dominance on the bottom.
It does not indicate anything other than what you read. BTC "dominance" is a wrong term to use anyway even though some aggregators keep on using it.

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And the alt indicator of the season will show its greater probability.
Like some foretold prophecy? Sadly, I have heard the same rhetoric before and it does not end well. Because bitcoin price is lower than the month's average it does not indicate that altcoins are going to be good for the rest of this month. They will bleed out and then wait till bitcoin rises again.

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What do you think about this, is it possible to start the alt season and what altcoins can surprise us? Personally, I think that these will be altcoins that showed growth during the downtrend:- snip -
That surprise you are waiting for, people have been waiting for the same since several years now. The term alt-season itself is of wrong use, a neologism that carries no value. If you want to buy altcoins, buy it. But whether you will see them grow huge in price, the answer is usually a very guarded one.
2711  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade-in between the lines on: January 20, 2022, 03:47:56 AM
It quite clear to all of us that trading is not an easy task and if an individual lack a good trading skills it may bead to loses, this aspect has made many to decide to hold rather than trading to avoid mistakes.
Safer bet, yes. Imagine what you could earn by holding for the last 10years on a bunch of bitcoin bought at two digit prices and selling them on the last ATH this last year. It is safe and profitable, but it needs immense patience and faith in the coin's future to be able to hold an investment for so long.

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But in doing that I have observed that while the crypto currency market is highly volatile so if you can flow with the wave of the market one can still make good profits but again its not a guarantee and not an investment advice.
A good option as well. If you just buy at every 10,000$ levels then you can possibly sell again when the rise happens. Like buy at 30k when the market is dropping and sell at 40k when bullish, you get a good 10k difference in price and on average trading with 0.1BTC per trade gives you a 1k profit excluding trading fees. Not bad but it will take a full cycle to complete this process, so needs patience. You would need to check the market around a couple of times per day and just place the order.

Either options are good and I think that the third option being day trading, needs a lot of work on part of the trader. These two are good options for the average retail investor.
2712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I keep getting calls telling me there are are few bitcoins blocked in my name. on: January 20, 2022, 03:36:36 AM
How, where, and is it possible to check if I really have any bitcoins blocked in my name? (If yes, then how)
This statement shows the problem in your mentality. You wish that you had bitcoins in "your name" and you wish to get access to them. Scammers will in future attempt to rub that greed inside you in order to scam you.

There is no such thing as bitcoin's being stored in someone's name.

They are not even stored in your digital wallet if you have one. But they are linked to your private key, which you can generate when generating a wallet. I suggest you read more about this topic and understand that nobody can even claim that you are the owner of some bitcoins unless you give them a proof of the same, like signing a message with your address.

All you need to access your Bitcoins is the private key.
How do you get this key?
Like I said above, your greed is there and that is weapon the fraudstars will use to scam you again. Roll Eyes

You generate your key when creating a new wallet. You never share your private key without anyone, because the one who knows it can spend those coins immediately. So if you never created a wallet, you never owned a private key.
2713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin not going below 40.000 (probably) on: January 20, 2022, 03:27:28 AM
1. A lot of rich people bought probably at 40.000 and 30.000. So many of them will very likely do lobbying and marketing to keep the price up.
Assuming much without backing it up? Common type of confirmation bias seen among weak hand traders. 40k seems to be remaining strong, but it will not take long to draw the price even lower.

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2. News and future events should be already priced in, except a black swan.
The focus of crypto niche news has shifted from bitcoin to mostly about NFTs and shitcoins. I doubt that these developments have much effect on bitcoin price unless some random country decides to declare another ban on crypto or an exchange gets hacked.

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Why do you think Bitcoin will probably not going lower than 40.000?
I do not think that way. Bitcoin price can go both up or down. You have to make preparations for both sides to be profitable to you. Place buy orders below these levels and sell orders above this level. Once the cycle reverse, repeat the same and you will have sold your previous buy and bought your previous sale.
2714  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When Greed Comes First in Trading, the Result is Bankruptcy on: January 19, 2022, 10:45:57 AM
Always stick to the trading plan if theres a signal already given to you better to make a stop loss and take profit not all the time its ideal to stay and to hold becomes greedy might increase the amount of total damage to your assets and emotional state might cause a revenge trade just to urging your money back.
It should not become like gambling, spot trading should be an EV+ thing. Revenge trading, like you mention, is common in the first days of any trader, trying to fight against the movements. Usually a trader will make profit if they move the opposite of the trend. Meaning they buy when the market falls and sell and when the market rises. For a newbie in trading, these basic things can be tough to comprehend and therefore paper trading should be tried first.

However, like the OP says, there will be a group of uses who trade or gamble under impulses and they can end up ruining their finances by this, they need to be kept away from such platforms.
2715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The faith of Altcoins in 2022 on: January 19, 2022, 10:37:50 AM
It seems that for 2022, the trend will be slightly different from the trend that previously died, because in the past there were not many adoptions that could be used by companies and also not much was known by those who were already rich outside of cryptocurrencies.
The increase of the year number does not mean an increase in the legitimacy or future value of a project. Bitcoin was launched back in 2009 and see where it has reached today. Projects launching in the last five years have been facing a lot of issues including bankruptcy, lack of development and community attrition. You dont get a future value in such project but you will get it in bitcoin, and it is still worth buying even if price may be above 40k USD.

If you want to be on the safer zone, buy bitcoin. If you are willing to take the risk of losing money overnight when it crashes during your slumber, go with altcoins, but whatever do you, do not fall for the hype trains that begin all of a sudden and pump like crazy.
2716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SHOULDN'T THE DEVELOPMENT OF TOKENS BE MORE SUPERVISED ? on: January 19, 2022, 10:31:40 AM
It is true there are a lot of scammers in the market, that is undeniable, but there are also developers trying their best to use the blockchain for many different purposes and they need free reign to experiment, if this is not the case then this market will eventually die for lack of innovation.
This would be used as an excuse for scam mongerers to run their scams, that would not be a good thing for the future of altcoins, would it?

This is also the reason why we need a regulatory system, to allow projects to develop but at the same time put in some legal restrictions in order to discourage someone abandoning their project entirely and leaving investors hanging. Moreover the pump and dump projects would also be kept under control if done properly.

However we have not seen regulation start in any country and it is a tough thing to start too. But we ca be hopeful that it will be for the good in future in order to protect both developers and investors.
2717  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who is the best crypto trading signal provider? on: January 18, 2022, 10:47:12 AM
At the moment, there are a lot of crypto signal providers out there,
Compare this to the number of people selling fake gambling picks. See the similarity?

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which is making it hard for me to choose the right one.
Why do you even want to pick them? If making money was so easy, would the people giving such picks, not use them to already become millionaires? Dont forget that everyone on the internet is out there with a motive and no one does anything for free.

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A lot of these crypto trading signal providers have a good track record of giving out good signals, but some are only in it for the money. So, which is the best provider of crypto trading signals, and which one should you use?
You have answered your question yourself. All of them are in it for the money.

If you want to make money by trading you need to learn to read charts, identify support/resistance levels and the basic reading or indicators like RSI need to be known. Fundamentals are what is important for a newbie. Learn these and try to predict market movements yourself. It is not easy and neither is making money. But it is very easy to scam people by selling them fake picks - you get the idea? Tongue
2718  Economy / Economics / Re: 2022 Savings and investment plan on: January 18, 2022, 10:42:45 AM
Controlling finances every year for me is a bit difficult, without investing and trading money will not spin.
You dont have to take risky investments if you are not in a position to. Playing safe is possible in the market but your returns might not be too high. To play safe, buy low and sell high, but choose some proper points. Save money every month and cut down on costs that you can possibly eliminate.

You know what I have learned from the last year up to now? Don't panic. That's the main lesson that gets me through trigger-happy selling.
Both trigger happy groups are at the verge of collapsing when the market goes in the opposite direction, this can and must be prevented by placing orders only after choosing a proper entry or exit point respectively.

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And I'm not saying that you need to be one of those crypto preachers that yell from the top of their lungs not to sell, hodl forever, and such bullshit. It's not that, it's just the fact that if you miss out on one opportunity, that doesn't mean another won't present itself sometime in the future. Patience is key here, so don't dwell on missed opportunities, look forward to new ones. 
Those people are likely doing the opposite, so dont take their words to be always true, here only your decisions matter. And selling is as important as buying is in order to cycle the money, like @Alisha FR says "Spinning" Cheesy

Only with patience can people place proper buy/sell orders at a profitable range, otherwise they will end up panic buy/selling which only leads downhill.
2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Advice on what to consider when making an investment ? on: January 18, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
As you were advised here, the first is, of course, the community of the project. Next, the team and goals of the platform. It's good if you can use a ready-made product and read about it in different social networks. Here you were prompted some options, but the choice is always yours, so study very carefully.
The product gets higher priority if you ask me. Community depends on a lot of factors. It is easy these days to generate higher views and higher followers by inorganic paid means. Then following that would mislead an investor. If you ask about the owners and developers who are working on the project, well and good, but most of the times they will only be able to give you guarded answers that will not help decide on investing or not.

If you find the product useful for the population targeted and if there is a genuine need in that population for that product then the demand will rise on its own, the community will inflate and the market price of their token will rise. But this is close to zero in the crypto market because majority of such projects have already been done in the mainstream market.
2720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do people overestimate BTC? on: January 17, 2022, 05:44:35 AM
For me, bitcoin is 40 thousand.$ is already an achievement, the price of bitcoin is so unpredictable that the price of 100 thousand is quite real, it is a question of time.I think for such a price, we need good news or the adoption of bitcoin in developed countries as a form of payment.
If we see the long term trends then bitcoin has already multiplied its starting price by many times. Hence I take is that we are never really over-estimating its price. What can happen tomorrow is not known but rest assured, bitcoin is here to stay and possible do a large number of changes in the existing economy.

I don't think so, I've known cryptocurrencies since 2011 and at that time many people said that the price of bitcoin deserved a high price because it made all transactions easier, at that time there was a tweet saying that the price of bitcoin would reach $ 1 million in 10 years, unfortunately it unproven and will have to wait a little longer.
A million might be longshot to predict, but hoping to see the last all time high of 69k USD (<a sweet number Grin) once more would defenitely make the dreams of some traders come true and if the bulls are with us, we might cross 70k as well.

The point is that there needs to be an organic growth of price and not just overnight rise, because a sudden rise is bound to a sudden fall too but a gradual rise will see a gradual fall which can be corrected easily.
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