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27101  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: XFX hd 7970 for sale. daily mark down sale on: January 12, 2017, 04:06:34 AM
It is now $96 with free shipment  to all  of the 50 states in the usa.
27102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A review and an apology to forum member ITOP on: January 11, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
This is the item in the review.

http://www.itopshop.net/pcie-1x-to-16x-pcie-riser-with-6pin-power-connector-version-6-p-303.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272456808280?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

I reviewed his pcie cables in the summer.  They work well I gave a good review  and I am still using them as I type with some s9's at the solar array.

So he came up with 6 pin risers for you gpu cards.  He mailed me one for review.

I got the envelope along with some amazon packages  and due to holidays 3 or 4 reviews  I did not remember this particular item.

I looked at it and thought   when did I buy this and who did I buy it from?  59 years old and losing my mind Roll Eyes  

So I plugged it into a rig  and it worked great.  ran it for a week or so.

I then sold a nice psu to generalt   he said do you have a link for  risers.  He knew I had a 6 pin one  So I said to him  I will toss in the six pin pcie riser so he is now using it and I never did a real review!

So ITOP shoots me a pm and asks me  did I ever get it.  I say to myself I am a freaking moron.

So the review is  the gear works  I used it for 1 week-2 weeks and now generalt is using it.

I will pm generalt to ask him to post here.

the photo is from the ebay link.  I did not use the hdd to pcie adapter.  I used a pcie direct to the riser




I made an offer for 6 pack on ebay.
27103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 11, 2017, 09:19:03 PM
I just installed a fresh Windows 10 2016 LTSB Enterprise with my own key. Copied, the miner binariese back to the panda miner. Everything is working great now since 7 days. So no worry to reinstall the machine it will work again without any special modification Cheesy Now its time to switch to the linux version and see what I can do there with it Wink

By the way, I'm mining monero and got a stable hashrate from 5970 h/s.

sgminer can go higher than 6khs but that on Linux....

6400 @ 880 watt stable as a rock over here.. Smiley

Waiting patiently   for a linux  holding coin for you.
27104  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: XFX hd 7970 for sale. daily mark down sale on: January 11, 2017, 03:38:34 AM
Will mark it down from 100 to $99  It is Sunday 910 pm
On Monday the 9th at 910 pm it goes to $98 with shipping to all 50 states.

Now $98

On tues the 10 at 910 pm it goes to $97  with free shipping to any of the 50 states in the usa.

it is now 97$






27105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 11, 2017, 12:14:20 AM
Phil  did you ever see these?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA27C3GN8656

They have a resistor  and plug inline for 3 pin fans.  5 for 6 bucks.  So 2 orders for 12 dollars  would be enough for all 9 fans in the PandaMiner.


I like them  not sure is they can carry a 0.80 amp max load.

For 12 bucks I will order them now.  They could make the miner much quieter.

When my pandaminer does zec  the heatsinks are only about 40c

 I think I'm reading that as they have 47 ohm resisters in line - which is gonna drop those Deltas to 3 volts or so *if* I'm correct and the fans won't turn at all a that low a voltage.
 Might be 4.7 ohm though - the listing is VERY unclear - which would be a fairly small voltage and speed drop but the resistor better be a lot bigger than it looks like (at LEAST a 2 watt and even that would probably be very marginal at best, 5 watt would be better for some safety from overload and overheat).



I can measure the ohms and put in a more ballsy resister.   I like that I get 10 pieces.   As for  what volts work on the fan  6-7 volts is minimum


here are lots of 4.7 ohm 2 watts


http://www.digikey.com/products/en/resistors/through-hole-resistors/53?
27106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can I use solar pannels as electricity source for mining? on: January 10, 2017, 10:44:58 PM
yes I have a  thread   wait for link


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.0

this is a large setup most homeowners don't have an acre or two for a field of panels.
27107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 10, 2017, 10:40:21 PM
Thanks to theyankeswin  I am picking up this power cable to lower fan speeds


Item List:
Item   Description   
Quantity
Unit Price
Extended Price
9SIA27C3GN8656   PC Fan 3 Pins Noise Speed Reduce Resistor Cable Wire Lead 5 Pcs   
2
$5.96
$11.92


Payment Summary: Payment Term: PaypalSubtotal: $11.92Tax: $0.82Gift Wrap: $0.00Shipping and Handling: $0.00EggPoints:$0.00Total Amount: $12.74
27108  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Buying 3 Antminers S7 or 1 Antminer S9? on: January 10, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
Well any mining has to take into consideration initial cost and running cost.
Bitmain hopes you are stupid and don't consider both. Fact.

So yes if you factor both in and find that one setup comes up with a better result, then indeed that makes sense.

There's of course the issue of miner lifetime - so you'd have to read around about the average reliability of an S7 vs an S9.
It would seem that 10% failure rate is somewhere in the ball park of what to expect on a typical miner - but YMMV.

Also of course don't forget that difficulty increases Smiley
That really doesn't factor much into what you are comparing, but often people look at the long term and don't factor in difficulty changes at all.

If your power is cheap under 4 cents a kwatt   the s-7 is the way to go.

If your power is 7-9 cents the s9 could be better.

The  worst problem for the s9 is break downs.  I have some spare parts on hand for my s9s'  2 controllers

a link for the s7 controller if you buy the s-7

https://bitmainwarranty.com/shop/products/us/s7-control-pcb/

a fan link for you
https://bitmainwarranty.com/shop/products/us/fan_s7/
27109  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: XFX hd 7970 for sale. daily mark down sale on: January 10, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
...

Thats true. I'd take it at 60$ shipped atm (2-3 months ROI) but it's probably not that of an attractive offer since i'm in Canada. And i imagine someone in the US will take it at 75$ shipped.


Yeah I will let it keep Sinking till someone gets it. 



@ everyone  it is supposed to be a fun thread.  Chill out everybody please.
27110  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S9 help!!!!! on: January 10, 2017, 06:10:10 PM
Ok I just set up an account on there so hopefully the images will be view able now

This is the main homepage screen when the unit powers itself of, it may be worth mentioning that I can access the main homepage but any of the other tabs aren't reachable


This is the firmware version, it has been upgraded to the latest firmware released by antminer


This shows the status page, as you can see the temps are within operating range, the second, or atleast Im assuming is the second or rear fan, is spinning higher then I would like too see it run at, but with the newest firmware you no longer control over the speeds or power settings


Also thank you for being patient with me  Smiley

this should help   and that means you did not shrink your images with auto feature to 1600 by 1200 or less on imgur


I redid the bottom one.  The fans are weird 2600 and 4900 are too far apart.  the rest is good.   what is your psu running this miner?

It could be good and the psu may just be shit so it powers down after 2-3 hours


27111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 10, 2017, 04:32:18 PM
Phil  did you ever see these?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA27C3GN8656

They have a resistor  and plug inline for 3 pin fans.  5 for 6 bucks.  So 2 orders for 12 dollars  would be enough for all 9 fans in the PandaMiner.


I like them  not sure is they can carry a 0.80 amp max load.

For 12 bucks I will order them now.  They could make the miner much quieter.

When my pandaminer does zec  the heatsinks are only about 40c
27112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 10, 2017, 03:57:59 PM
PM me when you are ready to sell some mobos+gpus , I will compare the cost (including oversea shipping) to check if it's better than local offers ! (pretty high actually).


Maybe due to translation, lack of knowledge and number of page in his thread, I didn't get exactly what sidehack is going to offer. Is he trying to build somethig better than antminer S9 ? or only small things ?

his bitfury  will be 1th  at 100 watts  maybe  in Feb.

 So if you want  100th  he may not be what you want.

But  if you want 10th-25th  he could be good for you.

His gear will be able to over and under clock plus over and under volt.

Translation :

 speed it up to the max  more hash less efficient ----------  say .13 watts a gh
 slow it down less hash more efficient ---------------------- say  .08 watts a gh

I will send a pm today.



27113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 10, 2017, 03:40:55 PM
With Claymore if you have watchdogs causing crashes you sometimes have to turn down the intensity.  You will also see this at times if you have overclocked GPU's.  But since you have not modified the ROM's yet I would try turning down the intensity.

claymore 9.3 at 6 intensity is pretty much flawless for zec

 the dip was when I switched to  eth which crashes




here is the panda on eth it crashes in 1 to 2 hours





oh I just got me an uncle

27114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 10, 2017, 03:16:12 PM

Of course I have a mix of gear not the above.

I would love to have 6 panda miners with three IBM 2980 psus.

That would be the cleanest smallest way to run 48 gpus

Do you really think the panda miner is such a good deal ? Ok it's a clean setup, but

It seems expensive, and harder to sell in the end. (only to miners, not to gamers)

  My circumstances are different then most.
I have the solar array deal.  My power costs allow for running the pandas with the rx 480s  until  rx 680s come out.
So when the rx 580s show in JUNE -AUG  I won't need to replace  the rx 480s.
I would get  1 extra generation to use them.
The solar array  could do 72 amps max.
So that could be :

 6 pandaminers
 4 s9's
 5 avalon 7's

would keep me  and buysolar diverse.

I made my math, I can get more hashes with less money if I build my own rigs instead of using Pandaminers. (and I don't even considered in the maths the fact that Pandaminer will arrive with shipping cost and customs fees..)

The solar array should not change the results ! with real GPUs (actual 470/480s), you should ROI faster and still be able to sell the gear later , no matter if this is 580s time or 680s time !

Did I miss something ?



Yes  in my case  I have power 3x 30 amp 240 volt circuits   or 72 amps.   but the area in the  barn for mining is not huge.

So fitting pandaminers is easy compared to fitting rigs. see photo at the bottom


I wrote that signature with the idea to get donations to sidehack's  projects so to be clear:
the whole kit and kaboodle  

the twopacs  with antminer chips

and the bitfury  work in feb.

I can do 2 racks in the solar array
so  for me  the pandaminers would be better.
BTW  I most likely  won't do it due to all the gpus I have and the multiple rigs.

As it is  I would need to sell  a lot of gear to switch to panda miners.
And people don't buy fast in market place
I no longer sell on ebay  as buyers have become really bad.

The card below is a good deal and will only get better yet no one has purchased it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734829.0

I am going to sell  multiple mobos and gpus to get more pandaminers


here is my 24 card rack with gpus.
it would become a 48 card rack with pandaminers

6 four card rigs  = 24 cards
6 psus
6 eth cables
an 8 port dvi switcher
1 key board
1 mouse


or 6 pandaminers   = 48 cards
3 ibm 2980 psus
6 eth cables
an 8 port dvi switcher
1 key board
1 mouse

27115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 10, 2017, 02:18:06 PM
Thank you, citronick!

I think restarts can be also related to overheating GPUs or other components of miner.

Yeah thread got sidetracked a lot   with the windows 10 enterprise LTSB issues. plus the possible  linux replacement.


The gpus don't overheat.  The heatsinks are huge  the fans are powerful.

The gpus have a custom bios that  has been flashed to them.

They are undervolted to .975  which is not stock.

My unit is using an Evga 1600 g2
I did test the oem psu.

I get about 1.6 to 1.7  h for  zec  at 1030 watts  with the evga 1600g2------using claymore 9.3 that I installed
I get about 1.6 to 1.7 h for  zec   at 1065 watts with the oem psu.

Eth crashes the drivers crash from 1 to 2 hours
I did not test any other coins

My garage is 85 to 95 f

The gear is fine the software is not.
I have yet to get into the bios.


at citronick did you get into the bios?  if so what key did you use.

Fellow miner Tradewiz shared with me that he used "del" key upon boot up.

This was the first thing that I did when I got the unit but was not successful.

Could you do the test -- maybe give it a few tries with the DEL key.

As soon as you get into the BIOS, changing the boot sequence should make the USB port handle bootable images.

I did the delete key no go
I did the F1 key no go
I did the F2 key no go
I did the F6 key no go
I did the F10 key no go.

So I am waiting for software from Eliovp

I did figure a way to make the gear  get activated.

Use a kms key for windows 10 enterprise  from microsoft  pages then buy a windows 10 enterprise key.  there are legit sellers of windows 10 enterprise keys  but I can not find a legit seller of windows 10 enterprise LTSB key.
27116  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: XFX hd 7970 for sale. daily mark down sale on: January 10, 2017, 02:11:09 PM
In four months you start to pay us to take it right?

I don't have enough psu's to run what I already have :/

cute  I like that.

  no as I mentioned in the thread the card is paid for and that if I sold it at 20 bucks I would make 2 -4 dollars.'

So If it does not sell after it drops to 20 bucks  I won't sell it.

My price is  under that of ebay prices. Plus it drops tonight or does it sell first Grin

I also have more gpus and some mobos to sell, but one at a time.

I am mining at a profit and am not in a rush.

The weather is cold so the gear keeps house warm.
27117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 10, 2017, 02:04:27 PM

Of course I have a mix of gear not the above.

I would love to have 6 panda miners with three IBM 2980 psus.

That would be the cleanest smallest way to run 48 gpus

Do you really think the panda miner is such a good deal ? Ok it's a clean setup, but

It seems expensive, and harder to sell in the end. (only to miners, not to gamers)

  My circumstances are different then most.
I have the solar array deal.  My power costs allow for running the pandas with the rx 480s  until  rx 680s come out.
So when the rx 580s show in JUNE -AUG  I won't need to replace  the rx 480s.
I would get  1 extra generation to use them.
The solar array  could do 72 amps max.
So that could be :

 6 pandaminers
 4 s9's
 5 avalon 7's

would keep me  and buysolar diverse.
27118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 10, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
Thank you, citronick!

I think restarts can be also related to overheating GPUs or other components of miner.

Yeah thread got sidetracked a lot   with the windows 10 enterprise LTSB issues. plus the possible  linux replacement.


The gpus don't overheat.  The heatsinks are huge  the fans are powerful.

The gpus have a custom bios that  has been flashed to them.

They are undervolted to .975  which is not stock.

My unit is using an Evga 1600 g2
I did test the oem psu.

I get about 1.6 to 1.7  h for  zec  at 1030 watts  with the evga 1600g2------using claymore 9.3 that I installed
I get about 1.6 to 1.7 h for  zec   at 1065 watts with the oem psu.

Eth crashes the drivers crash from 1 to 2 hours
I did not test any other coins

My garage is 85 to 95 f

The gear is fine the software is not.
I have yet to get into the bios.


at citronick did you get into the bios?  if so what key did you use.
27119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: January 10, 2017, 04:50:57 AM
So, i didn't end up pulling the trigger on those 2 x 550w PSUs.  It was going to cost $140 for 1100w vs the 1200w single unit, which yes, now costs $180 but has been as low as $160 recently and $120 a little longer out.  I just didn't want to hassle with a 2-PSU setup for what would probably be a nominal savings.

So... still on the lookout for a good deal on a 1200w unit, I found this Rosewill Capstone G Series at NewEgg for $100 after $10 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182361&cm_re=rosewill_1200w-_-17-182-361-_-Product

This at least appears to be very similar to the Quark Plat Series, with the exception of course of the 2% difference in power efficiency, but was wondering if anyone on this thread had used this series (in any wattage).  In addition, the Capstone seems to be semi-modular, but with only the 24-pin connector permanently connected, so probably no issue there. Otherwise, seems to have the same # of cables/connectors as the Quark.  This still puts me 1 molex cable short, but hopefully can find a work-around for that.

If i do my math right, the incremental electricity cost for Gold vs Plat is only $2/month, so ROI wise, this would be a no-brainer vs the $180 (or even $160) Quark version.  But, wondering if there are any other differences that I am not catching.

IMHO, it's not worth "saving pennies" on PSUs, because your entire investment, ie. mobo, gpus, ram, cpu, etc., could be harmed in many ways due to a sub-standard PSU. Be careful on so called Platinum PSU selling at "attractive" pricing -- there are too many scams out there.

Standardizing on a good PSU brand will save you power bill, stability of rigs, consolidated warranty to some extent, etc, over time.

The more expensive PSUs, esp Platinum ones from EVGA, Corsair, Rosewill are well above 100 for Gold or 200 bucks for Platinums, for a reason - its simply using quality & better components resulting good performance and efficient power consumption for the rigs. I standardized on EVGAs because of the build and reputation, and also the 10-year warranty.

To save on overall rig costs, find a reliable and cost-efficient supplier of RAM and GPUs instead, because these items are bought in multiple quantities therefore the savings realised are much meaningful.

To go even further, study the supply chain for the RAMs and GPUs, and buy direct from distributor if you are buying in bulk, rather than buying from Newegg or Amazon.

Mostly true.  Except for rose will as they are directly linked to newegg.

And with rose will the quark psu has been a real good psu for me.

Buying seasonic two or three at a time or evga two or three at a time is what a lot of home builders do.
For me. I max at 6kwatts if the weather is cold.  So 12 x 750 watt or 12 x 850 watt psus works for me.
If I was to go 12 biostar rigs with four Msi rx 470 gpus I would want either 12 evga plats or 12 rose will 850 plats.

Of course I have a mix of gear not the above.

I would love to have 6 panda miners with three IBM 2980 psus.

That would be the cleanest smallest way to run 48 gpus
27120  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Lowest Hashpower Pool to Solve a Block in 2016? on: January 10, 2017, 04:27:39 AM
I know mmpool found some blocks in 2016, were there any smaller ones?


well http://bravo-mining.com/    and http://mmpool.org/


 come to mind  both are  100 or so th
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