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2721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavins recent annoucement. DO NOT panic on: May 30, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
This is what free open-source software is about, you choose what code to run, this kind of stuff was predicted from the beginning and it's one of the properties why bitcoin is so resilient and some particular government cannot push its own code.


Yes of course we are not obliged to use the new client, I am only curious if I can move coin between the '2' chain but I do not think it will be possible.


You cannot move coins between the two chains but you'll have twice the coins, at least for the period of time the two chains are live, eventually one will die, I assume.

Oh thanks, finally I have understand all the question. If Gavin will fork and upload the new client we will basically still have or better own the same bitcoin in the two chains, so if I will be lucky we can sell the coins to someone -not an exchange- and buy more btc (and especially hope to be in the right chain).

Thanks again for the reply.

Correct, for a brief period of time, before it's clear which one is the winning chain, one can sell the same coins twice.

Bear in mind this may not be very ethical. Smiley

You will only be able to sell the same coins twice if Gavin coin makes it onto an exchange. If I was running an exchange I'd refuse to have anything to do with his coin until I was certain the majority of other exchanges were using it.

You'll be able to send the coins to whoever is on that chain, it can be an exchange, a merchant, someone betting on that particular chain and paying more or less for those coins depending on how many people are making the transition...
2722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US military pilots complain hands tied in ‘frustrating’ fight against ISIS on: May 30, 2015, 06:25:58 PM
The video leaked through Wikileaks where pilots were killing children, reporters and other innocent civilians a few years ago comes to mind...
2723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Where to Invest Bitcoin - Triple your BTC at ArchVentures SA, Portugal on: May 30, 2015, 06:20:58 PM
All serious shareholders (holding 8,000 tokens above) gets informed real-time.

IPO was done almost 9 months ago. Which desired funds? IPO funds? The IPO funds are mostly being used for the Moby project. Pumping the coin? There are no pumps, only revenue sharing when income comes in. However, you can choose by end of 2015 to convert to traditional shares.

There are over 100 shareholders with the largest holdings. How is that unfair when some companies only have less than 10 shareholders? ArchVentures has the most distributed number of shares in the cryptospace, unlike others which clearly can control market price.

Sorry I didn't read it well, I thought you were now trying to raise the 150k euros.

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ArchVentures is required to put up €150,000 as show money for the grant. The company will use the funds raised during the initial offering of ArchVentures last year.

What I meant is, if you have 250 bitcoins to distribute you are not going to distribute them equally between shareholders, you will use those bitcoins to pump archcoin, that doesn't look very good, people that for some reason cannot be online in that period of time cannot profit.

And for someone to 'collect their dividends' they have to sell their holdings, am I missing something?

Like OgNasty pointed out, bitcoin/fiat is always a huge factor to take into consideration.
2724  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Does this exist? on: May 30, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
Payza does offer something like that:

https://www.payza.com/business

Quote
Your customers can pay you instantly using their e-wallet, their credit card, or a variety of local payment solutions tailored to their country. When you give your customers choice, you’ll keep them happy and improve your bottom line.

And then you can withdraw bitcoin:

https://helpdesk.payza.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/974/0/how-do-i-withdraw-funds-by-bitcoin

Exactly what I need... but.....

If you are a Payza member located outside of the U.S., Canada, the UK, Bangladesh or India, you can become verified by submitting the following two (2) identification documents:

• Proof of address, such as a recurring bank statement, credit card statement, phone bill or utility bill. The name and address must match with the information listed in your Payza account. Please ensure that the name and recurring statement date are visible and that it is dated within the last 6 months.

• A government issued photo identification document, such as a passport, driver’s license, country/state ID. Your name and date of birth must be visible and must match the information in your Payza account. The ID number must also be visible. This identification document must be valid and not expired, and three (3) edges of the document must be visible. Please note that we do not accept photo IDs as a proof of address.

Please ensure that the documents are clearly visible, are in .jpeg or .pdf format, and are under 3 MB in size . Once your documents have been submitted, they will be reviewed for approval. Please allow up to 7 business days for your documents to be reviewed for approval.

I can't provide identification because I don't want it linked back to me. any other sites that don't require stupid ID? All I'm going to say, Is I  have to not be linked to anything, I don't want my name assigned to anything.

In that case, you can only accept payments in bitcoin and altcoins, no major payment processors can serve anonymous users...
2725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavins recent annoucement. DO NOT panic on: May 30, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
This is what free open-source software is about, you choose what code to run, this kind of stuff was predicted from the beginning and it's one of the properties why bitcoin is so resilient and some particular government cannot push its own code.


Yes of course we are not obliged to use the new client, I am only curious if I can move coin between the '2' chain but I do not think it will be possible.


You cannot move coins between the two chains but you'll have twice the coins, at least for the period of time the two chains are live, eventually one will die, I assume.

Oh thanks, finally I have understand all the question. If Gavin will fork and upload the new client we will basically still have or better own the same bitcoin in the two chains, so if I will be lucky we can sell the coins to someone -not an exchange- and buy more btc (and especially hope to be in the right chain).

Thanks again for the reply.

Correct, for a brief period of time, before it's clear which one is the winning chain, one can sell the same coins twice.

Bear in mind this may not be very ethical. Smiley
2726  Other / Meta / Re: Btctalk form search is still off... on: May 30, 2015, 05:42:29 PM
Use Google: 'search term' site:bitcointalk.org

And it's done.
2727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavins recent annoucement. DO NOT panic on: May 30, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
This is what free open-source software is about, you choose what code to run, this kind of stuff was predicted from the beginning and it's one of the properties why bitcoin is so resilient and some particular government cannot push its own code.


Yes of course we are not obliged to use the new client, I am only curious if I can move coin between the '2' chain but I do not think it will be possible.


You cannot move coins between the two chains but you'll have twice the coins, at least for the period of time the two chains are live, eventually one will die, I assume.
2728  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Does this exist? on: May 30, 2015, 01:08:10 PM
Payza does offer something like that:

https://www.payza.com/business

Quote
Your customers can pay you instantly using their e-wallet, their credit card, or a variety of local payment solutions tailored to their country. When you give your customers choice, you’ll keep them happy and improve your bottom line.

And then you can withdraw bitcoin:

https://helpdesk.payza.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/974/0/how-do-i-withdraw-funds-by-bitcoin
2729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of members of BitcoinTalk sentenced in a court of law concerning Bitcoin. on: May 30, 2015, 12:01:19 PM
Also pending, Micon:

  • Micon
  • Bryan Micon
  • SealsWithClubs.eu
  • One count of operating an unlicensed interactive gaming system
  • Territory: Nevada

Hello SwC faithful:

I'm sure you have seen the news today.  (yup, after a quick scroll up, you have seen the news)

First off, SwC will continue as is.

I am going to step back for an undetermined amount of time and deal with this legal matter.  The personal safety of myself and my family is first and foremost to me.  This is a very serious matter.  I'll update you when I can.

you will be left in good hands with ST7.  I have all trust in them.  

Technologically I expect the project to continue forward on the path described.  As always, all funds secure.

I have retained top legal representation in Nevada.  This is going to deplete my funds rather quickly, and they only take fiat so I'm asking for fiat donations here:

http://gofund.me/t7q32aw

and bitcoin donations in the first comment of this Reddit are also appreciated at this extremely tough time:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34759e/bryan_micons_legal_defense_on_gofundme_bitcoin/

2730  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Faucet which paying instantly? on: May 29, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
Here you go:

http://fauc.at/Index/
2731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Where to Invest Bitcoin - Triple your BTC at ArchVentures SA, Portugal on: May 29, 2015, 10:04:19 PM
'Dividend' distribution seems pretty unfair, specially if big boys have privileged information.

Is this some kind of IPO? How are you going to get the desired funds? Pumping the coin?

Isn't there a clear problem with exchanges being the biggest holders?
2732  Other / Meta / Re: Can't access Bitcointalk.org on: May 29, 2015, 08:28:36 PM
Try changing your DNS, Google's are pretty good, you may also want to try OpenDNS.

You can also access via TOR.
2733  Other / Off-topic / Re: Windows 7/Ubuntu dual boot on: May 28, 2015, 11:50:25 PM
It is very unlikely something like that to happen, usually virus programmers ignore linux, it just doesn't compensate their time.

If something happens and you find yourself unable to boot your systems you can easily restore Ubuntu's boot.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
2734  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: perfect-profit.org - NOT PAYING on: May 28, 2015, 11:58:02 AM
There's one thing you can do, never again put money into ponzis. Smiley
2735  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-05-26] CoinDesk: Accenture: UK Government Should Regulate Bitcoin Wallets on: May 27, 2015, 11:03:12 AM
Be able to freeze digital currency wallets where they are being used for suspicious activity.


Lol. Who the fuck would agree to use that? The trouble is, it's these sorts of regulations that will kill or severely strangle bitcoin but they genuinely might try to pass something like this as they're going to be worried about people laundering money or holding coins that can't be taxed or seized.

A shitload of people already agree with that, also doesn't seem to be killing bitcoin, Coinbase does all of that, probably Circle and Xapo too.
2736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: >>> prepare for change <<< on: May 26, 2015, 09:07:56 PM
i have no clue how you linked it to a cult. but thanks for the advice still. we are clearly going through a period where our worldview will most likely dramatically change within our lifetimes. at this point its worth taking into account different point of views no matter how bizarre they might sound. from number of different sources a personal opinion is built, so its only fair to at least make it avaliable.

the 'financial' section of the site is actually most interesting one.

The world is in perpetual change, there's nothing special about current times, one thing does not change though, there will always be someone trying to sell you some end of the world/times/era/age bullshit. Smiley
2737  Other / Politics & Society / Re: nuke went off in Yemen on: May 26, 2015, 08:53:29 PM
Here is another angle of the ammo dump in Sanaa blowing up. That is what you are seeing. It happened a few weeks ago, if I remember correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep3c8Xe0FRU

Mystery solved, thanks.
2738  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] UpTweet - Earn Bitcoins For Your Tweets! on: May 26, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
Ok, I already have approved balance, it would be nice to have a FAQ...

Do we get paid for all of these http://uptweet.com/site/viewall ?

Can we uptweet more than once?

What are Popular Uptweets?
2739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Baltimore: 28 Shot, 9 Dead Over Memorial Day Weekend on: May 26, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
Nothing changed since The Wire...

Is it gang related, they didn't said anything about that in the video?
2740  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] UpTweet - Earn Bitcoins For Your Tweets! on: May 26, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
Ok, got it, just uptweeted what was available.

kevin1234a when you login you can find your earning at 'Wallet' under your user picture, there you can request payout when available.
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