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2721  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Mohon Bantuannya, Skripsi Perihal Bitcoin on: April 16, 2019, 04:19:55 PM
Setuju sama @mu_enrico, memberikan saran itu memang penting namun harus dilihat terlebih dahulu inti permasalahannya seperti apa. Dirasa sesuai dengan konteks masalah yang dihadapi oleh OP mungkin itu akan menjadi nilai plus untuknya, namun jika tidak saya rasa itu percuma.

Saran untuk OP jika memang thread ini dirasa sudah cukup memberikan sebuah informasi agan bisa lock aja thread ini atau mungkin agan bisa cantumin kontak agan disini agar nanti ketika ada seseorang yang sesuai dengan kriteria yang agan inginkan bisa membantu agan. Ataupun jika memang masih ada hal yang belum agan sampaikan agan bisa meng-update nya disini. Contohnya, agan sudah mewawancarai informan A, B atau C. Agar nantinya bisa dijadikan sumber juga oleh orang lain yang tertarik untuk membuat skripsi seperti agan.

2722  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] BITCOIN DALAM DEBAT PRESIDEN on: April 16, 2019, 03:54:54 PM
di indonesia telah ditetapkan jika memiliki bitcoin diperbolehkan tetapi dilarang untuk digunakan dalam transaksi dalam kegiatan ekonomi sehari hari, jadi sebatas memiliki dan bisa diperdagangkan di market crypto yang telah ada saat. pemerintah tidak bertangung jawab jika terjadi penyalahgunaan atau penipuan akibat transaksi menggunakan crypto. pemerintah hanya memperbolehkan memiliki namun masih melarang untuk digunakan bertransaksi seperti mata uang fiat. semoga aja, presiden yang terpilih bisa melegalkan dan memberi kepastian hukum yang jelas untuk pengguna crypto.
Jadi menurut agan keadaan crypto di Indonesia sudah jelas atau belum hukumnya?

Statement pertama agan bilang di Indoensia telah ditetapkan yang berarti sudah ada aturan hukum yang mengatur cryptocurrency. Dan sebenarnya hal tersebut sudah banyak diketahui silahkan cek disini:

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PADA tanggal 2 Oktober 2018, para pelaku bisnis aset kripto (crypto asset) di Indonesia dapat merasa lebih aman dengan telah dikeluarkannya Peraturan Menteri Perdagangan Nomor 99 Tahun 2018 tentang Kebijakan Umum Penyelenggaraan Perdagangan Berjangka Aset Kripto yang menyatakan bahwa cryptocurrency seperti Bitcoin dan Ethereum secara resmi dinyatakan sebagai Aset Kripto sudah terdaftar sebagai barang legal yang dapat diperdagangkan sebagai komoditas di Indonesia.
sumber: https: //www.google.com/amp/s/merahputih.com/post/amp/regulasi-aset-kripto-bitcoin-dan-crypto-legal-di-indonesia

Namun statement terkahir membuat saya gagal fokus.

Intinya legalitas cryptocurrency di Indonesia sudah jelas namun masih dibatasi hanya sebagai barang dagangan saja yang bisa perjualbelikan.
2723  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Apakah harga mata uang negara berubah, jika tidak ada bitcoin? on: April 16, 2019, 03:37:51 PM
Mencoba menanggapi pertanyaan yang dilontarkan oleh om @phoinex meskipun (maaf) pertanyaannya agak sulit dipahami karena mungkin ada kekeliruan ketika mengambil kesimpulan dari om @joni.

Tapi sederhananya ketika bitcoin telah selesai ditambang maka salah satu tugas miner (penambang) adalah memproses setiap transaksi yang terjadi.  Dan dari beberapa sumber yang beredar telah memprediksi bahwa penambang hanya akan mendapatkan keuntungan yang sedikit karena hanya mengandalkan pada proses transaksi saja, dibanding dengan sistem ataupun alat yang mereka gunakan.

Namun ada argumen lain bahwa, biaya transaksi bitcoin (ketika jumlahnya selesai di tambang semuanya) akan meningkat dengan catatan bitcoin mempunyai harga yang tinggi. Dengan harapan setiap negara atau beberapa perusahaan/merchants menerima bitcoin baik digunakan sebagai sistem pembayaran ataupun tempat untuk mendapatkan keuntungan. Ketika hal tersebut terjadi banyak kemungkinan setiap reward yang diberikan pada penambang ketika memproses sebuah transaksi akan tinggi.

Untuk lebih jelasnya silahkan agan baca di artikel dibawah :
1. https://www.murdockcruz.com/2017/06/09/apa-yang-akan-terjadi-pada-bitcoin-jika-semua-21-juta-telah-ditambang/amp/

2. https://kriptomedia.com/bitcoin/apa-yang-terjadi-pada-bitcoin-miner-jika-bitcoin-telah-habis/
2724  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [SHARE] [TIPS] Cara Mengetahui Airdrop Scam Atau Tidak on: April 15, 2019, 07:11:27 PM
airdrop hanya koin gratis , jadi kalau scam juga gak masalah .
hanya saja kerugian nya mungkin karena syarat yg harus dilakukan, biasanya beberapa task untuk mendapatkan koin airdrop .
tapi kalau koin ico yg scam baru investor akan sangat dirugikan .
sampai sejauh ini masih sulit menentukan mana airdrop yg scam dan tidak .

semua coin yang namanya airdroip ataupun bounty gratis kok myang pakek modal itu para trading cuma gini kalau airdrop yang kibta join sering dapat scam kemungkinan kan banyak waktu yang terbuang sia sia dan pastinya rasa kecewa itu ada karena tiap yang sudah kita join pasti punya poengharapan di sana.
Sepertinya ada yang salah ketika agan agan diatas menyikapi kata gratis sehingga merujuk pada diskusi yang simpang siur. Menurut KBBI sendiri makna gratis adalah cuma cuma atau tidak dipungut bayaran yang artinya dalam konteks ini agan diberi koin tanpa melakukan effort apapun, hanya mendaftar lalu agan akan menerima token dari airdrop tersebut.

Sedangkan yang saya tahu tidak ada airdrop yang memberikan koin atau tokennya secara cuma-cuma yang berarti ada effort agar agan mendapatkan token tersebut. Biasanya event airdrop akan memberikan rules kepada setiap partisipannya untuk melakukan follow terhadap akun media sosial mereka baik itu twitter, facebook dan yang lainnya setelah itu agan diwajibkan untuk me-retweet  beberapa tweet atau mempromosikan project mereka di akun media sosial agan.

Rules nya hampir sama dengan bounty campaign hanya memiliki perbedaan dari segi waktu saja. Pun sama cara membedakan antara airdrop scam atau airdrop legit dengan project ICO scam dan project ICO legit bisa agan analisis dengan beberapa cara yang sudah dilakukan oleh banyak orang seperti beberapa thread dibawah ini.

Guidelines, how to spot a scam ICO & report effectively.



2725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Am done with KYC on: April 15, 2019, 06:22:32 PM
this is an old story that just becomes a mode for people to steal our data,
this is quite dangerous indeed if we do a project that is a scam,
it makes it safer to avoid the Kyc project, because there are still many good projects that don't need kyc.
Just a few bounty hunters who has an aware to makes their identity keep anynomous, most of them just take a short think and joined into bounty campaign quickly without know the project is and don't know about KYC things. Moreover they only know about scam projects that didn't pay to the work that has done by them, didn't know if the project end up to the scam then their identity will use to illegal act and etc.
2726  Economy / Economics / Re: Study says 79% of cryptocurrency event attendees are men on: April 15, 2019, 06:10:34 PM
Cryptocurrency is indeed done by many men and also about the research, it is true because most of the men themselves today, this technology itself is still new and known by people,
Another side that we haven't known about this, that article not includes in all event that has happened was come by a men. And if this is indeed happened I don't think this is the weird thing, since I rarely see some women who has cradibility to the an investment place or other thing related to technology. They tend to find an interest in other field like design and work in a company etc compared to looking for some ways that hasn't known by all people.
2727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can REGULATION Really Be Beneficial to Bitcoin? on: April 15, 2019, 05:55:08 PM
Yes, absolutely. In my country I know about a lot of people who wouldn't touch bitcoin because it is unregulated and is illegal to transact in fiat to buy/sell crypto. This is a barrier to a lot of people who don't want harrassment or do rounds of court just for putting in some money into bitcoin. If it was regulated, I am sure that barrier to entry will no longer be there and we would have lesser number of scams, like fiat does.
Honestly if goverment have a thought to regulate cryptocurrency then cryptocurrency will gone from its character, especially in anynomous character. Indeed, regulations from some countries will give a lot of effect in order to all people knows bitcoin and they will use it without any cares. But for the thing of scam/fraud, government has nothing to do with it, still has a lot of way for the scammer to try another ways to slip up subtly and swindey everyone with seductions that hasn't yet comes.
2728  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Invest now? or wait for down turn? on: April 15, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
You made this account BTT at 2018 ago and you should know the character of the movement bitcoin price at least to know the trend what will happen. Indeed, there is no one who able to predict bitcoin price correctly but you can use the strategy with look at the history price movement. I often to see the chart first when I want to sell my bitcoin and also when I will buy it again and so far that way has been successed for me and threw me from the loss several times. Good for you to want know the trading field, because what I felt several ways about trading will make you know the movement price afterward.
2729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: I livecoin safe? on: April 13, 2019, 12:00:33 PM
I am going to open an account on Livecoin, but I have no references so I would like someone telling me about it.
There was a signature campaign ongoing of livecoin if I am correct. But be aware, somedays ago I have seen one thread here claiming against livecoin that he was scammed or something like that.
You should have to put the link to the thread that you mean. It's not good if you just say something especially negative word intended to an exchange. Scam and hacked are the factor who will make cryptocurrency stuck in place, so as it would be good if there is someone or you have an information that scamming people then yoh have to tell it in order there is no one who will feel the same thing.

But yeah, live coin has been running signature campaign and choose the trusted manager in this forum. So as I can be sure live coin is legit exchange because I only see at the manager campaign since I don't have account in there.
2730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Which is your favorite cryptocurrency related website besides BitcoinTalk? on: April 13, 2019, 11:48:41 AM
Currently I like medium to be use as place to get an information related to cryptocurrency. Most articles that has been made is created by the fact and find another side that I didn't know before. Prevously I use cointelegraph to know the latest information, but the article on cointelegraph made me bored with the santence that they use.
2731  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bounty Managers on: April 13, 2019, 04:34:16 AM
Hello. I'm working as a bounty manager for over a year, so I think there should be a place for me too. )
Have you had a service management thread?

Such as yahoo he has made a service management thread you can look it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704638.0

As well as with Hhampuz he has made a service management too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079097.0

Indeed, this thing is not important but it will make easier for other people to look how is your experience and how project that has finished by you.

Edit: Appologize for my ignorance. @Sergei.Gerasimenko has made a service management thread and this is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4326779.0 and maybe OP can provide a place for him.
2732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DUMP after PUMP! on: April 13, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
The panic thing is being a culture for someone who has investment in cryptocurrency.

They have experienced this thing in many times so as they will difficult to avoid that feel. It will be different when someone has an investment in other place like gold, stock and etc. Most of them will feel comfortable although the price gold or stock decreased because the decreased price aren't drastically.

But in cryptocurrency price we won't see it, the movement price are very past so if we late to decide buy and sell and then we will find a loss. As for ETH price currently, have an increasing price again, you can see now in CMC the price ETH increased arround 1,42% and seems like it will up again.
2733  Economy / Economics / Re: The bulls are back, bitcoin on the way to $5k on: April 13, 2019, 03:15:53 AM
in the past week, Bitcoin has risen by more than 20%, this is like a breath of fresh air for the Bitcoin Holder. slowly but surely the crisis of the last few months will end, up to $ 20k soon  Grin  Cool
Yes. Bull run is really heading for us. We can see positive market price at the moment. If we can see prices increasing within the whole month then maybe bull run is already coming. Though there may be corrections might happen in a sudden but i know we will still end up with bull run.
How can I make sure that bull run has really come? You have a good predict because the price met a corrections currently. Yesterday we can saw the price had been touched $5300 and more but now the price has been declining again and still has a price arround $5000. I'm not a good trader even I haven't try to trade I only buy bitcoin and leave it some time if I get profit I'll sell it quickly. I'll have the same hope with you and hopefully the price bitcoin really up and up again.
2734  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is following the same path of 2017 on: April 13, 2019, 03:06:55 AM
I came to invested in bitcoin or know bitcoin at november 2017 so I didn't know what happen in a few months before november 2017. You may know how the movement price before november 2017 til you have an assume that this recent price movement is the same with that. However, I still have a big doubt for bitcoin meet increased price again and reach $20.000 as the achievment in 2017 ago. An information will change per years, we don't have a way to same it all the time and this is pointed out we don't have any assurance the price bitcoin same with 2017, moreover for the current situation and we had been in the bearish market for one year and more.
2735  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah Berinvestasi di ICO 2019 Masih Bagus? on: April 12, 2019, 06:30:41 AM
Kalau menurut saya ini awal yang bagus untuk berinvestasi di ico,karena harga btc sudah mulai mendongkrak kembali,sepertinya harga akan terus naik dan akhir tahun 2019 ini bisa tembus 300 juta / btc,begitu juga ico akan kembali membaik seperti sebelumnya
Masih abu-abu gan, antara iya ataupun tidak. Pergerakan harga Bitcoin tak menentu membuat banyak orang ragu untuk berinvestasi. Lagi asyik-asyiknya naik eh malahan turun. Santai saja gan, jangan terburu buru.
I may say, tidak akan ada orang yang mampu mengatakan ia bisa menebak/mengetahui harga bitcoin dengan benar. Kebanyakan dari mereka hanya menggunakan analisa dari chart ataupun history yang sudah terjadi. Dan mungkin banyak orang pula yang mengandalkan fundamental untuk memulai membeli dan hal hal seperti tidak bisa kita ketahui sebelumnya.

Mungkin yang sangat fenomenal adalah Jhon McAfee, ia pernah mengatakan bahwa harga bitcoin akan mencapai 1 juta dollar (kalo ga salah) pada tahun 2020 nanti. Jika prediksi yang ia buat salah maka dia akan memotong kemaluannya sendiri didepan awak media. Suatu hal yang sangat saya tunggu tunggu di tahun 2020 nanti, syukur syukur harga bitcoin naik ya.

Kondisi market memang lagi pulih tetapi itu tidak menjamin harga akan terus naik dan bahkan sekarang ketika saya menulis ini komentar ini harga sedang mengalami sedikit koreksi. Dan untuk investasi di ICO saya kira lebih baik di simpan dulu uangnya gan, proyek bagus belum tentu memberikan profit disaat keadaan pasar seperti ini.
2736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: April 12, 2019, 06:15:37 AM
Dice games and multi color game in Bitsler but more on Dice. It keeps me entertained and game is just simple. No need to think of a strategy, no math required, no need to count cards. I want games that allows me to pick only a few choices and not complicated. Gambling is my stress reliever, so why choose a game that is complicated. 
Same with you but I often to play dice rather than multi color game. I only need several hours to understand dice game and also I can make profit when I first to played it, the best experience ever. I use money from paying signature campaign and I have thought I can play with money that I willing to loss, so as I use strategy automatic roll and I'll leave it some times. With this strategy I have experienced got a lof of profit, at that time I use 0.01 BTC to play and I got 0.05 BTC not bad just for a bet that I leave.
2737  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hal-hal yang perlu diketahui sebelum berinvestasi dengan ICO on: April 11, 2019, 11:46:24 PM
Sayang sekali post segitu panjangnya dia tidak mencantumkan sumber dari tulisannya.
layak dicurigai apakah ini asli atau karangan orang lain.

Bukan layak lagi gan emang udah copas coba liat source yang di cantumin oleh @rizaldi

Untuk om @rizaldi agan bisa report masalah ini di thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.1340
2738  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: April 11, 2019, 11:11:05 PM
Terkadang bersifat naif ataupun bersikap bodo amat itu perlu seperti menghadapi masalah seperti ini. Seperti yang saya lakukan, mencoba diam ketika tetangga saya atau bahkan teman saya ngomongin masalah pekerjaan atau bahkan beberapa dari mereka yang sudah mengenal dengan sekilas tentang bitcoin lalu memiliki pandangan negatif terhadapnya.

Saya selalu diemin mereka, tidak pernah saya hadapi dengan serius, karena itu percuma karena mereka ga paham. Bayangin aja berdebat ataupun beradu argumen dengan seseorang yang hanya mengenal sekilas tentang apa yang diperdebatkan itu dan hasilnya gabakalan benar, yang ada cape sendiri, kita menjelaskan ini dan dia menjawab dengan itu dan seterusnya akan seperti itu.

Kebanyakan orang Indonesia sekarang hanya memberikan sebuah penilaian tanpa melakukan sebuah analisis. Sebagian besar dari mereka hanya menilai sebuah masalah berdasarkan informasi yang tersebar tanpa melakukan dan mengamati sebuah masalah oleh dirinya sendiri. So, saya tidak terlalu diambil pusing untuk masalah ini karena memang masalahnya tidak penting untuk saya ambil pusing hehe.
2739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: I Intend to solve Bounty Problems - Your suggestions on: April 11, 2019, 05:37:35 AM
I've joined your group, I don't think there is anything new there.
I see you launched this thread in November, but until now you haven't launched your service even you don't provide any information about the bounty.
I don't like a project that use another place to know more about their project because it's useless. Actually they can use this thread to expalain how they project run and tell to everyone in detail about their project want, it has been enough. Don't need social media or telegram channel to explain it, because as far as I know it will be good to make it known by many people so as many people in this forum will give a suggestion or even support to their project.
2740  Economy / Speculation / Re: How do those of you who were waiting for 2000s/1000s/<1000 feel now? Buying now? on: April 11, 2019, 05:05:18 AM
Yep there are buying now, a misconception when someone say this the best time to buy bitcoin when the price has gone up. When the price at 3000 that is the time for me to buy, although at that time will be many people who says don't bougt because the price will went to crash again as you say to 2000 or 1000 and even 800. I like for those people who ignore it and force to bought bitcoin at that time because now the will have profit almost $2000 just in a few months.
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