Hash rate has returned to earth, looks like it started dropping for the weekend. Interesting to see if it is restored Monday morning.
Don't think so, price is falling = interest is falling ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Is Montango dead now?
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I just want to point out that we are here talking about Elwar's Ship/citadel/country, saying no-homo a lot, banging our balls with steel plates and writing (mostly) horrible haikus, while all sitting together sipping White Russians under the shade of ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BULL FLAGS IN HISTORY THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT IN ECON CLASSES AND STUDIED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS... ahem.. sorry... got a little overly ME there for a moment... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKBJFg3y.png&t=663&c=fNn9tM9yZhRseA) "And that sharp dip you see, students, around March of 2020 was a result of the Covid pandemic and resulting panic. Economists have theorized that the July 2021 bull run that stunned the whole Earth and defined the first ballpark stable value of the Bitcoin network, was both delayed, as well as strengthened by that anomaly. By artificially taking pressure out of - what obviously to us - was the beginning of the greatest monetary transformation of history it caused an even more violent rocket launch of the total valuation of the Bitcoin Network as we see it reflected today. This period of time was extremely satisfying and I am certain nerve wracking for the few who were fortunate enough to have realized what was happening before the governments and other people of the world. Allow me to read you this old-timey "Forum Post" from a person named "Boblawblaw" As he describes a painful ritual to distract him from the bone chilling expansions and contractions of his net worth in those days, in which he used a set of titanium plates to clap together over his testicles to distract from the pain of those early swings. The actual plates he used can be seen on the Island which he left to his adopted children, in the museum they erected (no homo) in his name." --Some egghead Econ Prof of the future
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Monero and Ethereum are the two best investments for this next bull run. They will both heavily outperform bitcoin.
Monero is what people used to think bitcoin was, a private currency with cheap fees.
Bitcoin has become quite hilarious, lightning is so shit and look at how much more btc is on the ethereum network. Bitcoiners still think high fees are a good thing? ???Idiots like Luke Jr saying blocksize should be smaller. At least ethereum is working on solutions to scaling and lowering fees.
You are only seeing the Bitcoin network as a payments network. I am of the mind we already have a ton of good payments networks. Bitcoin is a brand new monetary system, and it is programmable. If the lightning network does not improve (and i think it is likely to by quite a bit) then something else trust minimized will take it's place. And all the trust based models (Credit Cards, Cash App, etc) will flourish as they begin to use the bitcoin network at their base. And they can continue to offer their advantages. For example reversible payments. Bitcoin will never do this. And that is a feature, not a bug. But do we really want a world in which we have no option to pay a little to a trusted third party to be able to protect us from fraud? People tend to look at Bitcoin in a one or two dimensional light, and proclaim that it is here to save us from all these things we don't really need to be saved from, and they miss so much. What Bitcoin saves us from is potentially the greatest evil the world has ever seen... and it's not Visa.
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Etherium is a thing that continues to have more and more glue poured on top of it.
I wouldn't touch it. But so many crappy projects continue to survive on past their smelly date.
Perhaps we are finally seeing the transcendence of Monero.
Pissed off that BTC people persuaded me I needed to be holding a BTC at 068 *shake fist*
I duuno. As to things to hold other than Monero, BTC is pretty high on my list. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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People don't really know the value of monero. In my opinion, it should be the most valuable altcoin after ethereum, because it is a true anonymous coin. The value of such a coin should not be that small.
You're preaching to the choir n here... but you are dead right. I think it's utility is higher than Ethereums in reality aside from the fact you can't create a fountain of endless scams with it. I think the only way this discrepancy is righted is we continue to see the usage go firmly up. Eventually the value has to catch up.
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Plenty of room for this healthy pullback. In the long run it is good NOT to go overly parabolic since that is what happens at the TOP. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I miss 11 though. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGDPR9Ol.png&t=663&c=f4fvraJDoTqg3Q)
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There are only two options: better one for you is simply you are an idiot.
Worst - you are just paid shill.
swprs.org off-guardian.org
#lockdownsceptics
DaRude is right though... sort of. I also work for a hospital system. Part of my job is specifically analyzing admission data, and for the last several months I have been particularly involved with analyzing the COVID admissions. FACT: It is killing people FACT: It is extraordinarily contagious FACT: We now know that it has a very high survival rate in almost all populations. The trick with Covid is it is so contagious that just about all of us are going to get it. And that means that <1% who it kills? There are a lot of them. Couldn't you say exactly the same about any specific flu virus from past? [By {past} I mean anything happened before 2010 in let say 30 years scope] Any RELIABLE data about it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ... Mate, we all know it's not pandemia but just clear politics. Left or Right / Biden or Trump... Nobody (clever than monkey/donkey) buys this shit. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Bullshit did not fill our ICUs to 80% capacity with almost entirely intubated covid patients. But believe what you want. I have seen people dying from it. Yes, it is not as bad as people had feared, but it is not "exactly the same" as anything really. Just because politicians have seized onto this for their advantage does not mean it isn;t real. You seem to be a black and white sort of thinker.
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Ima jus leave this here... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR6yPMIz.png&t=663&c=jz0TaMZzI0wj9g)
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This trend line on the 4H still looks pretty good... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4mnU2Wn.png&t=663&c=4kZMLs0tTcW6bA)
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re:dumpenings and silly bear domination gifs
No.
Its my belief that bitcoin is still at the beginning of a exponential s-curve adoption phase. I think selling only what is necessary at this point is probably a good idea for most.
Now is the time for accumulation. This is the way.
MSPAINT.exe Agrees with you 100%! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FthxquLD.png&t=663&c=CG-GAoZG1rKXwg)
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This is a veritable shit-ton of hash power coming on.
Is there a chance? That this hashrate is related to the Chainalysis contract to break Monero? Serious question... I cannot see how that would be.
Much more likely someone discovered an exploitable hole in some cloud services server farm? Azure? AWS etc?
Small chance this is new Asics coming on. Unlikely.
Time will answer the last one, I suppose.
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I really expected to revisit 0.0105 range. Nope. Off we go!
Wheres the volume though? Although if we break this... wooooo hooooooo. And you know what I relish more than just seeing NGU? XMR putting some of those ridonkulous shitcoins in the top 10 back in their place.
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I wonder when everyone else will join this guy from 2 days ago that fat finger bought 35k XMR up to $147 on Binance. I am bored of this $12x&$13x prices. Time to move on. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Fbf7f187f358af0f285454b9ff910a8a2.png&t=663&c=cPkN0CvA519CoQ) I always wonder about those. Like you say was it a slip? Or a drunken "eff it?". Or does the guy know/think something? Seems much more than trival to throw 2.5-3 million bucks at something on a whim... but I suppose some can. But my oijia board lines and graphs... we have a lot of room to strech out over the next hump. I think i saw it as 145? But 137 might be the top of it? I still think 145 will offer resistence... in someones our friend on Binance fulfilled my prophesy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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come on boys it's been posted twice now shouldn't we jumping up and down again another company sank 115 million into btc and no one seems to give two shits you'd rather talk about quantum greek jews or something i mean perhaps this is the new normal i don't know but i think it's something
Agreed. And I hope it *IS* the new normal. This is where I think we are on the bitcoin adoption curve: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FthxquLD.png&t=663&c=CG-GAoZG1rKXwg) The question is will price follow a similar trajectory? Man, I hope so.
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I see that the over-leveraged barts are back. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yeaaaah... Degens gonna degen, even if it's risky. Honestly I would get my money off Bitmex if I had money on there. I would not want to be playing musical chairs there just now. Not that they are fundamentally dishonest. But there is a real risk. THAT is the kind of head fake bull markets are made of!
BTCBTCBTCBTCBTC(also, seriously who said Bitmex could be back up and running? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
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Healthy pullback = Healthy pullback ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGW0O9Iz.png&t=663&c=Bo7R2dASzvQnCQ)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiIdCxcR.png&t=663&c=YTDhHvN-btxVuA) Transaction volume. A 10% spike in a single day, and a solid new ATH.
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Does anyone think XMR will decouple from Bitcoin, to an extent. Or is it still strongly dependent on BTC?
Some people say that it will be another year before we reach the previous BTC ATH and another year or more until the new ATH.
Any chance that XMR will reach a new ATH in terms of BTC and USD before then?
Can it get back in to the top 10? Top 5?
I do believe there is a chance Monero decouples as you say. One way to look at it is the major early alts are at cycle to a cycle and a half behind Bitcoin. Monero has only had one major rise. It is because Monero actually offers something BTC can't that it could express a higher value against BTC, and I think the possibility of that happening as the world heads tentatively into crypto is certainly non-zero.
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Regarding Satoshi, soon he won’t have to worry about it and just atomic swap his stash ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Of course depending if there’s enough “liquidity” for that?? Or does that not matter? Oh, and by the way... This is really becoming my favorite mental rabbit hole... the idea that Monero could effectively become a privacy side chain of Bitcoin. Monero is the strong front runner for privacy. Even better than the lightning network. If we can get that ball rolling it stands the chance to be a bit of a black swan event in my opinion. It would be a solid use case for a separate but cryptographically joined block chain to Bitcoin. It's the next killer app. Maybe?
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Regarding Satoshi, soon he won’t have to worry about it and just atomic swap his stash ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Of course depending if there’s enough “liquidity” for that?? Or does that not matter? But no matter how we slice it we start to see those early bags move around it's gonna spook the market. That reality will never go away. I honestly think one of CSW's angles was to lay out the legal precedent to be able to demand access (via a fork) to those early blocks in all three major Bitcoin forks. Luckily not only is that plan stupid, but the legal world seems to be having none of his BS.
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