How have you determined the power supply costs $200? I have never paid that for a PSU, and that includes the behemoth powering the computer I'm typing this message on(PCP&C 850). If I had paid $200 for a PSU I'd expect to power no less than 5 bASICs with it AND the computer feeding them making the cost for PSUs $40/bASIC...actually less if you're also powering a computer.

BFL products would've been fairly valued IMO if they'd released them in October when they "scheduled shipments". Their customers would've had a ridiculously brief ROI and be profitable already. At this point I believe they're horribly overpriced for a launch against stiff competition in January of 2013.

That's a horrible oversimplification. I've missed out on about 14% of the rise in value of the 55ish BTC I used to purchase one bASIC01 unit since I ordered them in mid October(I paid for 1.5 units in FRNs). As I was expecting the units in the next week or two and that's now not going to happen I will likely be paying more in "opportunity costs" lost in the near future.

Had I paid BFL in the summer in BTC for gear that was supposed to be delivered in October, I'd probably be collecting addresses of those responsible for stealing from me right now.

BFL knows GD well they won't be shipping products during the holiday shopping season. It's just BS that they offhandedly peddle misinformation to paying customers.

Actually I'm beginning to believe that's *THE ONLY* BFL rep and his response was as usual completely meaningless.

A power supply? Come on miners tend to have baskets of these...this miner certainly does. I've seen multiple posts already by people claiming to be BFL customers asking what BFL will do to match BTCFPGA prices/performance.

I'm stressed, yeah it helps to discuss it.

...and for this bASIC customer. Stress is high, though it'd be higher if deadlines were made and broken every two weeks instead of two months.

I'll be joining you soon if this continues. I'm getting stressed waiting for bASIC to release info. An empty wiki page is not going to cut it.

So what was supposed to take 25 days from Halloween?

More delays = more threads. The bASIC delay threads are just getting revved up.

They'll most likely deliver, the question is WHEN and how high will difficulty be by that time?

When does that benefit get retracted? These folks are dishonest. BFL reps are still peddling the prospect of late December shipping to customers, that's just flat out lying given what we know about the state of their assembly process.

I certainly do. BFL reps don't tell the truth...see the above email received from Debbie. If they STILL don't have chips in early Dec how are they ever going to ship in late Dec? That's just unrealistic nonsense.

Of course you can still comment/complain about them. BFL's policies effect everyone associated with BTC.

Indeed. BFL is already under pressure to lower prices.

I'm not sending any ASIC vendors another bitcent until I see some evidence of progress...and that goes double for BFL. I haven't a clue what's going on with that weirdo company.

lol, it's probably just ONE guy in his pajamas manufacturing the illusion of an entire company.

BFL is supposedly getting chips from Asia next week.

That'd be my take as well. These Avalon guys are having fun milking it anyway.

Well stop beating the bush to death and spill it man!

BFL is allegedly outsourcing the PCBs for their first batch. If they still officially have batches.