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2721  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: sign transaction on: December 13, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
For a more fleshed out version that is still fairly easy to follow:

https://github.com/ciyam/ciyam/blob/master/src/crypto_keys.cpp#L761

(it includes support for an optional OP_RETURN *message*)
2722  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin protocol standarization on: December 09, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: theymos_away link=topic=876020.msg9788585#msg9788585 date=1418148102s
... maybe a similarly-simple stack-based language would be appropriate....

Personally I would hope not - I was involved in a hugely funded project to build a stack based VM system before Java existed in the early 90's and as a programmer (who worked on that project) I can say that I am no fan of such stack based languages (they are far less elegant than using a more traditional CPU style approach).
2723  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin protocol standarization on: December 09, 2014, 05:52:53 PM
I very much doubt that Bitcoin's script could be of any use as it is not Turing complete and although actual Bitcoin transactions are handled by it things like re-orgs cannot be handled by it at all (nor could it handle any of the p2p stuff).
2724  Economy / Services / Re: Will Math for Crypto on: December 09, 2014, 03:21:08 PM
How is your stats math gong fu?

Are you up to providing accurate math for the probabilities of consensus with a different algo to PoW or PoS?
2725  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin protocol standarization on: December 09, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
I am also keen to understand the VM suggestion and why @gmaxwelll thinks that would be better than just creating a C/C++ lib with wrappers for other languages to use.

Are we talking about a new VM that is just for Bitcoin?
2726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Options for Securing your Bitcoin wallet on: December 09, 2014, 12:39:12 PM
The CIYAM Safe (https://susestudio.com/a/kp8B3G/ciyam-safe) is another offline transaction signing solution (100% air-gapped by usage of QR codes and cams).
2727  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is Bitcoin Core's method of encryption? on: December 08, 2014, 05:46:54 AM
It uses AES256 with the number of rounds I believe being dependent upon your hardware (therefore that number would be stored in the wallet itself).

There is also a salt string used (which is presumably from a random source).
2728  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:26:51 PM
You can't equate the fact that the funds haven't been taken with the concept that the funds can't be taken.

You are really *reaching with this* - so you think that someone has worked out my private key and not taken the funds. Cheesy

Then I'd ask that person to sign a message showing that they have the private key otherwise your post is rather ridiculous.
2729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:20:46 PM
Clearly nobody has emptied the address yet, but that is a very bad way of determining if something is secure or not.

Well - if no-one can empty my address then how would you explain that?

(luck?)
2730  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:17:42 PM
Therefore, it must be comeplete secure from anyone ever stealing it.

Sure - let's just get back to the address I mentioned and the funds - not some imaginary situation.
2731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:15:46 PM
My point is that you can't assume, just because nobody has written the correct software to crack your brainwallet, that nobody ever will.  You also can't assume that nobody in the entire world will every attempt to store their bitcoins using the exact same method as you (completely by coincidence) and stumble upon your bitcoins.

No one is assuming anything other than that.

This is about entropy - if my passphrase entropy is not good enough then the funds will be stolen.
2732  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
@Danny - there are people running software 24x7 to hack weak passwords - you know this.

So why pretend that you don't?

Again there is still 1 BTC there.

Steal it (oh yes - I forgot - you can't).
2733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 07:07:45 PM
Does this mean that I've found a secure way to store my vehicle?  Certainly my 50 years is longer than your 2 years.

So you are over 50 years old now?

(seriously that is not a good argument)

If my key could have been found easily it would have already been found.
2734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
A big part of the reason I created this topic was to measure the thinking that others have about brainwallets.

It is correct that most people are not capable of creating good brainwallets but to suggest that no-one can do this is IMO just wrong. If I lose the 1 BTC I've exposed then maybe I'll have to change my thinking - but until then I am saying brainwallets are a great way to store funds for those that have the capability to do so.

And btw - anyone trying to find my key by following the suggestions that I made in this topic won't have a chance to get my 1 BTC.  Grin
2735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:46:42 PM
I will say that while I do agree its possible, why not just use a RNG to help choose dictionary words?
If you don't trust computers, dice or cards work great.

The human brain is far more capable than most people seem to give it credit for - so I give this 1 BTC wallet as an example of that (if I lose that 1 BTC it is not as though it won't be noticed now).

Again I am not against using random methods to help but after seeing the failures of PRNG's before I'd rather trust myself than an OS that might have a buggy PRNG (of course the dice suggestion is a good one).
2736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
True - if you use a bad passphrase for your brainwallet you'll lose your funds almost instantly.

But the purpose of this topic is not to debate about that but whether or not you can actually protect BTC with a good brainwallet (as nearly every topic I have read on this forum about brainwallets suggests that my 1 BTC should have already been stolen).

So why is my 1 BTC not stolen?
2737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
I am not sure this would be long enough. It may be a good start, but I would say you probably need to have additional words at the end of the the above.

The actual length I used for my brainwallet is longer but not much longer (again I will state that this address was created over 2 years ago and has not been hacked).

Am sure there are some now trying to crack my address but that's okay - this is the experiment I am doing.
2738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
If you can't remember it, it can not be called a brainwallet. If you can remember it, it has a fraction of the entropy of any PRNG.

And we have seen broken PRNGs lead to the loss of many Bitcoins already.

I personally trust my own brain more than than a PRNG - if you wish to trust a PRNG that is of course your choice.
2739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:22:27 PM
I think it is fairly easy to create a brainwallet with enough entropy to protect the coins. It is more challenging to remember the formula with no mistakes a few years from now.

As stated - I checked the address by remembering my passphrase before I created the topic (so I have managed to remember it now for over 2 years).
2740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge to the idea that no-one can create a good brainwallet on: December 07, 2014, 06:14:56 PM
@itod - if my brainwallet doesn't have enough entropy then why does it still have 1 BTC?

I am not against hardening one's brainwallet but my point is rather a simple one - if no-one can possibly come up with a secure brainwallet then why do I still have 1 BTC (I should have zero) and this brainwallet has existed for over 2 years (presumably since I've now made this address public the funds should be gone very soon).

So let's see how quickly I lose the 1 BTC (I have published this address as an experiment).
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