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27241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Panda Miner using Pirated KMS activator for WIndows 10? on: January 02, 2017, 02:21:04 AM
Replied..

Yes its an important issue to protect the community. Doesn't matter whether you've been mining for 5 years or 1 day -- this kind of info should be transparent to all!

yeah  can't tell if pandaminer did this on purpose of if someone use software to lift the key and then passed it out.

But for usa it is not a good copy.

thanks to op for breaking my balls about it  .  but when I finally got it in english  i found it was not activated  I researched codes and kms spoofing

see the review thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733723.0


I dont steal micro soft codes.   so I will keep thread locked until I get a new msata and a new windows 10 installed.

So I ordered:

 1 8gb stick of ram
 1 64gb msata ssd
 1 windows 10

all from amazon.

once again my thanks to kisk for checking my evidence on pm
and to nu2mining for pushing on the windows 10 copy as to if it is good.

So once again  it is not good but I am not sure if pandaminer was ripped or it they loaded it that way.

so a legit win 10 is around 70-85 usd.  the ssd and the ram is about 85.

so 170 in upgrades.  thanks to all.
27242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 02, 2017, 02:16:31 AM
Interview is locked for now  until I load a legal USA copy of win 10 onto a new msata


see first post


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733723.0


So after a day of research  I concluded the windows 10 on this pandaminer  has a windows 10 enterprise LTSB 2015 code laid on top of it.

There is a different thread with more info on it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735560.0;all

I am not a lawyer  and do not pretend to know the law.

But I think this is very gray. 

I AM TELLING MICROSOFT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PAY FOR A SINGLE PC CODE THAT ACTIVATES THE WINDOWS 10 ENTERPRISE LTSB 2015 ON THE PANDAMINER WHICH SOLVES ALL THE ISSUES WITH THIS OS ON THIS PC.
27243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Panda Miner using Pirated KMS activator for WIndows 10? on: January 02, 2017, 01:11:48 AM
Phil, its very easy to tell. If your current setup has been fully activated as genuine previously then you should be able to reinstall a fresh Win10 and it should activate successfully because of the generated systemID which is saved on the MS activation servers. There are other ways to identify a pirated copy of the OS as well. PM me for more clarification or questions.

As a reviewer I'd think that a properly licensed OS is pretty crucial if you're trying to sell a rig and should be included in any review as to whether the OS is legit or not.

Of course it should be included .

But as I pointed out it is an enterprise version and it may be spoofed by one of the customers of pandaminer

Send me a pm.  as I sent one to you.

the windows 10 enterprise version I have  is compromised just not sure that pandaminer did it. or that a customer of theirs did it to them.
27244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Panda Miner using Pirated KMS activator for WIndows 10? on: January 02, 2017, 12:35:00 AM
I think it is not a legit activation.

But I am not sure at the moment .

We are going to need some clarification on it.

I am not a coder/software guy.

I have a standard legit windows 10 and I will pull the stock msata out and attempt an install.

The software does have a activation code that does not work at the moment.

Could be due to date change.

The Windows 10 enterprise lbst. Is the most basic version of windows 10. It is stripped of edge browser.

And of Microsoft store.  There are ways to spoof the system if the code is bad.  I do not recommend that.
I also don't know if a new windows 10 install will work.  So for now it could be an issue.

I am awaiting a old school msata as I do not want to erase the included msata.

Once I know I can run the unit with the new msata and a good windows 10 install.

I can be more aggressive fucking with the stock. Msata build.

I did not want to deal with the issue specifically on the review since I will not be able to know for sure about the quality of the windows build until weds or thur at best.


I did some research on windows 10 enterprise lbst builds

The activation code say 12345 can be purchased from Microsoft and every machine in your company will have the same code say 12345.

Your company may purchase a 10 to 500 or more license .

So if I get a machine my code would be 12345 and if the op got a machine he would have a 12345 code and no issue happens until all 500 are used on the code.

Spoofing involves multiple methods.  But. Let's say they are fully honest and did buy a 500 machine code.

Some scumbag got a machine. 25 days ago and uses a code finder program extracts the code and uses it 100 times not once for his one machine.

The other machines have not been activated so I get mine 3 days ago and have an issues switching to,English
So today I get it in English.  And I try to activate my machine. With the provided code and it does not work

Due to an early bird piece of shit that used the code 100 times vs the 1 time they were entitled to!

Well if the code does not work for me the reason above is just as likely as pandaminer tried cheating codes.

I do think there is an issue because my code ends in say 12345.  And I found a tutorial on how to spoof windows 10 enterprise lbst.

In that tutorial they gave a full activation code. And the last set of,numbers are indentical to the code,on my machine.

So did pandaminer use the tutorial or did the tutorial rob pandaminer?

All this does not belong on my review thread at the moment since I do not know why the above occurred.

It does need to be mentioned that the included windows has an issue.  Which I did mention first as stuck in Chinese and then as not allowing activation.  At first I thought it was due to the year change but finding a match of my last numbers and of the online method to spoof is troublesome.

27245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 10:43:32 PM

20 inches wide and 8 inches deep 4 inches high.


Bummer, means using it in a enclosed rack would be a challenge if not impossible as I thought because of cables sticking out of both sides.


 Too wide to fit in a standard 19" rack anyway.



this unit is meant to be on this stand.  10 units fit 2 on each shelf with this psu on top
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966135.0
https://www.shelving.com/12x24-Wire-Shelving-w-5-Shelves-p/sc122472-5p.htm

you have 80 gpus running  in a small area you need good fans

27246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
for upgrades i believe these mxm cards upgrade should work in the pandaminer

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/mxm-video-card

yes they may do so.

I have some photos of inside

easy to open just need a philips screwdriver. there is 1 screw   opening to get to ram and msata it is on the bottom of the unit.

once you take that screw you can see the 1 stick of ram the 64gb msata




older style msata


remove that 1 stick of ram and the heat sink screws for the cpu are all accessable



here is the cpu heat sink



here is 1 of 8 gpu heat sinks 2 screws to remove

27247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
So this mobile CPU is aprox. 65% slower than common used G1840. It could be problem.

I opened the case.

it fits 1 4gb stick of ram


https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PC3-12800-DDR3-1600MHz-Unbuffered-M471B5173DB0-YK0/dp/B00CV5GWHC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?

same specs as the samsung above.

so I ordered this ram below

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PC3L-12800-204-Pin-SoDimm-M471b1g73bh0-yk0/dp/B00J8U549K/ref=sr_1_1?

1 screw opens the door to ram slot and old mSata slot the drive below has same specs as stock ssd

https://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Drive-mSATA-Solid/dp/B00LNEXNU6/ref=sr_1_1?


I will upgrade to this one
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Premier-SP310-Excellent-ASP310S3-128GM-C/dp/B00ELQZCKW/ref=sr_1_1?


while I am at it I will get a copy of windows 10 and attempt to install it.

it looks like I can take heat sink off the cpu
it looks like I can take the heat sinks off the gpus
27248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 07:43:49 PM





Hey Phil.  I will help you out.  In the first desktop picture.  There are icons with Chinese characters.  From the upper left corner.  To the right one column, 1st row.  The text file is "Mining Process Instruction step.txt".  Not a literal translation, but the closest translation.

1st column, row 4, Zcash plus a bunch of Chinese character.  It means "Zcash shortcut".
1st column, row 6.  "Cpu-Z 1.9 shortcut".
1st column, row 7. "360 extreme speed viewer" or "browser".  I've never seen that before.

Windows test mode allows unsigned drivers to be run and installed, and bypasses quite a bit of driver digital signature validation.

The team viewer on second column, row 7, allows remote desktop viewing.  May have the "share screen" function.  Don't know what version it is.  It's a collaboration tool.



Very much appreciated.
I am going out with the wife to walk off the New Years party.
I will post the chrome page later and ask for more help.

To all I have found a place to buy activation codes for the build. So worst case is the gears activation code is bad. And you will need a code.
The place I found will sell a five pc code.
It could be pandaminers code is good and this is just a New Year's Eve issue.

Still mining very well.
Issues left are I do not know how to enter bios.
I loaded gpuz via chrome
I loaded CPUs z via chrome
I loaded chrome to a USB stick on a different pc.
Then load chrome from that stick.
Still mixes Chinese and English but better more English less Chinese.
I can get on bitcointalk.org via the chrome I loaded.

I use zero passwords or accounts on the unit due to security fears.

What I need to do is find out if I can load a new windows 10 on a new ssd.
And I need to understand why I must use the hdmi jack for the Intel CPU

Vs the hdmi jack for the gpus.

Loading AMD 16.11.3 and more of the same.

I do not want to brick the hdd / ssd so I will need. To open case tomorrow to decide if
Ram
CPU
Ssd
Can be upgraded.
I will also check fans and gpus.

Lastly I have used the evga 1600 g2
I will swap the oem psu on Monday or Tuesday.
27249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 06:26:10 PM
I did 2 more photos.
I installed gpu z
I installed cpu z

I am still stuck using the motherboard for display
And I can not seem to get into the motherboard bios as of today.


note lower right on second shot this is a windows 10  enterprise LTSB

according to wiki

the most stripped down version of windows 10 that there is.
as for the activating code there is one that is not working.

two reasons could be year change.


or  repeat use of code. So you may need an activation code. I will go back and edit a post on this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions

WIKI TALKS ABOUT THIS :


   Enterprise LTSB

Windows 10 Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) is similar to Windows 10 Enterprise but does not include Cortana, Windows Store, the Edge browser, Photo Viewer and the UWP version of Calculator (replaced by classic version), and will not receive any feature updates, gives companies more control over the update process. Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB also lacks the same components absent in other N variants (see below), and it is the most stripped down edition of Windows 10 available.[4][6]

This is why getting the switch to English was a bit harder then other editions.

As of today My code may or may not be good.  So if you want to run a legal windows you may need to buy  an activation code.  Or maybe not
I will keep updating this.


And 1 update

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1303247-windows-10-ltsb-where-to-buy




27250  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA on: January 01, 2017, 05:14:17 PM
Btc is just about 1000 usd  

I sold 1.007 coins at coinbase.

I wonder if rally gets us over 1000 today.
27251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
Guys I am deleting all posts on windows 10.

I had issues changing to English and it is now changed to English thanks to the YouTube videos posted by

Felix73.

This is a windows 10 enterprise edition with a key provided.

It won't activate at the moment but it happens to be 2017. My guess is by the end of the week Friday 6th. The activation will work.

I have not opened the case as of now.

Since it is now in English and also can be in multiple languages I will need a bit of time to figure more out about the included windows 10.

Others are getting the gear and will try a Linux install.

Hell I have not gotten into the bios as of now.  So I do not want to hear people talk about the software unless they have a machine and have real info on machine software tweaks and upgrades
27252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 03:34:26 PM
Okay I finally got this to switch to English.

So this is a Windows Enterprise   and it has a key and it seems to not be activated.

Still some residual Chinese after effects.

So here is the deal every post about this being bootleg or pirated  will be deleted .

I can not deal with the question at the moment and I am not going to waste time  since I am not sure at the moment.

I still am playing with the software  and I am a nuts and bolts type of guy not a software guy.

I will post a photo of the screen in English.
27253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 02:53:28 PM
Since you got the chinese version of Windows 10....
IS IT ACTIVATED?
IS IT PIRATED?
can you provide proof that it is a legit activated copy of Windows 10?

70 decibles is loud, at 90 decibles you get hearing damage....

and these things will be ridiclous to resell... not worth getting stuck with this in one year when better GPU's come out like the new vega line...

anyways, very curious if this copy is legit and activated.. something tells me... its either not activated or pirated.


it is activated I deleted your post but kept it quoted here.

I will  do this over the next day or two  delete the posts and quote them.
27254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum's Block Reward might be reduced from 5 ETH to 1.5 ETH on: January 01, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Yeah basically the eth foundation is probably pissed off their ETH is worth less from the Summer and they are blaming it on the miners since probably 50% of all the eth mined daily is dumped daily.



risky move in my opinion.

http://coinmarketcap.com/


1    Bitcoin   $15,487,372,567   $963.38   16,076,162---- BTC   $76,229,300   1.02%   
2   Ethereum   $720,712,570---   $8.24   87,474,566---- ETH   $10,170,000   3.68%


18    Zcash   $16,729,309----   $48.42   345,506-------- ZEC   $503,671   -0.08%



87 million eth coins                   that = common


345 thousand  Zcash coins         that = rare


so a block size reduction   will not make eth rare
27255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 x 480 on 1000w PSU? on: January 01, 2017, 09:47:24 AM
Will 5 x 480's be fine for all algo's on an EVGA 1000w Gold?

maybe  eth would have an issue
27256  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: January 01, 2017, 09:45:17 AM


Check it out - a 2Pac two-pack!







Note this is not the most up-to-date code, that's in active development on a different machine. I believe some improvement has already been made in new-work timings that pretty much maximize the possible hashrate (WU should be more like 153) so that's good.

I found one small issue with the PCB which has already been corrected on the design files, having to do with the new buck layout. Very small issue. Everything else, all the chained power, node-level IO voltages and signal shifters are all working exactly as expected.

At 100MHz (11GH, equivalent to 200MHz single chip) I'm already seeing ~10% power savings over the original Compac. Pretty sweet.

So I should be sending off for PCBs first of next week. I'll need to restock on some parts before building more of these, but they're all parts I need to buy anyway for the full batch.

sweetness
27257  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is it worth to mine with AntMiner S9 with 0.16$/kWh? on: January 01, 2017, 06:34:09 AM
Hi

Im thinking about buying one (or if it would be worth 2) AntMiner S9.
I live in a City where the average price per kWh is 0.16$ and what I heard is, that that is pretty high.. also I heard that a problem of the S9 is, that it breaks quickly.
So my question is, would it even be worth to get one or two S9 with a power cost of 0.16$ kWh? Or is this not profitable/ too risky? Huh

With kind regards
Dead__Master

My guess is you,will earn .5 to .7 coins over the next 240 days you wil then need to sell the machine for 1 coin

That means 1.7 coin max.
27258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 01, 2017, 05:18:13 AM
so it is possible to any windows 10
change any interface language
I did so on pandamayner



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1el5D15vII

how to change interface language windows 10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMx_LHUdUg



thank you  and happy new year.  I will look at these videos when I wake up in the morning.
27259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: December 31, 2016, 11:58:38 PM
70 DB is not too bad its about the same as a conversation, i would of expected a little higher to be honest!



holy fuck no, 70db is loud as hell !


it is  louder then the avalon 721


avalon 721
avalon 6


panda 8


s-5
s-7
s-9




the s-5 would do 69-72  but sounded nasty
the s-7 a little louder and if you got a whistler it was bad
the s-9 a little louder  and the whistler sound bad.

I can mine the panda 8 in my garage with no fan adjustments all stock settings.

the s-7 and s-9 were too loud
27260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: December 31, 2016, 11:38:05 PM
I think each setup has its advantages and disadvantages to be honest.

Phill dose hit the nail on the head its out the box kinda stuff for the less "advanced" setup user. Also the ascetics are far betting having a nice box there and would look better in home setting,

I look forward to more post's regarding the miner phil,  Will sidehack be getting his hands onto one of these to see if there is any "tweeks" that could be achieved on these machines!



well it is costly.  for me to keep it I will need to sell more gear.  I sold a few hundred usd in parts.

I listed a xfx hd 7970

I will be selling  some mobos psus  and gpus etc.

When it gets warmer  I may ship it to sidehack  maybe he can tweak it a bit.

I don't have a ton of time over this weekend part starts in an hour.  it is right across the street which means I can drink since I wont be driving.

therefore sunday is shot.

 i Hope to tackle the language barrier on monday.

I have a windows 10
 I have the panda 8
I have a mac mini

will setup 3 screens  with the above and see if I can get it to do english. or any language italian or spanish and the wife could help.


it is hard to work with  whenever I get a pop up it tends to be fully chinese I don't want to click it so I power the machine off wait a few minutes then boot.  would not worry doing this but the small power button  is delicate.

I may just boot with no hard drive to see if I can get to the bios.
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