Review of Panda Miner coming up.

[philipma1957]

I locked this thread. 

I do not think PandaMIner is good to buy from.








Some thanks to nu2mining  his posts here on this thread annoyed me at first since I still was stuck on Chinese version of the

 windows 10 enterprise  2015 LTSB  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735560.0

I am striking the info below it is not up to date but I want it to stay intact.  Please go to link above if you want to read more  up-to-date info
on the windows 10 enterprise LTSB software in the pandaminer.


I am not a lawyer  and do not pretend to know the law.

But I think this is very gray.  

I AM TELLING MICROSOFT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PAY FOR A SINGLE PC CODE THAT ACTIVATES THE WINDOWS 10 ENTERPRISE LTSB 2015 ON THE PANDAMINER WHICH SOLVES ALL THE ISSUES WITH THIS OS ON THIS PC.


New info linux works on this!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736623.msg17373579#msg17373579



But he was spot on  the version on my pandaminer looks to be not a legal version for usa use.  which was why it may have been so hard to convert to english.  nu2mining started a thread.  i kept doing research and found a site that spoof windows  they give you an activation code and tell you what to do with it.  The code they give matches the code in my pandaminer which means I have a boot leg windows 10 at least for the USA. I do not know any laws in any other countries.  



Update to windows 10  on my unit.


For now I am halting review.

Here is why



I photos of my activation attempt.

My pc  activation code has the last numbers -76DF9







And screen shots of a way to spoof windows activation with kms



So any one buying this gear  needs to understand that there is an issue with the windows 10 enterprise ltsb license

note the code in my pandaminer matches the code in the tutorial on spoofing activation




 note the codes match each other.



For now I am halting review.

Until I get a new msata and load a new windows 10  



Edit
Just getting thread ready for to night.

SO far I have this psu coming today

The EVGA 1600 g2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLUIE8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?


The pandaminer has left Cincinnati and I will get it later today.

teaser  I will do much more in the next few days



The unit arrived late on Friday.

I am using an evga 1600 g2 power supply and usa 120 volt power.
I am using a kill-a-watt meter.

[philipma1957]

And it powers up and I am in Chinese windows 10 .

I did manage to get msi afterburner to load.

So what do I do to switch from chinese windows 10 to english?

I got it to work in chinese/english mix

good numbers  1600h and  1035 watts

using a evga 1600g2

sound is 70-71 db at 34 inches

[UGMZ]

Chinese windows 10? Dam.. nothing worse that hunting for the change language section when its nothing but crazy symbols!

Look forward to the report though.

Quick question what model of DB meter is that you have there?

[philipma1957]

Chinese windows 10? Dam.. nothing worse that hunting for the change language section when its nothing but crazy symbols!

Look forward to the report though.

Quick question what model of DB meter is that you have there?

the meter is a sper scientific 840029.

this seems to have 4g cards that do about 205h each.

it is a fucking monster .  

20 inches wide and 8 inches deep 4 inches high.

[UGMZ]

70 DB is not too bad its about the same as a conversation, i would of expected a little higher to be honest!

[philipma1957]

So what do I do to switch from chinese windows 10 to english?

Open Control Panel

Open Region (icon is a clock in front of the earth)

The first field: is the language selection field.

select English; then OK or Apply at the bottom of the window

can you post a photo of this





here is a screen shot of it poolside






and after an upgrade from claymore 9.1  to claymore 9.3

[PanneKopp]

Why not make a clean win7_64 install ?

If I would be panda and chinese, I would be afraid of loosing my face, in this "language" case.

The producer decides about the market of his (alpha?) product ^^ .

... just my 2 cents.


  PanneKopp

[philipma1957]

Language switch is harder then it looks


I get to this spot


https://postimg.org/image/4swbdebhl/


 and all choices are written in chinese





many photos

box is 32 inches long



box is   13  inches wide



has the good foam   comes with a power cord that does not work in usa
and has a custom psu  which  will allow for a   c13 to 5-15p usa power cord    the psu need 220-240 volts





unit on left   psu on right


width of unit is  7.5- 8 inches



length of unit is 19.75-20 inches







https://i.imgur.com/r9tjFGe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/k7xitiA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/soQpACP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/s2ygF1K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GYOyXEp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XRv0buk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JXjvaNT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NUyJREm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wLFyJYF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7lfUyzZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hoT5HGi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QyScgUC.jpg

[adaseb]

Since every noise db meter is different, how is it in noise compared to an S5, S7?

[charles2k]

Claymore zcash which version? Fans - adjustable speed?
CPU, RAM?

[UGMZ]

Where is the official sale for this miner?  found one site but looks like cheap photoshop graphics to "lure" you in..

Nice photos, always good to see unboxing speeds look good too from the photo's

[philipma1957]

Since every noise db meter is different, how is it in noise compared to an S5, S7?

s5 s7 s9 all are hasty pitched

this is better.  if I wanted to I could run it in my garage




@
UGMZ

http://www.pandaminer.com/

@

charles2k  claymore 9.1  don't know about any fan adjustments since the gpu's don't have fans


I am working at  switching it to english.

[philipma1957]

Language switch is harder then it looks


so many photos








some test gear and top view




shot of included psu



the left hdmi is gpu the right hdmi is  mobo  only 2 usb's  not 3

a third one would be nice to allow for software upgrades  eth jack and not tiny power button

you need a stick to push it  note leds are dark even though  I turn on psu

Fans fire up when psu turns on  for safety no over heating.








once I pushed the power button leds lite up.

I struggled to get an image on the sony tv using a hdmi to hdmi cable




note all leds lite up it is working


















https://i.imgur.com/JXjvaNT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NUyJREm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wLFyJYF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7lfUyzZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hoT5HGi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QyScgUC.jpg

[TheYankeesWin!]

So Phil  if you can't get it to fully switch to English  what will you do?

[philipma1957]

First thing it is a beast.

I went on one of the other pc's and loaded clay  9.3 onto a usb stick then put it on this machine

running clay 9.3 with ssl  and I am doing 8 x 217 = 1736  

the watts at the wall with the evga 1600 g2 =       1062

 
so for zec  you could get away with the evga 1300 g2
I suspect you need the evga 1600 g2 for eth.
this has 8  4gb gpus rx 480's

I did get a 240 volt only psu with it.  that is supposed to be able to run it.

I will f with that over the few days.

It is late and I am going to crash.

I have part english   on this. I may not be able to full choose english.

I am not going to f with the windows 10 ssd as I do not want to   erase any important info.


9.3 is 1736 h 1062 watts
9.1 is 1630 h 1033 watts?



This is fucking genius   the jacks do not allow you to reverse the pcie cable
absolutely brillant


find the person that thought of this  and make this on all miners!



Here it is doing clay 9.1


https://i.imgur.com/7lfUyzZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hoT5HGi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QyScgUC.jpg

[Prelude]

Looks like I have a big plate of crow to eat! Fantastic looking piece of kit. I still don't see the point vs building your own 7 or 8 GPU rig, though. Especially when it comes time to sell the hardware or upgrade.. But this is good for quick deployment and people who are clueless when it comes to building a PC.

[philipma1957]

Looks like I have a big plate of crow to eat! Fantastic looking piece of kit. I still don't see the point vs building your own 7 or 8 GPU rig, though. Especially when it comes time to sell the hardware or upgrade.. But this is good for quick deployment and people who are clueless when it comes to building a PC.

the unit has nice size.
Fit is good parts are quality.

If you look closely the power button is small. A complaint.
The case is nice sturdy.
The fans are quality
The seven jacks that take in the six pin pcie cables are designed to prevent upside entry see photo.

So outside looks good.

I will open case.
I want to pull the ssd and load a fresh windows install.

I read on micro soft website that certain windows builds of ten can not switch from Chinese to English you can get a mix at best.   So far the best I can do is get it to do,some English but the internet is still giving me all
Chinese which sucks.

I got claymore 9.3 to work on a different pc I then copied it to a USB stick.

I pulled the keyboard put the USB stick In as the panda has two USB .

Then i simply clicked on the 9.3 file and boom. 1630 is now about 1740. Watts 1030 became 1060.

A miner doing 1740 with 1060 watts is nice. But this unit is very small.  I believe you can fit a lot more gear in the right spot.

[jimmy_007vn]

Hi Phil, how about the temperature of this box?

[Searing]

Looks like I have a big plate of crow to eat! Fantastic looking piece of kit. I still don't see the point vs building your own 7 or 8 GPU rig, though. Especially when it comes time to sell the hardware or upgrade.. But this is good for quick deployment and people who are clueless when it comes to building a PC.

the unit has nice size.
Fit is good parts are quality.

If you look closely the power button is small. A complaint.
The case is nice sturdy.
The fans are quality
The seven jacks that take in the six pin pcie cables are designed to prevent upside entry see photo.

So outside looks good.

I will open case.
I want to pull the ssd and load a fresh windows install.

I read on micro soft website that certain windows builds of ten can not switch from Chinese to English you can get a mix at best.   So far the best I can do is get it to do,some English but the internet is still giving me all
Chinese which sucks.

I got claymore 9.3 to work on a different pc I then copied it to a USB stick.

I pulled the keyboard put the USB stick In as the panda has two USB .

Then i simply clicked on the 9.3 file and boom. 1630 is now about 1740. Watts 1030 became 1060.

A miner doing 1740 with 1060 watts is nice. But this unit is very small.  I believe you can fit a lot more gear in the right spot.

Well just in my case at 1760mh and 1060 watts at my winter rate of 10c kwh (which is weird...should be 11c may really be that) and my summer rate of 14c kwh starts may 15th)

anyway at the above NOW at 10c kwh I get $0.25/hr $5.92/day $41.41 a week $177.48 a month and $2159.39 a year...again at that 10c rate (which won't last)

soooo..there is a whole 'nother' kettle of fish to consider

I used this link for this

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/zcash-mining-calculator

I COULD (in that I will mine enough LTC or scrypt next year to use this at the 100% equipment deduction with IRS thus 25% off taxes owed all allowed 1st year) as a deduction in 2017
I COULD justify that ..kinda sorta ....toy wise

That would knock my real $$$ invested from what was it? at $2130 down to say $1597.50 for the unit?...kinda tempting IF you believe Z-cash can survive at these
higher and higher difficulties....and/or gpu mining in general..kinda/sorta

unsure...but anyway as an aside use the above calculator or the above home business tricks if in the USA and see where you stand

some folk on bitcointalk at 4c kwh on here and the equip deduction above (if you mine enough coin and legal with IRS) this would make sense I guess

but damn 30 day warranty...sheesh....one bad bump from china and your so screwed in shipping damage

interesting thou it is

edit:

Public Service Announcement .....coward runs away like small child

In the interest of FAIRNESS on here ..I HAD $4K of equip (10 gpu cards 2 rigs rx 480 etc etc) that I just dumped for $3K with the addtitional PSU's (server 2560) I can use
on Titans in basement as an upgrade etc (psu's $600 for both)

Again I just 'punted' and took the 1K loss (again with next years loss put on 2017 Taxes that will hopefully be about $750 buck loss on the 2 units in real money..I now I can
get $250 usd back in real money that way in 2017). I was looking at zCash and ethereum etc and made 750k on the lisk pos coin ICO....thus went what the heck..it all is/was
treading water....dump the GPU's get the PSU's and you can see my 'yellow back' sprinting towards the trees as I leave you all on the gpu/zcash/ethereum battle field (I so
relieved...er I mean ashamed)

So I'm calling the 2 efforts with the loss on the GPU's and the small pump on the LISK above a draw and saving the last 3k on this 'experiment' ....gave a buddy with better electric etc a deal so at least HE can ROI on this....so tossed self overboard....only one can survive imho

You can all tell me how wrong I was but 'punted' and ran away like a small child when this all takes off not the first boat I probably missed nor the last

maybe I'm learning something in crypto? Anyway 3k in hand left in BTC seems the better bet...I also got to keep the server PSU's ($600) on the 2 units at 2560watts
I want to use on Titans at home (already paid) so hell I ran like the wind.......a lot of running about this last 5 months for oranges to oranges...but hey us small
children scare easy!

just thought I'd toss that out their so you can see the cowards way on this whole GPU revival on pow coins
and everyone has this thread/bitcointalk I'm on record so you can give me grief on this someday ..if this is yet another boat missed....

So take anything I say on anything GPU related this or other stuff with a grain of salt...again I am running away as fast as possible .......(its true) alas...

Just made it to the trees...you guys really, really did not have to fire at my back to increase my sprint (as*hole*s) ..but good luck with the war!

I now end this 'public service' announcement of my cowardice in the face of GPU and POW mining endeavors.....and 'slink' away....

(now on bleachers watching from sidelines)

[Amph]

what's the point of this if the consumption is way higher than a normal rig with 6 x 480 or 470?

a 6 x 470 rig can do 600 watt 1400-1500, that thing consume more than 1k watt for just the same hash...