at the current price, its about the same cost as building a 7-8 gpu rig yourself (which has good resale value)
in exchange for a bit better efficiency/simplicity, you end up with GPUs that are nearly impossible to resell
these units would be good in a cheap power spot that sound is not an issue. They also would be good if the spot is small. I would love to get one to fully test and demo to see if it has more practical uses.
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email sent
I am also pming you.
pm sent
Thanks, I got the email and pm and will work on it shortly. Yes, the transaction fees were nice for this block. I think that's the largest we've done. If the fees continue to grow like that we might need to reconsider how they're distributed. At some point the fees will be larger than the mining subsidy and it'd be weird for the block finder to get the majority of the reward while the other miners get the smaller subsidy. It has been a while I can't get into my cex.io account and I still have the one account with you that has good coin. 71602a00 HAS 0.22658875 BTC along with some: namecoin please keep that syscoin please keep that devcoin please keep that. please send the 0.22658875 BTC to https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjeplease make the btc address on that account 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje I want to point .1btc to the pool with nice hash rental thanks phil cex.io killed the address see below ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOz7qtn3.png&t=663&c=n-nYj1HrECK4rQ)
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Phil, check what fedex has it labeled as. Mine was labeled scrap iron/steel. A quick call to them to let them know it was computer hardware and they zeroed the bill.
thanks I saw the word aluminum let me check. it reads bitcoin miner model:s9 the material aluminum electronic components etc use for get bitcoin by operate the other one reads bitcoin miner model :r4 the material aluminum cn maybe I can get some relief. @ longsnowsm there simply won't be a new piece of gear from them. they are head and shoulders above any other company take a look at hashnest they sell cloud s7's that still earn a good profit never mind the s9's they sell they have zero need for an s10 or an s11 at the moment.
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Phil,
Russian guys got one - so miners exist. Hopefully you will get yours soon
well at least one person I have done some business with has one. I am really hoping they send me one .
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i got a mail that i should pay the miner, but when you click "PAY" the site is blank...anyone else?
Sorry for any inconvenience , we have fixed the problem, please check it . and if you have made the pre-order, you need to click your orders to complete the full payment. still not working, and yes i made the pre-order if i click pay to get the 1825$ Remainder it end up in a white blank page. It should be working now, we are really sorry for this. Can you please try again? Payment worked now, waiting for shipment. So you purchased one? Remember the op promised to send me one that I would demo. then pay him. he has yet to honor that promise. I do not have one nor have I been told when it gets sent to me. So far there seems to be a wrong thing happening here. Well if you get it good luck. If I ever get one to demo I will post a fair and honest review. But I have nothing but empty promises at the moment.the last email sent was. 12-16-2016 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD285m4J.png&t=663&c=PlT9rSzeh2lBQg)
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One of the boards in my R4 is having some issues. It needs to be restarted every few hours in order to hash, otherwise my rate falls down to 4TH/s. One chip temp reading is way higher than the rest, at 97 while the others 3 readings are around 65-75. I'm guessing this probably has something to do with it. Any advice on how I should proceed? Bitmain wants me to send the entire unit back at my cost, which given the expense and time involved, has me thinking that I'd be better off keeping it as a 4TH miner and cutting my losses considering the unit never functioned properly. Especially since they'd probably deny my claim because the first thing I did was remove the boards to see if there was a loose heatsink. Any advice? Should I send the malfunctioning board in for repair? Should I try buying a new controller to see if that is the issue?
Did you try asking bitmainwarranty? Most likely it is best to just mine with 1 board if you have to ship entire unit to China. I would think it is 200 to ship it. I just got an idea. How many people are in your spot. If you and a guy just like you put 2 good boards in one machine and 2 dead boards in the other machine. then send the dead one to china it would allow for constant hashing with 1 full machine and only 1 shipment to china. so shipping to china is ½. it would actually save bitmain as they would only need send 1 machine back to the usa. I think they pay for return shipping. So I ask bitmain would you allow this. It helps everyone involved with the exception of fedex/dhl/ups
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Didn't received it !
got busy sorry. before I forget my new evga board is acting up. so I kind of think only the biostar is good.
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Hey phil I just read you got stuck $78 in customs?
WTF?
Yeah My r4 and s9 were inside the same week Dec 7th and Dec 12th so they combined the value and taxed me. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) read quote below I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex
$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7
$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12
Since each item was well under 2500 in value
I should have paid $0
I contacted fedex
here is their explantion
the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value
total is 2,636.66 since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.
My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.
So I now must add $78.81 to my cost
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I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex
$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7
$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12
Since each item was well under 2500 in value
I should have paid $0
I contacted fedex
here is their explantion
the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value
total is 2,636.66 since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.
My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.
So I now must add $78.81 to my cost
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With coins at 940! I am tempted to try a little more at hitting the big one. A block is now 940 x 12.5 = 11,750 usd
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Okay this is the psu it lists at 99 at newegg . I paid 95 about 1 year ago. I used it for my linux build to run sidehacks compac sticks I then change that build to a windows build and used that 1 gpu card mobo to test shitty or weird gpus. so it never used more then 225 watts. It also comes with some extra cables from a second Aurum I had at one time. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104167So I can fit it in a large flat rate box which costs me 18.50 to ship to all fifty usa states So Lets try this you can pick any amount you want from 1 to 60 bucks. You can pick the same as another guy. I will decide who gets the gear. The catches are: 1) I will charge 25 to ship it. So 25+1 = 26 is the lowest you can pay and 25+60 = 85 is the max you can pay. 2) No newbies at least 30 posts and a Nov 26th 2016 start date 3) pay in btc only to 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje which is my profile address https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile4) I plan to do these sales for about 2 or 3 more months. This sale ends on Dec 28th 9:00PM EST = New York City time Photos in a few minutes, Note the cpu and mobo cables are always attached. The extra cables are mostly hdd/4pin molex and 1 cpu cable which does not work with this model but works on larger fsp models like a 1200 watt or 1000 watt. Since the 1200 watt fsp is gone from my home I am tossing them in. I will mark the cpu cable as not for this model . ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3HVGcR9.jpg&t=663&c=G9QTszdU2EZ6PQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fig8qKBi.jpg&t=663&c=X2FRRHrUZ6p4Dg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYG2wsO6.jpg&t=663&c=Meq9t5m2HUKfUA)
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I think this is a great opportunity to use the S9, I believe this tool will survive good for 4 years into the future (halving day by 2020). I will soon order 1 unit S9 to complete 3 units of S7.
Now that btc is on the rise and almost at $900 I don't think the S9 will last long. We will see the S9 pumped out to the max soon until its at $400 a unit new like the S7 was ground down to. There will be unlimited sales at this price. they have zero need to do that. they make a fortune with hashnest. how many of the s7s below are really s9's? they earn money on them if all are s7s. so when an s7 dies they stick in an s9 and they earn more. as long as hash nest does well they do not need to make a better s9 oh coins are way up over 930 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbUDx3tU.png&t=663&c=0TrVoEsmzE3GUg)
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... I had enough of that segwit moron who threatened the pool (in PM) - that I still have no idea why the mods didn't ban him ...
I would have thought the mods enforced stricter standards with regards to threats. That is an epic fail. Well it was clearly a pro-segwit admin who ignored my reports. He posted in here the same post more than 40 times after I told him not to - the rules seem to suggest that is a bad thing to do ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The admin didn't agree ... It happens in other cases. I got a PM asking me to buy bootleg Claymore software (I know alt coins sorry) The software is designed to steal claymore's fee . I reported it and the guy that sent the software offer is still here. So I would think admin was okay with claymore losing fees since no action was taken.
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Thank you Phil, Unfortunately, I can't find any of the 3 MB at a decent price in any EU country ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Almost the same (or worse) as ordering in the US and paying shipping + customs... pm sent
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here is a pm I got on Christmas Day no less: I deleted some of it> ------------------------------
DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners. Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.
Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR
Miners supported and tested :
- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP) - Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC) - EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC) - Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR) - Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR) - Kachur XMR miner (XMR)
Price : 0.05 btc This offer is happening for 2 reasons the fee is 2.5 with no ssl the fee is 2.0 with ssl Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec. I earn .6-.7 zec a day. My mining gets cut back a lot for the summer so I have 5 months max at 150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins 2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl. so i would be paying .05 btc to save 2 zec coins that is about 0.096 btc So math wise if you have around 8kh and you are a tight with money paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do. not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense. If you are at 16kh it would certainly save you some money. If claymore were to reduce fee to 1% in the 9.3 edtion a cheap dollar oriented miner would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh. So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction. More fee reduction must be done by claymore. 2.5 to 2.0 is a start maybe in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 % paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone. and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1% paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc would really be dumb. Here is a redacted pm ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWaN1TOP.png&t=663&c=NPRTbHVkRPLqYA) you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ? my rigs are not 6 card which would be 72 cards my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each so I do about 185h a card i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining. This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go. so most of mine are four card . 5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjWDkeC6.jpg&t=663&c=3SQcYSO2WEH-eA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpvDWfi2.jpg&t=663&c=oaleOmWKHellcA) I have some 3 card and a 1 card are you use 1 motherboard for it ? I like this mobo for the four card rigs biostar z170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421you can read my review on newegg Philip A.
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Another experience here regarding S9 repairs.
Out of five S9 units I have been through five hash board repairs and one IO / control board replacement. I used bitmainwarranty for various reasons, but mainly because of the time involved. My longest repair took two weeks. The pricing was $175 +$25 shipping three times, $132 including $25 shipping once, and $150 plus $25 shipping once. I purchased the IO and control boards and did the replacement myself on that issue.
Odd thing is two of the S9 units I have purchased were from a great forum member who can mention his name if he wants and four of the hash board repairs were from those two units. All have been ran in the exact same environment and I know this forum member takes great care of his equipment. He provides a great deal of advice and reviews here. Simply luck of the draw for me.
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What I am getting at here is the 14/16 nm process. I expect to see Bitmain release new models, make improvements in various areas, etc, but I do not expect to see another die shrink anytime soon. If more effort is put into tweaking S9 performance we may be able to squeeze much longer life.
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The S9 failure rate is completely unacceptable and I have not purchased another one. I am selling and will continue to sell everything except the S9s, my PSUs, some spare parts and cables. I plan to keep mining and am looking for an opportunity to purchase a bulk order. I have been attempting to find something worth putting a significant amount of cash in for almost a year now. I wanted to purchase x00 S9s when they were released and thank everything good I was ignored by Bitmain. If I had ended up with the same failure rate % you all would be sick of reading my complaining by now. When I tried to discuss the purchase via e-mail, no answer. The Avalons price per TH was too much but it is time I should revisit that price.
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Basically Bitmain have turned so many of their customer relationships into a vengeful type of "I buy from you because I do not have another choice." It has been and still is a long time coming but I can actually see the landscape changing. We will eventually have other choices. I was "first in line" to buy the S7 and S9. Unless I have another choice I will probably still purchase whatever next gen is released, but, I do it because it is what is available. Now, I do want to say my experience with bitmainwarranty in Colorado has been good. I have previously stated I firmly believe there are people working through that site who get it, but are controlled by policies put in place by the CEO in China and he cares about his existing largest accounts who are repeat customers.
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At least we are able to have the S9 hash boards "repaired." If I had known sidehack was repairing these I would have been discussing it with him. It isn't that bitmainwarranty in Colorado have sent me back unrepaired boards but for the price and the lack of details not to mention what sidehack does for this community I believe more of us should find ways to support his endeavours.
Good Luck to all of the home miners. Just since my short time of mining since 2014 so many people have departed. Hopefully many are still involved in various ways. The price of coin is nice and I hope it at least holds around $850 but I fear another drop as I recall the $190s and spent way too many coins around that price range. If I'd only held everything I made in 2015 rather than going all in on S7s I would be at a much higher P/L ratio.
I sold most of my s9s off including 2 to sloopy. And I think sloopy's 2 miners had a pair of replacement boards from bitmainwarranty. The gear was never overclocked and temps were not allowed over 100c I have 2 and ⅓ miners left Buysolar has 2 miners 1 new and 1 old They still work. If you add the 4 dead boards from the 2 I sold to sloopy this brings my gear fail rate from 7 of 28 to 11 of 28. Last I spoke with sloopy he had 1 dead board from the gear I sold him. So I guess 3 more failed. I sold him a full s9 and a ⅔ s9 for 2k so add back say 700 in repairs and he spent 2700 for 20th the sad part is 2700 for 20th is cheaper then getting 3 new avalons which will give you say 19th at 3 x 888 = 2664 plus a controller for 60 = 2724 and of course shipping say 150 so net is 2874 and the gear does .16 watts per gh, Bitmain is the king of asic 256 and truly owns "btc". I am fine with that in every way but one China can decide to go after that company and poof they are gone. What happens to BTC if bitmain gets shut down? Back to gear breaking. It is obvious the s9 is designed to be unreliable. why is that? the only way to beat a free or cheap power guy is sell him shit gear. Most of us mining know we need cheap power and have managed to find it. So if we buy gear we are certain to make money. So bitmain keeps an edge against by sekking shit gear with a shit warranty. we still buy because in sloopys case 2000 for 20th became 2700 for 20th and that still crushes avalon 721. an aside to sloopy I can not get those 2 fans to work not sure why but they are delta and I had some other deltas like them with cockeyed wiring will still play with them some more. I missed saying merry christmas to you but Happy New year ( I am early for that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )
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What is the best, proven AMD Crimson driver version to use for mining ETC/XMR/ZEC? I see that 16.12.1 has been out a few weeks and 16.12.2 out just about a week, but are these recommended yet or would a more proven 16.11 be better for mining?
I use 16.11.3
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why one fury card stop hashing and return incorrect data? i try everything i can not fix it ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) maybe it is dead. do you have a one card testing rig? if you do put it on that rig to see if it works. having a 1 card rig to test suspect cards is helpful right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there. I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.
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here is a pm I got on Christmas Day no less: I deleted some of it> ------------------------------
DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners. Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.
Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR
Miners supported and tested :
- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP) - Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC) - EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC) - Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR) - Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR) - Kachur XMR miner (XMR)
Price : 0.05 btc This offer is happening for 2 reasons the fee is 2.5 with no ssl the fee is 2.0 with ssl Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec. I earn .6-.7 zec a day. My mining gets cut back a lot for the summer so I have 5 months max at 150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins 2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl. so i would be paying .05 btc to save 2 zec coins that is about 0.096 btc So math wise if you have around 8kh and you are a tight with money paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do. not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense. If you are at 16kh it would certainly save you some money. If claymore were to reduce fee to 1% in the 9.3 edtion a cheap dollar oriented miner would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh. So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction. More fee reduction must be done by claymore. 2.5 to 2.0 is a start maybe in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 % paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone. and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1% paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc would really be dumb. Here is a redacted pm ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWaN1TOP.png&t=663&c=NPRTbHVkRPLqYA) you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ? my rigs are not 6 card which would be 72 cards my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each so I do about 185h a card i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining. This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go. so most of mine are four card . 5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjWDkeC6.jpg&t=663&c=3SQcYSO2WEH-eA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpvDWfi2.jpg&t=663&c=oaleOmWKHellcA) I have some 3 card and a 1 card
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here is a pm I got on Christmas Day no less: I deleted some of it> ------------------------------
DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners. Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.
Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR
Miners supported and tested :
- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP) - Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC) - EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC) - Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR) - Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR) - Kachur XMR miner (XMR)
Price : 0.05 btc This offer is happening for 2 reasons the fee is 2.5 with no ssl the fee is 2.0 with ssl Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec. I earn .6-.7 zec a day. My mining gets cut back a lot for the summer so I have 5 months max at 150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins 2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl. so i would be paying .05 btc to save 2 zec coins that is about 0.096 btc So math wise if you have around 8kh and you are a tight with money paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do. not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense. If you are at 16kh it would certainly save you some money. If claymore were to reduce fee to 1% in the 9.3 edtion a cheap dollar oriented miner would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh. So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction. More fee reduction must be done by claymore. 2.5 to 2.0 is a start maybe in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 % paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone. and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1% paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc would really be dumb. Here is a redacted pm ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWaN1TOP.png&t=663&c=NPRTbHVkRPLqYA) you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ? my rigs are not 6 card which would be 72 cards my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each so I do about 185h a card
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