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27321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PandaMiner Launches Global Sales! on: December 28, 2016, 03:09:45 AM
at the current price, its about the same cost as building a 7-8 gpu rig yourself (which has good resale value)

in exchange for a bit better efficiency/simplicity, you end up with GPUs that are nearly impossible to resell

these units would be good in a cheap power spot that sound is not an issue. They also would be good if the spot is small.

I would love to get one to fully test and demo to see if it has more practical uses.
27322  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor on: December 28, 2016, 12:23:21 AM
email sent


I am also pming you.

pm sent
Thanks, I got the email and pm and will work on it shortly. Yes, the transaction fees were nice for this block. I think that's the largest we've done. If the fees continue to grow like that we might need to reconsider how they're distributed. At some point the fees will be larger than the mining subsidy and it'd be weird for the block finder to get the majority of the reward while the other miners get the smaller subsidy.
 

It has been a while  I can't get into my cex.io account  and I still have the one account with you that has good coin.


71602a00      HAS  0.22658875 BTC along with  

some:

 namecoin   please keep that
 syscoin      please keep that
devcoin      please keep that.



please send the 0.22658875 BTC to


https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

please make the btc address on that account 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


I want to point .1btc to the   pool  with nice hash rental

thanks phil

cex.io killed the address see below

27323  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: December 28, 2016, 12:08:22 AM
Phil, check what fedex has it labeled as. Mine was labeled scrap iron/steel. A quick call to them to let them know it was computer hardware and they zeroed the bill.

thanks I saw the word aluminum let me check.

it reads bitcoin miner model:s9 the material aluminum electronic components etc use for get bitcoin by operate

the other one reads

bitcoin miner model :r4 the material aluminum cn


maybe I can get some relief.





@ longsnowsm

there simply won't be a new piece of gear from them.

they are head and shoulders above any other company  take a look at hashnest  they sell cloud s7's  that still earn a good profit  never mind the s9's they sell
  they have zero need for an s10 or an s11 at the moment.
27324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PandaMiner Launches Global Sales! on: December 28, 2016, 12:02:23 AM
Phil,

Russian guys got one - so miners exist. Hopefully you will get yours soon

well at least one person  I have done some business with has one.  I am really hoping they send me one .
27325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The World’s 1st GPU Integrated Miner Is Lauching PRE-SALE! on: December 27, 2016, 07:06:47 PM
i got a mail that i should pay the miner, but when you click "PAY" the site is blank...anyone else?

Sorry for any inconvenience , we have fixed the problem, please check it . and if you have made the pre-order, you need to click your orders to complete the full payment.

still not working, and yes i made the pre-order if i click pay to get the 1825$ Remainder it end up in a white blank page.

It should be working now, we are really sorry for this. Can you please try again?

Payment worked now, waiting for shipment.

So you purchased one?  Remember the op promised to send me one that I would demo.  then pay him.  he has yet to honor that promise.

I do not have one nor have I been told when it gets sent to me. So far there seems to be a wrong thing happening here.  Well if you get it good luck.

If I ever get one to demo I will post a fair and honest review.



 But I have nothing but empty promises at the moment.

the last email sent was. 12-16-2016

27326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence on: December 27, 2016, 05:19:05 PM
One of the boards in my R4 is having some issues.  It needs to be restarted every few hours in order to hash, otherwise my rate falls down to 4TH/s.  One chip temp reading is way higher than the rest, at 97 while the others 3 readings are around 65-75.  I'm guessing this probably has something to do with it.  Any advice on how I should proceed?  Bitmain wants me to send the entire unit back at my cost, which given the expense and time involved, has me thinking that I'd be better off keeping it as a 4TH miner and cutting my losses considering the unit never functioned properly.  Especially since they'd probably deny my claim because the first thing I did was remove the boards to see if there was a loose heatsink.  Any advice?  Should I send the malfunctioning board in for repair?  Should I try buying a new controller to see if that is the issue?

Did you try  asking bitmainwarranty?

Most likely it is best to just mine with 1 board if you have to ship entire unit to China.

I would think it is 200 to ship it.

I just got an idea.  How many people are in your spot.

If  you and a guy just like you put 2 good boards in one machine and 2 dead boards in the other machine.

  then send the dead one to china   it would allow for constant hashing with 1 full machine

and only 1 shipment to china.  so shipping to china is ½.

it would actually save bitmain  as they would only need send 1 machine back to the usa.  I think they pay for return shipping.


So I ask bitmain  would you allow this.  It helps everyone involved with the exception of fedex/dhl/ups
27327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: December 27, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Didn't received it !

got busy  sorry.

before I forget my new evga board is acting up.  so I kind of think only the biostar is good.
27328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: December 27, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
Hey phil  I just read you got stuck $78 in customs?

WTF?

Yeah  My r4 and s9  were inside the same week   Dec 7th and Dec 12th

so they combined the value and taxed me. Embarrassed



read quote below


I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex


$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7


$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12


Since each item was well under 2500 in value

 I should have paid $0

I contacted fedex

here is their explantion

the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value
the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value

total is  2,636.66   since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.

My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.   


 So I now must add $78.81 to my cost
27329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence on: December 27, 2016, 03:22:13 PM
I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex


$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7


$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12


Since each item was well under 2500 in value

 I should have paid $0

I contacted fedex

here is their explantion

the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value
the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value

total is  2,636.66   since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.

My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.   


 So I now must add $78.81 to my cost
27330  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 220 blocks solved! on: December 27, 2016, 03:06:40 PM
Hi guys, what is the best website to rent hash?

Nicehash
www.nicehash.com

With coins at 940!  I am tempted to try a little more at hitting the big one.

A block is now 940 x 12.5 = 11,750 usd
27331  Economy / Computer hardware / Okay selling a FSP aurum plat psu for a small build (450 watt) name your price on: December 27, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
Okay this is the psu it lists at 99 at newegg .

 I paid 95 about 1  year ago.  I used it for my linux build to run sidehacks compac sticks
I then change that build to a windows build and used that 1 gpu card mobo to test shitty or weird gpus.  so it never used more then 225 watts.
It also comes with some extra cables from a second Aurum I had at one time.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104167


So  I can fit it in a large flat rate box  which costs me 18.50 to ship to all fifty usa states



So Lets try this you can pick any amount you want from 1 to 60 bucks.

You can pick  the same as another guy.

I will decide who gets the gear.

The catches are:

1) I will charge 25 to ship it.

So 25+1 = 26 is the lowest you can pay  and 25+60 = 85 is the max you can pay.

2) No newbies   at least 30 posts  and a Nov 26th 2016 start date

3) pay in btc only to 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  which is my profile address

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile

4) I plan to do these sales for about 2 or 3 more months.  

This sale ends on Dec 28th 9:00PM  EST =   New York City time

Photos in a few minutes, Note the cpu and mobo cables are always attached.

 The extra cables are mostly hdd/4pin molex and 1 cpu cable  which does not work with this model but works on larger fsp models  like a 1200 watt or 1000 watt. Since the 1200 watt fsp is gone from my home I am tossing them in.  I will mark the cpu cable as not for this model .






27332  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think Bitmain make better than 16nm in future? I think no. on: December 27, 2016, 02:07:42 PM
I think this is a great opportunity to use the S9, I believe this tool will survive good for 4 years into the future (halving day by 2020). I will soon order 1 unit S9 to complete 3 units of S7.

Now that btc is on the rise and almost at $900 I don't think the S9 will last long. We will see the S9 pumped out to the max soon until its at $400 a unit new like the S7 was ground down to. There will be unlimited sales at this price.

they have zero need to do that.

they make a fortune with hashnest.
how many of the s7s below  are really s9's?

they earn money on them if all are s7s.  so when an s7 dies they stick in an s9  and they earn more.
as long as hash nest does well they do not need to make a better s9

oh coins are way up over 930

27333  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA on: December 27, 2016, 02:01:09 PM
...
I had enough of that segwit moron who threatened the pool (in PM) - that I still have no idea why the mods didn't ban him
...
I would have thought the mods enforced stricter standards with regards to threats. That is an epic fail.
Well it was clearly a pro-segwit admin who ignored my reports.
He posted in here the same post more than 40 times after I told him not to - the rules seem to suggest that is a bad thing to do Tongue
The admin didn't agree ...

It happens in other cases.  I got a PM asking me to buy bootleg Claymore software (I know alt coins sorry)  The software is designed to steal claymore's fee .  I reported it and the guy that sent the software offer is still here.

So I would think  admin was okay with claymore losing fees since no action was taken.
27334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: December 27, 2016, 01:49:14 PM


@vg54dett I think there is an asrock or something else what country are you in?

here is the asrock not sure it will work

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157649



the biostar that works for sure
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421





the evga  that was a real P.I.T.A.  with 3 bios changes needed but it works with an m2 ssd and four cards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH4R24324

note this evga has been a bit shaky .


So to be honest so far the biostar is the king.

I may order the asrock today not sure if I will

Thank you Phil,
Unfortunately, I can't find any of the 3 MB at a decent price in any EU country Sad
Almost the same (or worse) as ordering in the US and paying shipping + customs...

pm sent
27335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 27, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
here is a pm I got  on Christmas Day no less:

I deleted some of it>


------------------------------

DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners.
Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.

Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR

Miners supported and tested :

- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP)
- Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC)
- EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC)
- Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR)
- Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR)
- Kachur XMR miner (XMR)

Price : 0.05 btc



This offer is happening for 2 reasons

 the fee is 2.5 with no ssl
 the fee is 2.0 with ssl

Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec.

I earn .6-.7 zec a day.
My mining  gets cut back a lot for the summer  so I have 5 months max
at  150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins

2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl.

    so   i would  be paying  .05 btc to save 2 zec coins   that is about 0.096 btc


So math wise  if you have around 8kh   and you are a tight with money  paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do.  not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense.

If you are at 16kh  it would certainly save you some money.

If claymore  were to reduce fee to 1%  in the 9.3 edtion

a cheap dollar oriented miner  would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh.

So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction.    More fee reduction must be done by claymore.

2.5 to 2.0 is a start  maybe  in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl

My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc
But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 %  paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone.
and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1%  paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc
would really be dumb.

Here is a redacted pm






you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ?

my rigs are not 6 card   which would be 72 cards

my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each   so I do about 185h a card
i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought

I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining.  This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go.



so most of mine are four card .

5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards






 I have some 3 card  and a 1 card

are you use 1 motherboard for it ?

I like this mobo for the four card rigs biostar z170


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421

you can read my review on newegg   Philip A.
27336  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: December 27, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Another experience here regarding S9 repairs.

Out of five S9 units I have been through five hash board repairs and one IO / control board replacement.
I used bitmainwarranty for various reasons, but mainly because of the time involved. My longest repair took two weeks.
The pricing was $175 +$25 shipping three times, $132 including $25 shipping once, and $150 plus $25 shipping once.
I purchased the IO and control boards and did the replacement myself on that issue.

Odd thing is two of the S9 units I have purchased were from a great forum member who can mention his name if he wants and four of the hash board repairs were from those two units. All have been ran in the exact same environment and I know this forum member takes great care of his equipment. He provides a great deal of advice and reviews here. Simply luck of the draw for me.

...

What I am getting at here is the 14/16 nm process. I expect to see Bitmain release new models, make improvements in various areas, etc, but I do not expect to see another die shrink anytime soon. If more effort is put into tweaking S9 performance we may be able to squeeze much longer life.

...

The S9 failure rate is completely unacceptable and I have not purchased another one. I am selling and will continue to sell everything except the S9s, my PSUs, some spare parts and cables. I plan to keep mining and am looking for an opportunity to purchase a bulk order. I have been attempting to find something worth putting a significant amount of cash in for almost a year now. I wanted to purchase x00 S9s when they were released and thank everything good I was ignored by Bitmain. If I had ended up with the same failure rate % you all would be sick of reading my complaining by now. When I tried to discuss the purchase via e-mail,  no answer. The Avalons price per TH was too much but it is time I should revisit that price.

...
...

Basically Bitmain have turned so many of their customer relationships into a vengeful type of "I buy from you because I do not have another choice." It has been and still is a long time coming but I can actually see the landscape changing. We will eventually have other choices. I was "first in line" to buy the S7 and S9. Unless I have another choice I will probably still purchase whatever next gen is released, but, I do it because it is what is available. Now, I do want to say my experience with bitmainwarranty in Colorado has been good. I have previously stated I firmly believe there are people working through that site who get it, but are controlled by policies put in place by the CEO in China and he cares about his existing largest accounts who are repeat customers.

...

At least we are able to have the S9 hash boards "repaired." If I had known sidehack was repairing these I would have been discussing it with him. It isn't that bitmainwarranty in Colorado have sent me back unrepaired boards but for the price and the lack of details not to mention what sidehack does for this community I believe more of us should find ways to support his endeavours.

Good Luck to all of the home miners. Just since my short time of mining since 2014 so many people have departed. Hopefully many are still involved in various ways. The price of coin is nice and I hope it at least holds around $850 but I fear another drop as I recall the $190s and spent way too many coins around that price range. If I'd only held everything I made in 2015 rather than going all in on S7s  I would be at a much higher P/L ratio.


I sold most of my s9s off including 2 to sloopy.  And I think sloopy's 2 miners had a pair of replacement boards from bitmainwarranty.

The gear was never overclocked and temps were not allowed over 100c

I have 2 and ⅓ miners left
Buysolar has 2 miners 1 new and 1 old

They still work.

If you add the 4 dead boards from the 2 I sold to sloopy this brings my gear  fail rate from 7 of 28 to 11 of 28.

Last I spoke with sloopy  he had 1 dead board from the gear I sold him. So I guess 3 more failed.

I sold him a full s9 and a ⅔ s9   for 2k  so add back say 700 in repairs and he spent 2700 for 20th

the sad part is  2700 for 20th is cheaper then getting 3 new avalons  which will give you say 19th

at 3 x 888 = 2664 plus a controller for 60 = 2724 and of course shipping say 150 so net is 2874  and the gear does .16 watts per gh,  Bitmain is the king of asic 256  and truly owns "btc".

I am fine with that in every way but one China can decide to go after that company and poof  they are gone.
What happens to BTC if bitmain gets shut down?

Back to gear breaking.   It is obvious the s9  is designed to be unreliable. why is that?

the only way to beat a free or cheap power guy is sell him shit gear.  Most of us mining know we need cheap power and have managed to find it.  So if we buy gear we are certain to make money.  So bitmain keeps an edge against by sekking shit gear with a shit warranty.
   we still buy because in sloopys case 2000 for 20th  became 2700 for 20th and that still crushes avalon 721.

an aside  to sloopy  I can not get those 2 fans to work not sure why but they are delta and I had some other deltas like them with cockeyed wiring will still play with them some more.

I missed saying merry christmas to you but Happy New year ( I am early for that    Grin )
27337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. on: December 27, 2016, 02:30:35 AM
What is the best, proven AMD Crimson driver version to use for mining ETC/XMR/ZEC?  I see that 16.12.1 has been out a few weeks and 16.12.2 out just about a week, but are these recommended yet or would a more proven 16.11 be better for mining?

I use 16.11.3
27338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 27, 2016, 12:47:25 AM
why one fury card
stop hashing
and return incorrect data?
i try everything i can not fix it Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

maybe it is dead.

do you have a one card testing rig?

if you do put it on that rig to see if it works.

having a 1 card rig to test suspect cards is helpful

right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there.

I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.
27339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 26, 2016, 09:49:02 PM
here is a pm I got  on Christmas Day no less:

I deleted some of it>


------------------------------

DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners.
Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.

Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR

Miners supported and tested :

- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP)
- Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC)
- EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC)
- Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR)
- Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR)
- Kachur XMR miner (XMR)

Price : 0.05 btc



This offer is happening for 2 reasons

 the fee is 2.5 with no ssl
 the fee is 2.0 with ssl

Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec.

I earn .6-.7 zec a day.
My mining  gets cut back a lot for the summer  so I have 5 months max
at  150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins

2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl.

    so   i would  be paying  .05 btc to save 2 zec coins   that is about 0.096 btc


So math wise  if you have around 8kh   and you are a tight with money  paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do.  not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense.

If you are at 16kh  it would certainly save you some money.

If claymore  were to reduce fee to 1%  in the 9.3 edtion

a cheap dollar oriented miner  would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh.

So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction.    More fee reduction must be done by claymore.

2.5 to 2.0 is a start  maybe  in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl

My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc
But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 %  paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone.
and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1%  paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc
would really be dumb.

Here is a redacted pm






you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ?

my rigs are not 6 card   which would be 72 cards

my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each   so I do about 185h a card
i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought

I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining.  This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go.



so most of mine are four card .

5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards






 I have some 3 card  and a 1 card
27340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 26, 2016, 09:29:53 PM
here is a pm I got  on Christmas Day no less:

I deleted some of it>


------------------------------

DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners.
Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.

Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR

Miners supported and tested :

- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP)
- Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC)
- EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC)
- Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR)
- Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR)
- Kachur XMR miner (XMR)

Price : 0.05 btc



This offer is happening for 2 reasons

 the fee is 2.5 with no ssl
 the fee is 2.0 with ssl

Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec.

I earn .6-.7 zec a day.
My mining  gets cut back a lot for the summer  so I have 5 months max
at  150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins

2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl.

    so   i would  be paying  .05 btc to save 2 zec coins   that is about 0.096 btc


So math wise  if you have around 8kh   and you are a tight with money  paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do.  not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense.

If you are at 16kh  it would certainly save you some money.

If claymore  were to reduce fee to 1%  in the 9.3 edtion

a cheap dollar oriented miner  would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh.

So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction.    More fee reduction must be done by claymore.

2.5 to 2.0 is a start  maybe  in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl

My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc
But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 %  paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone.
and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1%  paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc
would really be dumb.

Here is a redacted pm






you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ?

my rigs are not 6 card   which would be 72 cards

my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each   so I do about 185h a card
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