Yeah what an asshat. Go ahead and post his/her info. I'm sure some people on here with some "technical support" would be happy to pay him/her a cyber visit (if not a real visit). That and just believe in karma.
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To be honest, I don't really want the ASIC's to arrive. When they do, gpu miners are gonna lose out big time. And people who can't afford an ASIC aren't gonna have enough hash rate to compete ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Yes the GPU days will be over, but it doesn't exclude the little guy. In fact it's a lot easier to grab a $150 Jalapeno (assuming it comes to fruition) and just plug it into a USB port than it is to try to setup CGMiner with all the correct flags and worry about temps (I'm talking for a layman). For those who have $ and are into running GPU farms there's always the possibility of custom modding he ASIC units in the future. Don't tell me people are "mining" with their 5450 GPU which costs $50 and don't have $150 for a jalapeno (or whatever low end device any manufacturer may put out).
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Ask Jeff how much BTC he mined so far with his fake machine
If it is fake, why bother? Id rather know how I can get paid to help promote a pre-order scam. speak with Inaba about a BFL signature add ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) YEAH MAN TALK TO INABA AKA BFL_JOSH ABOUT PROMOTING PRE-ORDER SCAMS HIS GOT A BLACK BELT IN IT HE JUST GOT THE NEW EMC HOSTING SCAM GOING SO U MIGHT GET DUBLE PAY FROM BFL AND INABA ALSO The CAPS LOCK key is below the Tab key and above the Shift key on the left side of the keyboard. Please press it once.
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Yifu desperately needs to offload CS duties to someone. Causing your customer base this much stress is bad mojo, or will be if/when they ever have any competition.
Yes he should but no, people are causing their own stress. People choice how they are going to deal with things. I have chosen to relax and see how this plays out. This is causing the stress: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8pwBV1T.png&t=663&c=7oiwriEp3x3iSw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVY1XcfQ.png&t=663&c=Q9ZpVNFQAELBEQ) V1, Rotate!
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when do you think they will start shipping?
i said since 2012 nove december no ssooner then march and i was dam right ... Except that ... in the beginning of October you said ASIC would be here in 30 days and there are currently no posts by you made in November or December or January or February ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116876.msg1256540#msg1256540There are thousands and thousands of morons mining now with CPU's still
Proof? Link? Please don't make up crap just because you think it to be true. lol its ok cpu and gpu will be wiped out in 30 days so no more couse fro disgremment:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFPOcp37JDUNevermind him, he's angry he couldn't sell his tooth.
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I read that as ckolivas believing that eleuthria's hope of an attempt to return the mistake as being laughably unlikely, without any specific statement of whether he would keep or return himself...
2nd this. Quit making wild assumptions. Wild assumptions just like the one Marrs and you made or the one I made? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... Not taking sides here. Just noting that once eleuthria got a similarly insane transaction fee and he did in fact refund the fee to the sender. If you want to read animosity into what was said it wouldn't be hard though given the CGMiner/BFGMiner split.
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Ask Jeff how much BTC he mined so far with his fake machine
If it is fake, why bother? Id rather know how I can get paid to help promote a pre-order scam. I can not access that link, what happened? Dead link. Apparently the newbie posting requirements aren't strict enough. Do yourself a favor and read up on the Bitcoin developers and founders before you go spotting your mouth off ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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it seems bfl could need a month or more if all goes well, why do they keep guessing wrong on their time table?
To piss me off.
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I have "free" electricity too but let's see how silly this sounds. Let's say you can house 400 5970s/7970s where you're at. That's 400x700=280GH/s. That's about 4 ASIC units. At a modest 500TH network, you'll be making less than $100/day. You want to babysit 400 cards and burn in a noisy, hot hell (100k+ KWH) for 2-4BTC/day? Just figuring the cards each lose $1/day in value you would need BTC to go up to $100-$200/USD just to not lose money. You're welcome to buy all my rigs when I part them out next month ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Why do you say there's no need to increase block size? I don't recall seeing any such discussion in #bitcoin-dev ... the plan has been to see what miners do when this limit is reached, which has now happened. As I said on this post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149668.0if nothing is done then transaction fees will steadily increase until small payments with Bitcoin no longer make sense and it's no longer cheaper than PayPal. Which will throttle growth and just generally make Bitcoin less attractive to everyone, ultimately reducing usage and revenues for everyone. The fees can always be scaled back (ie from 0.005 to 0.0005).
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My games don't run very well on a jalapeno or lightning thing.
But your games run fine on a x6500s? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Have you played HIDE THE JALAPENO? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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is the sound of a thousand GPUs being turned back on.
Sorry I couldn't hear anything over the sound of 147 fans at 100% throttle. Why the hell is it so damn hot in here!?!
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The speed of the processor is not as important as the number of PCIe lanes the CPU supports.
PCIe uses pathways between the CPU, RAM and disk called "lanes."
Each lane has an inbox and an outbox. The in and out boxes can communicate with the rest of the components on multiple in and out routes at the same time.
PCIe slots come in many speeds from 1x to 32x. The higher the number, the more in and out routes (lanes) that slot has.
For example, a PCIe 1x connector has one lane composed of four connections. a 32x PCIe has 32 lanes with a total of 128 connections.
To use an analogy, imagine you have a FedEx depot with 1x truck docking bays. Well, all the trucks are going to have to line up and load/unload one at a time. This would take days.
Now imagine you have a FedEx depot with 128 bays. You could load up every single truck at the same time and still have plenty of bays available.
The more connections a PCIe slot has the faster it can communicate. However, assigning more lanes to one PCIe slot takes them away from other slots, and there's a limit to how many lanes any CPU can have based on its architecture.
8GB/sec of bandwidth, either in the form of PCIe 2 x16 or PCIe 3 x8, is necessary to operate a Radeon 7970 at full load, so for 2 of them you need 16GB/sec bandwidth.
A Sandy Bridge CPU has 2x8 lanes (8GB/sec) whereas an Ivy Bridge CPU has 2x16 lanes (16GB/sec).
Or in other words, if you want to run two Radeon 7970's to maximum potential at load you need 2 x16 PCIe slots (PCIe version 2) or 2 x8 slots (PCIe version 3) and an Ivy Bridge CPU.
Core i5-3570 CPU's are Ivy Bridge. Core i5-2500 CPU's are Sandy bridge.
Core i7-3770K CPU's are Ivy Bridge. Core i7-2600K CPU's are Sandy Bridge.
Ivy Bridge processors are vastly more expensive than Sandy Bridge CPU's because they are newer and because managing all those lanes of traffic requires a lot more L2 (on dye) and L3 (off dye) cache. This type of RAM that is built directly onto the chip is extremely difficult and expensive to produce, resulting in lots of bad parts that have to be thrown out and re-fabricated at high cost.
It should also be noted that if you are running your GPU's in Crossfire/SLI configuration, 8 lanes are devoted to interdevice communication.
However mining software (Diablominer) addresses each GPU separately, dispatching work to them in chunks called jobs.
So you should switch Crossfire/SLI off before you begin mining.
You typed a wall of text that is full of FAIL. How many GPUs do you have mining? I have over 40 7970s and I'm getting almost 700MH/s on each running off of 1x extenders and controlled by a lowly Celeron G530. I think you're confusing the bandwidth needed for applications like GAMING. We happen to be on a forum about BITCOIN MINING which uses trivial amounts of bandwidth on the bus. Death and Taxes has posted all the math before in his threads and had one of the nicest racks ever seen (haha I'm so childish). GPU mining is nearing the end but no need to spread incorrect information (WRT mining at least).
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Why somebody will mine if the cost of electricity is bigger than profit from mining?
Shush, you're making the newbies think.
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eleuthria, check this out: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/956m4I've been watching the PPLNS rate for the last 100 shares and decided to do an experiment. I told you I could control a pool's luck! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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