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2741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 12, 2016, 03:15:11 PM
It is difficult to stay away from gambling for a person who has been for years in this. The earlier you realize the better it is to stay away. This addiction brings includes many things like recover and win more. Gambling's addiction is same as drug where person lost ability of thinking and don't want to accept or understand others point of view.

I have a friend that been gambling for decades already and when he decided to stop last almost 2 years ago, he did without much struggle in his part. Well, he transferred to Asia and happily married with a beautiful Asian now. I guess as long as you have that powerful will to stop you can and also when you have found more precious than gambling in your life then you are renewed Smiley

Well some people are not fortunate like him and does have a hard time struggling from their addiction, because not all gambler are like him that has a strong willed mind that can stop however he feels like it and I think that not all gambler can be addicted and not all was fortunate enough and ended up addicted to it!
For people who cannot control themselves in gambling then that is a serious problem with them and they should stay away in gambling, but if that person is already addicted, so he needs some help from the family member that would advise him on what to do or take him to the professionals.
2742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 12, 2016, 03:08:00 PM

Not all the time, there are gamblers that are not after those excitement and thrilling life ,  sometimes they are after the profit...


Yup! I would agree with these, not all gambler mind set are the same and not all have the same goal when they are betting gambling, all of them have a different kind of way of thinking that is why some of them ending up addicted with gambling and some that can control the urge in getting addicted will still be the same that is why you can never say that all of them are like these and like that!

And I would like to add also that gambling is only for people with great control in gambling and who are matured enough to determine what is the right thing to do in gambling, one should not be easily tempted to follow his emotions and will resort to wrong decision making like chasing bets until he lose.
2743  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 12, 2016, 08:29:59 AM
Anyone help me please?
I'm newbie...!

You ain't newbie anymore lol. If you have skills you can offer your service or if you have anything you want to sell try here.

He would probably not be a newbie anymore because this post is quite old now and activity count changes after every 14 days, so he must have been promoted to next level of account rank now.
Exactly, also with so many positive comments here, he might be making money already working online if he take the comments into action. Newbie should know this thread as it can help them a lot in their journey in the bitcoin world.
2744  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: August 12, 2016, 08:24:58 AM
No, dollar is too superior and too strong to beat, dollar has become an international currency and has been standing before the bitcoin born, if bitcoin replace dollar it will ruin the global transaction and cause chaos everywhere, and another reason is dollar is USA fiat, its impossible to change a country fiat

If the US somehow leaves the club of world superpowers, the dollar won't last long thereafter. But the throne is never empty, and the Chinese yuan seems to be the first candidate to fill the void. Yeah, I know this doesn't sound very convincing...

But remember how fast the Soviet Union collapsed
For now maybe dollar are more superior but there are always countries that are getting stronger, and one of the countries is china. They have improved there economy and important aspect of like the military which is the most important if you want to compete with other big countries.
2745  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 12, 2016, 08:09:18 AM
I would pick bitcoin as it is really good either in short or long term investment. I can earn easily just spending my free time daily unlike gold I don't know how can I get it for free. BTC has a faster and reliable transaction and I can make profits in the future.
It is fast in transaction but it does not guarantee that we can make profit in the future, all we have is just a speculation and it could happen or not, it's like gambling and that has risk on it so we need to take the risk and not so comfortable with it to limit our investment to the amount that we can afford to lose.
2746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 12, 2016, 07:48:47 AM
hi mate. to stay away from gambling means being aware that you're into gambling. and you realized that. and it's a good start. just put the realization into action. thus, first one needs to realize what he/she wants... a check for you. then "act" what you realize. lastly, repeat the first step.

Good perspective being aware means you know the limitations but the real problem to this is that most of the gamblers cant control their emotions when they are in the act but when they can still manage to get thru with it then its good but there would always a time that they can't.
Yup, that's true, emotions are really one of our best enemy when it comes in gambling, so if you don't know how to control your emotions well you can definitely lose money. But if you know your limitations enough, you can lessen your loses with this.
You only use your emotion if you are just playing for fun but if you are seriously playing for money. You do not use your heart because it will only give you a wrong decision, you move and decision should be properly calculated and should always be depend on your game plan.
I think your heart is also connected in your brain/mind, because in science all parts of our body is connected, I mean if you want to eat, your heart and mind will tell you to eat so that you will going to eat, right? Just like when you want to gamble, your mind will tell you that you want to gamble and of course you will do it. If you have learned that in science then I guess you can understand what I am talking about. Once you make a decision it is your choice and no one tells you that. So for me, make sure that all what you are doing is balance.
I know but in reality our heart deceive us especially in gambling, if we are not good in using our brains our hearts will always win and in gambling we need to use our head over our heart to be successful. Your emotions are the main reason why we lose in gambling.
2747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 12, 2016, 07:37:44 AM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??

I 've got 10 bitcoin from gambling , but bitcoin was discharged for trading altcoin hahahah
I hope you made money in trading, you make the right decision not to spend your bitcoins in buying other stuffs and instead you invested it in altcoins. You are lucky you have won that amount, my suggestion is just to do the right move in trading altcoins to grow your money.
2748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 12, 2016, 07:28:16 AM
The safest way to gamble is to withdraw after you won so good amount (don't be greedy) and not try to recover if you lost, just accept it and move on.

If youre lucky enough and if you have self control then you can control you losses but  remember you dont win anytime on the other day. I dont believe there are safe  methods to gambling on preventing such losses because its only a matter of luck. If you dont want to loss money then the safest way is  not to play gambling at all.
Luck is not the safest way in gambling because luck just come and go, you are lucky when you win but you cannot do it consistently which gives us a more losing game than the winning game in gambling. We need to have a method that has not been discovered yet by the others in order to win.
2749  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: August 11, 2016, 07:43:11 AM
That is why we never know when the price will reach to that extent again, we can just predict or hope from the predictions of others but predictions don't turn real all the time, so we still cannot if what will happen to the price of bitcoin in coming year.
But after a sharp drop in the price of bitcoin, now there is good steady growth. Let it not as rapid, but nevertheless I think we will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the year.

I do believe that the price of bitcoin is on the steady way of growing today, we just need to believe that it is going happen for next year. The price stability of bitcoin is going to happen for this year and the other things about bitcoin is going to happen for next year. That is why bitcoins year is every year.
I believe true bitcoin prices in 2017 will grow. And the adoption of bitcoin will be more and more so that many people using bitcoin. 2017 will be better than this year in my opinion.
This year is the turning point of bitcoin because halving happen this year and the price increase abruptly this year alone. In 2017, it will just a continues progress that happened in 2016, so let us hope for a better market before the end of the year.
2750  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 10, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
I am saving part of my salary by buying bitcoins monthly, whenever I get my salary I put some money in bitcoin irrespective of the price, as price will reach to new level in future.

i have been doing this as well, but i stopped as soon as the price reached the $400 price level. mainly because i am more than happy with the amount of coins that i have been accumulating. it's enough for me.
Wow! that is good to hear, maybe the bitcoins you are holding now can be considered as your retirement in the future. The current price now is just too cheap and it is expected to have a good increase in the near future and will continue as soon as the demand will increase continuously.
2751  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 10, 2016, 12:08:21 PM
I think it is better to save 25 % of money in any means bitcoin\Gold\Bank and invest the rest 75% in something that really you know about in real life .
Thank you
I think that is too much for an investment, remember that basic rule in investing that we should only invest what we can afford to lose and that should be lower than our savings for future emergencies, leisure, and others combined. Investing in bitcoin is promising but still very risky so we should not go all in.
2752  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you still believe in bitcoin on: August 10, 2016, 12:04:52 PM
There have been a lot of scam investments. What else would I believe in if not bitcoin. Bitcoin is promising an easy and fast invesment and I will that for now until all of this ends.
That is correct even i had many bad experience in bitcoin i still believing that bitcoin is giving us good profit in all our investment and it will not leave as zero. All users needs to recruit some people who wants to have an extra income in their spare time because anytime bitcoin is available to gives us income.
Okay, that's is a good mission to advertising bitcoin too, but maybe will get some difficult to introduce for the people is a lack of knowledge about technology. but that is possible for them with lure can get extra income and they will learn about technology

We cannot expect that illiterate and poor people to use bitcoins, that is simply impossible as there are many people who feel anything related to internet is a fraud and scam and will prefer to stay away from it.

i don't think so. poor people are eagerly waiting for something that they can use to store money and do payments at very low cost. especially when you consider that a lot people in third world countries can't sign up for a bank account. bitcoin is the perfect solution for them. if you explain these people face to face the basic details, then i am sure they will give it a chance.
Maybe the poor people he means are those who are in poverty, they are surely illiterate and they do not know how to make money online, they are just reliant with there hard work and receive a little amount of wages, this type of people has no chance to use bitcoin.
2753  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: August 10, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Honestly almost all saying that bitcoin willl be dead is member of other crypto or they are holding an altcoin..
So i think they are just hijacking people to use altcoin instead of using bitcoin.. it a market strategy..
This is not a strategy, but a real deception. I understand that every customer lure in any way, but this method must be at least decent.
nope I think the main reason for someone use altcoin at this time is because they do altcoin trade. although they use altcoin. but will they
conversion is to bitcoin? so even though they hold altcoin their purpose remains one. that is bitcoin



That's true and altcoin trading allows them to make quick profits but once they are done with trading they will definitely convert it to bitcoin as bitcoin is too big in compare to other coins.
For some trading in altcoins is so profitable because of the dump and pump game, it is easy to spot which coins or token that would have a good pump and dump game and if you can already know the trend you can easily make profit from it.
2754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 10, 2016, 11:58:01 AM
Any sites you recommend?
Strategy?

Hmmh, It depends on how lucky are you, if you are very lucky or good gambler, you can win lots of money, But if you won't have needed luck you can lose a lot

and i don't really think that there re such a thing as strategy, as all gambling is luck based so you can't have needed strategy

I feel there are no good gamblers in the world as being good or skilled wont work in gambling as it just depends on your luck if you win or lose so whether you use any strategy or not if you have luck you will luck and if you dont you simply wont.

Of course it depends on what game you are playing. If you are playing poker, you can use some skills to overcome a bad hand. A good poker face and a timed bluff can overcome a good hand played by a weak player. But if you are playing slots or dice, you just have to rely on your luck to win a jackpot. 

That is quite correct, but I see all of the games certainly requires skill and strategy in order to gain an advantage. It is true the slot game and rely on the luck of the dice, but if we just do a game arbitrarily definitely luck is just a crap!! . Slots and dice also need strategy and skil. Strategies in looking at just the right time to play and skill in analyzing the game!!

Skills and strategy is not enough to have good amount of earnings with gambling. You must believe also in luck because even you don't have that but you are very lucky person you are going to earn good amount of bitcoin/money in it. That is why there is no stable earnings with gambling, because you are going to win today and going to lose tomorrow.
We all believe in luck and we don't need to rely on that, having the skills and a good strategy would already give us a good chance of winning. Never think of your luck in gambling and instead just play base on your plan to win.

No strategy or skills will help you in gambling, its only luck that will allow you to win, if you are lucky then you w ill win or simply you will be on loosing end, so simple.

You are wrong, gambling is something most in need of a strategy in every game that we did. You may not have been aware of this, but if you are already aware of your words, this surely will be different. All the people who get a victory in gambling is someone using bitcoin
It depends on the game because there are games that regardless how good your strategy you will still lose in the long run. The games that I am talking are games like dice which has a house advantage, the only game we can win are those skilled base games where strategy can really be applied.
2755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: August 10, 2016, 11:52:55 AM
yes, becouse  it's so easy and faster

Easier faster and better. Better all round. Also cheaper or no fees and no records of your activity either. Way more private and safe.
thats true, bitcoin is really great for gambling, i think it also allows bitcoin to become bigger and bigger over time, in my opinion bitcoin will be huge

yup i agree on you both Cheesy . using bitcoin it is pretty easy and fast the transaction of it Cheesy

That is why bitcoin is really seeing the potential about everything like online gambling because they can have fast transactions.

It is one of the good service about bitcoin and as well as the fees they are very cheap.
People would always prefer a faster transaction because we are living in a fast pace world, also with the faster transaction, it can easily grow the market and increase the circulation of bitcoin.


I think most of the people are buying bitcoins for gambling as its very easy to gamble with bitcoin without disclosing the identity, so even if gambling is illegal in your country you can easily gamble with bitcoins.

true, indeed all those who conduct gambling using bitcoin for want of their identities not known by everyone. And they could be free to do whatever they want in the gambling unbeknownst to everyone. It is indeed advantageous however it is also detrimental for them because it will surely lose control and eliminate all funds which have
Well, that's the norms of gambling, this is a very risky game that is why we love it. We love challenges and obviously gambling passes our taste of challenge and that would be depend on us on how we manage our self in gambling and play to get the best entertainment we can.
2756  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: August 10, 2016, 11:49:42 AM
Bitcoin is not worth more than normal currency to me, but it certainly worth a value to me. You rightly said that the normal fiat currency doesn't have the potential to go up like bitcoin, but fiat is the only currency we use in our daily lives. I receive my salary in fiat. So no other currency can replace fiat from my life.

On the other hand I think bitcoin is surely worth my time and energy which I use every day to earn bitcoin. I treat bitcoin as an alternate investment and not as a currency.
I can agree with your words about the fact that bitcoin is very good for investment, but the real currency, namely that we use every day, not replace anything. Mainly bitcoin, it is the currency of a network, so that will be a leader of the digital currency.

At this stage of the bitcoin development, the bitcoin is still too volatile. It is not a good choice to be used as a currency.
That is true, but if you are using this for gambling alone then that would be fine, as gambler we really doesn't care of the price volatility as long as we can gamble in a convenient way, and I agree that this is good to use as investment rather than a currency but we are promoting this also to be use as currency for the newbie so we can benefit from their contribution to the market.
2757  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: August 10, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
i think no people can manipulate bitcoin rate because all sites have the exchange rate, also use different currencies. the decentralization make no people can force to sell or buying bitcoin.
A group of people can make the price manipulation, but with this current market which has grown a lot it would be difficult for them to have the same interest in price manipulation. We are more stronger now and the demand of the majority will prevail and the price will increase accordingly.
2758  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 10, 2016, 10:12:13 AM
I will pick bitcoins anyday for the the obvious reasons.  Roll Eyes

If you are having  huge amount t of money then Gold is the best choice, it's suitable for big amounts of money as there is less volatility and is more of saving than investing since you will most likely not make profit. Bitcoin is a good short term investment and for middle class people make good profit form that.

I think people have more faith in gold as its in existence since long time and people have always made good profits from it, but they don't have same level of trust in bitcoins.

I also would like to vote for gold.  Like what you have said it exist long time ago.  They used gold to buy things or to exchange for some commodities.  Besides, people are not familiar with bitcoins so I guess gold is more stable thing.  Maybe one day bitcoins will be the new gold, if many people will be aware of its existence and its capacity.
No question that gold is the better one, however for someone who likes to earn more profit with a little capital, they would prefer bitcoins because it is easy to use in trading and you can take advantage of the price fluctuation to earn consistently.
2759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 10, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
I predict that Houston Rockets will be top 7 in the new season, reason: Thurders lost Kevin Durant, they will hardly go into play-offs. Last season, they was 3rd in western, this season will be out of top 8.
If Houston is not going to get their acts together, they could just be headed for another mediocre season. Will Dwight Howard's departure make them a contender again? We will see this upcoming season. I disagree with you the the OKC Thunder aren't going to the post season this year. Westbrook's got something to prove and he has a great supporting cast that can ably push them towards even the number 6 (or higher) spot in the West. Steven Adams, Victor Oladipo, and Al Horford are stars in their own right and they would really look to make an even bigger name for themselves.
Houston is a better now compared to the past, dwight howard is not really a good fit to the rockets base on his average statistics. I believe they are more motivated now as they have an early exit last playoffs, I just hope harden will be more improve this coming season.
2760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 10, 2016, 10:03:48 AM

Smart yes.. but sometimes gamblers don't use their mind but in luck has them and they don't use their head but hope to win in a gambling luck has it every time you lose theirs a lesson but if  you win that's luck for you
not sometimes , but everytimes they gamble they never use their minds to make a decision , they gamble even like didn't have brain if got a lost bet and repeat a same thing many times. so i guess there's no smart gambler or even smart way in gambling.


Not all, and not all lost their mind each time they are betting... Actually, gamblers are smart, they have a lot of wild things in their mind about winning, game plans, and strategies, so I think they are smart, only that the future of their bets are not theirs to decide and it is not in their control anymore...

Gamblers are having a problem not on betting but on where to decide when is enough, and those who know what should be done after, I think should be called "wise"..  Smiley
You got it right man, the only problem of most of the gamblers is there low capacity to follow there strategy in gambling, when we are winning we cannot just stop base on our game plan because we become greedy and we are like on drugs that do not know what we are doing anymore and we love to push our luck so hard until we lose in the end.
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