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2741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 27, 2017, 05:55:10 AM
Ask yourself this..  Would you be more pissed if you lost your own money.. or someone else lost it for you..

Once you can answer that.. You will know what choice to make.
I think it is depending on how we think on investing; investing is not like "they will lose your money". For me, our income in investing is depending on our strategy because we all know that when it comes in investing we need to have enough knowledge to earn money. We must when to buy and sell a stock.
2742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 27, 2017, 05:47:49 AM
There is nothing wrong with gambling because it is fun and entertaining. No one knows when gambling can be beneficial or huge lost because it is all due to luck and skills probably the ratio is 90% luck and 10% skill. There is only one thing that is bad when it comes to gambling and that is the word Greed. With you being greedy it will just lead to bigger lose. So when you do gambling just think of it as a source of enjoyment  not gaining profit.

So true. Just play on it just for fun and enjoy while it last. Don't bother to think of it as a means to earn. Go find a suitable and stable job for you. Because if you think that gambling can be a good source of income for you and your family, you are dead wrong. Play for fun and not for profit and for sure everything will be fine with you.

I could not agree more to you. Treating gambling as a source of income for your family is really a BIG BIG wrong idea. You will surely be frustrated and stresses will eat you alive. The most thing that will happen is that you only not earn any money for your family but you are also selling all of your properties and belongings - what then can you say to your kids?
That's just common sense. Why would you even use that as a source of income when the risk of having a large winning amount there is low. It's better to use the money that you are going to bet to a better place because, in gambling, that's just going to eat it up if you fail to deliver in your games, you should be thinking of the possibility of winning the amount. Just be satisfied with what you have and find alternatives.

That is true. and even if it is just common sense, the sad truth is that, there are still people that fall prey in gambling more than they can afford to lose and therefore affecting their family relationship and even lost all of their hard earned properties
yes for such people gambling is not a good activity and they should try to avoid gambling and make themselves busy in other constructive activities, but still there are such kind of people who are still playing gambling in a good way they play gambling up to a limit and never try to exceed that limit and therefore playing gambling is a good activity for them and they can continue gambling for a long long time without harming his life and his family life.
It is also depend on a person on how they can handle their greed. Maybe some people lose a lot of money because they didn't control their greed and they just let their mind control them which is not good. Addicted person in gambling needs to finds some other productive activity so that they will stop playing gambling and continue to do that other productive activity but that activity needs to be not affecting your budget or personal income for your family.
2743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? on: June 27, 2017, 03:13:37 AM
I don't think government will banned the internet, they also uses it, internet is so powerful and also social media, even the reporters uses internet for us to know a lot and have a knowledge happening in our country so I don't think they will banned the internet.


Exactly. His prediction or theory is totally nonsense. People now lives with the internet. It can treated as a basic needs of a person. Internet shutdown will just lead to a huge crisis all over the world.
That's true, even at the company offices they also needs internet to communicate to their clients, so that they can work easy and fast what if there is no internet? This will be a crisis to all of offices workers and also to those who only works online. So I don't think governments will shut down the internet. It is really non sense.
2744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Governments Shutdown the Internet? on: June 27, 2017, 12:49:34 AM
I don't think government will banned the internet, they also uses it, internet is so powerful and also social media, even the reporters uses internet for us to know a lot and have a knowledge happening in our country so I don't think they will banned the internet.
2745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 27, 2017, 12:21:25 AM
i think invest is better than gambling , if you want to take big profit invest is the best way .
That's true, because in investing we can earn millions but of course we need to be patient, so that we can earn more profits in a long run.
yes there is no doubt that long term investment can be more profitable as compare to short term investment, but in long term investment you need to be too much patient and not to lose heart.
If we have enough knowledge to do investing in a long run there will be no problem at all, it is also our way to become more responsible because if we know that we can earn money we will start dreaming of having a good future for our family.
2746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: June 27, 2017, 12:08:48 AM
I don't really believe in superstition belief. For me it is just base on luck when it comes in gambling, most of the time when you don't have luck you lose. I don't believe in superstitious. Huh
2747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin sucks! on: June 26, 2017, 11:09:51 PM
Our experiment with BTC is over. We accepted BTC in 2 of our on-line stores and after losing hundreds and possibly thousands of dollars we are removing BTC acceptance. Stores were selling card access products and chip cards.
Simply by the time somebody buys something and gets confirmed and we manage to exchange BTC at Canadian Kraken we are at loss. So goodbye Bitcoin, going back to PayPal and credit cards only.
Well I think bitcoin is not good for online payments. Maybe because of its unstable value, but it's not clear on how could you loss hundreds? I think you must know first how to manage bitcoin and we always need to check the value of bitcoin
2748  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your favourite country? on: June 26, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
Do you have a favourite country and if so why? Is it the country you're living in or another one?

I don't really have a favourite country myself, I guess I have some issues with just about any country, but there are also a few that I like more than others
I personally don't also have favorite country, but I also want to try to travel the world but that is too expensive if I do so, but I will still love to live from my country.
2749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: June 26, 2017, 09:02:22 AM
Hi,

I don't know what to do  Cry

How you think bitcoin will go up or down in near 2-3 weeks?

It is very important for me...

What you will do with your btc also?

Thanks.

If you want to sell your bitcoin I suggest to sell as necessary just do not overdo it, because until now the bitcoin price is not how high it should be done now is the supply and supply supply until many
I suggest to wait for $ 3000 before selling the bitcoin you have. Well, seeing the current bitcoin price increase, I think the $ 3000 price will be in the near future, so maybe for now, hold it better than sell it.
I think we better sell now partly.
Because bitcoin prices are very difficult for us to predict.
Do not expect more if we can enjoy some.
Yeah we can sell it now, it is really hard to predict. We can hold some of our bitcoins but also convert some of it into fiat for your assurance.
2750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 26, 2017, 08:59:25 AM
i think invest is better than gambling , if you want to take big profit invest is the best way .
That's true, because in investing we can earn millions but of course we need to be patient, so that we can earn more profits in a long run.
2751  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 26, 2017, 08:55:42 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
If you don't want to trade, gamble or to loan, you must need to find a stable job so you can also have a  stable income.  Grin
2752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: June 26, 2017, 08:27:22 AM
We will not feel shameful if we are responsible enough to do our duties to our family, because we want to earn money because of our family so I think before you gamble think of your budget first if you think it is enough to all their needs if some of your income use in gambling.

I totally agree with you, the shame just comes with irresponsible behavior because there are a lot of gamblers who leave their basic responsibilities in order to pursue gambling and that attracts the negative tags around gambling so they are likely to feel ashamed but responsible people are never ashamed of gambling.

When we talk of being a responsible gambler has nothing to be ashamed with, because there is nothing affected of your time and you know how to manage your responsibilities. Those people who did wrong sources of gambling money to be use to invest for betting like cheating money to be borrowed from people around who were close to you. That's the bad actions of doing it and exactly that you will be ashamed with.
It is really depend on every gamblers situation but as long as we know our obligations to our family and we can still handle our self by not getting addicted into gambling we will not be ashamed of what we are doing because I think we are responsible enough to handle a situation.
2753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: June 26, 2017, 08:21:59 AM
We can all learn through our experiences not just by gambling but also to some other things. But when it comes to gambling, we can learn from it, like we also need to give limit to ourselves, or we need to handle our greed. We can also learn from our mistakes, like when we already losing money. It is good to have a limitations from how much do we need to spend money from playing gambling and many more. It is also depend on us on how we can learn from it.
2754  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: June 26, 2017, 07:30:09 AM
For me it is still more risky in skilled based gambling because even if you need skills here it will still have a luck, example for cards, if you don't have a good card you cannot win in the game. unlike trading, we need to be more patient and much more time to earn money because it is always depend on a market if its going down or up.
Gambling in general is more risky than trading, there are sites who can manipulate the outcome and do shady things, while in trading
you know what you are doing and the market is real, you can predict well you make money, that's how it goes.
I'll choose trading overtime although I love to improve my skills in gambling but I need to choose which would I spend my time more.
Gambling and trading both requires good knowledge base to make good earning. With gambling it's like do or die. You choose an odd and if this goes wrong your wallet balance decreases. With trading based on the situation if we make changes we can decrease the loss. So both are beneficial in one way and has some negatives. It's up to us to select the right thing a d make the best.
Yeah but when comparing the two, for me it is still more risky in gambling even if the two requires both knowledge, because in gambling in a short time we can lose money, unlike in trading, you need to be patient for you to earn a lot of money.
yes even in some format of gambling we require to have good experience and skill, we must also have good gambling knowledge to secure our position in gambling. while in trading if we do not have good experience and skill with good knowledge then trading is more risky that gambling. so in both cases we need to have good experience and knowledge about trading and gambling.
Yes you are right but there is no right format of skills in Gambling, unlike in trading, we can have a seminars and we can learn a lot of things for us to grow and also for us to earn money in a long run.
2755  Other / Off-topic / Re: What to do with my bitcoins ? on: June 26, 2017, 07:24:13 AM
Hello everyone,
             I would like that each one participates in sharing the different sites shopping online (International) that accept the bitcoin, as well as different ways to spend BTC, thank you.
You can search online shop that is already accepting bitcoin and I know a lot of online stores now are accepting it, but it is safer if you wilk check first that online shop before purchasing.
2756  Other / Off-topic / Re: if you could live anywhere on: June 26, 2017, 07:21:56 AM
I love you travel around the world to see  the beauty of the World created by God. But I would still rather choose to live in my country. I'll just want to travel so I can have some adventures with my family.
2757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin savings account? on: June 26, 2017, 07:18:39 AM
You can save your bitcoin to your btc wallet. Just don't withdraw it and I think its just fine. You can save bitcoin while you are also earning.
2758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 26, 2017, 04:57:04 AM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?
The number one reason is because of greediness. Of course as a gambler, you don't want to end the game when you lose. You always aim to quit gambling once you have won. However, if you didn't meet your expectation, addiiction could trigger which is not good as a player.
I agree, because once you start to play gambling and at the beginning you already aim for the prize but you lose the game, you will have a trigger to play again because you really want to win, sometimes that will be the start of losing money because we have no assurance in winning in gambling.
2759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We can't buy something with Bitcoin quickly on: June 26, 2017, 04:48:36 AM
For exemple, I go to a coffee shop, I buy a coffee, then I pay with Bitcoin, we have to wait for a confirmation, no? or the merchant will just trust me if I show my wallet?
How can we be sure that it's not a double spent transaction or something else?
Maybe you can show your wallet that you already sent your payment with their store but the confirmation is still ongoing maybe they can accept it because it is already sent to them but still been waiting for the confirmation. Or if you really want to get your coffee immediately, you can sent them your payment the day before you go to their store so can get your coffe immediately.  Grin
2760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: June 26, 2017, 01:53:27 AM
I think they can try to bet so that they will also learn about gambling and they will also know the risk here. But for newbies I think it is better to use small amounts first because they are just trying. Don't use all their money immediately because they don't know the game yet.
Betting is good newbie if they want to have fun, gambling is for everyone so there is no hindrance even if you are a newbie.
It is your responsibility to manage yourself and you cannot blame it to gambling if you lose a big amount that you cannot afford.
We all started as newbie and we have our bad experiences but what is important is we learn from it so we can enjoy gambling more.
Being a newbie don't really limit us on playing what kind of gambling we do really like to play but the fact or thing only here is concern is how he gonna play smartly specially on sportsbetting but generally on my own opinion it doesn't matter as long he do enjoy his bet win or lose then I think its still okay.Just do put some limitations on playing up and don't spend the money you cant afford to lose.

If they can afford it then its fine to do gambling if not better put their money on trading or let their time spend on trading or investing than gambling.
Yeah better to put their money on trading but it is also good if they also try to gamble even once so that they can have an experience of how gambling really works or the feeling that they can felt when they lose/win.  Grin
It is also to have an experience in every part of activity just like when we do adventure trip, we like to do all what we want and we want to try all the activities in there.
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