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2761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:59:11 AM
Stamp/Finex ask side is almost complete empty. Tongue
1688BTC to 550$
I expect a nice green candle!
2762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:50:05 AM
A good bull-trap actually functions like a Ponzi, the first ones that get in will be rewarded when they leave at the right time.  Cheesy

Edit: 1h chart actually looks like a waterfall Smiley
2763  Economy / Speculation / Re: China BANNED BITCOIN! This time for real! on: March 28, 2014, 12:42:21 AM
GET OUT OF MY THREAD!
THIS IS A BANKER FRIENDLY - NON HODLER THREAD
2764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:35:11 AM
Could you all please provide an epic bulltrap to 520-550$?

Thanks

Yeah pretty oversold and strong support in 465-480 zone. I'd be surprised if we don't see a test of 518 level. My channel top is at 570 -- don't see that happening.

I΄m a bit scared if Huobi really should go into a Gox-like death spiral, that there will be only downs and no bounces and waves which make crash tradin real profitable.
Just like it looks on the Huobi 1h chart.  Cry
2765  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:32:08 AM
looks like the bottom is in at huobi
Wrong. Look at the volume. It has decreased significantly on this wave down from the last wave down. That is very bearish. It is no longer up to Huobi to find the bottom. It is up to Bitstamp. I predict that the final bottom will be on a day when Bitstamp has over 200,000BTC of volume.

TERA did you short this crash?
I am already sold from $630 still and never bought back. I thought about shorting, but didn't Sad.  I'm still 20% BTC and 80% fiat, which up until now has been my the max bearish position I would allow.  Yesterday for the first time I considered actually going short so that I was -(20)% BTC but I pussied out and everything happened too fast with the news.

 Wink OK. Thanks, i΄m always interested in other peoples trading behavior.

Where and when do you expect the bottom? Roughly
2766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:30:26 AM
Could you all please provide an epic bulltrap to 520-550$?

Thanks
2767  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:26:23 AM
looks like the bottom is in at huobi
Wrong. Look at the volume. It has decreased significantly on this wave down from the last wave down. That is very bearish. It is no longer up to Huobi to find the bottom. It is up to Bitstamp. I predict that the final bottom will be on a day when Bitstamp has over 200,000BTC of volume.

TERA did you short this crash? I΄m just curious Wink
2768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:23:35 AM
In the meanwhile on Coindesk:

Will a $10,000 Bitcoin Help or Hurt Transactions?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
2769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2014, 12:21:01 AM
Can we please get a bull-trap?
I don΄t like these new kind of crashes!
I΄m more like an old-school crash guy. Cool
2770  Economy / Speculation / Re: China BANNED BITCOIN! This time for real! on: March 28, 2014, 12:14:04 AM
What does this mean? Chinese can't sell their btc anymore in China but for example on Bitstamp? How does this work with the fiat from the UK(Bitstamp) to China?

They send flying monkeys with cash to China as far as i am aware of it Cheesy
They only speak chinese btw!
2771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
guys stop freaking china news is completely fake.

Huobi (chart) says different!
It seems to be true this time(no trollin)
2772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:50:23 PM
Who will manipulate the market now that Gox and (most probably)China are out?
Adam?


Mark is re opening Gox tomorrow, so don't worry, his liabilities have significantly decreased over the last 24 hours so Gox isn't insolvent anymore. He's just been on IRC now telling everyone that he's given Willy a polish so he's firing on all cylinders after his time off from work.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
2773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:48:19 PM
Only 7.x million dollar left on Stamp.
2011 charts will look like a Disneyland Trip compared to what΄s comin. Cheesy
2774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:46:57 PM
Who will manipulate the market now that Gox and (most probably)China are out?
Adam?
2775  Economy / Speculation / Re: China BANNED BITCOIN! This time for real! on: March 27, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
Is this legit?  Did china just ban bitcoin?

They have 2 weeks left to get their money out. After that all bank accounts will be closed. No more trading!

Chinese coins might hit the Western market, if there is any bid depth left until then....
2776  Economy / Speculation / China BANNED BITCOIN! This time for real! on: March 27, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
IT΄S OFFICIAL CHINA BANNED BITCOIN!
IT WAS A NICE EXPERIMENT WHILE IT LASTED!
GOODBYE

Frozen bank accounts
http://epaper.yicai.com:81/site1/html/2014-03/28/content_206827.htm

央行禁止银行为
比特币交易提供服务

吴敏

  去年年底,央行曾接连出招防范比特币风险,而最新的消息显示,监管的车轮仍在向前。  

  知情人士告诉《第一财经日报》,近日,央行已经下发文件要求银行和第三方支付机构关闭多家境内比特币平台的交易账户。

  上述知情人士还透露,不久前,央行还曾召集过会议商讨如何进一步加强防范比特币的风险,会上曾提到过禁止商业银行为比特币交易提供服务。

  “如果文件真有其事,公司的银行账户可能就会被封掉,我们也只能走一步算一步了。如果用户信任我们,也许会采取个人账户汇款的方式。”比特币中国副总裁凌亢在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。

  不过,也有业内人士怀疑这样的政策是否真的具有可实施性。火币网联合创始人杜均对《第一财经日报》说:“维持现在的状态,银行的流水都是可以查到的,我们的账户也都是实名制的,如果监管机构要我们履行反洗钱义务,我们都是可以把数据、流水拉出看的。但如果把公司的银行账户关掉,那所有的交易不都转到地下了吗?这样监管的难度就更高了。而且现在距离最后期限已经只剩20天了,我们还没有收到消息,这样对用户会不会太不公平?”

  杜均的担忧不无道理,一些业内人士也表示这次文件的下发路径有些蹊跷,不少跟此类业务相关的机构和人士均表示未收到上述文件。

  “我们的网站目前运行正常,没有收到相关消息。”比特币交易网站OKCoin创始人徐明星在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。据OKCoin交易网站上人民币充值的提示,该网站目前有银行卡汇款和点卡充值两种方式。银行卡汇款既可以通过网银的“汇款”功能直接实现也可以去银行柜台办理汇款业务,共有13家大型银行在OKCoin可办理汇款的银行之列,收款人则是北京乐酷达网络科技有限公司,汇款经过人工确认后人民币将充值到个人账户。

  而OKCoin的点卡充值则是通过第三方支付向一个名为Coin265的游戏点卡充值平台充值购买点数,相应的点数则可在站内购买包括比特币在内的各类虚拟货币,点卡充值的好处则在于即时到账。目前OKCoin网站规定,银行卡汇款仅支持1000元以上汇款,1000元以下汇款则需要使用点卡充值。为其提供第三方支付业务的机构则包括汇潮支付有限公司等。

  去年年底,央行曾约谈十余家第三方支付公司相关负责人,明确要求其不得给比特币、莱特币(LTC)等交易网站提供支付与清算业务;并且规定对于已经发生业务的支付机构应解除合作,存量款最迟在春节前完成提现,不得发生新的支付业务。在此背景之下,不少比特币交易网站都开始寻求新的充值方式,用类似点卡充值的形式“搭桥”接入,既规避了第三方支付与比特币的直接接触,又能够实现快速充值。

  “实际上,这种连接比特币交易网站和充值页面的‘桥’就只做一件事情,就是卖点卡。并没有什么其他实际的业务。”某家比特币交易网站的负责人告诉《第一财经日报》,他所在的交易网站也采用了同样的方式,而不管通过第三方支付购买的是所谓的游戏点数还是游戏币,都是换汤不换药,最终的目的都是购买比特币或者其他虚拟货币。

  至于“封锁”银行汇款充值途径会否成为比特币交易的障碍,业内人士则表示,首先要看政策执行的力度,其次则要看比特币交易平台是否还能想出类似“搭桥”的应对招数。不过相关消息显然已经开始影响到了比特币的价格,截至昨晚9时记者发稿时,BTCC上的比特币价格已下跌近10%至每个3300元。
2777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:35:10 PM
IT΄S OFFICIAL CHINA BANNED BITCOIN!
IT WAS A NICE EXPERIMENT WHILE IT LASTED!
GOODBYE


央行禁止银行为
比特币交易提供服务

吴敏

  去年年底,央行曾接连出招防范比特币风险,而最新的消息显示,监管的车轮仍在向前。   

  知情人士告诉《第一财经日报》,近日,央行已经下发文件要求银行和第三方支付机构关闭多家境内比特币平台的交易账户。

  上述知情人士还透露,不久前,央行还曾召集过会议商讨如何进一步加强防范比特币的风险,会上曾提到过禁止商业银行为比特币交易提供服务。

  “如果文件真有其事,公司的银行账户可能就会被封掉,我们也只能走一步算一步了。如果用户信任我们,也许会采取个人账户汇款的方式。”比特币中国副总裁凌亢在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。

  不过,也有业内人士怀疑这样的政策是否真的具有可实施性。火币网联合创始人杜均对《第一财经日报》说:“维持现在的状态,银行的流水都是可以查到的,我们的账户也都是实名制的,如果监管机构要我们履行反洗钱义务,我们都是可以把数据、流水拉出看的。但如果把公司的银行账户关掉,那所有的交易不都转到地下了吗?这样监管的难度就更高了。而且现在距离最后期限已经只剩20天了,我们还没有收到消息,这样对用户会不会太不公平?”

  杜均的担忧不无道理,一些业内人士也表示这次文件的下发路径有些蹊跷,不少跟此类业务相关的机构和人士均表示未收到上述文件。

  “我们的网站目前运行正常,没有收到相关消息。”比特币交易网站OKCoin创始人徐明星在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。据OKCoin交易网站上人民币充值的提示,该网站目前有银行卡汇款和点卡充值两种方式。银行卡汇款既可以通过网银的“汇款”功能直接实现也可以去银行柜台办理汇款业务,共有13家大型银行在OKCoin可办理汇款的银行之列,收款人则是北京乐酷达网络科技有限公司,汇款经过人工确认后人民币将充值到个人账户。

  而OKCoin的点卡充值则是通过第三方支付向一个名为Coin265的游戏点卡充值平台充值购买点数,相应的点数则可在站内购买包括比特币在内的各类虚拟货币,点卡充值的好处则在于即时到账。目前OKCoin网站规定,银行卡汇款仅支持1000元以上汇款,1000元以下汇款则需要使用点卡充值。为其提供第三方支付业务的机构则包括汇潮支付有限公司等。

  去年年底,央行曾约谈十余家第三方支付公司相关负责人,明确要求其不得给比特币、莱特币(LTC)等交易网站提供支付与清算业务;并且规定对于已经发生业务的支付机构应解除合作,存量款最迟在春节前完成提现,不得发生新的支付业务。在此背景之下,不少比特币交易网站都开始寻求新的充值方式,用类似点卡充值的形式“搭桥”接入,既规避了第三方支付与比特币的直接接触,又能够实现快速充值。

  “实际上,这种连接比特币交易网站和充值页面的‘桥’就只做一件事情,就是卖点卡。并没有什么其他实际的业务。”某家比特币交易网站的负责人告诉《第一财经日报》,他所在的交易网站也采用了同样的方式,而不管通过第三方支付购买的是所谓的游戏点数还是游戏币,都是换汤不换药,最终的目的都是购买比特币或者其他虚拟货币。

  至于“封锁”银行汇款充值途径会否成为比特币交易的障碍,业内人士则表示,首先要看政策执行的力度,其次则要看比特币交易平台是否还能想出类似“搭桥”的应对招数。不过相关消息显然已经开始影响到了比特币的价格,截至昨晚9时记者发稿时,BTCC上的比特币价格已下跌近10%至每个3300元。
2778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:34:12 PM
7,591,689.13 USD left on Stamp
2779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 11:32:35 PM
200$ coins by sunday!
No need to hurry to buy in now!
2780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
URGENT:

Price is about to sky rocket for the next 5 days.
Bitcoin will not be banned again in China until Monday!
CHoooo Choooo
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