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2761  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: January 16, 2021, 03:29:50 AM
As announced on the telegram channel, reference as quoted below:
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So it is clear that what you got through the link on the email is a monthly bonus.
Fortunately, I read your post and you mentioned it in the email so I quickly checked.  I rarely open and read emails and even telegrams.  Well, yesterday I also received it with a Reloads button.  I was able to claim only once 67 TRX now. So I need to make a reload for me to able to claim again every 10 minutes that will expire on Jan. 19. Any amount will do even the minimum amount?
I didn't get anything in my mail Sad However looking at the situation 67 trx is about 2 dollars, which is not bad don't get me wrong, who gives 2 bucks for free to this many people in the world? Obviously not a lot of people, but I would say I wouldn't also be sad about missing out on 2 dollars neither.

I would like to say stake giveaways became a bit more frequent lately, don't know why and where that came from but they have started to make a lot more investments towards keeping the old players instead of just focusing on getting new players and that is sort of nice, I have missed this stake, when it first started the whole idea was to keep primedice comers here and that was nice, it feels like those days once again. Plus bitcoin being around 40k is another thing that is great which makes me realize stake has been around for a lot but primedice has been even further back so Stunna has been around since bitcoin was just 100 bucks.
2762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DEfi Hype Trends! This is not something you expect, go before you get stuck FOMO on: January 15, 2021, 07:01:51 AM
I agree with that, because every project that follows the current DEFI system has a very high potential if we can invest in that project. and currently I also save capital to be able to participate in the project, but if I look at the Defi at this time I see it is not optimal if it is an investment in the long term.
How potential the new defi project depends on the various thing. You can't generalize if all of the defi has very big potential to be used by the investors to invest their money on it.
I should remind you that defi has more potential to be used by the scammers rather than ICO consider the scammers will always try to take it as a way to steal the money from the investors.
I believe the idea is that defi projects are very short period oriented and not years and years of investment, that's the point. For example if you got into pancakeswap very early one, you would have made some profit from it, could you still do it? Sure but it would be less. However if you did it early on, move to something newer, then newer then newer constantly chased early days of defi projects, you would have ended up as making a ton of profit. That is why short periods, like the release date of it plus 1 more week then moving to something newer makes a lot more profit for you.

There are bad ones as well but that doesn't change the fact that there are good ones too, yet the point is none of them are good for few year investment. Obviously defi is new and we will have to wait and see what happens, but that's about it, we are not going to make too much money with it if you ask me.
2763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When Do You Take Profit From Your Altcoin Bags? on: January 15, 2021, 05:16:17 AM
Before i wanna try to invest in a coin and i have determined how much profit that should be achieved by my portfolios before i wanna try to sell it.
I will try to sell it when it reached the peak price. I don't know how much it is but i just take the at least 1x ROI as the minimum return that i can try to use it as my point to sell my altcoins.
It's easy to determine it dude.
I will not put a very big expectation like got 100x return from my investment lol
I do something similar and I would suggest you to do the same thing as well. Take out your own capital and continue with the rest of it. Let's say you invested 100 bucks into something, it became 150 bucks (that number can change to whatever you want), instead of taking out all the money from it, withdraw the 100 bucks you invested, now you are not in a loss, and you still have 50 bucks left in that project.

I did this to so many projects and right now I have about 80 bucks, I never invest more than 10 bucks to brand new projects, so 80 bucks would mean 8 successful ones and most of them weren't even 10 bucks and some lost money so I never lost a single dime, and I made 80 bucks with it, using only 10 bucks to invest to projects as well. So if you did this with 100, that would have been 800, if you did it with 10k, it would have been 80k. And this was only in 2020 as well so not really long time.
2764  Economy / Economics / Re: The sale of the COVID-19 vaccine on the dark web continues. on: January 15, 2021, 04:32:40 AM
What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?

there are free samples but there are also being sold . its the same as government giving free medicines and vitamins but they only give limited amounts and after that your going to purchase the other half and you can buy those on the drug stores and pharmacy but vaccine suppliers need to be careful buying in darkmarkets because scams are verry active on those places .
I think depending on your nation, it is free for everyone but it takes time. So let's say you got a nation with 100 million, and there is a need for 200 million vaccines (2 dosage for each person), even if the nation has 200 million vaccines all ready, getting that vaccine will take some time, first people who work in hospitals will get it, then people who are old will get it, then people who work will get it, then people who are government workers will get it, etc etc there is a line, and if you are 30 year old private business owner for example, yours could be as far as 8 to 12 months away even though it is free.

This is why some people buy these, and get it done themselves, just so they could be ready right now instead of a year from now to go out there without fear. A very very big mistake but at the end we are talking about fear of losing your life, so I kind of understand their logic.
2765  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don’t Panic on: January 14, 2021, 09:38:17 AM
This is just history repeating itself. I'm seen this all over again, after 2017-18 rise/drops. It was expected tbh, the rise from $30K to $40K was massive, and there was bound to be a correction/price drop sooner rather than later. I would suggest holding it for a longer time and ride the curve out, and especially if you bought at ~$20-35K, I would say wait it out before selling, ride the curve, there will be a rise back sooner rather than later. This always happens during abrupt rises. Don't think about cutting losses right now I'd say, I'm pretty sure you are bound to profit if you wait it out, as the price will rise back up faster than in previous years, due to increasing awareness and stuff.

And thats not counting the chance that if Elon Musk mentions it on Twitter, recommending it, then it will definitely surge lol  Wink Tongue
When the price increased so much just in the recent one month, I would suggest people who didn't bought literally just a week ago, to just wait it as well. Why do people make such a big fuss about this drop, it is not even 20% right now, it is like less than 10% drop and considering anyone who has ever bought bitcoin more than one month ago would be in a huge profit right now, people should not overreact to what the price is right now.

If it was 40k for years and dropped I would understand but it wasn't that big neither, it was literally just a small number that went to this price so everyone should be happy. I guess when you earn so much money from something, you want to see more of it and when it stops people just get angry because they want to make more and more of it constantly without stop, it is a psychological thing more than anything I suppose.
2766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can BTC go down to <$5k again now? on: January 14, 2021, 08:01:56 AM
How do you reconcile that with the drop to 1/4 of the price in the first four months of 2018? Was there a similar existential threat to BTC then too?

No. See the bolded phrase for emphasis.

That crash took place after magnitudes larger gains than those realized in this bull run. BTC broke the 2013 highs in January 2017. The bubble lasted a year. By December 2017, BTC had extended 16x above those 2013 highs.

In this case, the 2017 highs were only broken 1 month ago, and BTC has extended a mere 2x above the 2017 high. That's 1 year vs. 1 month and 16x vs. 2x. You're really expecting an 80%+ bear market crash already?

For this bubble to pop so much quicker than previous bubbles, and for the subsequent crash to also be so much harder than previous crashes.....that would indicate to me that something is different this time.
I would assume the only thing logical about the crash would be the amount required and not the percentage. For example in order for price to go over 1.5k to 20k it required less money versus the money required to make it from 20k to 40k, because each time you buy at 5k to make it 10k, you bought it at 5k, but right now you bought it at 30k to increase it, so people are spending more and more money to buy bitcoin to increase it.

I am not saying crash would come quicker, I am not saying we will not be going any higher, I think we are still in a bull market and we are still going to go up a lot more, I just wanted to explain what the crash expectations are all about. Since the money required is a lot more these days, same people expect bitcoin to be a lot lower right now due to how much money was required, that is why I believe they think it may go down.
2767  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 14, 2021, 06:48:49 AM
Just a fun game for thought but when do you think the Rolex will be hit? If that happens do you think Freebitco.in will still offer the free spins to every users or it will now needed a sats just to play the game? I think that's a fun game especially guessing when will it be hit.
I have one bigger question related to that. What do you think would happen if you win rolex but you want money? I mean we know that if you win the lambo, you end up with 200k dollars if I am not wrong on your account, well at least 200k dollars worth bitcoins in your account. This made me realized, the rolex is about 15k dollars from what freebitcoin says, and if I win rolex, do you have to send the rolex to me which would be harder, or can I just simply get 15k dollars worth of bitcoins in my account? That one seems a bit more logical and I am 99.99% sure that freebitcoin would allow that and help you with that if you end up winning, but I just wanted to make sure and get a response from thequin about it and make it 100% guaranteed at least.

I know 15k is not a huge sum that will change your life but I still would rather get that over just... a watch?
2768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advice for beginner HODLers on: January 14, 2021, 04:50:28 AM
The first trick is to not overwhelm yourself. You only really need to know the basics; go on YouTube and watch a couple of "summary" videos on Satoshi's White Paper. It will summarise the key points of Bitcoin. The other trick is to only bite off what you can chew. Binance exchange looks fun right? You want to trade crypto right? WRONG - leave it, don't bother, you DO NOT know what you are doing. It's unnecessary anxiety.

So if you want to HODL, here are my suggested steps:

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You have good plans, but most people are already aware of this. It’s good that you have plans to hold for five to ten years, because it’s not everyone that has that kind of plan, some people prefer to invest short term and have their money back and sometimes it doesn’t work out for them, and sometimes it does. I don’t think I have ever HODL for more than two years, although my way of investing has always been to wait for when the price is very low, then I will invest and wait for increase in short time.

Around last year and last two, I invested and made profit as the price reached 12000 and 13000 dollars. Then 2020 the price fell again, and I still invested again, expecting to cash out in another 12000 USD price, but when I noticed there will be bull run I held on to it.
2769  Economy / Economics / Re: Out of Reach on: January 13, 2021, 09:25:43 AM
I will just wait until the price will start to dump, then I will start to accumulate,

That was the same mentality most users had when become was below $5000, they wanted to wait for more dump below $1000 or whatever their targets were before they start buying which didn't happen. The issue is no matter what price bitcoin is trading at, people will still be skeptical and wait for further drops before they start buying which might never happen.

Irrespective of what the price of bitcoin is you can accumulate 1 bitcoin if you're determine in owning it. It might take you more time than previous years when bitcoin was low but you'll definitely get 1 bitcoin at the end. Just keep accumulating as many satoshi you can and protect your savings by making use of recommended wallet that gives you control over your private keys.

You can learning trading as well as that's another way to accumulate satoshi through outsmarting the market. One bitcoin is never out of reach, and the sooner you get your hands on one, the better as with time the period for the average joe to be able to afford one will increase.
That is exactly my goal as well. I do not care about the price of bitcoin, I want to have 1 bitcoin in the end, and in order to do that I keep investing money into it, right now I do not have anything close just yet, but I also have alts and when you take how much bitcoin they would worth today into account plus the bitcoin I already have, I am not that far away that way. So long story short if you want to make money from crypto, you can't just keep waiting and waiting, you have to get in, you have to keep being involved and grind.

If you make a purchase today, and price goes down, you could easily just buy some more later when it is cheaper, it went down even more? You can keep doing more and more of this the same thing. For example if you invested in bitcoin this way for the past 1 year, you would have been pretty rich by now, but if you did it on XRP there wouldn't be much change, so you have to pick a decent coin as well.
2770  Economy / Economics / Re: Trump bans Alipay and seven other Chinese apps on: January 13, 2021, 08:48:33 AM
Like in the US, Trump also stated that he had banned Alipay and seven other Chinese apps because it threatens their national security. But do you think Trump and India banned these Chinese apps for protecting their security or due to different reasons that they don't want China to have a better economy because many people are into their products nowadays?
Are they really two different things? Are we sure about that? I mean obviously we can say that having a chinese application used by millions of americans is a dangerous thing because in coding you could get as much information about people as you can, which tiktok was condemned and nearly got banned for, and alipay and other apps do get information as well, maybe not as much as tiktok but they still do. Looking at alipay, they will not die just because americans do not use it, they will still be great, but at the end of the day there will be a small hit financially too.

But when I look at china, I do not see everyone using facebook, twitter, instagram or other american apps, if they do not use it, and make their own alternates, why do americans are forced to use chinese ones? It is a double edged sword, chinese ban american apps, and americans ban chinese apps, it is that simple. It both allows countries to be safe, but also do not allow other nations make money from it.
2771  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does Trading have an advantage over investing?? on: January 13, 2021, 06:42:40 AM
Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
It depends both on the Trader and where will an Investor invest. Trading IMO if you are really good at it will offer higher ROE in a faster time compared to investing but Trading is a lot harder than investing for me. Both offer good possible returns, it just varies on the owner of the funds how they wil profit from the two different method.
This is exactly what people do not understand. It is not one right or wrong answer, it all depends on the person and the period. An investor that invests during a bear market and knows what is he is doing will profit a lot later on, a trader that trades during bull market would make a decent return if he is good, there are tons of other possible scenarios as well.

It all depends if you are a great trader or a horrible trader, if you are a great investor or a bad one, is it a bear market, or a bull market, are you trading/investing on the right coin or found a bad one... I can count many many more things, yet for some reason people think that it is one right or wrong answer. I personally like investing, it allows me to actually be a lot more relax, because trading requires a lot more knowledge and I am not really comfortable with being that much involved constantly.
2772  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Best Exchange of the 2020 on: January 13, 2021, 06:00:29 AM
Year ended, we have some new exellent opening of the year like Uniswap, but what is the best exchange of the year, what do you think?

Binance and Okex is the best exchange for me specially in trading. We have local crypto exchange which is the best exchange also specially if I'm going to convert my crypto currency into our fiat money and cashing out, it's very helpful.
Local exchanges are usually the best ones when you involved fiat into the logic, because we can't get our fiat money from binance, and I can't do that from coinbase neither because I do not live in a place that coinbase works with, so at the end of the day we are not talking about anything substantial here, we are talking about only fiat here and that is when the local exchanges become the best.

I honestly haven't traded too much in all of 2020 at binance, you wanna know why? Because, my local exchange both allows me the withdraw directly to my bank account, but it also has about 20-30 coins in there as well, so if I wanted to, I could trade there as well. So, I feel like a common exchange deal is getting older and older and will probably not work, all those binance and kucoin and okex type of places will end, there will be dex and local ones.
2773  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 play&invest BTC ETH LTC DOGE on: January 12, 2021, 03:53:31 PM

Because there are More sites now that attractive and really promising Good wins in which Really fair if we try.
What do you mean? Yolodice also ran wager contest before and it really attract more poeple to come. But the result isn't good for site and investor because in the end of contest, yolodice's btc profit dropped almost 10 btc on that time
I understand why people may say that they want a lot more users on yolodice compared to other places. One of the main reasons is the fact that we are the people who invest into bankroll here, which means when gamblers lose money, the investors earn money and not the casino itself, well yolodice wins some too obviously but at least investors do make a good profit thanks to gamblers losing.

It means people will want a lot more users, doesn't matter how much, there could be 1000 people gambling all at once, and people will ask for 2000 people, there could be 2000 and we will want 5000 people because in the end the more people gambles here, the more money investors make. So, it is not always sensible request, it is not always a request yolodice could fulfill, because it is a never ending request and investors will always want more and more, because why not?
2774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating on: January 11, 2021, 09:55:37 AM
The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating

What at least most of these people do is not cheating. Yes it is against casino rules, since it brings them loss, but is definitely not cheating. They just try to beat the game. And they do it smart.
Yes, they are working smart to think of a way to beat the house. They have the mind to find ways to be able to beat the house and they were successful but their method is just unethical and that's purely cheating. We may have different opinions as you believe it's not cheating but for me, it's considered cheating as they violated rules and used tools and techniques that should not be done in the first place.
If players are doing things like Arbitrage in sports betting or revealing the server seed somehow those are absolute cases of cheating. But if someone has profited by making some kind of strategies then they are lucky and calling them cheater is a bad idea because they have been lucky and we have to remember that the house edge is so small in most crypto casinos that it is not impossible to actually beat the house edge in long term too.

There have been several instances of players cheating the casino which is also the reason why casinos are now trying to get user KYC done like stake recently announced they will double certain bonuses for their players if they are verified. I know why they are doing that, it is to stop the giveaway abuse while also in case a player cheats they have his identity as well to sue him legally.
2775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: January 11, 2021, 09:21:14 AM
It's a nice thing that you are gambling for fun and entertainment which should always be the main and fundamental reason for gambling and hence you don't have any regrets since you aren't gambling with funds you earn from businesses etc, and in that way you aren't getting addicted to gambling because you are limiting your gambling budget to the amount you earn here. Many people go beyond and they try to chase losses back which pulls them in the trap!
Yeah and you also remain in control when you bet with spare funds and don't get addicted. There are some guys in the forum who take signature campaigns as a means of earning which is not the ideal thing to do because then you feel like you are working in a company and taking salary. I always consider signature campaigns' earnings as an additional reward and money which I can spend on things like gambling or if I have been looking to buy something or plan a holiday.

Some really interesting answers to read throughout this thread and I'm glad people support the casino by playing and losing there because they got the money for promoting them. It should not be a recommendation but indeed something everyone should consider, I mean if you are going to gamble then at least play at the casino which is paying you.
2776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting History - 2020 on: January 11, 2021, 08:15:05 AM
it is now scientifically clear that gamblers, at a certain level, develop the same dependencies as people who abuse drugs. Our brain, in certain areas, works the same no matter what you are doing. Knowing that already helps a lot to control the way we play and behave.
Agree. Gambling feels like it starts from fun and slowly becomes an addiction because any hobby where finances are involved would never remain a fun activity for too long. People start trading for fun and end up losing everything because they are so addicted to stocks market, not because they get any kind of pleasure but because finances are involved and with time we develop a tendency to recover our losses which is the beginning of the end.

I never make that a resolution because it won't work if you want to stop you can do anytime without giving out any resolution or promise, you can have an impressive runs but once you got bad luck everything be taken out, the only solution is moderation, and having a mindset that gambling is not a business or a replacement for a job.
The problem with making resolutions is that once you gamble you will feel guilty of not being able to stay focused on the resolution you made and that makes you feel weak. I would rather do what I feel I should do and avoid making resolutions because resolutions and self promises make you weak when you are unable to achieve them.
2777  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC crossed $34K. $40K this week? on: January 10, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Current price of Bitcoin is at $ 40 500, this is a high price for Bitcoin,
especially many experts predict that Bitcoin can go to $ 50k this year, of course this makes Fomo continue,
and I really like it, but unfortunately altcoins are still not moving to low cap.
To be honest if the pace of price increase goes on it could reach $100K in no time but I guess we need to consider all the things like market correction or even regulators intervention but it seems what people always keep saying back then about $100K/BTC is not just a dream, even bitcoin could climb up to $40K price mark with ease. Maybe within 5 years we gonna see significant change in the market.
Regulatory intervention seems to be not around, SEC and other nations similar branches do not really care about the "price" of bitcoin, they care about how it is used and who uses it, that's it. That is why if you want to cash out your bitcoins into fiat and get it into your bank, almost all exchanges asks for KYC, since they want to know who you are and how much you have and give that information to government, aside from that there is nothing they want from you.

That means there is only one reason why the increase on bitcoin price could stop ; the demand getting lower. We have to realize the fact that people love to buy bitcoin right now because they want to get rich, but at some point everyone will start to think that the price is too much and they do not want to buy anymore and will find it risky, at that moment people will start to sell more and price will finally go down.
2778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Play smart, set exit points, take profit, re-enter on: January 10, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
There's always a certain price level that will effectively never be seen again, unless Bitcoin falls to zero, and this level is constantly going up. $1,000 seemed like a big deal in 2017 when it was witnessed for a second time, but after that is has never been seen again. When you sell, there's always a risk that this price will be below the bottom that will come after the crash, so no matter what you do, you will miss out on some profits. This is why people choose to HODL - you can't make mistakes with it.
I feel the same about going under 10k right now. Back in 2017 it was a big deal to go over 1k, but we never went under 3k even again, which means 3k+ was the bottom, before that it was a big deal to go over 100 dollars, but we have seen 1400 dollars, never seen under 100 dollars again (which is what ethereum is doing right now I think) and now we have seen 40k, I think we are not going to see under 10k ever again from now on.

We may never know this, we didn't know we wouldn't go under 100 dollars ever again, we didn't know we wouldn't go under 3k ever again, and just like that we don't know if we will see under 10k ever again neither. All we can do is speculate and right now I think that speculation is definitely 10k. It was a hard psychological number that we went high and low constantly and we didn't really go above it easily, but when we did, we just skyrocketed to 40k+ dollars.
2779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Maximalism Has Won on: January 10, 2021, 08:58:43 AM
it technically uses an altcoin that is pegged to BTC---there is a difference.

no layer 2 protocol can ever provide the same security guarantees that bitcoin does. i think that's why interest in them has traditionally been lacking.
Whatever it is, it's still pegged to bitcoin, has no premine, is immutable, is not as centralized and is much safer compared to the alternative such as ethereum.
The only reason why the interest in RSK is not as much as ETH is because you can't pump and dump it like you pump and dump ETH so there isn't any profit to be made there, and also the hype of the ETH platform means you can easily create the shittest and most useless token and still dump it on idiots and make money whereas if you do that on RSK nobody would even hear about it let alone anyone buying that shittoken.
ETH is still by far the king of all altcoins because it is definitely something profitable to hold when hypes happen, it is the second biggest coin so when bitcoin stops eth starts to grow. Think about it this way, if bitcoin is loved so much and everyone gets it, the moment they start to look for something else? They look at ETH and that is why nothing else can ever pass it.

It doesn't matter if the tech is better, it doesn't matter if there is a better feature or a code, it doesn't matter whatever other coins do better, you think bitcoin is the top coin because it has the best blockchain? Obviously bitcoin is one of the worst coins technically speaking, there are so many coins which are hundred times better than bitcoin, but bitcoin still leads them, because it has a larger community that trusts it, which is why you should focus on ETH being second, not ETH code.
2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever proven fairness of games? on: January 10, 2021, 08:09:37 AM
I don't have so many experiences with different gambling site but to know if the gambling site has proven fairness then you must try it first, if two sportsbooks have the same game then play both games and by that, you may see if there is a fairness in the website, I have tried betfury and for me, it has fairness in a game which makes me trust them and keep on playing on it.
Sportsbook are NOT provably fair man that is quite obvious so not sure what you mean by that but yeah I agree and have played at betfury and they are indeed very eye catchy and games are fair.

Verifying your bets is an essential part of crypto gambling and I am not asking or recommending to verify every bet but at least verify a few bets every time you make 100-200 bets randomly because that ensures that if something fishy was going on, it would be visible clearly.

That said, I don't verify many bets myself because I trust these casinos I play at and the bet size is usually small because I chase high multipliers.
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