We have luck of the slush today  I'm all about luck of the Slush! I'm convinced and I'm here to stay... through the good times and the bad... yup 10-5 rented 4 th/s to add to my farm hit 6 10-6 rented 10 th/s and hit 10 both paid off well helped my little farm make .3 btc profit above my normal payouts sweeeeeeeeeet can't wait for Batch 10 of the S3's to come available. I'm getting 10 more of them for approximately 9.4 to 9.6 TH/s total. The 10 I have now are clocked at 231.4 MHz each and Slush says they are at 4793.739 Ghash/s (4.793739 TH/s) respectively at the moment. |
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We have luck of the slush today I'm all about luck of the Slush! I'm convinced and I'm here to stay... through the good times and the bad... |
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10 BLOCKS FOR 10-06-14 SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET |
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A BLOCK [$340.00 x 25 = $8,500.00]
60 TH/s = 28 days, 17 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) ABOUT A MONTH
12 Miner Farms at 5 TH/s minimum per Farm $708.33 per block found
6 Miner Farms at 10 TH/s minimum per Farm $1,416.66 per block found
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4 miners at 5 TH/s minimum per Farm $708.33 per block found
4 miners at 10 TH/s minimum per Farm $1,416.66 per block found
120 TH/s = 14 days, 8 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) ABOUT 15 DAYS
8 miners at 5 TH/s minimum per Farm $354.17 per block x 2 blocks in 1 month = $708.33 per 5 TH/s Farm in 30-Days
8 miners at 10 TH/s minimum per Farm $708.33 per block x 2 blocks in 1 month = $1,416.66 per 10 TH/s Farm in 30-Days
180 TH/s = 9 days, 13 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) ABOUT 10-DAYS
12 miners at 5 TH/s minimum per Farm $235.87 per block x 3 blocks in 1 month = $708.33 per 5 TH/s Farm in 30-Days
12 miners at 10 TH/s minimum per Farm $471.75 per block x 3 blocks in 1 month = $1,416.66 per 10 TH/s Farm in 30-Day
Did a little more math for you.
The hard part will be to get the mining farms to join you.
Also, I can make approximately 2.7 BTC ($918.00 GROSS @ $340 per BTC) on average in Slush's pool every month with 4.6 TH's (10 Bitmain AntMiner S3's). I have 10 more S3's on the way as soon as Batch 10 comes available.
I personally believe BTC is heading for $550 to $600 by X-MAS. I'm keeping EVERY SINGLE BTC I MAKE IN MY WALLET TILL IT REACHS $550 MINIMUM.
I figure your pool would work better with larger farms of 20 TH/s [minimum] EACH with a TOTAL HASHING POWER OF 340 TH/s [5 days, 1 hour (can vary greatly depending on your luck)]. That would be approximately 6 blocks every 30 Days for a total of $51,000 @ $340.00 per BTC. Divide 340 by 20 TH/s = 17. Divide $51,000 by Seventeen (17) 20 TH/s mining Farms = $3,000.00 every 30 Days.
IF you compare 20 TH/s of hashing power used on Slush's Pool, one could make approximately 12 BTC every 30 Days = $4,080.00
BOTTOM LINE: A LARGE pool is hard to beat if you have a lot of hashing power. IF you have an ASTRONOMICAL SIZED FARM IN A WAREHOUSE, such as 240 TH/s all by yourself [7 days, 4 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck)]; IT WOULD BE BETTER TO MINE SOLO THAN JOIN ANY POOL! However, Slush's Pool is the best thing going out of any pool right now. As long as we stay the size we are. It would still be better if it gets larger; though I hope it doesn't get over 9 PH/s average. Right now we average about 6.8 PH/s.
The ONLY way your pool would be better is if the pool got very lucky quite often. That would be a risk the pool members would take.
MY HONEST OPINION
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Anyone have any info on how many GHS-THS it takes to find and solve a block?
I am thinking of starting a private pool and only allowing x amount of members totalling x amount of hashing
At present difficulty [34,661,425,924], finding a block is represented depending on hashing power. I did a few "What If's" based on assumed hashing power: 50 TH/s = 34 days, 11 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 60 TH/s = 28 days, 17 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 70 TH/s = 24 days, 14 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 80 TH/s = 21 days, 12 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 90 TH/s = 19 days, 3 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 100 TH/s = 17 days, 5 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 110 TH/s = 15 days, 15 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 120 TH/s = 14 days, 8 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 130 TH/s = 13 days, 6 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 140 TH/s = 12 days, 7 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 150 TH/s = 11 days, 11 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 160 TH/s = 10 days, 18 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 170 TH/s = 10 days, 3 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 180 TH/s = 9 days, 13 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 190 TH/s = 9 days, 1 hour (can vary greatly depending on your luck) 200 TH/s = 8 days, 14 hours (can vary greatly depending on your luck) THIS INFO ABOVE should be enough to get you started with an idea of what you need to find something in a matter of two weeks without much problem. IF you want to solve a block EACH DAY, you need the following at present difficulty: 1700 TH/s (1.7 PH/s) = 1 day (can vary greatly depending on your luck) SLUSH'S POOL [LATELY] has averaged 6800 TH/s (6.8 PH/s) 6 hours, 4 minutes (can vary greatly depending on your luck). THAT IS FOUR (4) BLOCKS EACH DAY ON AVERAGE. However, we have been doing about 5.2 blocks each day on average the last 30 Days. Four (4) Blocks each day x .01523747 average shares = .06094988 BTC per day x 30 days = 1.82849640 BTC However, we have done 5.2 blocks per day for the last 30 days x .01523747 average shares = .07923484 x 30 days = 2.37704532 All of that with 4.6 TH/s Farm. I've made 0.88 BTC the last 7.5 days with this small farm. We've had a good last 7.5 days. I have 10 more S3's on the way from Batch 10 as soon as they are available! Hope this helps... |
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Anyone have any info on how many GHS-THS it takes to find and solve a block?
I am thinking of starting a private pool and only allowing x amount of members totalling x amount of hashing
Then when we find a block it will be distributed equally amongst the members naturally all members will be required to bring their share of that x amount of hashing to the table.
I myself have 10TH/s to bring to the table
second question anyone know how many watts a overclocked s3+ uses? I am thinking of upgrading my units to s3 units but need to weigh in if there is any true savings to go that route currently I run a rack of cointerras
and why only 1 payout yesterday i normally fetch 4-5
I have 10 Bitmain Antminer S3+ overclocked at 231.5 MHz to 237 MHz. Combined, according to Slush's Pool, I'm averaging 4.7 TH's with those 10 S3+s, even though I KNOW they are hashing faster than that. It is hard to say how many watts at the wall you will pull per S3 without knowing the PSU used. I'm using five (5) Corsair AX860's [One AX860 for every two S3's]. My AX860's are PLATINUM rated and are very power efficient. I'm pulling 718 watts at the wall with an AX860 powering two Antminer S3's without being over clocked; 728 watts at the wall with just a slight bit of over clocking. I've seen other PSU's on youtube that would pull as much as 740 to 760 at the wall without over clocking. A cheap easy way to KNOW your power usage is to order the following on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RGF29Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1The P3 International P4460 Kill A Watt EZ Electricity Usage Monitor will allow you to edit how much your power company charges per kWH. Then, you can see how much power was used by what is plugged into it. This is a valuable tool if you have a business that you have used to buy your miners and you need to KNOW how much power the miners are using so you can write off the power usage on your taxes. Do NOT write it off on your taxes if you are not reporting your bit coin mining earnings. The pool idea sounds great! CK has a solo mining pool but the miner who found the block gets all the earnings minus .5% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763510.0 |
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What a great day! Let's confirm all 8 of these pending blocks!
AGREED!!! Aproaching 8000 TH/s of pool hashing power... Over the 8 Ph mark now and at least this time, I suppose we have plenty of blocks to show for it. Certainly do... Certainly Do!!! |
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What a great day! Let's confirm all 8 of these pending blocks!
AGREED!!! Aproaching 8000 TH/s of pool hashing power... |
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In the subject of this thread, is it 9000 TH or 900 TH ?  Maybe mistake...!  ~~MZ~~ That was the an old post we are currently at 7.8 PH but usually hang around 5.6 to 6.2 PH when we don't have all the hoppers dropping by, Yes, usually between 6200 TH/s to 6700 TH/s from what I've seen since the difficulty last went up. The weekends are usually the worse for pool hoppers. I wish they would choose a pool and stay! We do great till they come by our pool and mess up the moe-joe! It gets us out of sink or something and takes HOURS before we get it back. We do actually deserve to be a 20,000 TH (20 PH) pool. However, I'm thankful to have a higher portion of shares of blocks found while the hoppers are away! |
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OK guys in the past (and I am guilty of this myself) we have mentioned Slush and the great atmosphere and payouts around the web. Now there are getting to be too many pool hoppers so can we please not mention our beloved pool on other message boards anymore? I think we have just enough of us now to find enough blocks without it being so crowded that we only get a tiny percentage (as happens when that 11 TH block jumps in as it does every two days or so now). Just a thought.  AGREED!!! And lets chill out about it on here as well for those who may visit this blog!!! |
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Does anyone do much "Load Balance" in the "Miner Configuration" with 3 pools at the same time with their S3?
Just wanted someone's experience with that before I tried it.
I did it with two miners for approximately 2 minutes. I saw my estimated reward go up on Slush BUT my shares contributed to current round was -5816015570 [A negative number). Don't know WHY it was negative? So, I took it off of "Load Balance" and put it back to "Failover" in both of those miners.
I did notice my hash rate go down on ghash during that 2 minutes. So, I switched it back to "Failover."
Anyone ever done this?
Load balance takes hours to even out, and because different pools end up running at different diff values, it may not look like they're balanced but will end up being so. Thanks Again! |
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10.5 min avg blocks since new diff so might not go up much next round except even at that ridiculous price batch 1 s4 sold out in 12 hours
Batch 1 wasn't that large to begin with, this is from their post in S4 thread: S4'B1 is limited in quantity, as it is the first mass production after the development stage. understood still dont see how anyone would buy that 3.4 btc for .01 w gh/s improvement over s3+ .069 vs .070 when 2 s3+ is 1.16 and prob cheaper you can get 4 for over 1 btc cheaper and have same hash rate and I know it has an integrated psu so they wont have to buy 2 140 dollar psu's but they have to find a 16 amp power cord that fits hmmmmm... gonna be tuff 15 amp is what 12 gauge and thats already thicker then standard computer power cord bet it costs a bit and as standard outlets in the us are 15 amp rated I'm sure warranties will be void Agree, I wonder if they noticed that server psu and those 4 large fans? It is going to be very loud. S4 was obviously geared for their hosting option or a data center not the home. Either way you will never see ROI with it but sheep will be sheep. yup i was looking online and it appears only 250 volt solutions for above 15 amp power cords Wouldn't surprise me if the S5 when it comes out is a 220v only, just hope they don't drop the S3 line. Don't let this come across as "attacking" anyone: You fail to realize the S4 COMES WITH A POWER SUPPLY BUILT IN. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A PSU TO POWER THE THING. We have to buy PSU's to power the 3 or 4 Antminer S3's to get about the same hashing power. I prefer the S3+ at this point in time. However, the S4 will probably have a greater resale value down the road if you choose to get out of mining at some point in time. So, you save money not having to buy PSU. Their PSU is GOLD rated and not PLATINUM rated like my Corsair AX860's powering my S3's. Also, someone made a good point about the "watts consumed at the wall." Approximately 1400 watts OR 1380 watts to be exact when you multiply the .69 watts x 2,000 GH/s. TRY putting two of these on a 20 AMP circuit; EVEN WHEN YOU REPLACE THE STANDARD 15 AMP RECEPTACLE (OUTLET) WITH A 20 AMP OUTLET. You would only be able to put ONE of these bad boys on that ONE 20 AMP OUTLET. 20 AMPS will drive 2400 WATTS. Do the math: 1400 watts x 2 Bitmain Antminer S4's is 2800 WATTS. The 12/2 wire will get too hot. IF you have 14/2, YOUR HOUSE WILL BURN DOWN if the breaker doesn't trip! SOLUTION: RUN 10/3 wire [Rated at 30 AMPS] to a 30 AMP OUTLET [NEMA L-14-30-R (circular/4 prong)]. IT MUST BE NEMA L-14-30-R/CIRCULAR. OTHERWISE, IT WILL NOT ALLOW THE NEXT THING I MENTION TO PLUG INTO IT. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Pass-Seymour-30-Amp-Self-Grounding-Locking-Single-Outlet-Receptacle-Black-L1430RCCV3/100155901?N=5yc1vZc33aZ1z11vjb#specificationsTHEN GET THE FOLLOWING EXTENSION CORD [3 ft. Generator 30 Amp 4-prong to 15-20 Amp (x2) Y-Adapter] TO PLUG INTO THE NEMA L-14-30-R OUTLET: This extension cord splits INTO TWO 20 AMP PLUGS to plug in two Bitmain Antminer S4's. It's only 3 feet but it gets the job done. You can add more length with additional cords if needed. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rodale-3-ft-Generator-30-Amp-4-prong-to-15-20-Amp-x2-Y-Adapter-G30AM420AY/202669114?N=5yc1vZc4neZ1z11vjbDON'T FORGET THE DOUBLE POLE 30 AMP BREAKER. http://www.homedepot.com/s/double%2520pole%252030%2520amp%2520breaker?NCNI-5Problem solved; IF YOU HAVE THE S4's in mind. Now you have 30 AMP circuit [3600 watts] for the 2800 watts required for two S4's David |
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Does anyone do much "Load Balance" in the "Miner Configuration" with 3 pools at the same time with their S3?
Just wanted someone's experience with that before I tried it.
I did it with two miners for approximately 2 minutes. I saw my estimated reward go up on Slush BUT my shares contributed to current round was -5816015570 [A negative number). Don't know WHY it was negative? So, I took it off of "Load Balance" and put it back to "Failover" in both of those miners.
I did notice my hash rate go down on ghash during that 2 minutes. So, I switched it back to "Failover."
Anyone ever done this?
David
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Does anyone do much "Load Balance" in the "Miner Configuration" with 3 pools at the same time with their S3?
Just wanted someone's experience with that before I tried it.
I did it with two miners for approximately 2 minutes. I saw my estimated reward go up on Slush BUT my shares contributed to current round was -5816015570 [A negative number). Don't know WHY it was negative? So, I took it off of "Load Balance" and put it back to "Failover" in both of those miners.
I did notice my hash rate go down on ghash during that 2 minutes. So, I switched it back to "Failover."
Anyone ever done this?
David
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The reason I made mention of RAID 0 is for the sake of cgminer. Does cgminer [In a sense] put all my miners in RAID 0 [You might say] to allow for more chance of a higher "Best Share" score BECAUSE OF a better COMBINED hash rate. At present, it's as if the miners are both solo on solo [One might say]. Will cgminer COMBINE THE MINERS in something like a RAID 0 to increase chances? Or will it remain like you said regardless, "BestShare is a random event." You did have a "but" in that sentence, when you said, "...but probability based."
IF cgminer COMBINES my miners in something like a RAID 0 to make them like ONE PIECE OF HARDWARE, that would increase hash rate and no longer be solo miners on a solo pool. That's what I meant earlier when I said, "solo on solo." It may be it makes no difference what so ever whether they are combined as if they were one piece of equipment or not? Not sure...
David
there is no advantage to running hardware in separate instances as opposed to combining them. IE two miner instances, running separately on individual 1 TH hardware will have the same chance as 1 miner instance that combines the 2 one TH units. IOW 2 TH is 2 TH whether its several instances or one instance. the odds are the same either way. Thank you!!! |
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I'll read the READ ME in cgminer even though I'm not using it or bfgminer. I have a Mac. I downloaded cgminer in Windows 7 via Parallel's. That's where I have the read me. I haven't installed it because I don't know anything about commands and things to enter into it. I would be totally lost because of my ignorance. I was looking for a place to solo mine without cgminer.
IF cgminer COMBINES my miners in something like a RAID 0 to make them like ONE PIECE OF HARDWARE, that would increase hash rate and no longer be solo miners on a solo pool. That's what I meant earlier when I said, "solo on solo." It may be it makes no difference what so ever whether they are combined as if they were one piece of equipment or not? Not sure...
The S3 internally uses cgminer (which I wrote by the way) so whether you know it or not you are using it. There is no way to combine miners to make them more efficient or more hashrate or luckier or anything. It makes no difference. Thanks again... Please forgive my ignorance. I'll start reading... |
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I would REALLY like to understand my miners well to KNOW which one's would be the best to use on this SOLO pool ck formed. They have been on their there longer than the Elapsed time you see here. The Elapsed Time changed when I changed pool 2 to ghash.
I thought it was ODD that the "BestShare" on the Miner that was hashing LONGER was a MUCH LOWER VALUE.
I don't even understand "BestShare". All I know is if it is higher than the difficulty, then I have found a block.
No mining hardware is any better than any other for solo mining. It makes no difference which one you point where. Best share is a random event but probability based. The higher your hashrate, the higher on average the best share will be, but due to random chance it could be anything. The only reason it's there for you to read is to see how close you have come to solving a block where a best share of better than 34.7 billion is currently a block solve. The rest of your stats I suggest you do lots of reading in other threads, and the README included in cgminer to understand them. OKAY, THANKS for explaining the "BestShare" to me!!! I'll read the READ ME in cgminer even though I'm not using it or bfgminer. I have a Mac. I downloaded cgminer in Windows 7 via Parallel's. That's where I have the read me. I haven't installed it because I don't know anything about commands and things to enter into it. I would be totally lost because of my ignorance. I was looking for a place to solo mine without cgminer. Would I have an advantage with cgminer? The reason I ask [I was just thinking... uh oh... LOL]: I have two (2) OWC 480GB SSD's in RAID 0 installed in my 17" MacBook Pro; for a total of 960GB; and 16GB of RAM. The reason I made mention of RAID 0 is for the sake of cgminer. Does cgminer [In a sense] put all my miners in RAID 0 [You might say] to allow for more chance of a higher "Best Share" score BECAUSE OF a better COMBINED hash rate. At present, it's as if the miners are both solo on solo [One might say]. Will cgminer COMBINE THE MINERS in something like a RAID 0 to increase chances? Or will it remain like you said regardless, "BestShare is a random event." You did have a "but" in that sentence, when you said, "...but probability based." IF cgminer COMBINES my miners in something like a RAID 0 to make them like ONE PIECE OF HARDWARE, that would increase hash rate and no longer be solo miners on a solo pool. That's what I meant earlier when I said, "solo on solo." It may be it makes no difference what so ever whether they are combined as if they were one piece of equipment or not? Not sure... David |
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try google . . . sorry to be rude but getting off topic a little. lots of the stuffs are easily found in the forum or google but as for S3, you can disregard the discarded. try the S3 thread under HW i believe.
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Yes, I'm a "Newbie" to this mining thing. I have ten (10) Bitmain Antminer S3's. They are S3+ [If that means anything different from a regular S3.].
I would REALLY like to understand my miners well to KNOW which one's would be the best to use on this SOLO pool ck formed. They have been on their longer than the Elapsed time you see here. The Elapsed Time changed when I changed pool 2 to ghash.
In Miner Status it shows the following in the two S3's I have pointed at the pool.
[They are divided as such: Miner 1 / Miner 2]
Elapsed = 2h 48m 53s / 3h 18m 17s [Self Explanatory]
GH/S(5s) = 448.68 / 452.88 [Self Explanatory]
GH/S(avg) = 451.13 / 452.41 [Self Explanatory]
FoundBlocks = 0 / 0 [Self Explanatory]
Getworks = 363 / 423 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Accepted = 2,772 / 3,402 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Rejected = 9 / 13 PLEASE EXPLAIN
HW = 7 / 69 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Utility = 16 / 17 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Discarded = 34,743 / 39,154 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Stale = 0 / 0 PLEASE EXPLAIN
LocalWork = 1,851,057 / 2,180,499 PLEASE EXPLAIN
WU = 6,326 / 6,344 PLEASE EXPLAIN
DiffA = 1,062,349 / 1,270,240 PLEASE EXPLAIN
DiffR = 4,655 / 4,914 PLEASE EXPLAIN
DiffS = 0 / 0 PLEASE EXPLAIN
BestShare = 5,070,932 / 1,584,585 PLEASE EXPLAIN
Any advice would be appreciated!
I thought it was ODD that the "BestShare" on the Miner that was hashing LONGER was a MUCH LOWER VALUE.
I don't even understand "BestShare". All I know is if it is higher than the difficulty, then I have found a block.
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Did y'all NOTICE this on Slush:
Coins will be sent once the reward crosses over the threshold. An additional fee of 0.0001 BTC applies for payouts lower than 0.01 BTC.
HAVE I BEEN BLIND?
I thought I could only get my BTC out once it reaches 1.0 BTC.
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