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2761  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 25, 2017, 01:45:31 AM
These machines are too fancy for mining , but do these last long ?
My bad experience tells me , if you get the original version with first hand quality , you can expect the bigger picture . Otherwise buying these always wrapped up with too much risks.
But in vain , risk taker wins the race. So , Good luck. Suggest me any good distributor of it , i will be glad . Thank you.
We have no idea right now but historically Avalon has always been on top with reliability and quality. They're one of the most reliable modern miners you can get right now. Still not worth paying a huge premium for the A8 still though imo.

If you're in the United States Blokforge is a legit distributor of miners. They're supposedly starting sales on the 26th.
Paying a huge premium wouldn't make sense, you could just buy more S9s and consider them spares (while they mine of course Smiley). I really want to buy a higher quality product from a good distribution network, I'm hoping price is right and I'll put my order.
Problem is distributors will probably mark up the prices to higher than direct. From what I can tell they'll be around the $3000 mark or up which is pretty ridiculous even for a quality product. Hopefully Avalon and their distributors will change their minds about pricing.
They probably wont. Last bitmain S9 batch went pretty quickly for $2750. They will sell just fine at 3k, probably even at 4k, so why in hell would they sell it for less? Would you do that?
It'd be nice if they did. Not saying that they will do anything of the sort, but here's to hoping that they might. They've always been priced above Bitmain, so it'll be a small miracle if prices go even near that of Bitmain's.
2762  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M3 11.5 Th/s, 2000W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: December 25, 2017, 01:44:35 AM
11.7 Thash at 2000-2200 watts is a joke these days, I wouldn't use it if it were free.  Piece of crap 28 nm miner.
Still decent for people with cheaper electrical costs and it comes at half the price of a preorder S9. It has its niche and it's selling out almost instantly. Was actually considering buying one of these as I have very cheap electricity.
2763  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 24, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
These machines are too fancy for mining , but do these last long ?
My bad experience tells me , if you get the original version with first hand quality , you can expect the bigger picture . Otherwise buying these always wrapped up with too much risks.
But in vain , risk taker wins the race. So , Good luck. Suggest me any good distributor of it , i will be glad . Thank you.
We have no idea right now but historically Avalon has always been on top with reliability and quality. They're one of the most reliable modern miners you can get right now. Still not worth paying a huge premium for the A8 still though imo.

If you're in the United States Blokforge is a legit distributor of miners. They're supposedly starting sales on the 26th.
Paying a huge premium wouldn't make sense, you could just buy more S9s and consider them spares (while they mine of course Smiley). I really want to buy a higher quality product from a good distribution network, I'm hoping price is right and I'll put my order.
Problem is distributors will probably mark up the prices to higher than direct. From what I can tell they'll be around the $3000 mark or up which is pretty ridiculous even for a quality product. Hopefully Avalon and their distributors will change their minds about pricing.
2764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Verge (XVG) mining intensity and Hashrate (GTX1050) on: December 24, 2017, 11:45:23 PM
Temps? You're mining on a laptop which is pretty much the worst scenario you could be in for mining. I'm guessing it's the GPU being thermally throttled as it's probably running hot in a laptop.
2765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: inexpensive motherboards for mining on: December 24, 2017, 11:43:19 PM
Last board is definately interesting and theprice is right.

Are there any 8 gpu boards that are reliable?  I was thinking of doing 24 gpus and using 4 machines, but of course 3 machines would be better.  The reviews seem all mixed for 8 gpu boards though.

the ones  I used to build this are good.  not great but good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtnz9ip3o8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXukc1d39Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIG9oebnW0

RAM is DDR3 or DDr4 ?
and what is the CPU which you prefer ?
If the board being talked about is the ONDA board, it's a DDR4 motherboard. If it's a 1151 board, whatever you can find cheapest works. G3900s can be found nowadays on Aliexpress for ~$30 with shipping included. Delivery's a bit slow, but the Celeron and Pentium 1151 chips are very cheap.
2766  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 24, 2017, 11:39:57 PM
These machines are too fancy for mining , but do these last long ?
My bad experience tells me , if you get the original version with first hand quality , you can expect the bigger picture . Otherwise buying these always wrapped up with too much risks.
But in vain , risk taker wins the race. So , Good luck. Suggest me any good distributor of it , i will be glad . Thank you.
We have no idea right now but historically Avalon has always been on top with reliability and quality. They're one of the most reliable modern miners you can get right now. Still not worth paying a huge premium for the A8 still though imo.

If you're in the United States Blokforge is a legit distributor of miners. They're supposedly starting sales on the 26th.
2767  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 24, 2017, 09:33:39 PM
When does a ROI of more than a year ever make sense?

Especially on something as risky as a product that can swing a price range of 40% in 1 day?

This unit needs to be sub $2000
It doesn't. Avalon is simply following in the tracks of Bitmain and trying to get as much money as possible from these units ATM. When ROI gets above that point I simply skip the product. Anything less than a year is decent for me, anything over I don't consider.
2768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The day you realize you can use an S9 and L3+ to mine DigiByte for more profit on: December 24, 2017, 09:31:35 PM
Profitability on SHA coins swings extremely heavily. If you choose to stay on DGB monitor profitability. Same applies for Scrypt. I choose to stay on one main coin for that reason, a lot of work for a bit more coin by constantly switching.
2769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I want to build a LTC miner on: December 24, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
LTC is a Scrypt coin which has been cracked by ASICS, GPU MINING LTC is pointless since ASICs hash thousands of times faster than GPUs and are more efficient. You'll want to mine ZEC or ETH with 1080tis.
2770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash vs Calculator ? on: December 24, 2017, 09:27:26 PM
Nicehash's calculator gives you the current buying price for whatever kind of hashing you're trying to sell and then crunches the numbers. The network profitability may be lower or higher than what is on Nicehash, it doesn't have to be the same.
2771  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: making rigs with bitfury chips ? on: December 22, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
No. Only way I know of to get the Bitfury chips are directly from Bitmain, every other source is pretty much a scam except for a few companies which have made small amounts of Bitmain miners (see Hotmine). I hope you are aware of how incredibly difficult it is to design a miner and how much time it'll take. Even with advanced knowledge of ASICS and miners in general making miners by yourself is an extremely difficult task.
2772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2017, 02:23:55 PM
Anybody who sells into a massive drop like this needs their head looking at. Why would you sell now?
one thing:
margin calls

maybe thats what is this drop all about. sharks harvesting coins from margined longs.
Exactly what I was thinking. Sub 10k looks very likely now, I can always afford to hold for months or years though. No biggie for me. I have never sold in the years I’ve been in BTC and I won’t now.
2773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidea Titan V mining on: December 22, 2017, 01:39:04 AM
While this looks good for Volta so far we still have no idea how the GTX Volta series will perform. It’ll be interesting to see how the entire lineup performs mining-wise, we may have another 480/580 style shortage on our hands if they do well at mining.

2774  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Ebit e9 miner with 6.8Th/s from Ebang company a new rival for existing producers on: December 20, 2017, 01:11:42 AM
Hey guys. I need help with the E9.  I will give out rewards to who show me make that thing work. I got bitcoin, dash, ethereum, and litecoin.  I will really appreciate the help. I have been at it for almost 10 hours. I just can not get into it programing page.  I just can not connect to that thing.

Download Wireshark. Install it. Look at the ARP requests coming from an IP. Write down that IP. Change your computer to be on that same network. Connect to the IP. Change miner to DHCP.
You don't even need wireshark if you don't want to get on your computer, Fing/any network scanning app on a mobile device can do the same task. Do a scan without the miner on and do one with it on and find what new addresses popped up, test by connecting to the IP, and you should find the miner. Many popular miners used Texas Instruments controllers and my miners showed up as such on Fing. Not sure what sort of controllers the Ebits use though.

Also ensure your router is using 192.168 and not 10.0. The latter caused many issues for me with miners that were unresolved till I switched my network to the former address range.
2775  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 19, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
If the price is right these units will sell out pretty darn fast. I'm hoping it'll be competitively priced against the S9 which is in pretty crazy price territory right now. No complaints about specs otherwise, hoping it'll have the usual Avalon quality.
2776  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: December 19, 2017, 11:10:01 AM
There's still going to be people that buy miners at even this price. If it sells out in a day or so expect prices to jump higher. Bitmain's trying to take all the money they can right now by feeling how much people are willing to spend for a long term pre-order.
2777  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Doubles Price for S9 on: December 19, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Considering people are selling these units for $4000-5000 on the market right now, they still have space to jack up their prices. I'd highly suggest looking into Avalon units now. If Bitcoin hits a correction period temporarily these will be a bad buy, not worth looking at imo. Still funny how they put the price of these in BTC up next to the buy button but they don't even accept BTC for payment.
2778  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Do ASCI miners consume a lot of bandwidth? on: December 19, 2017, 01:12:39 AM
No. You can run a miner on satellite internet or even dial up, they use hardly any bandwidth and higher latency only increases stale shares. Ideally you just want a low latency connection, speed doesn't matter very much.
2779  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin future Difficulty level on: December 18, 2017, 06:28:37 PM

Hello Leowonderful,

Thank you for the new link relative to difficulty rates etc. When you stated a 19% increase, is that for the upcoming 2 week interval increase scheduled for 12-18-17? Do you know of any predicted difficulty models that are looking at say a 6 or 12 month average increase in difficulty rate going forward?

Thanks!
The one I was talking about was for the interval that just happened a couple hours ago. There aren't any longer term models that I know of, they probably wouldn't be of much use anyways since difficulty can go up and down based on things models can't calculate well anyways (actual chip production, price, etc).
2780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antpool 24 hour earnings are ZERO on: December 18, 2017, 01:53:18 PM
Antpoo is a shitty pool that pays significantly less than almost any other X11 pool anyways; there's a reason why most people on the forums mine elsewhere. Prohashing is one pool I can think of that supports X11. I still cannot fathom why people mine anything on Antpool to this day.
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