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2761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we are. on: June 28, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
is obv sloping up or down now?

The indicator I am watching is sloping down slightly, but it is darn near flat. By no means indicates that the price decline is sustainable.



yes, have you seen this? cheapest coins are getting more and more expensive as time goes on. Full on isometric triangle as far as I can tell
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245385.msg2601338#msg2601338
2762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Maybe I am the last bull... on: June 28, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
I am definitely a bull.  I guess I realize that BTC could very well drop back down to $60 or so again.  It is a wild ride for sure, but I don't want to risk selling to buy back again because I have learned the hard way that we really do not know when the price will go up, and then keep going up never to return to same low again!  It seems better just to buy and hold at this point, especially if I believe, which I strongly do, that bitcoin will be well over the high of $266 at some point down the road.

At some point soon!

bear capitulation necessary
2763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will reach $10,000 on: June 28, 2013, 08:13:48 PM
but I bet the stories of how I gave away 1 BTC casacius coins to friends will seem completely unbelievable.
they will say, Does not compute Cheesy

hopefully not "damn, should've kept that!"
2764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we are. on: June 28, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
is obv sloping up or down now?
2765  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can we say bubble pop? on: June 28, 2013, 08:07:34 PM
why, if interest rates are still super low. if they have to go up eventually, shouldn't that mean that the dollar will go up when interest rates go up?
2766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we are. on: June 28, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
how do you measure volume with so many different exchanges and with mtgox not behaving normally?
2767  Economy / Speculation / Re: Maybe I am the last bull... on: June 28, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
it's like we believe it's going to go up but know it's going to go down
2768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to buy BTC? on: June 28, 2013, 06:56:43 PM
Anything below $118 is a fantastic opportunity.
Timeframe?

Let me put it this way—as soon as people learn that they can get their money out of Gox, it will come flooding in.

I hate mtgox and what it does to this community. way too much influence for one site
2769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 28, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
How can I value gold when I don't even know how much there is in the world held by who
2770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fundamental analysis thread on: June 28, 2013, 07:09:56 AM
It may seem slow now looking forward, but I'd say going from a brand new currency four years ago to a $1.1 billion dollar market today is pretty damn impressive.  Yes, some bitcoin businesses are succeeding, others are failing.  That's totally normal.  Remember that something like 90% of businesses that are started fail, so this isn't any different than any different market.

Sort of irrelevant from your point, but from my entrepreneurship class the idea that an overwhelming majority of new business fail is actually a myth

Quote from: Donald F. Kuratko
It is true that many entrepreneurs suffer a number of failures before they are successful. They follow the adage "If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again." In fact, failure can teach many lessons to those willing to learn and often leads to future successes. This is clearly shown by the corridor principle, which states that with every venture launched, new and unintended opportunities often arise. The 3M Corporation invented Post-it notes using a glue that had not been strong enough for its intended use. Rather than throw away the glue, the company focused on finding another use for it and, in the process, developed a multimillion-dollar product. Yet, the statistics of entrepreneurial failure rates have been misleading over the years. In fact, one researcher, Bruce A. Kirchoff, has reported that the "high failure rate" most commonly accepted may be misleading. Tracing 814,000 busi­nesses started in 1977, Kirchoff found that more than 50 percent were still surviving under their original owners or new owners. Additionally, 28 percent voluntarily closed down, and only 18 percent actually "failed" in the sense of leaving behind outstanding liabilities. 12
2771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Slowing in the rate of decline on: June 28, 2013, 07:03:21 AM
I'm afraid I've lost my faith in Bitcoin. Somebody save me..

thats because you are reading the high price which is always volatile.. check out the monthly low price.. you will see there is a constant rise. the low price is more of the indicator of true value and growth indicators.. the high price is just pure speculation and should be ignored for long term investors

2772  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-06-27 AP: Man who extorted Mitt Romney for Bitcoins Endicted on: June 28, 2013, 05:05:31 AM
Shame that bitcoin gets all the bad press (extortion, drugs, money laundering).  Where's all the good press like charity drives and benefits of crypto currency?


https://www.smore.com/feux-sean-s-outpost

just donated a bitcoin to 'em Smiley
2773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thomas Jefferson would have loved Bitcoin! on: June 28, 2013, 04:30:58 AM
Very enlightening video.  It is a bit depressing though.  I guess it just shows us how things have not changed much, unfortunately.

It is a bit disconcerting thinking about what may happen.  I guess I am surprised the banks are not fighting BTC more then they already are? I suppose they do not see it as a very big threat yet?


It's because bit by bit they're losing control, I imagine. The sooner we agree not to do it their way, the quicker things change. The more and more people have to suffer,  the greater the effect that game theory (via streissand effect) exposes the scheme with the spread of ideas via technology in this day and age.
2774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 04:13:32 AM
^ Gox just put a full page ad in the g8 summit.

If they were "fucked" I doubt they'd spend the cash to do that. Unless you think something very significant changed in the past week.
I think it may have been a little to bold of a move.

Yes. They painted a target for the bankster-complex to aim at, not only on their backs, but on their faces too.

I absolutely abhor MtGox right now
2775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thomas Jefferson would have loved Bitcoin! on: June 28, 2013, 03:57:27 AM
I like this one a lot Smiley There's a lot of coverage on why Thomas Jefferson was so vehemently against private central banks

All Wars are Bankers' Wars
2776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Well we are back to the triple digits again on: June 28, 2013, 03:37:27 AM
It is frustrating though, isn't it?  Undecided
2777  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-06-25 Digital currency Bitcoin still valued on: June 28, 2013, 03:25:02 AM
When the media cries SELL...it is time to buy.

Same works in the opposite direction. PMs are on a nice dip...might be a good time to buy.

i haven't seen too many bearish articles lately
2778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 28, 2013, 03:09:51 AM
OK so Gold is collapsing, where is Bitcoin?

I really want to know what is going on in the dark pools. Are there any clues that someone is accumulating without us knowing? Was there any abnormal activity when the winklevossi bought their 1%? I know it wasn't until some long length of time after their purchase when they announced they owned their stake.
2779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 28, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
All y'all waiting for the mythical permanent backwardation of gold?

I am here to tell you that it is not going to happen. There may be a normal backwardation, but the New Austrian theories for permanent backwardation are predicated on gold being a special class of commodity with magical powers.

The reason that will not play out is that what we are actually seeing is gold reverting to an ordinary commodity with no magical powers. The investment demand is eroding, and what will be left is pricing based on regular supply and demand. This means that pricing will revert to mid 1990's levels adjusted for inflation. $400/oz gold and $6/oz silver.

I think we're just waiting for permanent backwardation of crypto Smiley  

On a side note, imagine what will happen when crypto are included in commercial futures contracts
2780  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: June 27, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
anyone remember
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