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2761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Telegram Casinos good or bad? on: November 04, 2023, 07:44:01 AM
I've never seen TG Casino so I've never tried it. But even though there is TG Casino, I might not want to try it, especially since there might be games I have never played. I still prefer to gamble directly at the casino because it is different from using a smartphone.

It may be a new trend, but I am not sure it can take off well because we already have many popular crypto casinos. People also use Telegram to communicate, especially since we know Telegram as a place for community gatherings.
2762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how to start betting on sports? on: November 04, 2023, 07:14:32 AM
You can visit cricket and football threads to get information about the matches that will take place to get information that can be used for your analysis and determine your choice of bet. This requires gathering a lot of information because it can help you analyze the bet, and you don't need to rush to place a bet. Make sure you can analyze it before you place a bet so that your bet has a chance of winning. The last thing is to make sure to bet with money you can only afford, especially if you are new to sports betting. Don't bet too big if you can't afford to lose, so you have to limit the amount of your bet.
2763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Nigerians spend $975m daily on online betting on: November 04, 2023, 06:45:22 AM
Nigeria is one of the top 50 poorest countries in the world, and yet they are spending so much money daily on gambling. It's not a sign of hope anymore; it's a lack of education about the risks involved in gambling. In a country with high poverty rates, gambling shouldn't be the solution to improve lives because it's usually the gambling sites that become rich, not the people. This isn't about blaming gambling sites, but they do make a lot of money when people in desperate situations try their luck in gambling. Eventually, these individuals might become addicted and rely on gambling, which means money keeps flowing to the gambling sites.
It may also be due to a lack of education. Still, they may also often see several people succeeding in winning from gambling, so this will indirectly influence their minds to keep trying even if they lose. With a low poverty rate, they will try to make money from anywhere, even from gambling, so it will probably increase the poverty percentage even higher than before. If they realize that what they need to do is work to make money and not gamble, they might have a better chance of making money. But it seems that the available job opportunities are insufficient for the number of people who want to look for work. This requires serious attention from the government so they can find a solution.
2764  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: November 04, 2023, 06:22:21 AM
If this kind of tricks really works then many gambler would have been involved in raising their bet stake in the pursuit for winning opportuinity, what we use as stake doesn't matter lime how we play safe and the level of risk we take in the kind of bet we are going for, we are not to first make analysis of what we are going to win if we make double of our betting stake because we cannot predict the outcome untill the final result is out.
But if they keep forcing themselves to place even bigger bets in the hope that they can win a lot of money, it won't always work out the way they expect. They have the possibility of experiencing bigger losses and will not realize that they have lost a lot of money. And if they keep hiding their gambling activities while they don't have good self-control, they will get deeper into gambling without anyone knowing. That is risky for them because they could develop a gambling addiction without anyone knowing.
2765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 04, 2023, 05:56:33 AM
And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.
However, someone who has started gambling but does not have self-control can fall deeper into gambling and they will experience the bad effects that are greater than the good effects. But maybe they won't see the bad effects getting bigger because they have fun gambling and gamble more often because of the fun factor they get. In gambling, if they cannot take care of themselves, they will experience the bad effects of gambling and when it gets bigger, it is only a matter of time until they finally experience bigger losses. The risk of losing money will also be greater than they imagine because more losses will make them lose more money.

They should be able to realize it before it's too late so they can start reducing their gambling activities because otherwise, it will get bigger. They will be too late to reduce their gambling activities because they will get deeper into gambling. It is better to prevent it before it happens than to treat it, which will be much more difficult because our thoughts will be difficult to change, especially if we are already addicted to gambling. It will require even harder efforts to make us realize that we have made a fatal mistake in this life.
2766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: November 04, 2023, 05:21:15 AM
I think anything for survival beyond the age of active service is somehow not good. There is a reason for the retirement age and it is not far from the need to rest the body and brain to be able to live longer. So, I don't see why someone should be actively gambling beyond sixty years.

I even see gambling as something for the youths and I don't really feel comfortable seeing those who are supposed to be retired from active service, still lining up in gambling shops. It makes me scared as I picture myself in that situation which I presume to be a failed life even if it might not be true. I will not do that anyways because by that age, I should have establish a good business empire that will be managed by my children while I watch from behind.
Those over the age of sixty who continue to gamble may want to continue to experience the thrill of gambling but they should remember that as time goes by, their health will also decline and they cannot expect to have the same health as when they were younger. But they have their reasons for continuing to gamble and still queue at the gambling shop because they think that gambling can give them great wealth if they win but they cannot win easily. What we worry about is if they will spend all their savings where they will not be able to survive if they don't have the money they have saved. We should have an age limit to start leaving gambling and enjoying old age with our family so that we can be calm in old age.

Chase the world is endless and gambling is just a games full of risks. If we decide not to gamblers in old age, it is better for us now to use gambling wisely and not use it too often because our age will increase if we cannot manage our finances now how will we manage our finances in old age.
Having a harmonious and healthy family is everyone dream by having close and add more healthy relationships without any bad actions regarding that gambling.
We should be able to realize that chasing the world will not be fulfilling because the world will change and we will not be able to keep up because we will never be young again. Those of us who are old will be replaced by the young so that we will not be able to compete with them and will only be spectators. Those of us who are getting older must think about leaving gambling one day so that from now on, we will be able to reduce our gambling activities. Moreover, we don't have a big chance of winning much money apart from just losing more money from gambling. If we can reduce gambling activities from now on, when we get older, we will be able to quit gambling. There will be no hard feelings about leaving gambling because we are satisfied with gambling and it is time to enjoy life in old age with our family.
2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 04, 2023, 04:40:38 AM
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.
So it is because of their greed that causes them to continue gambling without the self-control that should be required in gambling. If they continue to gamble, especially because of their greed, gradually they will become addicted to gambling. When that happens, they will not be able to stop it easily because all they can think about is gambling. These people will only care about gambling rather than doing other things because they like gambling more and more and only want to gamble.

If they chase their winnings, they will not be able to win easily and the more often they gamble, the greater the risk of losing their money. That is why they must be aware of the potential for greed to become greater and also the potential for experiencing gambling addiction will become greater.
2768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: November 04, 2023, 04:12:50 AM
I don't see anything inbuilt about gambling, all we have to do is to make sure that we don't bet too regularly. Gambling is not something we tell people around just to show off what we had made so far from it. We need to keep things personal and don't allow unnecessary things to affect our gambling lifestyle. We need to try as much to gamble like a professional that we tend to be not just anyhow. The more we gamble, the more we can understand about what gambling is all about. Making profits as a gambler can sometimes be more of luck and you will need to do some findings to know some kind games that frequently gives you profits.
But if you gamble frequently, you really have to have self-control because, without self-control, you will only get into gambling problems. Something inherent in gambling, such as the desire to win, is within every gambler and only wise gamblers will not think too much about winning because they know that winning will not be easy. We really have to gamble responsibly, especially if we gamble regularly so it requires more self-control. Gamblers can indeed win from gambling but they also have to realize that it will not be easy so they don't need to try hard to get it. Maybe they can try it in skill-based gambling games so they can continue to hone their skills to win even though they still rely on luck.
2769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: November 03, 2023, 02:27:32 PM
interesting how each human works because gambling in a moment of stress is not a good idea for me.

This is hard to say, because their emotion can be change within a minutes . For some people, if they are getting stressed, playing a gamble can be a solution for him. But, they are need to make sure they are will accept anything including losing, Because any lose will be made his stressed more hard.

Yes, it's true, in some cases playing gambling can relieve fatigue and boredom, but it can also increase stress if it turns out we lose and are not ready to face the loses. Gambling is an activity that can relieve stress and also cause stress

When we are not ready to lose or are not willing to spend money on gambling then we will try to chase losses, situations like this often result in us ending up with more losses and spending more money on gambling.
Chasing losses in gambling is really foolish. Financial struggle is a common consequence of gambling addiction where winning is hard losing is easy. Because addiction usually doesn't fix you after winning. He wants to move closer to winning thereby increasing the chances of losing. Besides spending more money giving up gambling is not as easy as it seems for an addicted gambler. Problem gamblers often experience intense cravings and withdrawal symptoms when trying to quit. The cycle of addiction reinforced by the brain's reward system makes breaking free from the grip of gambling challenging.
Recovering losses is not recommended for all gamblers because they can increase the number of losses even more. If we do not follow the limits we have set instead of continuing to gamble, it means we must be prepared for everything we will face. We also have to be able to overcome the frustration and stress that we will get from losing from gambling so that we don't have the desire to try to recover from that loss. If we spend a lot of money but still want to recover the losses, we can often lose a lot of money at the gambling table. And that will create other problems where we can experience gambling addiction. Slot games can cause a person to experience prolonged frustration and stress, especially if he cannot stop gambling after experiencing a lot of losses.
2770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 03, 2023, 01:55:39 PM
I like to talk about the negative side of gambling because people will always gamble as gambling is in the nature of humans, so we that had seen the good and the bad side of gambling will prefer to let newbies and addicted people know that gambling addiction is not good at all and that is why we talked more about the negative side.
The author of the post already clarified that negative effect of gambling has dominated discussion here and he suggesting we also look at the positive health benefit. Dwelling on the negative effect might suggest that there are not positive health benefit. If we want to go that lane, what about the hope that gambling gives? What about the joy of winning? Are these not things that can improve health condition? Most people that suffer depression are actually despondent. Gambling removes this tendency and also improve our ability to absorb shocking news. There are several other positive sides of gambling as you can already see from the discussions here.
Winning can indeed improve your health condition, but don't forget that winning is not easy and many people have failed and only lost so much that they become frustrated. The positive side of gambling may be able to give us something so that we can focus on gambling, but when compared to the negative side of gambling, there may be more negative sides than positive sides. We have to know what the negative and positive sides are so that we can think about whether there are benefits from gambling or whether it will only provide negative sides for us. And if there is no benefit, we don't need to gamble too often or even use gambling as entertainment. It will eliminate the negative side of gambling because we will look for other ways to get pleasure.
2771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: November 03, 2023, 12:47:59 PM
By the way, I feel that slot games are the most difficult games available on the gambling site where one can win. Even the Dice, Roulette and Crash are the games that the new gamblers should play initially and once they become comfortable with those games, they can go for the slots games. However, as the gambling sites advertise slot games more than any other feature on their sites, the new gamblers usually jump in to the slot games as soon as they make an account on the site.
Yes, you are right, because slot games really require luck to win. We may be able to win but only a small amount of money and it is really difficult to win a large amount of money, especially if we use small bets because we need luck. Many people started playing gambling because they saw the many gambling advertisements showing slot games, so it made them curious and wanted to know what it was like to gamble, especially playing slot games.

For a new gambler, self control will come as he keeps on playing and experience the different phases of gambling, the results and his changing moods. If he has an intent to not over spend on gambling, he will gain self control over the passage of time. No big deal but if money is not as issue for the gambler, then for sure he will keep spending, keep losing and eventually become a perfect addicted gambler.  Sad
New gamblers don't know much about self-control so they will be more easily tempted to continue gambling. They may spend some money before they realize that gambling requires self-control. Although money is not a problem for gamblers, they really have to limit their gambling games because otherwise, they will lose more money and may even spend all their money. And the problem will be even bigger because they can become addicted to gambling and still won't realize it. Beginner gamblers really need to pay attention to this so that they can learn about self-control so that they can prevent themselves from experiencing gambling problems, especially gambling addiction.
2772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Nigerians spend $975m daily on online betting on: November 03, 2023, 12:24:31 PM
It seems like gambling is still a hope for people in Nigeria so they use gambling to make money. But I think it's not just people from Nigeria but also people from other countries who still use gambling to make money. They still believe that they can make money from gambling so they still try. But if they realize that it will never be easy and they will experience more and more losses, they should not try so hard and try to win the gambling game. The news about people winning from gambling makes them think that they can also win their gambling games. But we don't know whether they still rely on gambling to survive but they shouldn't because they will only experience defeat and lose their money.
2773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings. on: November 03, 2023, 11:51:48 AM
If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.
2774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 03, 2023, 11:20:35 AM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.
2775  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: November 03, 2023, 10:45:07 AM
Interesting fact, but when I bet small amounts I think much more clearly and my results are much better in betting, but when I try to raise the bets then mistakes follow, this is also worth considering when you play, look for your comfortable level.
It happens to many gamblers that they experience losses when they raise their bets and it seems that it is because their minds are occupied by the thought of how much winning money they will get if they win. And it is natural when there are gamblers who think about that because greed will come to them and want to win that win. But what happens is that they will experience loss because gambling is not a place to make money. And we indeed have to be able to search and find our comfort level so we don't experience too many losses.
2776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: November 03, 2023, 10:25:36 AM
Gamblers need to accept that just because someone else can get great results while they gamble, this does not really mean they can obtain the same results as well, as whether those results are the results of their skill or simply because they were lucky there is no way for us to duplicate them.

And while it is interesting to read the stories of success other gamblers can enjoy I know that I will never obtain those results, since quite honestly the amount of money I use to gamble is very low compared to what I see other gamblers using.
That's very true because each person's luck in gambling is not the same, so they have to realize that they don't need to try too hard when gambling. If they only gamble moderately and don't chase wins, they won't experience bigger losses so they won't lose a lot of money.

Reading success stories from other gamblers gives curiosity so that if someone cannot control himself, he might become interested in trying gambling and seeing his luck. This will be a risk if it is not accompanied by good self-control because he could experience gambling addiction problems.
2777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: November 03, 2023, 09:48:09 AM
Gambling can have an immediate effect on family relationships, as it can cause internal problems and often breaks trust between family members. Problems such as loss of extra money, loss of social status etc. can arise during gambling, which can have a negative impact on family relationships. Moreover, when someone in a family loses extra money gambling and other family members find out, it can break down valuable family relationships. However, the circumstances of this problem may be different and the attitude and nature of each family may be different. Buying or playing gambling for your family members can become a public question, so it can be valuable when you are faced with such problems. That means it can vary from person to person and affect each person's life in different ways.
The problem will arise if a gambler does not pay attention to himself when he is gambling. It will cause problem after problem that he may need to be made aware of. And if the problem becomes widespread, it will harm him and the people around him so their relationship will become bad. When someone gambles excessively, he can use money that should be used for his family. It will disrupt his family's financial position, and his family will not be able to meet his daily living needs. So if someone cannot be responsible with his gambling, he can damage his relationships with his family and also the people around him. This is what we have to realize as gamblers so that we don't gamble excessively, where we have to be able to avoid problems that our families can experience.
2778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: November 03, 2023, 09:23:43 AM
because of this, to avoid negative things that might happen, it would be wiser if parents did not gamble in front of their children.
Every parent should not practice any forbidden thing in front of their child. But it is very sad that most guardians in my country practice harmful habits like alcohol, gambling, and smoking in front of their children. By doing this, children later try to master these habits of their parents by following them. Every parent as a guardian should not practice any forbidden bad habits in front of their children so that children do not acquire these harmful habits.
Yes, that's because they think it's okay to do it in front of children and don't think about the impact on their mental health. There is a tendency for today's children to imitate what their parents do when they see these things more often and start doing it without their parents realizing it. And if there is no supervision from their parents, their children feel free to imitate what they have seen so that they feel that it is normal to do what they see. And if it is left unchecked, it can have an impact that may extend to their children's lives and carry over into their future.
2779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: November 03, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
In general, those who succeed in controlling themselves are usually trained people. in other words, they have become part of the professional gamblers. They have been equipped with various knowledge specifically about gambling, especially what I know for professional gamblers in the field of poker. As for successful gamblers, they are not necessarily professionals. Also, it is not certain that successful gamblers are truly able to control themselves when gambling. Let's take an example, for example, someone recklessly gambles and risks all the money they have. Uniquely, they succeeded in winning their bets and became very rich. However, the meaning of the word success has a broad definition. Usually, success is attributed to success in certain fields. can do business, trade, or anything like that.

Well, what's interesting about this thread is what defines success in gambling. whether it is in professional gamblers. or,. because for me, the title of this thread is a little ambiguous.
As for what you said in this post, perhaps there are gamblers who are successful because they are able to control themselves when carrying out gambling sessions. It could also be that they are more aware and alert to things that can have an impact on addiction. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as what we say or even discuss. Success in gambling has a slightly biased definition. In my opinion, even if so, the impact of addiction always has the potential for everyone who enjoys this hobby. But this will be different for professional gamblers, who have been equipped with the special knowledge and skills they have learned. that's why, there are more amateur gamblers than professionals. So, in principle, we can find out and learn so that we don't get addicted. In principle, the meaning of this thread refers to gambling addiction.
If those who have not been trained are willing to continue learning to control themselves, they also have the opportunity to master good self-control because they can have it. It is only a matter of time before they can truly master self-control, and even though it may take longer, it is still worth doing because it is all for their own good. They can control themselves while gambling because all people or professionals who already have self-control also start from the beginning they continue to practice it until they get used to it. And even those who have mastered it can still lose self-control while they gamble because the temptation to gamble will get bigger and they can end up losing self-control.

Of course, they are more aware and alert to things that can have an impact on gambling addiction so they still try to control themselves and don't want to experience the problems that many gamblers have faced. They know that once they are addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to cure it so they really try hard to take care of themselves while gambling. Professional gamblers are indeed better able to protect themselves when playing gambling because they have more ability, knowledge, and skills than most gamblers so they can still survive and prevent gambling addiction from happening to them.

It is true that it is difficult to get a big win even I can make sure there will not be a big win that they can get because basically gambling has been arranged by insiders where gambling is created to make money for the company not to give money to the players. Although there are some people who consider it as entertainment but more people who make the main presence for them so that they can sacrifice all their money and property for gambling, all of that is useless if there is no luck that leads to them. With greed they can spend all the money they have even when they win if greed appears the victory will not last long. It is true that you said that they must understand the awareness not to chase victory in total.
It doesn't take an insider to realize that in gambling, our chances of winning will not be greater than in a casino because the casino is the one that owns the business, and they are the ones who will get the most wins or profits. We as ordinary gamblers, can only enjoy gambling as we should without any thought of winning a lot of money. And if we win, we should consider it as a bonus from the casino and after that, we should be able to stop gambling because the results may not be what we want. And yes, we will only become more greedy if we continue gambling after getting that win to use up all our money.

Yes it is. but only a few people can do that, most of what I see when they win they don't stop but continue playing by increasing the value of the bet bigger. The risk that they will get may lose all their winnings that have been obtained and return to having no money and repeating the game from the beginning continues like that until there is no end. It's important to know that you're not going to be able to get the most out of the game if you don't have a lot of time to play. But it's hard to beat a machine that has been set up, and there is also no pattern or trick to beat the bookie because there are no rules, the bookie will experience defeat and big losses. So only luck will favor someone when gambling the rest they must be able to control themselves so as not to fall deeper into gambling. I myself only play on my weekends of course with the aim of entertainment but if the feeling of wanting to win is definitely there, because everyone must want a big profit hahaha.
I also see a tendency towards this where gamblers who have won do not realize that they will not be able to win easily in the next round but still force themselves to gamble even until their money runs out. A wise gambler will not continue gambling if they see that they have no chance of winning and they will prefer to stop gambling and continue it another day. It will be better for him because he can prevent himself from getting addicted to gambling and losing more money if we force him to continue gambling. We cannot beat gambling machines, but we can control ourselves so that we don't lose too much and that is the job of every gambler so that they don't lose too much and can avoid problems that will arise later. When they become addicted to gambling, it means other problems will arise and it can disrupt their life if they cannot realize their gambling addiction.
2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 03, 2023, 08:23:03 AM
Well basically maybe like you said it depends on each individual in response to his record, whether they will try to return the loss or vice versa by acting more carefully to reduce the number of losses along with always taking precautions. And on the other hand this problem is really beyond our control, maybe I hope they can read our discussion, nothing but just to be taken into consideration so that their gambling involvement does not get worse in the future.

If they are completely familiar with gambling along with luck then yes as I said before there is no reason at all to put greed in their gambling, because I'm sure they will worry if the final result is not in accordance with what they expect. So with this they will be able to apply the statement that "it is better to prevent than to cure" and also yes maybe they won't be
By being careful, we can see what will have a good and bad impact on our lives, so if we see that gambling has a bad impact on us, it is better for us to avoid it and start gambling less. It will also affect our gambling records if we record them so that we can see any changes in our lives, especially in the use of money for gambling. We ourselves must reduce our involvement in gambling so that later, we will not experience regret when we see that we have used too much money to gamble. We also better regulate the use of money or the allocation of money that should be used for gambling. We will not try to deposit more because that will potentially increase the amount of losses we will incur from gambling.

We also will not be easily tempted by greed which will continue to tell us to continue gambling because we will only use gambling as entertainment. And it's true what you say that "prevention is better than cure" because if we already have a gambling problem, it won't be easy to treat it.
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