Are you stupid or unable to read? Let's try one more time:
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
The Creator of all saw that it was good, so who are you little man, to dictate what is good and what is not.
Re-dictate. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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3-D printers for the Chinese people. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The stock market is 70% overvalued ... crash now inevitable![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F693-0927072750-stock-market.jpg&t=663&c=X4jBXJBCqZ-Rhg) Author Charles Dickens' classic, A Tale of Two Cities, begins this way: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness ... ."
According to one stock market analytical firm, GMO, today's market behavior resembles Dickens' book, which was published in 1859 and was set during the time of the French Revolution some seven decades earlier.
As the firm noted, in recent days much of the investing and financial world was focused on a meeting in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, attended by Federal Reserve chairperson Janet Yellen. But GMO analysts were watching other things and events happening in the market.
In August, the firm noted in its monthly report – reproduced in part by Zero Hedge – that Shiller P/E, a respected metric for measuring U.S. equities valuation, surpassed 27. Given that normally its range is somewhere slightly above 16, it appears that valuations are looking a bit larger than they should be.
What's more, GMO noted, the last time the Shiller P/E was above 27 was in October 2007, "and we all know how that movie ended," the GMO report said.
'A tale of mediocrity, at best'
And though no one at the analytical firm is saying that the nation and the world are set to experience another Great Recession and near-meltdown of the global economic order – and nothing is written in stone saying that stocks are not allowed to become more expensive – "we continue to maintain our bias against U.S. stocks," the firm said in its report.
At the same time, the firm said, it was tracking a widening disconnect between fundamentals of the U.S. economy, corporate America and their stocks. "It really is a tale of two cities," the analytics firms said, "one of mediocre fundamentals versus a meteoric rise in markets."
In assembling some relevant metrics pertaining to the overall health of the economy and some top-line/bottom-line figures from the S&P 500 index, the firm looked at gross domestic product growth, productivity and household income, in addition to some others like revenue and earnings for U.S. stocks, just to round out the assessment.
"It is a tale of mediocrity, at best," the firm wrote in its report.
After that, analysts contrasted those metrics with actual market returns of the S&P 500 Index spanning the past five years. "Truly meteoric," the firm wrote, adding this caveat: "As an aside, we at GMO have always been leery of drawing too many investment conclusions from staring at economic data–we are more valuation-oriented, after all–but even we are struck by the divergence." Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/055447_stock_market_crash_bubble_economy_Wall_Street.html.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The God of the bible is an idiot. Created the plants before the sun. Didn't know that the moon isn't a light and so on Sounds like a iron age sheep hearder made this bull up.. Oh whait. They did
But it worked for God. You and I can't even hang onto our own lives in the face of strong disaster... to say nothing about not being able to create anything other than some abstract silliness. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So why did he think the moon is a light if he is all knowing? Sounds more like iron age mind set he created the thing, and don't even know what it is? Just so that you know something... You don't know what God thinks. The evidence for this is that you don't know much of anything else, either. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So far it looks like he doesn't think. The moon is a light ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The guy must be braindead or made up from a iron age brain ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) How much does the moon weigh? The moon isn't a light. It's a "heavy." ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The God of the bible is an idiot. Created the plants before the sun. Didn't know that the moon isn't a light and so on Sounds like a iron age sheep hearder made this bull up.. Oh whait. They did
But it worked for God. You and I can't even hang onto our own lives in the face of strong disaster... to say nothing about not being able to create anything other than some abstract silliness. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So why did he think the moon is a light if he is all knowing? Sounds more like iron age mind set he created the thing, and don't even know what it is? Just so that you know something... You don't know what God thinks. The evidence for this is that you don't know much of anything else, either. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Okay. Who's the king? And do they have any kids? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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i choose my life money can back easily but your life not
There is a saying that if you change the freedom to life, you will lose this and that. For your money and for the freedom to fight. But one needs to consider that the two greatest killers of mankind are old age and other people. If we got rid of these two, the money thing wouldn't be a problem. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Having a gun is really not a must unless you're a police or in a military force. I just can't imagine why most of the people specially those who have money and connections need a gun, for what purposes do they need it? For self protection? I don't think so. Most of the people having a gun nowadays is not just using it for self protection basis only instead they are using it for them to be fear by other and the most unwanted thing that can happen when someone have a gun is that he might use it for shooting someone just because he have a grudge on someone or he can use it for illegal use, I mean those people who have a license on carrying a gun something like that even though they are not in the military or something. It's also true that many people nowadays have guns in an illegal way that is mostly being use in a bank robbery, killing innocent people and etc.
Having guns is a MUST. The threat of people having guns is part of what keeps cops and the military in line. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) EDIT: Robbing banks and killing innocent people is unlawful. But if there isn't any statute or code against it, it might not be illegal. Is there such statute or code? For example. Cops are not illegal when they kill innocent people. If they were, they would wind up in prison or executed. The reason that they are safe from punishment is that people try to prosecute them for doing something illegal. But there isn't any statute or code against them killing innocent people, so they are not doing anything illegal, and you can't win in prosecution for them doing something illegal. On the other hand, if folks would prosecute them for doing something unlawful, even the cops would be in prison. But as it stands, the people don't even know the difference between illegal and unlawful.
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I love when criminals get shot by people protecting themselves. Like that restaurant manager this week, killed one of three robbers. So I'm all for guns, the problem is that for every story like that, there are more people who kill someone accidentally, or because of a fit or rage that would have just simply passed by. Other than that, we still need it for those who did end up protecting themselves.
The problem with unsafe, accidental shootings is that people don't practice safety. The reason they don't practice safety is that guns are not the accepted standard as they once were. If guns in the hands of all people were the standard, there would be much more gun safety after a hundred years of it. So, lets all get more guns, and wear them open carry all over the place, so that we make gun safety the priority in life. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Personally I don't think it matters how knowledgeable of gun safety people are, all it takes if for one really stress out person to lose it and shoot someone in a moment of anger. You mean like the cops? Who often do it for nothing? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The more I think about it, the more I see that God created everything tame and domesticated, under the complete control of mankind. Then sin came, and many (most?) things turned wild. As usual, science has it backward. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Not sure I would agree in with the underlined part. We are told God's first instructions to man are "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:" Subdue implies a process dominion yes but not necessarily without effort. I would agree. Too strong of a statement. We can't even kill all the plants and animals off. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also relevant is that in the Garden of Eden man was told that he was to eat from every herb bearing seed upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed. It was only after he had sinned was he told that he would eat the herb of the field. Fruits became corrupted. Today we see this. Not only do they spoil easily and quickly, but they do not have some of the nutrients that are necessary for life. Vegetables fill the difference. They are hearty, and do not spoil so easily. In addition, even though they often need cooking before people can stomach them, they have nutrients not found in the fruit. Who or what were the vegetables for in pre-sin times? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Taxes. You can use Bitcoin to buy and sell all you want. But if you are a business, you have to pay your taxes on Bitcoin as well as fiat. So, might as well use fiat. Why waste time with all the extra record-keeping that you would need for Bitcoin. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Fun stuff. And fun stuff is, well, just that... fun stuff. But this fun stuff seeks to avoid the questions of where it all came from. Probability math shows us that evolution is impossible beyond any hint of a possibility. So, where did everything come from? especially life, which is extremely complex? Whomever or Whatever made all this universe is still the question. And with that question, no answers are really found in this "alternative" thread. Only more questions. Cause and effect, complexity and entropy still prove God. But even if they didn't, nature shows God. So, we are right back at the same point as before. Darwinism is a failure, and God is the Ruler of the universe. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) i completely disagree with you.. nobody can know who is the ruler of the whole universe. none of the scientist or any religious books can prove whether there is a god or not. i hope somebody will prove the existence of god scientifically .After that, we can believe in god. The proof of the existence of God is right in front of you. It is called nature. Nature is made up of machines that are inside the gigantic machine of nature. In fact, all our machines come from the example of the greater machines of nature. Machines need builders. The Builder of nature fits our definitions of the word "God." Science also proves God. Everything operates by cause and effect. We see nothing other than cause and effect in all nature. Who started the causes? What was the Great First Cause? After all, there was a beginning. There had to have been. If there wasn't, entropy would have dissolved all complexity into a "blob" of sameness in all things long ago. So, the high complexity in the universe shows not only that there was a beginning, but that the beginning must have been extremely complex in Itself to have made all the complexity in the universe in the face of entropy. Cause and effect show that God rules the universe through cause and effect if no other way. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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yes being muslim i fully believe on Allah, He is the creator of all the world and every one has to return to him after death and after that every one has to answer to Him about all of his dead and Allah will reward them for their good deeds or will punish them for their wrong deeds.
The funny thing about Muslims is, if they translate the Koran into English, they don't translate the word "Allah." If they did, you would never see "Allah." You would only see "God." In Arabic short and sweet for "God" is AL. In Hebrew short and sweet for "God" is EL. If you really want to fly into the heavens > go with EL-AL. Therefore, if you believe in Allah, you definitely believe in El too. They are practically the very best brother Gods, although, don't forget both of them are only ONE. The difference is that the Hebrew people don't go around saying God's name. In fact, they even skew the word "God" into things like G-d, or whatever, just to avoid somehow accidentally taking God's name in vain... even though "God" is not really His name. Muslims are different. They not only use their God's name in their language in everything that they do, but they won't even translate their word for "God" (Allah) into "God" when they translate into English. The point? Since the Muslims do it exactly the opposite of the Hebrews, why would anyone think that they are the same "God?" ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) They are both the same imaginary god. Complex science and simple nature show the opposite. Both are a witness that God is not only real, but that He is extremely powerful beyond understanding and belief (in most people). However, God is a strange being as far as we are concerned. He doesn't need anybody to believe Him. Rather, we need to believe Him to gain eternal life. God's strangeness lies in the fact that He doesn't simply want you to believe. He wants you to believe with the right attitude. So, stay in your damned position until you can figure out how to believe Him the way He wants you to believe. I'll be damned very far beyond eternity if Beginning-Wonderful-Ending doesn't believe in me the way I love Her. I've been told what I already knew: I have to believe with love. One problem with your thinking. "Father" is associated with masculinity. And the Creator God is a Father because He Fathers creation. Certainly He has a woman's understanding within Himself, just like He has a Man's. But He is associated with Father, not Mother or Woman. Please, for your own sake, do not go too far from what He says about Himself. If you go too far, you will be building a false god for yourself, and He will cast you out for not believing Him. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Yeah, you can't associate power with women. You start associating god with bitches and they'll get to uppity. Burn the witch! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_2ZXSsLYde8U%2FTS4ogypuoAI%2FAAAAAAAAEGo%2FjkQ_hPOZgaU%2Fs1600%2FWitch%252BBurning.jpg&t=663&c=r9s7IDN2aaWGaw) That's not nice! Can't you think of a more humane and less painful way to get rid of them? What about the guillotine... fast and to the point(edge?). ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Nope, I believe the God Fearin Christian way is best. It's worked for thousands of years. There's no reason to change a winning recipe. I might abide a good stoning but I'm not a very accurate pitcher. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.islamophobiatoday.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2FSyria_Stoning_Fake.jpg&t=663&c=lDSpmJi8FDR2kQ) Actually, they humiliated the people they tortured by torturing them naked. This made the torture all the stronger. so, your picture is... wrong! Since you are against authority, why in the world would you ever want to do the same thing that those in authority did? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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How many years we have been told that mankind was on the moon. But recently things have changed. Why 40 years and no one is flying to the moon, it's not expensive to fly. It seems to me that something was indeed found there, and that there are concerns.
There probably is something there. The Revelation in the Bible tells about the great dragon - the devil, Satan - and his angels/demons being flung to the earth. If they were sent to the earth so they couldn't get back up there, they must have left some evidence of themselves behind. The New Testament tells us that the world is under the control of the devil... except for the people who believe in Jesus salvation, that is. The devil is trying to get back into the "sky" to retrieve some of his forces and equipment that are still up there. This is why we have a space program. It is also why there is a flat earth propaganda program. The devil wants to get back to some of his equipment up there, to try to re-ignite the war with God, and maybe win this time. He is using mankind to do it for him, in the form of NASA and some of the space programs of the other countries. But, he doesn't want all of mankind to know about his equipment up there. So, he is creating the flat earth propaganda machine to hide the fact of space, so that his equipment will remain as completely hidden as possible. NASA will still go to the moon and beyond. They will still retrieve the devil's weapons for him. It's just that the majority of us will never know it once flat earth becomes the popular thing. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Do you even read GOD's Word? Apparently not. Too busy posting here. It clearly states that moon is a light. Not an object you could land on. Get sober man. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Do you even read what your post says rather than reading into it what you want? The parts of Genesis you quoted say nothing about the sun and the moon. Other places in Scripture suggest that this is talking about God the Father and Jesus. The moon is a light, and now we know how it works. The sun is a light as well, and now we know that it works through electric plasma. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) If you know how the sun works, but it still kills you tomorrow, what is the use of it? ( and how good do you know it ). I know that if a person don't get food and water, that person will die sooner or later - though - it seems unfair to claim great human knowlege because of that Generally speaking, gaining food comes by planting and harvesting, and water by digging a well or filling your jug at the river. It generally doesn't have anything to do with rocket science. Some of the knowledge about the sun comes through rocket science, because rockets have been used to send out probes that have gathered more information about the sun than we can get directly by observation from here on earth. If you eat the wrong food, or if the food is spoiled, or if the water you drink is poisoned, or if it has bad microbes in it, you can die from food and water. Improperly built rockets can kill people as well. Few people die from the sun, because most know that they need to take enough water along with them through the desert. What are you talking about? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Atleast you're sure to keep your sunglasses on ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Sunglasses are a wise thing at times. The sun is very bright. As people get older, cataracts form in their eyes if the pupils in their eyes lose some of their sensitivity. Cataracts are protection for the sensitive nerves of the retina if the pupils don't limit the light properly. Sunglasses can keep cataracts from forming as rapidly. This means that older people will not have such "thick" cataracts, and they will be able to see in the dark better. So, sunglasses are a good thing. What do sunglasses have to do with rocket science? Why did you bring it up? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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yes being muslim i fully believe on Allah, He is the creator of all the world and every one has to return to him after death and after that every one has to answer to Him about all of his dead and Allah will reward them for their good deeds or will punish them for their wrong deeds.
The funny thing about Muslims is, if they translate the Koran into English, they don't translate the word "Allah." If they did, you would never see "Allah." You would only see "God." In Arabic short and sweet for "God" is AL. In Hebrew short and sweet for "God" is EL. If you really want to fly into the heavens > go with EL-AL. Therefore, if you believe in Allah, you definitely believe in El too. They are practically the very best brother Gods, although, don't forget both of them are only ONE. The difference is that the Hebrew people don't go around saying God's name. In fact, they even skew the word "God" into things like G-d, or whatever, just to avoid somehow accidentally taking God's name in vain... even though "God" is not really His name. Muslims are different. They not only use their God's name in their language in everything that they do, but they won't even translate their word for "God" (Allah) into "God" when they translate into English. The point? Since the Muslims do it exactly the opposite of the Hebrews, why would anyone think that they are the same "God?" ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) They are both the same imaginary god. Complex science and simple nature show the opposite. Both are a witness that God is not only real, but that He is extremely powerful beyond understanding and belief (in most people). However, God is a strange being as far as we are concerned. He doesn't need anybody to believe Him. Rather, we need to believe Him to gain eternal life. God's strangeness lies in the fact that He doesn't simply want you to believe. He wants you to believe with the right attitude. So, stay in your damned position until you can figure out how to believe Him the way He wants you to believe. I'll be damned very far beyond eternity if Beginning-Wonderful-Ending doesn't believe in me the way I love Her. I've been told what I already knew: I have to believe with love. One problem with your thinking. "Father" is associated with masculinity. And the Creator God is a Father because He Fathers creation. Certainly He has a woman's understanding within Himself, just like He has a Man's. But He is associated with Father, not Mother or Woman. Please, for your own sake, do not go too far from what He says about Himself. If you go too far, you will be building a false god for yourself, and He will cast you out for not believing Him. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Yeah, you can't associate power with women. You start associating god with bitches and they'll get to uppity. Burn the witch! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_2ZXSsLYde8U%2FTS4ogypuoAI%2FAAAAAAAAEGo%2FjkQ_hPOZgaU%2Fs1600%2FWitch%252BBurning.jpg&t=663&c=r9s7IDN2aaWGaw) That's not nice! Can't you think of a more humane and less painful way to get rid of them? What about the guillotine... fast and to the point(edge?). ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I believe that weapons should not be available for sale. It is bad when it may even buy children. The government should prohibit the free carrying of weapons
What do you want to achieve? Prohibit free carrying of weapons won't stop terror or crime. Yes, but don't we need gun control to help keep the population down? If you check the records of the 20th century (the 1900s) you will find that probably more than 200,000,000 people were killed by their own governments. If this hadn't been done, think of how large the population of the world would be today... 10 billion? 12 billion? More? So, we need gun control to keep the population down so that there will always be a small enough number of people in the world that world agriculture can support us all, right? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Doesn't 'ample evidence' equate to 'fact'? Well, if you think that the Sumerian records are mainly a matter of interpretation and cannot be regarded as evidence then there is still other evidence for you to look at, so you can simply come back around to studying the meaning of the ancient records later... I went and watched the video ObscureBean linked. In the Youtube sidebar, there were all kinds of additional videos that talked about the same thing. Sumerian evidence is evidence of what their record states. ObscureBean seems to be accurate in his conclusion that Sumerian evidence doesn't really have anything to do with this topic/thread, even though he doesn't say so directly... or does he? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The more I think about it, the more I see that God created everything tame and domesticated, under the complete control of mankind. Then sin came, and many (most?) things turned wild. As usual, science has it backward. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Not sure I would agree in with the underlined part. We are told God's first instructions to man are "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:" Subdue implies a process dominion yes but not necessarily without effort. I would agree. Too strong of a statement. We can't even kill all the plants and animals off. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Only 15 more days to my payout from Forex Paradise. Do you think it will last that long? It's been there like 2.5 years already. https://forexparadise.biz/![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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In the USA and its States, government doesn't have authority to apply illegal to the private lives of the people. Some of the time they win their court cases against the people because of the ignorance of the people. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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