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2781  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Learning from the dip on: May 30, 2022, 06:48:03 PM
Well, no. 3 is points that might be need to be remember for newbie. Latest case happens to LUNA, when Luna down, people trying to buy, they are thinking if LUNA price will be back soon. In the end, they are loss a lot of money. Stop loss is imporfan if the price is bad. This case will be have a a good lelearning to us to not to put all of money in one place and they need to set a stoploss
2782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 30, 2022, 06:12:37 PM
last night ac monza was promoted to serie a for the first time in its history. the club of the former prime minister (S. Berlusconi) won the decisive play-off match at ac pisa 4:3 after extra time. after 90 minutes, the score had been 3-2 (2-1) for the hosts. monza had won the first leg 2-1.
it will be exciting to see how the promoted team performs against the big clubs next season - in any case, ambitions are high in monza

Thats great, we will see Berlusconi in the bench after left from Milan. Actually he have a good strategy in football, he success bring several title for Milan. Now, he come with his new clubs, of course for now will be hard, but if he can manage Monza in Serie-A 2023/2024 season, this can be good achievement for him. I wish Monza can be great and stay for a long time in Serie-A.
2783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 30, 2022, 06:03:31 PM

I don't think all Liverpool fans are as happy as you say, they are sorry their team failed to win the Champions League at this high point of the season. It doesn't make sense why the fans should be proud when his team only managed to finish second when they had the chance, that's just not true.

About the other two titles, that's something different because Liverpool fans really want to see their team lift the Champions League title this season. I know you understand what I mean, so all the fans are happy about this failure.

True, no fan is happy when they have a chance to win but fail at the end. Because the pride for fans is to see their team win. Unless the team is in a critical phase, for example MU, for MU fans with current conditions, finishing in 2nd position is good. maybe the fans will be happy with the result. but with the capacity of Liverpool's players this season, they should be able to become champions. Fans had expected the result, but City were better and luckier in some games when Liverpool drew, they were able to maximize the game, when Liverpool were in 1st position, City's players faced opponents full of confidence to take over their place.
2784  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Yang Terjadi Pada Terra (LUNA)? on: May 30, 2022, 03:38:38 PM
Jika Luna Classic (LUNC) diberikan kepada komunitas, berarti harus ada utility yang harua dikembangkan. Setidaknya mungkin kedepannya ini bisa jadi koin meme layaknya doge. Tapi, kembali lagi pada trust, mungkin kalau tidak ada P&D market, butuh waktu setidaknya 1 tahun untuk melihat visi & misi tim baru LUNC, jika ada use case, saya yakin trust akan berangsur membaik. Dengan catatan, harus benar-benar dipegang komunitas, dan pemegang harus yang disetujui holder. Kalau asal tunjuk orang, bisa jadi komunitas tetap ga peduli baik dengan LUNA 2.0 maupun LUNC.
2785  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: May 30, 2022, 03:26:07 PM
Semakin hari kasus Robot Trading di Indonesia semakin marak. Positifnya adalah, dengan adanya kasus demi kasus ini, orang awak setidaknya menjadi lebih melek dengan fungsi dan kegunaan Robot trading. Mungkin, setelah ini trader bisa lebih waspada jika ada yang menawarkan bot dengan fitur "pasti profit". Karena, bagaimana pun tidak ada jaminan tersebut. Jika ada yang menjamin profit, maka saya meyakini itu berpotensi ponzi.
2786  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Perlu kah edukasi buat crypto ? on: May 29, 2022, 11:46:32 PM
sepertinya harus ada pihak atau individu yang ingin menginformasikan kepada pemerintah tentang pendidikan crypto agar semua orang dapat mendengar dan memahami bagaimana pemerintah menanggapi hal ini, karena jika pendidikan crypto dimasukkan dalam kurikulum sekolah, karena sekolah menengah atas akan sangat bermanfaat bagi semua siswa, masyarakat indonesia sekarang juga sudah mulai banyak tau tentang crypto

Kalau yang akan dijadikan kurikulum itu teknologinya "blockchain" mungkin masih bisa, tapi kalau cryptonya, ini tidak akan sih. mungkin sekalipun ada dalam suatu mata pelajaran, crypto hanya akan dijadikan contoh alat pembayaran yang ada di dunia. Nah, edukasi mengenai kripto ini, bukanlah edukatis tentang hal tersebut. Namun, lebih kearah investasinya. Mengapa edukasi ini perlu hanya sebatas pada investasinya? Kita tahu, Indonesia adalah negara yang orang-orangnya mudah latah, apa yang viral mereka ikutin. Sama seperti kasus ghozali kaya, orang indonesia langsung nyerbu Opensea dengan NFT tak bernilai bahkan tak bermoral, ketika foto guru mereka dijual sebagai NFT. Edukasi seperti ini bukanlah edukasi formal, namun bisa diberikan oleh orang-orang yang sudah terjun ke dunia crypto & investasi yang berkaitan. Bukan dari mata pelajaran.

Contoh edukasinya cukup dari webinar, seminar dan forum. Yang paling benar adalah dengan join di forum yang terhubung dengan kripto, webinar dan seminar, rata-rata materinya adalah materi yang umum karena narasumber dan penyedia sering kali memanfaatin hal ini untuk cari duit, bukan murni ngasih ilmu  Tongue
ngga semua memang, tapi sulit untuk bisa menemukan yang bener-bener mengedukasi.
2787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 29, 2022, 11:34:32 PM
Slot games are synonymous with luck, there are times when only with a small capital we can get a big enough win, I once tried to play in sweet bonanza with only $20 capital and I was able to make almost $400 without buying bonus features or free spins, but unfortunately when I tried to play again and increasing the bet, all the wins that have get ever been lost in an instant, so far I have been playing slots without trying tricks because I think there is no such thing as a trick in slots to win, many say that room selection is very important in playing slots and do you think if it is a trick that might affect the win? Grin
Yes, I also once with $50 capital I won $700 in just 2 days. This is my biggest win I got so far. Of course, this win is just a story, maybe overall, my loss was bigger than my biggest win, the losses I experienced were actually coz emotional, i have an experience, I lost $300 a day because I forced to play when I lost hoping to get a win. of course this is small amounts for most people, but if you live in here, $300 is big enough Cheesy.


Come back once you feel refreshed but dont forget to stay on your own limit.

Yep, trying to control my self from loss more money now  Cheesy
2788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 27, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
Manchester United managed to finish in 6th place which means they are entitled to a place in the Europa League. Although not satisfactory for them but this is a pretty good result seeing from their performance this season. I'm curious about this team next season if they will be the same team or worse or even if they can bounce back from their form this season.

The mistake that United made last season was when they were too confident to keep Solskjaer. MU felt that Mourinho was not able to give the trophy, replacing it with a solskjaer who was far from experienced, even though he had been as MU coach before,he also not able to give good results. It was too late to replace Solskjaer with Rangnick, so Rangnick's strategy did not go well, due to the adaptation of different strategies and playing styles between Rangnick and Olle. Now, Ten Hag takes over as coach of MU, he must start his coaching by improving the mentality of players so that they don't just play, but have a winning spirit like MU in the Sir Fergie era.
2789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 27, 2022, 02:45:53 PM
Today I played with very bad results, went back to playing caishen and wild wet win (spadegaming) no wins, only able to win 1-2 times with consecutive losses. Is it possible because a few days ago I got pretty sweet results, so today I didn't get a win. Even though I won, I didn't get a big win, it's just that I won quite often compared to defeat. yesterday too, trying to playing starlight and sweet bonanza after long day not playing both, the results are also bad. Its time to rest  Sad
2790  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: May 27, 2022, 01:53:00 PM
sedikit menengahi untuk mas @showoff Uang pinjaman kan uang yang harus dikembalikan secara utuh kepada orang yang meminjamkan. Ini sudah mutlak.

Modal usaha bagi hasil: metode bisnis yang dijalankan bersama dimana pemilik modal mempercayakan uangnya kepada pelaku usaha yang nantinya keduanya bisa mendapatkan benefit berupa keuntungan atau jika rugi, pemilik modal menanggung kerugian, pelaku usaha rugi waktu dan tidak bayaran, sebagian juga motong dari keuntungan untuk pelaku usaha guna nutup kerugian sebelumnya. Sistem begini tidak akan 50:50, yang saya ketahui, sebelum pemilik modal balik ROI, mereka akan meminta bagian lebih besar, seperti 75:25, untuk ngover pendapatannya ketika rugi. (Dari pengalaman saya kerja bareng temen)

Jadi kalau yang ditanyakan menerima untung ruginya itu sudah masuk tipe-2 ibarat usaha bersama bukan lagi pinjaman.
2791  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: May 27, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
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apakah mereka sempat melihat kondisi pasar sebelum kejadian. 
Kalau ini, pasti ada yang mengambil keputusan CL ada juga yang ga sempet CL (cut loss). Tapi ga bisa nyebutin angka atau presentase, yang pasti dari sekian banyak orang yang ga sempat CL memutuskan untuk bunuh diri, mungkin ini terjadi karena uang yang dia pakai untuk ngehold adalah uang panas, baik itu berupa tabungan, uang pinjaman dan sebagainya. Makanya sangat disaranin untuj melakukan diversifikasi dalam trading, meskipun ini bukanlah keharusan, jika invest di satu tempat, kejadiannya bisa seperti luna, ngehold malah amblas semua. Memang, diversifikasi tidak mutlak dapat menjaga nilai aset, namun jika yang dipilih seperti BTC, meski nilai sekarang berkurang, setidaknya BTC memiliki potensi lebih baik daripada alt baru kaya Luna ini.
2792  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Platform softwhare/aplikasi open source,Apakah aman? on: May 26, 2022, 06:26:39 PM
Software yang open-source memang umumnya aman untuk digunakan, tetapi ada banyak hal yang juga harus dijadikan pertimbangan sebelum menggunakan.
1. Kontributor, semakin banyak kontributornya, ini akan lebih baik, karena setiap otang dapat menemukan celah kekurangan dari sistem dan coding.

2. Pembaruan, banyak kontributor tapi sudah sangat lama tidak diperbarui, ini bisa saja memiliki kelemahan. Kita tahu, virus terus bermutasi, jika software ga diperbarui, bisa saja celah yang dulu aman sekarang sudah rentan.

Kesimpulan sederhana, open-source tidak menjamin 100% aman, tapi lebih mudah untuk diawasi banyak orang. Selalu waspada saat akan menginstal software open-source, siapkan antivirus yang bagus dan versi terbaru, ini akan membantu Anda. Terlebih jika sofrware yang digunakan nantinya berkaitan dengan aset, Anda harus benar-benar berhati-hati.
2793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 26, 2022, 03:50:56 PM
There is nothing wrong with Inzaghi, even I initially thought that Inter would find it difficult to compete after the board appointed Inzaghi as their coach at the start of the season was 100% wrong. Inzaghi has done his job very well this season, it's just there have been a few games where the results have been surprising. even Milan felt the same way, lucky for Milan, they was able to provide good performance when facing a strong team, including when they beat Inter in a Serie A derby.
2794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 26, 2022, 03:40:30 PM
Liverpool must be very disappointed after losing their title chance by a small gap at the end. They started to be hopeful after Manchester City had a hard time defeating Aston Villa first but they lost their hopes after some time passed. Liverpool shouldn't have leave the title to chance in the first place. They could have got ahead of Manchester City if they were able to defeat Tottenham before. It would have carried Liverpool one point ahead. That was an important loss of points for Liverpool. Anyway, Liverpool are still having a decent season and they still have an opportunity to even win the Champions League title now.

Liverpool have failed to win this season, but I believe they are ready with this result. Although can't get epl champions, Liverpool still has strong optimism to face next season. However, from Liverpool's overall game, they have been brilliant this season. Regarding UCL opportunities, of course they will perform optimally so  there is a trophy to be obtained this season. It could be that failure in the EPL will provide more motivation for Liverpool players to perform better, but in my opinion, the chances are slightly better for Real Madrid. 55:45.
2795  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: May 26, 2022, 01:55:21 PM
Kalau memang Bappebti berencana untuk mengawasi Robot trading, satu hal yang harus dilakukan oleh pengembang, yaitu dengan membuka kode program (source-code) untuk tim bappepti paling tidak. Akan lebih baik kalau dilakukan secara opensource, jadi publik akan lebih mudah untuk menganalisa sistem dan kode pemrograman dari bot tersebut. Tentu, ini seperti mustahil. karena pengembangan bot tentunya memakan banyak biaya, namun jika kode pemrogramannya tertutup, ini akan sangat riskan. Bagaimana pun, rencana ini sudah sangat bagus, semoga saja terealisasi agar trader yang "ingin" menggunakan bot tidak terjebak dengan penawaran bot abal-abal.
2796  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 26, 2022, 01:48:29 PM
bitcoin.com itu juga tidak bisa dikatakan kredible karena shiling dari bitcoin cash, cuma karena pake domain bitcoin tapi jualannya sih bitcoin cash alias nempel nama tenar bitcoin. Jadi ya harus hati-hati biar tidak kejebak [1].
Terima kasih atas koreksinya, sepertinya saya kelewatan informasi ketika bitcoin.com melakukan shilling bitcoin cash, karena awal-awal saya mencari info BTC ya melalui bitcoin.com sebelum join di forum ini. Saya dulunya sering baca blognya, karena saya pikir masih cukup bagus untuk menambah pengetahuan. cuma ga tau juga sekarang seperti apa, karena ini berdasarkan pengalaman saya dulu. jadi, mohon maaf kalau saya menjerumuskan ke web yang sama-sama ga kredibel.
2797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 26, 2022, 06:56:27 AM
I've never watched this competition, but I was very surprised by the results from Mourinho and AS Roma. For Mourinho, this is a big success, even failed in Serie-A, because this is his first season at AS Roma and has succeeded in giving trophies even though it is not the main trophy being targeted by AS Roma. Then, for AS Roma, this became their first trophy after 14 years without getting a single trophy (CMIIW).

The Special One's claims, still worthy of mourinho, even though he failed to give a title for Hotspur.
2798  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 25, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
Jadi kalau boleh saya tau,situs berita apa saja yang menurut agan agan kredibel dan terpercaya untuk memantau perkembangan crypto saat ini?
Untuk menambah referensi saya agar tidak terjerumus kepada berita yang menyesatkan dan merugikan.
Secara usia Anda bergabung di forum ini, harusnya Anda sudah bisa kok mas memilih berita mana yang dapat berdampak pada fomo dan fud. Kalau media lokal, lumrahnya hanya mencari sensasi, coba cari berita selain media mainstream, misal, decrypt.co dan sebagainya mungkin akan melihat sisi lain dari kripto dan berita tentang kripto. Kalau kita hanya mengikuti pakar ekonomi yang pro fiat seperti JP morgan, IMF dan sebagainya, pasti isinya akan sama "kripto ga aman", ini sudah menjadi komentar valid bagi mereka. Kemudian, media mengangkatnya kembali memanfaatkan momentum bearish.

Lebih baik, ngikuti berita BTC ya dari bitcoin.com atau twitter bitcoin, ini akan lebih sehat daripada terjebak media.

2799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 25, 2022, 05:23:04 PM
No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.
2800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NFTs new features on the market on: May 24, 2022, 05:42:33 PM
All NFTs are almost nonsense but that shouldn't stop you from taking advantage, as bad as meme coins are I still invested money on them and I lose money but made much more, we are all here to make money and it shouldn't matter which project the money will come from, where there is hype is where you will make you better money.

Following the hype is certainly not a bad thing, as long as you can still determine when to enter and when to exit to take profit. However, most people, when the hype is high, have the opportunity to sell at a better price, they become greedy, until the project ends up crashing. Hype tokens and projects are a lot of scams, if you are not good at choosing, you will lose a lot of money. An important lesson when playing on hype tokens is to be able to set targets with at least a hold profit. If you can sell with a lot of profit, at least sell a little to return the capital, the rest, hold both for profit and if you lose, you don't have the initial capital in it anymore.
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