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2781  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 14, 2014, 12:08:09 AM
Gogo- I just sent a PM to Betcoin so that they can reply here.
2782  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 13, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
Is someone waiting for payment from Webetcoins? Right now they still have an "F" rating. If everyone has been paid then the will move up to "D-".

Nitrogen has a 2% exchange but if anyone is going to test drive the webetcoins exchange with the freebie, please report back.

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Anyone who registers starts with .005 -- you may successfully withdraw this promo when you reach .03
2783  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 13, 2014, 12:43:20 PM
This is old news that happened on Oct. 7th. Jetwin was hit by a DDoS attack. Everything is fine now . Nitrogen, Anonibet and Jetwin have all been attacked.

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We would like to announce that criminals are attacking JETWIN with a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS). The attacker is trying to racketeer us money to make it stop. However, we refused to give money and are working with our network providers to diminish the attack as best as we can within the shortest time possible.

Thank you for your understanding.
2784  Economy / Gambling / Re: directbet very strange , cricket bettors please STOP on: October 11, 2014, 11:05:28 PM
Dead heat rules never apply when only 2 teams are involved in 2 way betting. All money should be refunded. The rules should be amended if DirectBet is still enforcing the dead heat rule under these circumstances.
Raina & Kohli tied for first in a bet pool with >2 options (I'm assuming). The rule was applied exactly as it's described.
Thanks, my mistake.

DirectBet- Sorry about that one.
2785  Economy / Gambling / Re: directbet very strange , cricket bettors please STOP on: October 11, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
 All money should be refunded. The rules should be amended if DirectBet is still enforcing the dead heat rule under these circumstances.

edit- The rules were applied properly as the wager wasn't between 2 teams but multiple players.
2786  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 10, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
We at Cloudbet spread live hockey. Thanks!
Thanks

Only 3 books with live hockey.

2787  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 10, 2014, 01:25:18 AM
Updated spreadsheet for books with live hockey. Books- If something is missing please post it.

2788  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 09, 2014, 08:30:30 PM
BETvip is a joke and much deserving of its C- rating.   If they weren't paying peeps place, no one would even know they exist.

I've been playing at BetVIP for a long time and their banner has been up quite a long time. Most wouldn't even know the 5 books with banners if they didn't look.

Post problems that you had with BetVIP if you feel their rating is unjust. Thanks
2789  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 09, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
BetVIP will soon be open for 6 months. They have a 100% bonus and there haven't been any reported problems. Are there any objections to raising their rating from "C-" to "C"?

Is anyone actually betting here?

It has the worst software ever - pick a sport, then get a list of all matches with NO ODDS DISPLAYED.
Want to find the odds - click the games, ONE BY ONE.

But there are also numerous tech problems which should have been solved months ago.

I recently informed them that I couldn't get rid of a bet slip from months ago. I couldn't bet anything else, because it would ask me to place a wager amount for the expired bet slip. Then tell me the bet is expired.

They seem to have now fixed this. But was I really the only one to tell them about this? How long have they been open?

It was also logging me out every time I clicked on something. That's not happening today.

But something else that has happened for months is occurring.
I click on a bet I'd like to place, I get a bet slip - but the window to enter the bet amount does not appear.
It's impossible to make a bet.

This site should be downgraded by a lot until they are functioning half decently.

Is anyone making bets here successfully currently?


PS - I guess they've given up pretending to have live Chat support, the box now is labeled "Contact Us".
This is almost always non-functional.

This time as I was writing something I got a small popup box:



[object XML HttpRequest]

exactly as written above including the brackets.

It was impossible to get rid of it without clicking on an "OK" button which I wasn't willing to do as I have no idea what that means and have never experienced this before with any website - it locked up the site - had to close the tab with BetVIP.

Hey Harib,

We're sorry for the issues. We don't profess to be perfect and are
constantly working to improve our product thanks to the feedback of
customers such as yourself.

All critical issues you raised (and that we could replicate) have been
fixed. Other product improvement suggestions have also been noted and
queued for development.

If any other issues persist could you please send us details of your
environment using the link we have previously sent? We have not been able
to replicate these but hopefully other product release have sorted them
out.

CloudFlare security was upgraded following an attempted attack - we're
sorry for this inconvenience but it really is for your own benefit.

All of the above sound like excuses but we'd really just like to humbly
apologise and thank you for your feedback. We know there is plenty of room
for improvement and are working around the clock to get improve our
service.

Regards,
BetVIP


"If any other issues persist could you please send us details of your
environment using the link we have previously sent?
We have not been able
to replicate these but hopefully other product release have sorted them
out."

BetVIP did ask me to do this 9 days ago and I didn't follow thru. I have a problem with following thru on that, but will pm when I get a chance  and perhaps there's some other way I can help you solve it.

I do owe BetVIP  an apology for my latest rant, as I didn't follow thru with contacting them about "the details of my environment," and they did contact me on Oct. 1st asking me to do so. So they did offer a "next step" towards trying to solve the problem, and I dropped the ball on this one.

And they did solve the "outdated bet slip that can't be deleted" after I posted about it.

thanks for the  update Harib. We need more posting this type of information on all the books.

2790  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 09, 2014, 11:16:12 AM
Total for NHL have been added.
Good to hear.

Gogo getting the job done again. We need more to post suggestions, praises and complaints. The book may listen.
2791  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 08, 2014, 06:31:34 AM
Update



"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
Jetwin C +(2013)
OLEBitcoin C (2013) *
BetVIP C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Betabit F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
Webetcoins F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
altbetfair
finalstake
Asianconnect88
Premiumtradings
Betbanks
BetXCP
Evolvebets
Bitesports

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2792  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 08, 2014, 06:28:53 AM
Hey peeps-

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Thanks, I'll add it.
2793  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 08, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
Peeps - I guess all of your "F" books are known scams/stiffs?
Yes for the most part. Webetcoins may have paid all players but I still left them an "F" for now. Betcas pays most players but they have stiffed a few so they are remaining an "F"
2794  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 08, 2014, 04:22:12 AM
Decided to check some lines at BetVIP, even if I can't bet them due to their technical problems.

I had to do a Cloudflare captcha just to get to the site. Didn't bother logging in.
After a few minutes, Cloudflare appeared again, had to do another captcha.

Got back in. After a few minutes, another Cloudflare.

Peeps - This site should be downgraded to D minus at best. I would personally make it E or F.

Worst. Sportsbetting. Website. Ever.
Harib- Thanks for the feedback. I sent a PM to BetVIP to see their response. If anyone else plays at BetVIP, please post your experiences.
2795  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 07, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
Anonibet
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We would like to apologise to our valued customers who have been inconvenienced by a DDOS attack ongoing on our site. The perpetrator is the same person who attacked Nitrogen and as he has done with Nitrogen, he is asking for ransom. We will not enter into negotiations with him. Our IT team is working to resolve the problem.

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We would like to announce that the site is back up, and you can proceed to place your live and flat bets at your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011, www.anonibet.com

Wonder which book he'll hit next.
2796  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 07, 2014, 05:29:52 AM
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Anonibet Now Has a 10 % Instant Deposit Bonus

Anonibet is proud to announce a 10 % Instant Deposit Bonus, which is already active for all depositors. A customer will be entitled to a 10 % bonus each time they make a deposit. This bonus has no limits as to the number of times a customer can receive it.

To sweeten up the Bonus, There is no expiry date, meaning as long as the bonus has not been lost, It will remain in your account as a bonus. However, its winnings can be withdrawn if bonus terms are met. In order to withdraw bonus winnings, all you need to do is place a stake equivalent to your deposit amount plus the bonus (1 time rollover). Visit www.anonibet.com for more
2797  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: October 07, 2014, 05:28:13 AM
BetVIP will soon be open for 6 months. They have a 100% bonus and there haven't been any reported problems. Are there any objections to raising their rating from "C-" to "C"?
2798  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anonibet Official Thread - Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation on: October 01, 2014, 04:45:53 AM
The poster Legend is from DirectBet. His posts should be deleted from this thread. Most of the time this poster pretends that his English is poor. Once in a while he slips and uses perfect English.  DirectBet uses many ghosts/shills and they like to use red letters.

Legend/DirectBet pretending his English is bad in two different threads
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haha this is no provably fair verification!!!

no where in paper it say anonibet is provably fair!!!

this paper is joke... made by company that run anonibet scam casino games... all it mean they have fair random numbers... but that does not mean they don't cheat... of course they say they don't cheat but u can not verify it...
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u also LIER... I never advertise any company in your thread I only post to warn people on anonibet because they cheated me and u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scams!

Legend/DirectBet perfect English
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I placed 70+ bets on your site and you don't consider me a customer???

... I stopped when I suspected that I am competing against anonibet employees!
2799  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: September 30, 2014, 02:57:13 AM
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Nitrogen Sports Goes Public To Combat Extortion, Blackmail and Slander
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Nitrogen Sports appears to have been the subject of a continual and aggressive blackmailing and smear campaign that they are attempting to bring to an end today by going public with the information. The hacker demanded Bitcoin in order to prevent DDoS (distributed denial of service) attacks that were bringing down the site.

Nitrogen Sports posted a few key private messages on Bitcointalk that showcase the alleged blackmailer's demands. Additionally, we have been handed private messages and email logs that reveal more details, including that the alleged hacker, who goes by the name "DD4BC" on Bitcointalk, threatened to reveal the website to the authorities of the nation they are hosted in, and ominous comments about people the hacker believed to be relatives of Nitrogen Sports employees.


DD4BC has also been hopping on the Bitcointalk forums to complain about Nitrogen Sports' downtime, which he claimed to cause in the private chat log. In the public posts, he said he “loves” Nitrogen Sports and would hate to move to another sportsbook, but the private back and forth between him and Nitrogen Sports reveal a different story.

In the information we have been provided, DD4BC also claims that Nitrogen Sports competitors pay his extortion fees, which is why they do not suffer the same attacks as they have been lately. We have been told that Nitrogen Sports has been dealing with DD4BC's extortion attempts for a few months, dating back at least to July 31st.




DD4BC's continually asked for “2 BTC” with the threat that the price would go up to three bitcoins if Nitrogen Sports didn't pay up soon. Ironically, DD4BC took to Bitcointalk to complain about a “2 BTC withdraw” that he was waiting for. Nitrogen Sports gave us this comment on that claim:

At Nitrogen Sports, unfortunately we don't consider extortion attempts to be withdrawals.
The address listed in DD4BC's alleged recent extortion attemps do not have any transactions associtated with it at press time. We were given another address 1H2bstU3yCpqJyrNzHSrnperZnTMSwLa5K which was purportedly used by the hacker back in August. He transfers the funds to what appears to be a mixing service.

There is bound to be some shadowy dealing and nefarious happenings whenever you are talking about things that exist in the gray market, like gambling. The alleged blackmailer likely feels safe that Nitrogen Sports will give into his demands because of that murky legal situation. While it is unlikely the police would be able to track down this blackmailer, it is clear that online casinos have reason to avoid involving law enforcement.



That said, online gambling was one of the first real use cases of Bitcoin. One that is significantly more useful than the other early use case of Bitcoin in bringing in mainstream adoption. There are millions of people around the world who would never order something off of darknet sites like The Silk Road, but would absolutely love to drop their local sports bookie or online gambling site for something safer like Bitcoin casinos. While no one owes anyone anything after an agreement (like a bet) is fulfilled, the Bitcoin economy would not be where it is today without the gambling market. The extortionist is therefore indirectly attacking Bitcoin's very usability.




Nitrogen Sports. can't turn to the police, it likely wouldn't be effective even if they did. So, perhaps turning to the community for answers is a better option. Witch hunts are never a good thing and vigilante justice should not be encouraged. However, if you think you have any information on DD4BC's identity, you are encouraged to share it with Nitrogensports before posting it in a public matter. You can reach them at here . Other casinos who have also been victim of DD4BC's alleged crimes are encouraged to come forward as well.

Did you enjoy this article? You may also be interested in reading these ones:

Nitrogen Sports, the Largest Bitcoin Sportsbook, Adds Poker, Full Interview Inside
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http://cointelegraph.com/news/112606/nitrogensports-goes-public-to-combat-extortion-blackmail-and-slander
2800  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: September 29, 2014, 04:15:59 AM
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