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27901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 17, 2016, 03:09:29 PM
While the first verse in the Bible covers a period that is unknown, because things like the electromagnetic spectrum had not been settled into place before there was light, the KEY biblical understanding of this is that "the earth was formless and void." In other words, there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made. Some of it might correspond to billions of years, or trillions. Other of it would correspond to only an instant, like a nano-second or less. And some might correspond to any amount of time in between.

Cool

And you've just shot down your own belief that the bible proves the Earth's age is 6000 years by saying that any time period between Earth's creation and there being an electromagnetic spectrum could have been billions or trillions of years, or a nano-second or less. Nice work!!!  Grin

Quite the contrary. The time before time was not time. It wasn't even before time. So, using time, the thing that the year is made up of, the earth is a little over 6,000 years old. Just because it has some other things that look a little like time but aren't time, doesn't change the time.

Cool

To use your own argument against you, if the time before time was not time, then the period between the Earth being "created" and the "time" before man was "made" could be either an instant or any number of years - hence you shoot down your own argument of 6000 years.

Wrong! You don't even provide any reason for your thinking.

The so-called time before the day that light was created is a mixture of long-time, short-time, no-time, and maybe even "all-time." It is outside anything we know.

Once time was created at the beginning of the first day, since light was created the first day along with the whole electromagnetic spectrum, then the first day became a 24-hour day.

Earth is a little more than 6,000 years old... perhaps as much as 6,200 years.

Cool

Okay, let me break down my reasoning for you.

Let me assume that your calculation of 6000 / 6200 years for the age of Earth is correct.

The Bible states that light was made on the first day after the Earth itself was created. Your argument above states that "there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made. Some of it might correspond to billions of years, or trillions. Other of it would correspond to only an instant, like a nano-second or less. And some might correspond to any amount of time in between."

So you have a gap between when the Earth was created and when light was made. This period of time could be, in your own words, billions or trillions of years, or a nano-second or less. If this period was an instant, then your calculation of 6000 / 6200 years would be correct. If this period was trillions of years, then your calculation is trillions of years out.

Okay. Let me break your mistaken understanding down for you. Your mistake lies in the fact that you are not believing of the Bible.

As for what I have to say, the non-time "before" light was created is a mixture of things that looked and acted (to some extent) like, "... there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made. Some of it might correspond to billions of years, or trillions. Other of it would correspond to only an instant, like a nano-second or less. And some might correspond to any amount of time in between."

But here is the important part of what I said, "... there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made."  Did you catch that? I'll repeat it a little shorter: "... no knowledge ..."

The closest thing that we have to understanding about the "time" before light comes in 3 parts:
1. The earth was "formless and void;"
2. There was apparently some cohesion in whatever existed because there was a "surface of the waters;"
3. How do we know that there was this cohesion and a surface of the waters? Because the "Spirit of God moved over the surface of the waters."

The New International Version translators of the ancient Hebrew write it this way, Genesis 1:1,2:
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

So, now you can see your misunderstanding. It is contained in the fact that you want to believe silly science fairy tails rather than the absolute best record we have of the beginning of the earth "times," the Bible.

Cool
27902  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: September 17, 2016, 01:37:00 AM
Forex Paradise is still there, and I am one day closer to a 400% payout.

At least one of the plans offers over 400% in 40 days, rather than the 60 days I have to wait for. All things equal, it's a little more than I will get. The advantage is that the time is only 40 days rather than 60. I would have gotten it sooner if I had joined that plan.

Cool
27903  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 17, 2016, 01:25:45 AM



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Yes, yes, yes! Stay right where you are. We don't need such idiocy as yours in public.

Cool
27904  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm a Rocket Scientist on: September 17, 2016, 01:23:05 AM
To answer this question it is necessary to examine first what a vacuum. As I understand it is the complete absence of air. But why the missile can not work under these conditions?

A rocket needs a pressurized atmosphere to push against and this doesn't work in a vacuum environment. The following video on automotive turbos does a good job of explaining the pressure concepts involved:

Turbos prove rockets don't work in space:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC87xS2ibME

Rocket propulsion works entirely on the principle of inertia... the inertia of the exploding fuel trying to remain moving at the same pace as the rocket but being forced to move with explosive-like force in the opposite direction by its exploding action... and the rocket being forced in the opposite direction of the exploding fuel against its own inertia. The inertia of the exploding fuel wins.

Once in a while the fuel is ignited in too rapid of an explosion, and the rocket engine explodes. This is rare, now days, because rocket science has become a real art.

Cool
27905  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 17, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
Gun must control and license

Exactly what I have been saying. Let everyone get massive numbers of guns, and then let the guns license and control such beings as politicians, cops, and the military.

Cool
27906  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: September 17, 2016, 01:12:06 AM
Earth is gonna be fine. It's everything currently living on it that's screwed.
Earth is going to be fine. Growing food, marrying and divorcing, wars, etc., are all going to keep on going as they have until Jesus returns.



We're nothing but a blip on a cosmic timescale. Once we've blown it something else will take our place.
God loves you. That's why He sent His Son Jesus to take the punishment for your sins. This way you have the opportunity to be saved... because God loves you. If only you would avail yourself of the opportunity...



It's no more or less natural than us returning to the trees.

I agree. There are several species of trees that grow very rapidly. If you plant a bunch of saplings of these in a square, very close together, in just a couple of years they will grow together and form a wall. Then you can splice some of the branches across from one side to the other, and other branches across for the roof.

We could go back to the trees for natural living rather than cutting them down to build houses out of.

Cool
27907  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 17, 2016, 01:04:01 AM
While the first verse in the Bible covers a period that is unknown, because things like the electromagnetic spectrum had not been settled into place before there was light, the KEY biblical understanding of this is that "the earth was formless and void." In other words, there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made. Some of it might correspond to billions of years, or trillions. Other of it would correspond to only an instant, like a nano-second or less. And some might correspond to any amount of time in between.

Cool

And you've just shot down your own belief that the bible proves the Earth's age is 6000 years by saying that any time period between Earth's creation and there being an electromagnetic spectrum could have been billions or trillions of years, or a nano-second or less. Nice work!!!  Grin

Quite the contrary. The time before time was not time. It wasn't even before time. So, using time, the thing that the year is made up of, the earth is a little over 6,000 years old. Just because it has some other things that look a little like time but aren't time, doesn't change the time.

Cool

To use your own argument against you, if the time before time was not time, then the period between the Earth being "created" and the "time" before man was "made" could be either an instant or any number of years - hence you shoot down your own argument of 6000 years.

Wrong! You don't even provide any reason for your thinking.

The so-called time before the day that light was created is a mixture of long-time, short-time, no-time, and maybe even "all-time." It is outside anything we know.

Once time was created at the beginning of the first day, since light was created the first day along with the whole electromagnetic spectrum, then the first day became a 24-hour day.

Earth is a little more than 6,000 years old... perhaps as much as 6,200 years.

Cool

Sometimes you really surprise me how dense you are (assuming you're not a troll). Time doesn't exist, therefore cannot be created. 24h day was created to simplify the counting of ones. There could be 2 months for every season and day could be lasting more or less hours. Your whole theory is not that good.

Okay, okay. Since time doesn't exist for you, why are you even posting in this thread? I mean, if you were going to post here, why are you talking about the time as it is listed in the Bible? Shouldn't your points be around the idea of no time at all? So, if time doesn't exist for you, the earth doesn't have any age at all... in your belief, that is.

How in the world goofy are you trying to be? And then you talk about the idea that I have a theory? I don't have a theory. I have faith in the things that God has told all of us through His prophets.

What in the world is your point, anyway? Are you another of those flat earth people?

Cool
27908  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: September 16, 2016, 10:56:52 AM
It is the sole responsibility of everyone to save and protect our mother Earth.  No one would do that of course except us.  Not only that we will benefit from it but the next generation including our children and children's children.

How silly. People can't even make themselves live beyond about 100 years. Anybody who thinks that we can save the earth is goofy. The closest we can come is to keep ourselves from destroying it any more than we have. Here is how you can do it.

Stop the wars. If you can't stop people from making war, you can't stop them from doing anything else. The war-mongers don't care if the earth is destroyed. But they destroy the earth more than anyone else. Look at how long Bikini Atoll was uninhabitable after the A-bomb.

Cool
27909  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 16, 2016, 10:51:33 AM
While the first verse in the Bible covers a period that is unknown, because things like the electromagnetic spectrum had not been settled into place before there was light, the KEY biblical understanding of this is that "the earth was formless and void." In other words, there is no knowledge of what went before the day that light was made. Some of it might correspond to billions of years, or trillions. Other of it would correspond to only an instant, like a nano-second or less. And some might correspond to any amount of time in between.

Cool

And you've just shot down your own belief that the bible proves the Earth's age is 6000 years by saying that any time period between Earth's creation and there being an electromagnetic spectrum could have been billions or trillions of years, or a nano-second or less. Nice work!!!  Grin

Quite the contrary. The time before time was not time. It wasn't even before time. So, using time, the thing that the year is made up of, the earth is a little over 6,000 years old. Just because it has some other things that look a little like time but aren't time, doesn't change the time.

Cool

To use your own argument against you, if the time before time was not time, then the period between the Earth being "created" and the "time" before man was "made" could be either an instant or any number of years - hence you shoot down your own argument of 6000 years.

Wrong! You don't even provide any reason for your thinking.

The so-called time before the day that light was created is a mixture of long-time, short-time, no-time, and maybe even "all-time." It is outside anything we know.

Once time was created at the beginning of the first day, since light was created the first day along with the whole electromagnetic spectrum, then the first day became a 24-hour day.

Earth is a little more than 6,000 years old... perhaps as much as 6,200 years.

Cool
27910  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 16, 2016, 10:39:42 AM


Many people have attempted to research flat earth. But they couldn't, because they couldn't find any flat earth to research.

The reason why the flat earth people are focusing on the flat earth society stuff is the same reason why the politicians are in government. Keep those loonies in their own little pen, so that they aren't out bothering people in real life.

There was a time that I was worried a little, about making this point known, but now I see that making it know only helps them to stay where they are, away from sane society.

Cool
27911  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm a Rocket Scientist on: September 16, 2016, 10:34:59 AM


Poor little nomad13666. Can't take it, can you, when real logic overruns your comedy of errors.

Cool



BADecker is a joke. Mental illness is not.
Don't be a BADecker. Seek help before it's too late.

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That's okay. You can have your mental illness, and your rocket science. It's keeping you distracted while the world moves on to new horizons. Wouldn't want you out there contaminating reality, anyway.

Cool
27912  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 16, 2016, 10:29:12 AM
its not rocket science, controlling guns has worked in every country that has applied it with zero negative effects... whats the reason Americans don't want to do this exactly?

Actually, gun control hasn't done much of anything in any country since its implementation.

The only reason why there is apparent peace in gun control countries is, there is still gun freedom in America and Switzerland.

If the goal of gun control countries were implemented, all the citizens of those countries would be slaves of their governments. And it is somewhat this way in many of the gun control countries as it is.

Gun control governments can't enslave their people more than they do, because if they did, the people would become rebellious at the oppression, and would get guns from America or Switzerland, and destroy their governments. The only way governments of gun control counties can have relative peace and control is, let the people be free.

World freedom is based on gun freedom in America and Switzerland (and to a lesser extent, on gun availability to their citizens), and world governments know this.

Cool
27913  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It is time to Ban Religion on: September 15, 2016, 07:53:36 PM
People in church usually sit very close together. They need deodorant. All that banning religion is, is getting the people to use Ban Deodorant, so they don't offend each other in church.

 Grin
27914  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your Money or Your Life on: September 15, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
Both need each other live without money there will be no happiness and have a money will certainly make life easier, but if had to choose between one course I prefer to retain the money.

Brings us to a good point. Keeping your money and losing your life, isn't keeping your money at all. You can't take it with you.

Cool
27915  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
Just checked. Forex Paradise is still there this morning.    Cool
Still there this morning , and would be gone after few days . Promoting ponzi scheme , don't destroy crypto-currency man.
Are you the owner , or just lucky person who is greedy about money.

On-topic : ^ Don't get serious about his opinion , safe investment i think is trading , nothing more . Holding your bitcoin just raising up the price not your bitcoin for long-term basis.

Perhaps gone in a few days. But here for over 2.5 years.

Getting out of bed in the morning is a gamble that might not work for you this time.

Forex Paradise = invest a tiny amount, and then build on your earnings after you get your investment back.

Nobody is requiring you to do it. If you don't want to, don't.

Cool
27916  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your Money or Your Life on: September 15, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
My favorite is tax on rain  Roll Eyes you can always leave...

Leaving is what death is.

The point of the article is to wake enough people up to the fact that tax is simply stealing. If enough people wake up, they just might do something about it. If they do, they will change things to "Keep your money and your life."

Cool
27917  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 15, 2016, 03:52:24 PM
Come on people. Science proves God exists, nature shows God exists, and in the Bible God tells us He exists. God rules all.

Cool

Sure... and the Earth is flat...  Roll Eyes
[INSERT A FACEPALM HERE]

No, the earth isn't flat. It has mountains and valleys. But God tells us that He will make the rough ways smooth. Isaiah 40:4:
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Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain.

Cool
27918  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2016, 03:46:41 PM
Just checked. Forex Paradise is still there this morning.    Cool
27919  Other / Off-topic / Re: Microwaves are really big waves and up to 1 metre long on: September 15, 2016, 03:44:52 PM
If they're so big, they must be heavier than light waves.     Grin
27920  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who replaces Hillary? on: September 15, 2016, 03:42:54 PM
Trump has been replacing Hillary for a long time now.    Cool
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