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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 02, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
DCY/Dinasty of freedom is having their own mining farm, as far as I know will target mainly Dinastycoin, Monero, Karbowanec and Sumokoin, has a total cap of 1000 shares, 1 single user can buy up to 10 shares ( 1 share = 70 eur ) . I believe there will no be international marketing for this purpose however if you are interested send me a private message and I will redirect it. A total of 91 shares have been sold so far.

Have a great day sumominers.
Just LOL
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 02, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
I tried to download the wallet for windows x64 but after some minutes is always stacking.

Give a good description of the problem. I'm sure we can help  Smiley

I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but I think he/she means that it's constantly "Loading Wallet...", even after the network is synchronized 100%. I have the same problem.. Just downloaded the 64 bit zip file for windows. I made exclusions in both windows defender and avg for the whole directory..  Any help would be appreciated, Smiley.

Thank you,

Brian
It failed to install properly. If you have your seed words delete Programdata\sumokoin and Programdata\SumokoinGUIWallet folders
Reinstall your wallet, and restore it from your seed words. This will solve it
Dont delete anything if you dont save your seed words first
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 02, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
Having some problems,  my address is not appearing on the block chain explorer?

Sumoo3YYVncPV2T9kqZZMZWk8keXzvMaG8Vn1mtHBHTmA4Tz48u1SFy9MM26AFA28kWgnbJPqdDmV5r UhNT2HyRYh9TZCV8WZVb

Any ideas?

Edit: Actually I cant get any sumo address to show in the block explorer, including the dev wallets. Do i have to have the blockchain synced on the computer I am using to view?

You cannot search by address on the block chain explorer, this is why there is no rich list for Sumokoin or Monero. It's part of the chain's privacy. If you could check each address's transaction on the explorer Sumokoin would not be 100% private
( Verge, the dogecoin + tor nodes coin as i call it, claims that it is 100% private even though I can check each address' amounts and transactions on their block explorer. I know i am being mean but i am a bad person what can i say )

Ok, So I can only check my balance on my desktop wallet? Why have an address search on a blockchain explorer if it is not functional?

It doesnt say address, it says stealth address
Read the below
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1500/what-is-a-stealth-address
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 02, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
Having some problems,  my address is not appearing on the block chain explorer?

Sumoo3YYVncPV2T9kqZZMZWk8keXzvMaG8Vn1mtHBHTmA4Tz48u1SFy9MM26AFA28kWgnbJPqdDmV5r UhNT2HyRYh9TZCV8WZVb

Any ideas?

Edit: Actually I cant get any sumo address to show in the block explorer, including the dev wallets. Do i have to have the blockchain synced on the computer I am using to view?

You cannot search by address on the block chain explorer, this is why there is no rich list for Sumokoin or Monero. It's part of the chain's privacy. If you could check each address's transaction on the explorer Sumokoin would not be 100% private
( Verge, the dogecoin + tor nodes coin as i call it, claims that it is 100% private even though I can check each address' amounts and transactions on their block explorer. I know i am being mean but i am a bad person what can i say )
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 02, 2017, 04:39:15 AM

It seems the cheerleaders/lackeys on here are invoking convenient amnesia when something does not go in their favor. Again, where in the Sumokoin Roadmap is the "not too hard to implement" cold wallet/offline signing feature that "will be implemented very soon"?


Is the GUI wallet eventually going to have a cold wallet/offline signing feature if it doesn't already?


Not yet. We try not to implement advanced/rare-used features in first few versions. If someone really wants to use them, I think, he can easily start command-line wallet for now

It is an advanced feature but I don't think that it is rarely used. In fact, it is a must for cryptocurrencies. If you implement it, users will used it to secure their tokens. Don't wait until people start losing their coins. Wallets for the top coins have such a feature. It should be standard.


Thanks for advice. It's not too hard to implement, we'll need another tab on UI for advanced features, I think.


These proposed "smart" implementations are nice and cool albeit geek stuff. However, it's pointless to have them if the primary use case (i.e. functioning as cash) is not allowed to gain a foothold first and foremost. Transacting with (fiat) cash is easily accomplished P2P (person-to-person) and "on the go" by simply handing over physical notes to someone in exchange for goods/services or in conducting other forms of trading. Unfortunately, we can't do the same with cryptos. The closest thing would be to utilize a device that most (if not all) people already carry with them all the time -- mobile phones. In fact, we already transact with fiat currencies through these devices nowadays.

I hope the devs will not lose focus and deploy first and foremost the tools/apps that matter at this stage which are:

1. a simple, reliable, secure and private mobile wallet that connects to a trusted and secure node by default (for user friendliness out of the box) with an option to connect to a private node running at home or other locations that the user has control over (for advanced/paranoid users)

2. GUI cold wallet/offline signing implementation so that users don't start losing their stash while in the process of accumulating tokens.

Smart features could then follow thereafter...when Sumo will have achieved a relative degree of mass adoption. Otherwise, it will just be another speculative blockchain-based token like everything else before it (hopefully the devs have learned this lesson). Believe it or not, BTC's value/market cap is still largely fueled by speculation after eight years running and not by its touted primary use case which is as cash or cash-like. Which businesses/sevices/goods can you pay with BTC on a day to day basis to date?



1. Lite/mobile wallets are our priority at next stage.

2. GUI cold wallet signed/transfer will be implemented very soon.

Thanks for input.





Why are you always so provocative? You ve proposed a nice feature, I see from you last posts in other threads that this is a feature that you really want it implemented on a coin, Bill agreed that it is a nice idea indeed and said that he will implement it.

Bill is just one of the 4 devs that deals mainly with the coin's front end why dont you speak with him directly and remind him that he agreed to incorporate a GUI cold wallet signing before transfers and ask him if he has any news about it and why wasnt it included on the roadmap.

Using words such as lackeys and implying that devs are diverting from the coin's scheduled development just because they ve agreed 4 months ago that one of your ideas was nice and good to be applied is quite unfair.

Anyway Bill we'll see your message and reply regarding the cold wallet transfer signing I just wanted to comment on the way you post by meaning no offense
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: November 01, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
Hello, could anyone explain me what are subaddresses, please?

In order not to confuse you with complicated tech stuff I ll give you a general description.
Subaddresses is like an one-off, disposable address you can create with your wallet (some people might object with the word disposable but that's the easiest word to use) which is different from your main wallet receiving address and offer it to the person that is going to send you Sumokoins.
You can give this person a different sub address each time, created by you, and all his payments will appear on your wallet without ever disclosing your main receiving address
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 31, 2017, 04:46:50 AM

Your emotional responses have always been very entertaining. I must thank you.

You forgot to mention that this is your last post in this thread cause you have better things to do.
For the sake of good order kindly edit your last message


I'm bored already, so I'll shut up for a while.


There are just too many scam coins with premine including Ethereum of course. Posting here is already enough for me.

I really should stop posting.

And dont deny it in order for you to know that sumoshi usualy replies in an emotional way you hang around this project more often than we do.
You are a Sumokoin honorary member
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 05:22:07 PM


 Cheesy
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
By the way stoffu I ll stop replying as well just one final note. If you knew who Sumoshi and Haruto really are you would have at least the same respect as you have for Bill. Anyway no point in arguing all's fine.
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 04:55:19 PM
I'm posting one last time because I have a bit special respect for billaue:

I think from your narrow-minded viewpoints many coins could be called "scam" and you never mind repeating that everyday just to show your pride as a dev from Monero. But you know, the more you talked, the less I respect you, no matter what you've contributed to Monero (which itself is a respectable project).

I may very well be narrow-minded, but I'm 100% sure about this: the most important principle for a cryptocurrency is decentralization of trust. That's why Bitcoin was born, and that's what Monero and other very few legitimate coins stand upon. Any sort of premine just goes right against that principle, no matter what. Developments may need funding, but it can be collected through donations and other ways. Premine as a development fund is just wrong because it creates a special privilege for those controlling the premined coins. Every single effort should be made to decentralize any trust. In fact, Bitcoin and Monero are completely trustless.

I think you're ignorant of this important truth. I admire your skill as a developer (the Python-based GUI wallet and the miner look well engineered), but I believe you're being fooled by Sumoshi. I remember you mentioned previously that you weren't really strongly for or against the idea of premine. I guess your main interest has been only in the programming aspect, but your contribution as a developer will not be fully appreciated if you are on a wrong project.

Sumoshi will contact Monero devs for donation. I hope you guys will accept it but we never need your recognition.

One doesn't need to contact Monero devs nor obtain a permission to make a donation. The donation address is known in public.

stoffu are you really trying to persuade our devs to leave Sumokoin to join another project?Huh? Make up your mind! I think you are really fond of Sumokoin development and potential and your only problem is the premine. We like you independent views and from what i ve read on git your support and tech skills are excellent. Maybe you should join us. What do you think?
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
Sumokoin's DEV clearly stated that they respect Monero and they even collect donations. So imho there is no competition between xmr and sumo.

1) There have been no proof of donation to Monero.
2) Donating to Monero doesn't magically make Sumokoin legitimate. It's a scam.

Stoffu please stick with Monero that apparently you support and love and I dont blame you for that and stop considering Sumokoin as a threat.
It is not. However it makes me happy to know that a so "knowledgable" Monero person ( you are all over Monero's git trying to solve Monero users issues ) considers a 7 months old coin a threat ( although I repeat it is not a threat to Monero ).

I find it kind of fun to disrupt this scam and see scammers' reactions. I know it's a waste of time for me, but sometimes I can't help.

Yes, ok you are performing a psychological experiment but you are damaging Monero in the process due to your adherence with it.
If anyone checks your profile will easily find out that you are a Monero enthusiast and barking scam in our thread will damage not yours but Monero's reputation. You are becoming a " Verge " guy
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 09:23:05 AM
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1) There have been no proof of donation to Monero.
2) Donating to Monero doesn't magically make Sumokoin legitimate. It's a scam.

The only thing here that is a scam is you my friend. Keep on posting  Cheesy I love you.

Both points 1) and 2) are facts. How can I be scamming?

None of your posts ever contained any facts. But hey - do what you have to do!

It is a fact that Sumokoin has 10% premine, and that there have been no proof of donation to Monero. Do you deny it?

It is also a fact that Ethereum has a 17% premine but I dont see you on their thread shouting scam. Is there a particular reason for you being so eager to receive the donation to Monero? No one set a date for the donation, why you worry so much about it? Its something we want to do, you are making it sound like Monero Project asked us to
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 30, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Sumokoin's DEV clearly stated that they respect Monero and they even collect donations. So imho there is no competition between xmr and sumo.

1) There have been no proof of donation to Monero.
2) Donating to Monero doesn't magically make Sumokoin legitimate. It's a scam.

Stoffu please stick with Monero that apparently you support and love and I dont blame you for that and stop considering Sumokoin as a threat.
It is not. However it makes me happy to know that such a "knowledgable" Monero person ( you are all over Monero's git trying to solve Monero users issues ) considers a 7 months old coin a threat ( although I repeat it is not a threat to Monero ).
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 29, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
I'm trying to understand the whole project, but the only differences from monero seems to be the nice UI/UX programs and some minor(unnecessary) parameters changes, yet a big premine. Also this sentence "Sumokoin aims at stability while Monero gets breakthroughs via a series of hardforks (that may put some pressure on exchanges/payment services). It does not mean there won't be any hardfork in Sumokoin, but not in near future (probably not in years).", this doesn't seems like an advantage for you.

Moreover, i dont even see this as backup, because we already have Boolberry, Aeon, and even Karbowanec, with 0% premine.

I would suggest to study the roadmap and take a closer look to the coin's development. Indeed for anyone hitting upon the coin by chance the first impression created is similar to yours.

Im indeed wants to come in to the project, but again, i dont see significantly changes from the upstream to suceed my interest, please TL;DR to your words, so i can have a reference @sumogr.

If it's ok, in order not to repeat the same things again i ll paste you the reply i gave to another crypto enthousiast at Sumokoin's mining thread

It was an overstatement.

There are no major differences between Sumokoin and Monero besides the pow diff algo ( which in my very humble opinion is better and more responsive than all cryptonight coins, giving a hard time to cpu farms and botnets thus making the coin more profitable to miners https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10 ), the RingCT from the start (thus having no traceable legacy in its blockchain), the 12 mixins from day one (which is an overkill in terms of privacy) and the better emission scheme (this last one is just a personal and subjective opinion of mine, i cannot prove it).

Sumokoin is only 6 months old but it has a solid GUI wallet for all OSs ( Windows, Linux, Mac ), its very profitable to mine ( most of the time it is the most profitable cryptonight coin on whattomine ), has a nice, big community, lots of pools ( www.sumopools.com ), will implement subaddresses in the next GUI version the following month ( so will Monero I guess ), a very good roadmap and 4 devs that have proven their skill up to now and they deliver on what they promise on time.

We strive to grow alongside Monero and not against it. There is no competition whatsoever. Monero will always be the first and 100% private cryptonote based coin and will be a pioneer in all future developments. Our devs strive to follow Monero's path and wherever they think its possible improve and implement some of its features
Very nice, thanks for explanation Smiley I will more look at it by myself.
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 29, 2017, 05:28:29 PM
I'm trying to understand the whole project, but the only differences from monero seems to be the nice UI/UX programs and some minor(unnecessary) parameters changes, yet a big premine. Also this sentence "Sumokoin aims at stability while Monero gets breakthroughs via a series of hardforks (that may put some pressure on exchanges/payment services). It does not mean there won't be any hardfork in Sumokoin, but not in near future (probably not in years).", this doesn't seems like an advantage for you.

Moreover, i dont even see this as backup, because we already have Boolberry, Aeon, and even Karbowanec, with 0% premine.

I would suggest to study the roadmap and take a closer look to the coin's development. Indeed for anyone hitting upon the coin by chance the first impression created is similar to yours.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mine Sumokoin ! One of the most profitable coins at the moment... on: October 28, 2017, 10:46:32 AM
I like this coin and think it has a lot of potential as a rival to Monero. Too bad I can't mine it because my computers are too slow...

Its not a rival to Monero or any other coin. It's based on Monero , being a fork of it, so it has all the benefits of Monero plus the improvements the coin's devs are adding on it. If it wasn't for Monero, Sumokoin wouldn't exist.
We are very happy that you like it though and we too believe that Sumokoin has lots of potential Wink
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mine Sumokoin ! One of the most profitable coins at the moment... on: October 28, 2017, 10:42:31 AM
Hej guys... the block reward changes soon! I am excited  Grin
When is it exactly? I know it's after 6 months but don't know the exact date. Is there some countdown?

http://cpp.sh/6eeyr
The script to simulate Sumokoin block reward emission

Block      Reward
65745      36.45
131490    41.97
197235    48.59
262980    56.28
328725    65.07
394470    74.93
460215    85.89
525960    97.92
591705    85.15
657450    74.47
723195    65.13
788940    56.97
854685    49.82
920430    43.58
986175    38.11
1051920  33.33
1117665  29.15
1183410  25.50
1249155  22.30
1314900  19.50
1380645  17.06
1446390  14.92
1512135  13.05
1577880  11.41
1643625   9.98
1709370   8.73
1775115   7.63
1840860   6.68
1906605   5.84
1972350   5.11
2038095   4.47
2103840   4.00
2169585   4.00
2235330   4.00
2301075   4.00
2366820   4.00
2432565   4.00
2498310   4.00
2564055   4.00
2616405   4.00
Well, you got me, you did this? Wait, are you one of the SUMO developer? I love it Cheesy

lol no i am not. Devs did this, its on the coin's ann post  Grin
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mine Sumokoin ! One of the most profitable coins at the moment... on: October 27, 2017, 07:35:07 PM
Hej guys... the block reward changes soon! I am excited  Grin
When is it exactly? I know it's after 6 months but don't know the exact date. Is there some countdown?

http://cpp.sh/6eeyr
The script to simulate Sumokoin block reward emission

Block      Reward
65745      36.45
131490    41.97
197235    48.59
262980    56.28
328725    65.07
394470    74.93
460215    85.89
525960    97.92
591705    85.15
657450    74.47
723195    65.13
788940    56.97
854685    49.82
920430    43.58
986175    38.11
1051920  33.33
1117665  29.15
1183410  25.50
1249155  22.30
1314900  19.50
1380645  17.06
1446390  14.92
1512135  13.05
1577880  11.41
1643625   9.98
1709370   8.73
1775115   7.63
1840860   6.68
1906605   5.84
1972350   5.11
2038095   4.47
2103840   4.00
2169585   4.00
2235330   4.00
2301075   4.00
2366820   4.00
2432565   4.00
2498310   4.00
2564055   4.00
2616405   4.00
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mine Sumokoin ! One of the most profitable coins at the moment... on: October 25, 2017, 11:39:17 AM
Sumokoin is just Monero with other name... I don't see bright future. I much more like AEON.

That is not true at all  Grin Even though Sumo is very young, there already are a few major differences  Wink
Tell me the major differences pls.

It was an overstatement.

There are no major differences between Sumokoin and Monero besides the pow diff algo ( which in my very humble opinion is better and more responsive than all cryptonight coins, giving a hard time to cpu farms and botnets thus making the coin more profitable to miners https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10 ), the RingCT from the start (thus having no traceable legacy in its blockchain), the 12 mixins from day one (which is an overkill in terms of privacy) and the better emission scheme (this last one is just a personal and subjective opinion of mine, i cannot prove it).

Sumokoin is only 6 months old but it has a solid GUI wallet for all OSs ( Windows, Linux, Mac ), its very profitable to mine ( most of the time it is the most profitable cryptonight coin on whattomine ), has a nice, big community, lots of pools ( www.sumopools.com ), will implement subaddresses in the next GUI version the following month ( so will Monero I guess ), a very good roadmap and 4 devs that have proven their skill up to now and they deliver on what they promise on time.

We strive to grow alongside Monero and not against it. There is no competition whatsoever. Monero will always be the first and 100% private cryptonote based coin and will be a pioneer in all future developments. Our devs strive to follow Monero's path and wherever they think its possible improve and implement some of its features
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: October 24, 2017, 02:24:13 PM
@Xeon-Xeon:

I couldn't make the SumoGUIWallet to work in ubuntu 16.04...
I followed the instructions here:
https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet

Compiled everything correctly blabla and when opening a get the following error:

">python wallet.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wallet.py", line 8, in <module>
    from main import main
  File "/SumoGUIWallet/main.py", line 17, in <module>
    from app.hub import Hub
  File "/SumoGUIWallet/app/hub.py", line 34, in <module>
    from manager.ProcessManager import WalletCliManager
  File "/SumoGUIWallet/manager/ProcessManager.py", line 24, in <module>
    from rpc import WalletRPCRequest
  File "/SumoGUIWallet/rpc/__init__.py", line 11, in <module>
    import requests, json
ImportError: No module named requests"

Any ideas what could be...??

Thanks!

Dont bother compiling it. There is a tar.gz2 prebuilt version that works fine. Either wait for Bill to post the link here (he might do it today) or join telegram and download it from the link at the pinned message.
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