So that's why NEO price is rising very much. The price has increased more than 35% in past 24 hours !! This is happening while many other altcoins are falling.
And as of yet this is still only speculation.. NEO has always been revered to be the Chinese ethereum and with the full support of Chinese regulators could really start to challenge ethereum. China is such a huge market that any monopoly on it would be a massive coup. It looks to me like it was all planned from the beginning. China is not banning ICOs, they are just taking control over it. They are banning other cryptos they can not control is a better guess imo. I also heard that they are banning BTC mining, but they allow BCH mining. Can someone back that up, please?? |
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Dammit!! No french, no Dutch and no Spanish...  I'm gonna need to start learning some Chinese!! |
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I'm surprise this thread already has 298 pages and it's only over three weeks old and everything is not set up yet, this is the most hype thread in this forum,I don't know how many more pages that is going to be created when the wallet is up and roadmap are implemented this has got to be the most talked about ico this year.
If it keep going like this, I am going to become a "Legendary Super Hero Member" in one topic, and all I want my coins  ... |
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Ok... no. Just no.
I'm out, this is really a bad show. Sorry for investor's money, this is not funny
A Monero rebrand that fakes Mobile mining, that's just ridiculous and brazen.
Lawsuit imminent?
From what I've been reading, I think some invetors are taking the first steps towards lawsuit... And with coinmarketcap that recently removed their market cap, this is without a doubt the "ICO" of the year!! |
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The concept is definitely new and achieving your own Blockchain is definitely a excellent part of this ICO. But as I have checked there are lots of issues about mobile app set up and utilization. When are we able to see a full-fledged complete application.?
It was planned for the first of this month, and now they are speaking about four more weeks... |
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Someone needs to put an end @ this... SOON others will be joining China, making it impossible for LEGIT projects to ever see the daylight.
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Enjoy the mining party boys!. I recovered already my 2 btc ICO investment in mining alone plus huge profit. Hope they lock ICO coins a lot longer. Mine mine mine then dump dump dump.I surely dump my ICO coins once I get a hold of it. Profit already made and my ICO coins still intact.  Loving this coin so much. Congratulations!! You just won the first price in selfishness and everything that's wrong with the world. You are the perfect example of the worst kind of human being that this earth has to offer. At least you are the best at something, I guess I should say, "nice work"... The most commented topic on this website this whole month, and you just thought to come by and make fun of those who are losing their investments, the money where they worked for. And while you are one of those who is making a profit of. I bet when your parents see what you've become today, they wish they've never met each other, am I wrong? I hope you enjoy your coins, I really do. Because there's a day that the same thing is going to happen to you like will happen to all of us. And that day you are gonna be the one receiving everything you deserve, realizing that you are not so special anymore. There's always a place in hell for people like you. Enjoy your coins... |
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If this ICO was a scam, the devs would have already been gone with the money.  This is United Kingdom based token they have office and the teams are known people so a suit is incoming if they cannot fulfill their promise, but judging from their facebook page they are doing their best, but a few more days and they are up to big suit and they will be all prosecuted. Ok if no scam then how about send investor coins to their paper wallet ?? What is the excuse on why they cant do this ? Dev team was just talking how everyone should use paper wallets 100% secure etc. you dont have a paper wallet until you create one. And to do that, you must get in and create one...but there is an hacker attack, so hackers can enter you account and create a paper wallet for you. And if electroneum send your money to that wallet paper that was created by the hackers in your account, you lose the coins That's how i see it.... Hackers everywhere everything is so unsafe . But Electroneum was 100% unhackable turing the ICO . Now suddenly hackers everywhere. Soon there will be Russian hackers and Putin stole all the ETN. Stupidity has no end ! Putin and Russian hackers  lol, or "Mr robot" they are gonna come-up next with... Those ICO's are getting out of control. Wallets that "freeze" almost 300 million, It wouldn't surprise me if they suddenly decide to fork a new Ethereum out of this. Unhackable tokens that have a "hackable" website... The same game as in the outer world, the richer get's richer, and we are the one filling their pockets. 10 years ago thefts needed to go out and confront the one they were about to steal. In today's world, people just learn how to code and do an ICO, or they hide behind their screen to steal from others. Welcome to evolution... All cowards!! |
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You surely got a problem, if you are a newbie. Pls don’t act smart.
As what David CEO of indorse already wrote in your medium comment section.
The wallet that you posted holds token allocated for marketing and bounties. This is norm for every project. At least ask first before you create a FUD
And please promote your f project elsewhere.
It just a disgusting method of trying to lure people to your site . By trying to create fud and defame others.
Don't you worry, I don't have any project s in mind and like I said, the community will decide of those two accounts over here are what you guys say they are... You guys think that everyone wants to copy some smart contract and do an ICO , you guys would be like "If you want money, go do an ICO..." HAHAHA. No thanks, I don't have any major scam going on. If I do this, it's just because I think it's the right thing to do and it helps me sleep better to know that lot of people are going to read my comments and think twice before investing in this project, that's all. Yes, you are right, I have a thing against criminals also. Acting smart is for smart people, me, I know I'm not smart, which is the reason I educate myself every day some more  . I think you should try "Grammarly", a nice extension that helps you track the mistakes in your grammar... By the way, my site is only for next year or so, don't even know when in fact. I just thought it was a nice name to have, so I buy it. I don't even know what the content it's going to be, so your "theory" about a project is WRONG, you are just mad I posted which I can understand, and to be honest when I saw that nobody answered I thought you guys were on the run already... Thanks for your kindly input, very nice to chat with you. We should do this again sometime. But first I gonna ask for you to get your head out of your ASS, it's not very healthy to live like that . Keep it up!! With your "bounty" stuff, don't make me laugh. And we still don't know why people got 3 tokens for 6 weeks of promoting your project by the way... Cause I'm a "newbie" (lol) I will let the community decide if those 2 addresses are for your "bounty stuff." " https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x0097ec8840e682d058b24e6e19e68358d97a6e5c" " https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x72002915559a0b586e8b71349f15679a9e784d22" |
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Update from the team, They rented hackerone...   And they are taking care of things now...  Our tokens should be available very soon... |
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I would like to let the community decide whether this project is a scam or not, based on the research I've done. I would like someone to tell me if I should be reporting this to this community or not. I know you guys are very “exigent” when it comes to “newbies”, which I can understand based on the kind of Individuals who are part of this community. (No offense to the Honest ones). But this doesn’t take away the fact that some of us know how to spot some criminal activities in this community. And to be honest, this is the second account I have over here, which I opened to promote my website https://beblocktech.com/ (not yet online), and this is my other account: "norrisr". As you can see, it’s been over 8 months I’m over here, and if I’m a "newbie," it’s a choice, it's because I decided to do my homework before posting any crap. The last 6 months I’ve been teaching myself how to code. After some basic Python and some JS, I started to play around with smart contracts and to invest in some of them. Of course, if I am here today is because "I THINK," that I’ve spotted some “illegal,” (if we can call it like that), or at least, "Immoral" activities behind the creators of the DAPP, and to be more specific, the addresses linked to the deployment of the contract are the ones who got my attention. So, please, correct me if I’m wrong, make fun of me if you like, tell me I'm paranoid, tell me if you want me to delete this post and I will. But keep also in mind that this is something that MAYBE, the newbie is right about + we need to post something to get up in rang, so, this is me making my first post if you like, after 8 months. I gonna also apologize in advance for some potential errors in my grammar that you may encounter while reading through this post. One of the other reasons that it took me so long to post something is because of my English skills. It's been only six months that I’m using English on a regular basis, and only for coding purposes. People tend to make fun of me for my English skills, without realizing that someone who doesn’t speak fluent English speaks for certainty another Language. I speak perfectly three other languages in my daily life (Spanish, French, and Dutch). That being said, let’s dive into what "I THINK" is a scam; “Indorse” team deployed a contract 91 days ago; " https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcfd8dbbcec968a96295faf6668baf4da47619c31fe4fbe36fe218a0713bb0b72". I think we can all agree on that. And as you can see, the tokens got distributed between 7 accounts. This is one of those accounts; " https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x0097ec8840e682d058b24e6e19e68358d97a6e5c". This does mean that this address is linked to one of the creators of the contract, am I right? And not to some "Early adopter," or to some other "Big Wale." I hope we can all agree on that. So if we are all on the same page my question is very simple and goes as follows: IF, that address is linked to the deployment of the contract, AND, since this address is selling tokens like if it was some kind of “big wale,” AND that address is trading with another address that got his tokens as an “Early investor”, does this back-up the fact that something strange is going on here. We already saw that the address mentioned above is in possession of his token from the day of the deployment of the contract, which means, that he got them for free. Are we all ok with that? Ok ok ok, the price for the deployment of the smart contract, 0,0... ether, let's not forget that. I noticed this when following another address, the one people were speaking about in the forum. Saying it was some other “Chinese big wale”, this one here; “https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x72002915559a0b586e8b71349f15679a9e784d22” and correct me if I’m wrong, I think it’s a bot , and is linked to this one over here; “https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x1428452bff9f56d194f63d910cb16e745b9ee048.” I followed a few of them, and at least the one I visited, are all new accounts... That “Big Wale”, who also got his tokens as one of the first contributors, backing-up my theory where I explained why someone would sell his tokens under the market price. You can find this one on the Indorse announcement page. Where I decided to confront them with the fact that I think this project is a scam. “https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047503.540” (Is there any other decent word for "scam"  ) Now let's talk about the team, the one they introduced on Medium “https://medium.com/crypt-bytes-tech/ico-review-indorse-7f7b64566eba”, is not the same as the team on their website. “https://indorse.io/” They even made mistakes with the roles distribution. While on their website the team consists of one senior developer, go find out why the heck on Medium they have two of them? They have two Senior Developers and a Smart Contract developer that doesn't even exist on their website, and who has never been on GitHub. -Harsh Nene went from Product Advisor to Senior Developer, -Gaurang Torvekar went from co-Founder to Technical Lead or the other way around... I could go on like this but go ahead, and have a look by yourself to the team on Medium and the team on their website. Another thing who got my attention is that the only one who has ever been present on GitHub is the founder himself... " https://github.com/orgs/indorseio/people". Except for this one time, like a month ago, when the co-founder showed up on GitHub and "updated" the contract... " https://github.com/indorseio/tokensale/commit/b9f062c20988d350353e867d872143c81decc284#diff-1b1fd45ce4d28644ae168ae72f422cf2". I think it's my right as an investor in this project to know what’s going on here. I am not an experienced programmer, just yet, but I think that I have the right to share my findings and speak up for myself and other investors in this project. You can correct me if you like and I will appreciate it. But I think that we don’t have to be some kind of “genius” to follow a few smart contract addresses and see that they are trading with each other, or selling tokens that they got for free if you like. Backing-up my theory that this project is just another scam. All the comments are appreciated and please tell me if I’m wrong, however, I always take the time to answer some of the common ones in advance, like a Q&A section to spare some time for the reader, or an FAQ if you prefer. This is how it goes; -I can’t understand your post, it’s very hard to read your English: -Follow the numbers, numbers don’t lie, and DAPPs neither. -There’s one guy over there that told me to “get a life”. What I like to tell to such people is very simple; -If doing the things that we think are the right thing to do towards the community around us is a waste of time, they should meditate a little about this and find a real purpose in their life. The problem nowadays is not the bad guys out there, it’s us, we see all that wrong going and in the worst case scenario, we decide to participate, and in the best one, we tend to look the other way around. We think we are too little to make any difference and I like to show those peoples that we are not! -I really like this one: Why are you doing this? Spreading FUD is not gonna help recover the price. Hahaha, also very simple; -Even if I’m here for the same reason as all of us, to make some, I am not the one who is going to sell his soul to evil for money, not for a piece of paper. And my soul is not for sale by the way. I just find an incredible joy in helping the others around me, that’s all. Ok, and in spotting criminals also. Some of you out there should give it a try. And it also happens to be that I invested in this project, people were telling me there would be Lambo’s if I “HODL”, and it looks like there are not! At least, they can not say that I didn't do my own research… I got trapped by those guys over here, after that, Electronium started to play around. Yesterday(11/7), the “hack”. Add to that a few exchanges that made my life difficult over the past few months and there you go, you have a guy like me who takes the time to write his first post EVER, in a language he never used before, and towards a very, very, exigent community. ________________________ I know that most people are always asking you guys, “BTC-talkers”, to be soft with them when they make their first post. Me, I'm a bit different, I like it the other way around… Be hard on me, don’t spare me, let your imagination go beyond the unthinkable and go ahead, put me back where I belong if that’s what you think I deserve. Just keep in mind that for people like me, it’s just another stepping stone, a motivation to seek for answers I still don’t own, it builds up character! You can also try to explain to me where I'm wrong if that's an option . Let the comments flow!!! |
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so I sold my Indorse tokens after a while holding. I couldn't but wonder why is the price so low despite being a good project with a team that regularly updates on their progress. It came to my attention that it is probably their IND token valuation. See Vitalik's post here: http://vitalik.ca/general/2017/10/17/moe.htmlbasically, IND tokens have no inherent value, despite being the token of choice to be used in their system. The post highlights how this model does not guarantee that the IND token price goes up with more usage of the Indore platform, on the contrary it might even go down. Meaning even if the company and their project becomes successful, that success doesn't necessarily reflect on the price of the IND token. So the company formed their ICO in such a way to collect money from investors without offering any value to their tokens. They made it clear in their whitepaper that this is the case, yet many people hoped the contrary. Good luck to the indorse team, and hard-luck to all the investors. That's not all mate, if you knew what I have found out about this project. I'm writing a post about it that will bring light to this whole situation. I'm just tired of being scammed all over the place I guess  , so now, I'm taking all of the ones who took my money down with me  . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565038.20If people think I'm wrong once I show them the result of my research, I rather have them call me crazy. Better that, then the punishment I will be inflicting my soul for not doing the right thing when I had the opportunity to so. INVESTORS, this guy is giving us good advice. I think we should listen to him. I seriously don't want to break the party but the things I've found about this project are way beyond of what I've mentioned before. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047503.540" There is some serious stuff going on over here. So if you choose to look over it, again, don't go complain that nobody told you so. And @INDORSE, SHAME ON YOU! And this is something I am NOT, going to let go. I will post a link to the post I am about to share with the community over here, @Reddit, @Steemit, and @Medium. I'm making contact with others big names who could eventually speak about it on YouTube also, so if you were planning to run, NOW, it's about the right time to start doing so... Get a life man, blaming the team for your own investment decision, if the price is dip down , blame the market, market dictate the price. And the team answered your rant before this. Learn to read. And your accusation of money missing is clearly shown that you really don’t know The different between market cap and fund collected during ICO. understand first how coinmarketcap calculate the market cap. market cap = price x circulating supply. The amount the team collect in ICO have nothing to do with the current market cap. If you think this has something to do with the value of the token, with the market cap, or with some money that I lost, all I can say is "HAHAHA", it's just money dude, it comes, it goes, and I only invest what I can afford to lose... This is about doing what I think it's right, you should try that once in a while, it gives you a wonderful feeling. I gonna also politely propose you go and learn how to read a smart contract. Here is a nice place where you can start; " https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcfd8dbbcec968a96295faf6668baf4da47619c31fe4fbe36fe218a0713bb0b72" And while you're out there, take the time to learn how to follow some addresses linked to the deployment of that contract. Let me give you a hint; " https://etherscan.io/token/Indorse?a=0x0097ec8840e682d058b24e6e19e68358d97a6e5c" And tell me if it's the market who's dictating the price... And as last; "Only individuals linked to some kind of illegal activities would think that spotting criminals is a waste of time." Think twice before you post man. As for my concern, I'm having the time of my life!!! Keep it up! |
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so I sold my Indorse tokens after a while holding. I couldn't but wonder why is the price so low despite being a good project with a team that regularly updates on their progress. It came to my attention that it is probably their IND token valuation. See Vitalik's post here: http://vitalik.ca/general/2017/10/17/moe.htmlbasically, IND tokens have no inherent value, despite being the token of choice to be used in their system. The post highlights how this model does not guarantee that the IND token price goes up with more usage of the Indore platform, on the contrary it might even go down. Meaning even if the company and their project becomes successful, that success doesn't necessarily reflect on the price of the IND token. So the company formed their ICO in such a way to collect money from investors without offering any value to their tokens. They made it clear in their whitepaper that this is the case, yet many people hoped the contrary. Good luck to the indorse team, and hard-luck to all the investors. That's not all mate, if you knew what I have found out about this project. I'm writing a post about it that will bring light to this whole situation. I'm just tired of being scammed all over the place I guess , so now, I'm taking all of the ones who took my money down with me . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565038.20If people think I'm wrong once I show them the result of my research, I rather have them call me crazy. Better that, then the punishment I will be inflicting my soul for not doing the right thing when I had the opportunity to so. INVESTORS, this guy is giving us good advice. I think we should listen to him. I seriously don't want to break the party but the things I've found about this project are way beyond of what I've mentioned before. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047503.540" There is some serious stuff going on over here. So if you choose to look over it, again, don't go complain that nobody told you so. And @INDORSE, SHAME ON YOU! And this is something I am NOT, going to let go. I will post a link to the post I am about to share with the community over here, @Reddit, @Steemit, and @Medium. I'm making contact with others big names who could eventually speak about it on YouTube also, so if you were planning to run, NOW, it's about the right time to start doing so... Get a life man, blaming the team for your own investment decision, if the price is dip down , blame the market, market dictate the price. And the team answered your rant before this. Learn to read. And your accusation of money missing is clearly shown that you really don’t know The different between market cap and fund collected during ICO. understand first how coinmarketcap calculate the market cap. market cap = price x circulating supply. The amount the team collect in ICO have nothing to do with the current market cap. I am not blaming anyone for my investments, I'm still holding and I am ready to lose everything to prove my point. That you are stuck with your head between your legs is not my fault. If you don't like what you see here, it's very easy to scroll over... + I like pissing people like you off ... Thank you very much for your proposal, and actually, I think I found what I meant to do, bring such projects down. And you? What are you doing? Reacting to a stupid guy like me. For a smart guy like you, you should know better than that. Wait for at least that you read the post and go complaint after that. But now, you come over here and fuck with a guy who doesn't clearly give a damn about your thoughts . That you look the other way to fill your pockets it's up to you, go ahead and spend your life doing wrong and running behind a piece of paper, and go live in hell after that, after 20 years of experience with people like you, I don't blame you for that. But like I said, I am not gonna sit back and just watch this stuff going on. Thank you very much for your input. |
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So your verification came through.
1. Either buy your bitcoins with your deposited 100 euro...
2. Or refund the money to your bank account (which was possible al along)...
You're not accepting my help. We are not "HOLDING" your funds in any way.
Dammit! I guess my little game is over... And? Are you sure I am not "phishing" now?? Let's go check that out and see how long it takes to get them out of your platform so that you have never to deal with me again . How does that sound?? Please allow me a moment before doing so, I'm taking down @INDORSE for the moment. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047503.new#new". And yes, I know, with them is a bigger case so I will take some time in-between for my coins... |
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so I sold my Indorse tokens after a while holding. I couldn't but wonder why is the price so low despite being a good project with a team that regularly updates on their progress. It came to my attention that it is probably their IND token valuation. See Vitalik's post here: http://vitalik.ca/general/2017/10/17/moe.htmlbasically, IND tokens have no inherent value, despite being the token of choice to be used in their system. The post highlights how this model does not guarantee that the IND token price goes up with more usage of the Indore platform, on the contrary it might even go down. Meaning even if the company and their project becomes successful, that success doesn't necessarily reflect on the price of the IND token. So the company formed their ICO in such a way to collect money from investors without offering any value to their tokens. They made it clear in their whitepaper that this is the case, yet many people hoped the contrary. Good luck to the indorse team, and hard-luck to all the investors. That's not all mate, if you knew what I have found out about this project. I'm writing a post about it that will bring light to this whole situation. I'm just tired of being scammed all over the place I guess , so now, I'm taking all of the ones who took my money down with me . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565038.20If people think I'm wrong once I show them the result of my research, I rather have them call me crazy. Better that, then the punishment I will be inflicting my soul for not doing the right thing when I had the opportunity to so. INVESTORS, this guy is giving us good advice. I think we should listen to him. I seriously don't want to break the party but the things I've found about this project are way beyond of what I've mentioned before. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047503.540" There is some serious stuff going on over here. So if you choose to look over it, again, don't go complain that nobody told you so. And @INDORSE, SHAME ON YOU! And this is something I am NOT, going to let go. I will post a link to the post I am about to share with the community over here, @Reddit, @Steemit, and @Medium. I'm making contact with others big names who could eventually speak about it on YouTube also, so if you were planning to run, NOW, it's about the right time to start doing so... |
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I guess you've all noticed that English isn't my first language, it's only been six months that I'm using English and only for coding purposes. But like they say, "You should never make fun of someone who doesn't speak fluent English, you never know how many others languages he speaks." Me, I speak 3 other languages since the age of 10 on a daily basis. I started in English over here to make people aware of those guys over here services, but now, since they said that I am not gonna receive any tokens, and only God knows how many time I will be waiting for a refund. I decided to use my languages skills to inform others. I started over here " http://www.bitcoins-kopen.info/litebit/?review=succes" and made a post in Dutch with a link to this one here. Next step is the French community, and later, I will inform the Spanish community about your services. I am making time for you guys, I hope you appreciate it . Remember when I told you that you are not gonna get rid of me so easy, Imagine now how I felt once I knew you aren't gonna deliver. I end up without coins and with the BTC statement on my account and you think I'm gonna back up... lol. Talk to you soon... |
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