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281  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on [BTC-TC] on: June 26, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
informally poll shareholders here: Do you think we should purchase ~80gh Avalons for 80-90 coins each?

My vote is yes; they are supposed to be shipping very soon.

Cheers,
Garrett

How much do we have in the bank?
282  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 26, 2013, 07:16:34 PM
Basic-mining vote passed and it will be doing a 1/10 split not sure what effect this is gonna have.  I'm naive to what happens next in a 1/10 split but i'm interested to see since it represents a big part of the fund.

This is pretty common in the securities world.
Here is an example of a 10 for 1 split:

Before split
You have 25 shares. Each share is worth 1.00
Total value: 25.00

After split:
You have 250 shares. Each share is worth 0.10
Total value: 25.00


You don't gain or lose any value during a split. But the result is that shares are now "more affordable."
<Speculation>Usually after shares become more "affordable" more people generally tend to buy.</speculation>


Any other MiningCo.ETF shareholders interested? Would you vote "yes" to allowing underlying mining assets where shareholders do not own the equipment?

I think as long as you can assure potential/shareholders that MININGCO will stay away from the likes of Virtualmine, until you can buy in at a pre defined dividend %, i see no problem.


I will be taking a deeper look into this. It certainly would diversify our portfolio.

EDIT: Nicely managed and presented, BTW.  Smiley


Thanks for the kind words.


I think some kind of motion is certainly called for, because unless I'm missing something (and I may well be), does Nastyfans even fit into MiningCo's contract at present?  My understanding of Nastyfans was that in a (utterly transparent) attempt to avoid contravening securities regulation, we only hold "seats" in a "fanclub" to which OgNasty "donates" bitcoin on a regular basis.  So there isn't even technically a contractual obligation on OgNasty's part, let alone any kind of property interest in his mining equipment.

This is all true. The original Nasty Mining asset (from GLBSE) was a mining company where the shareholders owned the equipment.
Today, it is a "fan club" exactly as you say. It is structured this way to avoid any potential regulation issues.

By the way, Carnth, I'd like to add that I think you're doing a fabulous job with this fund and I am very excited for its future.
(Just to put my current criticism of one aspect of the fund in its proper, positive context Smiley )
Bought few shares Smiley

Thank you very much.
283  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 26, 2013, 02:39:57 AM
Total dividends of 0.20818809 will be paid this week.

This is about 0.00120340 per share with an instant annual dividend yield of 7.11%


GMP is slowly recovering, but all other underlying assets have skyrocketed on news that Avalon and BFL continue to ship. Especially bASIC-MINING since it has received TWO ASIC devices in one week.

This has caused the NAV per share to increase to BTC0.88




It certainly has been busy.
MiningCo.ETF has never seen so much action in a week.

With good news on Avalon and BFL delivering, underlying assets are doing well dividend wise. bASIC-MINING almost doubled in value after they received their first Avalon, and then it almost doubled again after getting their second.

We have all been waiting for the ASICs to be delivered "soon," and it looks like it is finally here.

I have updated the historical values on the spreadsheet and included historical entire NAV and outstanding shares. I hope the extra performance data gives a little more transparency. Plus I think the graphs are cool too.

In case anyone overlooked, the spreadsheet also contains a Dividend Ledger sheet.
There you can keep track of all the dividends accrued, payouts, and fees collected.



MiningCo.ETF is available on BTCT.co and as a pass-through on BitFunder.
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284  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 26, 2013, 02:19:05 AM
Carnth, have you considered Havelock's HIM fund lately?  While it is referred to as a "fund", it operates more or less like Cognitive and bASIC-mining, although I suppose technically based on the prospectus the equipment is owned by Havelock Investments and not the fund's unitholders, so perhaps it does not meet MiningCo's selection criteria. (I will say though, that in bitcoinland it seems that proven trustworthiness and transparency are more valuable than apparent legal "rights".)


You are correct that MiningCo.ETF's asset contract specifies where ownership of equipment lies with the shareholders.
I'm not opposed to new assets to include in the fund but HIM would require MiningCo.ETF's asset contract to be changed. And that would mean a Motion.

Any other MiningCo.ETF shareholders interested? Would you vote "yes" to allowing underlying mining assets where shareholders do not own the equipment?

I originally put "shareholders own equipment" in the contract because it gives some inherent value to the underlying asset. The asset is valued for the equipment and the dividends it generates.
Other mining assets can only be valued for the dividends they generate. Which is not a bad thing. But that's the difference between a mining stock and a PMB (perpetual mining bond).
285  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 26, 2013, 01:41:43 AM
There's a growth fund built into bASIC-MINING's contract as it stands
...
The growth fund(or Reinvestment Fund) was suspended by shareholder vote on 12/29/12 after delays to the original ASIC hardware shipment
...
we have received nearly twice the hashing power it would've provided had BTCFPGA not gone south.


I would you like to raise that the Reinvestment fund be reinstated (if it isn't already).

The mining power we now have more than covers it.
286  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 25, 2013, 05:10:39 AM
UPDATE:

A second Avalon has been obtained by bASIC-MINING. Details to follow.

I demand MOAR pics.

And I also want to throw out Fireduck's Horrible Horrendous  mining pool again. I say we give it a week and see how it goes. Lower fees are nice.

After thinking it over: Shareholders may not want to go that route.  Undecided
287  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [500 GH/s]HHTT -Selected Diff/Stratum/PPLNS/Paid Stales/High Availability/Tor on: June 24, 2013, 10:12:58 PM
1.8 TH/s and even a little more...   Cool

is anybody here able to update thread title?

Only OP can  Undecided ... or mod.
288  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 21, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Are you considering other pools (e.g. with PPS) or do you plan to stick with BitParking only?

Creativex, while we are throwing out pools, have you considered:
The Horrible Horrendous Terrible Tremendous Mining Pool

PPLNS, with user defined share difficulty. The higher the diff, the lower the fee. Plus if you find a block, the pool splits half the TX fees with you.

After thinking it over: the only problem is, it's a smaller pool so there will be some variance.  Undecided
289  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 20, 2013, 08:21:56 PM
Any chance you will have shares on Bitfunder?


You can purchase MiningCo.ETF pass-through shares on Bitfunder.
MiningCo.ETF is a fund that holds shares in bASIC-MINING, as well as others.

Details here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134389.0
290  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 20, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
This has caused the NAV per share to decrease to BTC0.77

The spreadsheet shows you have bASIC-MINNING at 0.75, the 7 day average is 0.7112 and then you have the NAV at 0.78, I know it will get there over the next week, but can't front run Smiley


It has been a very unique series of events that occurred one right after the other.

Here's what happened:
Before I made my weekly dividend post, I removed the fund's sell wall from the market. I don't normally do that, but I did this week. I did this because the NAV went down I wanted to give a chance for the other shareholders who are selling to lower their price first.
Next, I made my weekly dividend post.
Then bASIC announced that they received their Avalon.
I knew this would have a drastic effect on the price, so I checked the latest price and updated the spreadsheet with "last price" instead of the usual 7 day average.
All the while, I still did not restore the buy wall on btct.co or Bitfunder.
There was no intent for MiningCo.ETF to front run as MiningCo.ETF never had any shares up for sale.

Ironically, between your post and now--there has been so much volume on bASIC-MINING that the 7 day average price is actually higher then my spreadsheet.

The usual sell wall will be restored in the next couple of hours on both btct.co and Bitfunder. And they will be priced as usual using the NAV calculated with 7 day averages from the underlying assets.
291  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 20, 2013, 05:38:44 PM
I'd also like to begin phasing out our less efficient GPUs

LTC mining?
292  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 19, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Good news everyone!

I'm travelling and unable to confirm at this time...but I've just been notified that DHL dropped off a package from one Zhang Ying. I believe the Batch 2 Avalon has arrived. Smiley

Yes, I saw!

Next we need GMP.
Then BFL needs to deliver to Cognitive and Nasty and the our divs will soar..
293  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 19, 2013, 10:44:48 PM
It'll be mining for us tonight.






No tracking information no notification at all...just there. Glad someone was there to receive the package.



I'm glad someone was there too.



I'll get some pics up tonight when I get it running.


Ya damn right you'll post some pics!  Cheesy  We love mining device pr0n.
294  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 19, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
Total dividends of 0.20912003 will be paid this week.

This is about 0.00150446 per share with an instant annual dividend yield of 10.160%


GMP dove this week due to some heavy profit taking. Nasty Fans is holding steady, while ASCIMINER-PT and bASIC-MINING are steadily increasing.

This has caused the NAV per share to decrease to BTC0.77



Future Outlook - My guess as to what's to come.

Glari Mining Project announced that it has purchased 3 KnCMiner Jupiters. The Jupiters report to be at about 350GH/s each. This good news should help the price recover, but getting the Avalon to start mining would help more.

BFL announced "Chip Credits" that will add capital to Nasty and Cognitive. Again, it would help more it BFL would actually deliver the ASIC devices.





MiningCo.ETF is available on BTCT.co and as a pass-through on BitFunder.
295  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] BTC-GOLD: 100 shares = 1 gram gold bullion on: June 19, 2013, 06:30:31 PM
This may be a stupid question, but why is the spread so high?

I release shares in small batches. After those are sold, the market sets the price. Some people are content with holding shares and set lofty prices.
More will be released until a bar is completely sold. Is there is demand, another bar will be added to the inventory and sold. 
296  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 12, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
Total dividends of 0.2009091 will be paid this week.

This is about 0.00144539 per share with an instant annual dividend yield of 9.28%


Nasty Fans took a hit this week despite this week being it's birthday.
All other underlying assets are holding steady

This has caused the NAV per share to decrease to BTC0.81



Future Outlook - My guess as to what's to come.

For Nasty Fan's birthday, OgNasty added an ASICMINER USB Block Erupter, and participated in some group-buys of KNC Miner and Metabank Bitfury. Let's hope this pans-out to more dividends.

This week I started to post a little more info about our dividends (thanks bitzox).
The div per share and yield should be more useful to everyone who holds shares.
The "instant annual dividend yield" is calculated this way:
(This week's Dividend per share) / (This week's share price) * (52 weeks in a year) = Instant annual dividend yield

If you are interested in more dividend yield information (such as 30, and 90 day averages) please go to the asset page on btct.co and click on the History tab.




MiningCo.ETF is available on BTCT.co and as a pass-through on BitFunder.
297  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: June 11, 2013, 04:39:39 PM


Did I win any jackpot ? Smiley

I won this jackpot too!
298  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund [Closing] on: June 06, 2013, 11:19:53 PM
Yes I have always and will always support transparency and listening to the investors voices.
The problem is how to set it up.
//DeaDTerra


Sounds like you need a private club.
Just get a website and it's invite only. To see anything you need to log in.

Make it so that there is no way to sign up. Just create accounts manually and hand them out to trusted investors.
299  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] BTC-GOLD: 100 shares = 1 gram gold bullion on: June 06, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
The Bullion Inventory now has relevant links to the forum topic where photos of the bars can be viewed.
300  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 05, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
That's exactly what I meant Smiley I was also referring to adding to your weekly update posts on this forum (ie this weeks dividend was 10.0% unannualized) but like I said its simple math and anyone can do that given that you already post the NAV.

It's one of the reasons I manage the fund openly. The spreadsheet has all the numbers anyone needs to make any calculation regarding performance.

I'll see about adding some more numbers on next week's update. And if I forget, just remind me.  Wink
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