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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum just crashed 10% in 3 hours on: November 20, 2018, 04:34:00 AM
The Ethereum Genesis Block is cashing out! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
source=>http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/crypto-news-the-ethereum-genesis-block-is-cashing-out/


 Cool
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / The Ethereum Genesis Block is cashing out! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on: November 20, 2018, 04:10:12 AM
source=>http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/crypto-news-the-ethereum-genesis-block-is-cashing-out/

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CRYPTO News- The Ethereum Genesis Block is cashing out

80% premined Ethereum’s Genesis Block
(Specifically, the block that allocated to the founders 12 million free coins) is cashing out as the price of Ethereum tanks into oblivion.

etherscan.io/address/0x9d2BFC36106F038250c01801685785b16C86C60D

It’s always nice to be at the top of a pyramid. The bottom ‘Hodlers’ will get REKT.

Ethereum was 72,000,000 coin premined.

283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nobody Buying Cryptocurrency :( on: November 20, 2018, 02:28:56 AM
Pheww sigh I can't believe there is still more selling than buying at these price levels.  What is going on?  Are people still selling because of fear of Craig White and bchsv or has the difficulty in bitcoin dropped.  Investors have gone out of their minds to be selling altcoins when they are down 90 to 99 percent, but what I cant believe is nobody buying them. 


Nobody is buying , because they all expect the price to go much lower,
and if it goes to low, they won't buy because the coin network could fail if certain prices are not maintained.

A Dead coin network is worth nothing to anyone.

FYI:
The Bch Hash war is affecting btc greatly as it's hash rate is also dropping.
284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Epic buying opportunity on: November 20, 2018, 02:20:17 AM
More like Catching a Falling Knife Opportunity.



* There are no guarantees bitcoin network survives below $2000 , the price to make new coins exceed $2000.*
285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 20, 2018, 02:05:49 AM
Looks like we are going to start over again at $1,500 .
Are we going to see another great start if this happen or are we going to continue dropping down .
Are you willing to continue if the price hits that low again or are you going to quit,
I am sure that many people would quit on it because they lose to much money in investing at the all time high.

Speculation is at least a 3 year Bear Market.
Unknown if BTC network & miners can survive with btc at less than $2000 for an extended period of time.
Many here don't have the patience to wait a week without complaining much less 3 years.

One thing I found interesting was Jihan Wu said ,
that the fact that they had to remove mining power from the BTC network to use on the BCH network could cause a collapse in price. 
It should make no difference in price , Unless:
That statement implies that Wu's miners were only stockpiling btc and not selling any,
and the fact that other miners would be able to mine and earn more btc , means they would sell and crash the price.
This also implies that Wu was falsely propping up the price of btc by limiting supply and now that false prop up can no longer be maintained due to the bch hash war.  Anyway just a Personal Speculation.
286  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 20, 2018, 01:54:45 AM
$5000 support level has been broken.

Bitcoin has now fallen below $5000 support to $4,888.09    

Next Support level is $4000, time before it's failure, not long according to the Bloomberg analysts.

Less than $3400 to fall before the final $1500 support level is reached.
287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we destined for Doomsday? on: November 19, 2018, 04:57:43 PM


Are we seeing the beginning of the end? Could this be it? Could bitcoin actually go to $1000 USD? What do you think of the current scenario? Are things looking positive or negative? Tells us why.


I see negatives right now, like this thing could fall some more. For one, because the feud between VER and Wright.


Switzerland just approved the world's first ETFs but their Market has only 1.3 trillion U.S dollars, nothing compared to Wall Street.

Check out the article below on what the SEC might do with the upcoming ETFs review. They will probably deny or postpone.

https://cryptocannibal.com/2018/11/14/why-the-future-of-a-bitcoin-btc-etf-is-uncertain-with-the-current-bch-hash-war/


Another factor that may cause BTC to crash right now, is slowing global economic growth. Oh, and lets not forget the fear index.


https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/


Retail investors are very uncertain about bitcoin right now.


What are your thoughts?


IMO , based on study of past drops
Odds Bitcoin drops to $4000 within 3 months   , 80%
Odds Bitcoin drops to $3000 within 5 months   , 70%
Odds Bitcoin drops to <$2000 within 1 year     ,  60%

Litecoin drops below $20 within 3 months , 80%

Whole Market is entering a 3 year or longer Crypto Winter similar to the 2013 to 2016 bear markets

We are going to see a Mass Extinction Event for Weak Coins.

Bye Bye to Ethereum and all of their tokens.  Wink
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: November 19, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Active nodes?

addnode=1.34.180.245
addnode=103.102.46.53
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addnode=93.115.26.186
addnode=93.115.28.30
addnode=94.130.64.167

FYI:
ZEITCOIN has a DNS Seed , so adding manual entries to  a conf file is usually not required.
Peers.dat will update in a few minutes of being online. (Be sure your Firewall allows zeitcoin thru it.)

New Users should use
BootStrap.dat for Exchanges to speed up Initial Sync.
or
Download & Install the ZEIT BlockChain SnapShot for New or Active Wallets.

To speed up 1st time installations.
289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 18, 2018, 05:16:35 AM
in other words there is a same level of possibility for price to go up to $500,000 by next week as there is for price going down to $1,500.
$500,000 next week is pure disassociation with reality.

my point exactly!
saying price will drop to $1,500 is "disassociation with reality" as saying it will rise to $500,000 by next week.
$500k is a random number that i pulled out of my ass, just like Bloomberg did. the only difference is that i didn't write an article about it and i don't own a big news website to publish it. otherwise the principle is the same.

Ok, you worried me there for a minute.   Smiley

I don't think they made up the # , I believe they used the baseline chart price before the last big rise.
$1500 is the price of btc on ~May 4, 2017 , it was the base at the start of the BTC last big rise.

BTC lost $1000 in 1 day, so a few more thousand in a few weeks to months is not extreme.

290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 18, 2018, 04:22:01 AM
bloomberg has been posting nonsense like this for years. anybody can visit the "bitcoin obituaries" webpage and see that a lot of articles there belong to Bloomberg!
anything is possible in bitcoin market but coming up with a number and talking about it is just dumb because it shows lack of understanding of the bitcoin market.

in other words there is a same level of possibility for price to go up to $500,000 by next week as there is for price going down to $1,500.

$500,000 (ie: ½ Million Dollars per coin) by next week ,  now that shows a lack of understanding of reality as we know it.

If you had said $10,000 or even $20,000, well I have to let that go as it has been achieved in the past, but $500,000 next week is pure disassociation with reality.

I am doubtful it could achieve that even by next century let alone next week.
291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does holding really make us avoid losses? on: November 17, 2018, 08:57:46 PM
Whenever coins prices fall, there are always many posts that suggest that we continue to hold and not sell.
But is this really helpful? In fact, losses have already occurred, and we cannot deceive ourselves with the reason of book losses instead of actual losses. This is simply a shit reason.
Indeed, if you hold coins and wait for a bull market, you may recover your losses,but this is uncertain, it is not necessarily happening.
More often, holding will only make things worse.

You hold and the others sell and they profit while you lose,

which is why they always tell you to hodl no matter what the price is.

Markets require losers for others to win ,and if they can trick you into never selling,
well if you never sell , you never really win do you?




292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 17, 2018, 08:43:59 PM
Looks like $1500 was pulled from the bitcoin chart history.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

$1500 is what the price of bitcoin was right before it started the run up on the charts on ~ May 04,2017.

So the Bloomberg's analyst are really thinking all of the price gains since then are going to be wiped out.

* If the Bcash Hash War causes the Billionaires involved to sell the majority of their crypto holdings to support their fork,
all of the crypto they were holding (including btc) will face a serious downward price pressure as long as the hash war continues,
Wright has already said he is willing to sell his btc down to $1000 in support of his sv fork. *
  
293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / “Bitcoin’s no longer boring” price could fall as low as the $1500 on: November 17, 2018, 08:21:30 PM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoins-no-longer-boring-price-heading-towards-15k-say-bloomberg-analysts

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“Bitcoin’s no longer boring” declares Bloomberg, before stating that analysts predict the price could fall as low as the $1,500 point, a further 70 percent drop in the coin’s price.

Bloomberg cites hedge fund founder Travis Kling saying that he “didn’t sleep well” because of the potential turmoil in wider crypto markets due to the recent Bitcoin Cash hard fork:

“There’s a small chance that, it’s difficult to estimate, that something really bad could happen related to Bitcoin Cash that could then impact the entire crypto market.”

Looks like the warnings of btc dropping down to $1000 is not so far fetched after all.
Also looks like the analysts are blaming it all on the bcash war.

Can the Miners survive a drop below $2000?
Time will tell.    Cool


294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: November 17, 2018, 07:47:33 PM
You are laughing. Instead of writing radicula posts, do something useful for Zeit. Whatever it is, but something. With posts you will not activate anything. Or find investors.

Ok , let me clear this up for you.

The Team's job here , is ONLY TO ENSURE THEIR IS A WORKING COIN NETWORK.

Sorry to burst your delusional bubble , but that is it!

Price per coin , new investors , 3rd party services , none of that is part of the Team's Job.
Price per coin is determined by the marketplace.
New investors & 3rd party services make up their own minds on which coins they invest in or serve.


If you need that , we don't offer it and never have.

So you can sell your coins and look for someone to hold your hand , you won't get that here,

Zeitcoin is for Mature Investors only,
that can make up their own mind and take their own actions without whining to the team to start doing things that has never been part of the Team's job description.

295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: November 17, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
Still, will not you do anything to activate the trade with Zeit?
I do not think you know at all what you are doing. If you knew what investors wanted, you would have done it. But you do not know. And just hinder a good code.
I'm sorry, but that's my opinion about your anonymous team.


The Goal of this anon team is to keep the coin running and secure.
There are multiple exchanges for you to trade on.

However just to clear the air and allow you to fully voice your opinion.

What is it exactly that you are wanting to see done?
Please be specific.



Where to trade? It is not worth a 1 saтoshi. And nobody wants to buy it. Smiley
Thanks to your witty posts. And no work from the team. Smiley

Currently worth ½ satoshi or 1 million zeitcoin is ~$28 US

Exchanges Status Pairings
altilly  Online LTC / DOGE / ETH
BiteBTC  Online       BTC / LTC
CoinExchangeOnline BTC / DOGE / ETC
CryptopiaOnline LTC /  DOGE
NovaExchangeOnline DOGE / MOON
SouthXchangeOnlineBTC / DASH / LTC / USD
TradeSatoshiOnlineBTC / BCH / LTC / DOGE / ETH

* If nobody wants it , why are you even here. *  Wink

Anyone owning 50000 zeitcoins value in other currencies
https://coinmill.com/ZTC_calculator.html#ZTC=50000
= 184.89  Pakistan Rupee (PKR)
= 91.07     Russian Ruble (RUB)
=  1194.54 Rwandan Franc (RWF)
=  346632.99 Venezuelan Bolivar Fuerte (VEF)
=   32160.79  Viet Nam Dong (VND)
=    174.21     Jamaican Dollar (JMD)
=    156.49     Japanese Yen (JPY)
=    4413.58   Colombian Peso (COP)
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: November 17, 2018, 07:15:40 PM
Still, will not you do anything to activate the trade with Zeit?
I do not think you know at all what you are doing. If you knew what investors wanted, you would have done it. But you do not know. And just hinder a good code.
I'm sorry, but that's my opinion about your anonymous team.


The Goal of this anon team is to keep the coin running and secure.
There are multiple exchanges for you to trade on.

However just to clear the air and allow you to fully voice your opinion.

What is it exactly that you are wanting to see done?
Please be specific.

FYI:
Be civil as pure trolling is not tolerated by the OP admin.
297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is independent? or depends on fiat currency on: November 17, 2018, 05:09:15 AM
Yes bitcoin is independent because it is decentralized but in the price of bitcoin are also dependent on fiat currency .



Bitcoin is dependent on Insane amounts of Electricity to run it's network,

Electricity that has to be Purchased with the Local FIAT

So your statement is correct:
"Bitcoin is dependent on fiat currency for it's existence"


No Fiat, No Electricity, No Bitcoin.


Bitcoin doesnt consume any energy because its online and totally passive  , it only uses electricity if you have a mining hardware and you are mining a bitcoin .

Also , we can still have an electricity even without fiats because we can use natural energy such as solar , water and wind .

In conclusion , it does not really matter at all if bitcoin is independent or not because what matter the most is the usability and purpose on why it was built .

LOFL  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I argue with you , but you are seriously delusional , so there is no point.

Have a Great Day and thanks for the laugh.  Smiley

298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 16, 2018, 11:17:38 PM
Guys sv just died, no split, no sv coin..no hash

Boy, when you state falsehoods, you go all-in, don't you? Every last one of your 'no' statements above is disproven by the most cursory glance at Coin Dance.
lol i state falsehoods , do you say the same to your faketoshi?



oh and btw, sv coin is dead....no one with any sense would want to buy ,use or support that shit.

Still Trading:
(BCHSV)  $116.65 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-sv/#markets

Bitcoin Cash ABC   $248.32 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-abc/#markets

https://forkmonitor.info/nodes/bch
Last ABC Block => Height: 556974 (2018-11-16 18:26)
Last SV   Block=>  Height: 556961 (2018-11-16 18:21)

Both still kicking from the looks of it.  Smiley

* Some coins specific block explorers are needed however. *

Looks like the old cash explorers are all pointing to ABC chain.
SV needs a block explorer if anyone is supposed to take them seriously.
299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we wait for a big drop in BTC? on: November 16, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Friends, analysts fear the further and largest decline in Bitcoin. Can it reach the mark below 5000, what do you think?


Don'y buy in until ~$3000 , but be willing to hold for 4 years or longer as a drop to $1000 is not out of the possibility.



FYI:
Faketoshi says BTC will be dead next year.
*Never Invest more than you can afford to lose.*
300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dr.Craig Wright talking about the end of bitcoin next year. [No FUD here] on: November 16, 2018, 07:33:25 PM
Hmm,

his words "BTC core is already dead, they just don't know it yet,
adding segwit enabled a fatal flaw and their won't be any btc this time next year."

There are issues with LN hubs having to register as money transmitters or even banks,
Miners can also ignore all segwit transactions killing LN.

But neither of those would kill BTC itself only LN.

It seems like he is trying to say is the addition of segwit itself has embedded a flaw that may allow all bitcoins to be stolen not just segwit in case of a miner revolution against it.

Or

He might just be bullshitting,  guess we'll find out by 2020.  Cheesy

 

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