The 24h volume on Bleutrade was $1700, that's a lot of money for a lot of people. You know what seems to be the target demographic of Guldens, Joe 6-pack/Joey bag-o' donuts.  Sure this volume of trading isn't going to send Gulden to the moon anytime soon but for a lot of people it's a substantial amount of money.  For sure Bittrex is the go to exchange for Gulden but there is a lot to be said for the direct access to/exit from the Gulden market through Guldentrader/Nocks and Litebit. Trying to untether a crypto from bitcoins volatile price fluctuations seems difficult. It's a long road to achieve some independency but to standalone might be the best course for survival. I don't need more examples and price comparisons of how Bitcoin has outperformed Gulden etc, the fact remains that if Bitcoin plummets for whatever reason it might take down a lot of cryptos in its wake.There, we agree! No matter how much Bitcoin has outperformed Gulden, once it goes down, Gulden takes the lead, face down in the dirt! |
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Today Gulden can be traded on Bittrex, GuldenTrader, Nocks, LiteBit.eu, Bleutrade, Yobit and CoinExchange
Bittrex -> checkGuldentrader -> NOPE, Just a buy and sell platform, not an exchangeNocks -> Partially check, NLG-EUR onlyLitebit.eu -> NOPE, Just a buy and sell platform, not an exchangeBluetrade -> 0.008 BTC average volume, seriously??Yobit -> Scam site, not a real exchange (try getting your funds out, lol)Coinexchange -> 0.001 BTC Volume, seriously?? |
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In my opinion, Gulden is famous and reliable crypto currency. It is traded on many exchanges. It was conceived as the national crypto currency of the Netherlands. It cost about two cents in 2016 аnd for a year the price has grown five times. Gulden is a long-term growth perspective, it will only grow in price. Gulden can be quickly exchanged for any other crypto currency or conventional money. That`s because it is a good investment.
Gulden can also be instantly converted into fiat thanks to Nocks+Bunq! By using the your Bunq iban on the Gulden app you can get your guldens exchanged into euros instantly and spend it using the debit card. Let me debunq that  It is traded on many exchanges.
No it's not! Only on Bittrex and Nocks (I don't regard Yobit an Exchange) It cost about two cents in 2016 аnd for a year the price has grown five times.
No, Bitcoin grew 15x to the Dollar, that's the only reason Gulden grew 5 times to the Dollar. Relatively any investment in Gulden as opposed to Bitcoin made you a 200% loss. Gulden can also be instantly converted into fiat thanks to Nocks+Bunq!
Only if you are an account holder with Bunq! Compared to Bitcoin, that is instantly convertible on many platforms around the world, that is a pathetic accomplishment! Since Nocks also was wise enough to stop converting bitcoin payments with the Gulden app, it became even more useless! |
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GuldenTrader will be live in three weeks and implements Bunq Bank API for swift withdrawels.
They will add not only NLG-Euro but all these coins:TCN, QBX, ETH, WAVES, XVG, NEO, XRP, BTS, LTC, XMR and QTUM
Big question, these coins will have Euro pairing or NLG pairing, if they all going to have Euro pairings then it doesn't count as a benefit to NLG. Not surprised they have changed with the dismal ranking NLG has on cmc. The developer behind GuldenTrader learned his lesson from Rijk very well. He managed to bank over $ 1,5mm from the Gulden community to build this killer exchange for them. Now he is already 6 months behind on delivering on his promised timeline and the product is still half of what was expected (see the resemblances?). One thing is them not even being able to do iDeal transactions (that was key to having a workable product for mainstream users). So now they are planning to release a crappy exchange, not dedicated to Gulden at all! The cost to get here were less than 10% of what the Gulden fanboys paid in shares! (see the resemblances?). So here we are, Nocks having almost no impact on the Gulden ecosystem at all, GuldenTrader not even getting close to deliver on their promised product and even not dedicated to the coin that helped them to raise over $ 1,5mm of their funds! With a DEV that refuses to even allow discussions about marketing! That add's up to a total disaster! Good luck folks! (hope you hedged some of your funds in other alts as well!) GT used the community to fund an exchange to add other coins with Euro pairings? The Gulden community is really getting ass f*cked here. Well, with the latest stunt in making their new Slack even harder to get into than a Bilderberg meeting, Rijk made sure that community now exists of only fanboys that actually like to get assf*cked |
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GuldenTrader will be live in three weeks and implements Bunq Bank API for swift withdrawels.
They will add not only NLG-Euro but all these coins:TCN, QBX, ETH, WAVES, XVG, NEO, XRP, BTS, LTC, XMR and QTUM
Big question, these coins will have Euro pairing or NLG pairing, if they all going to have Euro pairings then it doesn't count as a benefit to NLG. Not surprised they have changed with the dismal ranking NLG has on cmc. The developer behind GuldenTrader learned his lesson from Rijk very well. He managed to bank over $ 1,5mm from the Gulden community to build this killer exchange for them. Now he is already 6 months behind on delivering on his promised timeline and the product is still half of what was expected (see the resemblances?). One thing is them not even being able to do iDeal transactions (that was key to having a workable product for mainstream users). So now they are planning to release a crappy exchange, not dedicated to Gulden at all! The cost to get here were less than 10% of what the Gulden fanboys paid in shares! (see the resemblances?). So here we are, Nocks having almost no impact on the Gulden ecosystem at all, GuldenTrader not even getting close to deliver on their promised product and even not dedicated to the coin that helped them to raise over $ 1,5mm of their funds! With a DEV that refuses to even allow discussions about marketing! That add's up to a total disaster! Good luck folks! (hope you hedged some of your funds in other alts as well!) |
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After studying their latest whitepaper I am really excited about Gulden. Current price level feels like an interesting entry to me.
Price indeed is rediculously low in comparance what Gulden has to offer technically. 👍 And there you have it! So the answer to the question by the opp is: " NO Gulden is a bad investment! It sucks up all your money to help the dev's go on for eons to build their ego's and apps, while your investment stays ridiculously low!" Would you have picked any other coin, ANY!, you would have done better! |
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The Gulden Community has sent information packages to shops in the Netherlands who already accept bitcoin, in an effort to inform them of a working alternative, Gulden, which is actually cheaper than regular payment methods.
The package includes a welcome letter, card display, cards, window stickers and install guide.
Where are the pictures, articles, user merchant reports...? Show, don't tell. I have Dutch friends who still have not heard of NLG. I know local charities with better publicity. did you even read what he typed? do your friends have shops that already accept bitcoin? no? then you are missing the point. Sorry man, you're barely making sense. Get used to it, Gulden fanboys never make sense, like "Gulden is a good investment, because it stayed stable @ 7ct the whole year"Yeah, right, imagine you would have bought Bitcoin instead  |
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Innovation is still rewarded , Gulden devs need to prove that PoW2 and SegSig is possible. All I see is delays and excuses. Latest was public testing to start this month. What will be the excuse when November is finished?
Nothing will be released until February 2018 soonest and even then a major flaw will surface, we had that MaNi times before. |
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Nocks is going to prevent a price increase with Gulden next release. We can't create account anonymously. Will traders on Nocks sell on bittrex to increase price on Nocks?
The main purpose of Nocks was to prevent fast price increases and keep it more stable to the Euro. Consider Gulden as a Ferrari you buying at 10% of the value because rich anonymous traders can't pump the price and marketing is non existent. Concider buying Bitcoin in stead of Gulden a year ago, you could buy a real Ferrari by now! |
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BTW, this excludes the 680BTC he managed to pull from the shares!
Rijk can only be accused of one thing and that is his terrible approach to marketing. In the old slack in was mentioned the btc was converted to Euros straight away and most of that btc came when btc was under $1000. It's still a lot of money but not close to the $4 million you been claiming. When the marketing problems are sorted out everyone will be smiling and I do agree the main developer for Gulden is the best in crypto right now. This will be proven to the world with the PoW2 and SegSig combined update. No other coin would release 2 gigantic updates in one release. Dev has serious balls! There's that gossip again! Has anyone ever seen the actual BTC wallet and has there been any accountability of what happened to those funds? Nope! So Rijk can say he actually is an Indonesian Prince that has direct contact with Elvis for all I care, but without factual proof of what he did with the funds, the questions around his probable shady dealings remain. He took those funds from the community members who entrusted him with their hard earned money. Is it so much to ask for some transparency and accountability? I don't believe MaNI would still be involved in Gulden if he suspected corruption from Rijk, if you read some of MaNI's previous posts he doesn't look like the person to be involved with scams and why we even discussing Gulden as a scam when he recently just delivered a new iOS wallet. The work is being done. The guy must be superhuman if he just did the iOS wallet and still plans to release beta version to testers this month for PoW2 and SegSig. MaNi is one hell of a developer, I give you that. But he also is a mercenary. He stated clearly from the beginning he is here to get paid. No problem of course. But spare me the bull that he is here out of generosity towards the project. He was willing to do 2 years of development for $ 25k, so he knows with a fund of over $ 4mm, he is well of in Rijks pocket. |
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Rijk can only be accused of one many things and that is, next to his terrible approach to marketing, the following:
- Total dictatorship control over the project - Backchannel politics - Chasing away serious contributors with his extremely bad obsessive personality - Chasing away serious investors with his total lack of transparency - Secretive dealings with his buddy's @ Nocks (Lending over 4mm NLG from premine during the big pump and getting repaid in BTC afterwards) - Killing organic growth in the community over and over by his obsessive need to moderate and censor everyone that asks critical questions - Lying strait out about having to open a new slack by orders of Slack. (true reason was he needed even more control over his community) - Trying to manipulate everyone in his closed circle jerk group that only he has the true vision |
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BTW, this excludes the 680BTC he managed to pull from the shares!
Rijk can only be accused of one thing and that is his terrible approach to marketing. In the old slack in was mentioned the btc was converted to Euros straight away and most of that btc came when btc was under $1000. It's still a lot of money but not close to the $4 million you been claiming. When the marketing problems are sorted out everyone will be smiling and I do agree the main developer for Gulden is the best in crypto right now. This will be proven to the world with the PoW2 and SegSig combined update. No other coin would release 2 gigantic updates in one release. Dev has serious balls! There's that gossip again! Has anyone ever seen the actual BTC wallet and has there been any accountability of what happened to those funds? Nope! So Rijk can say he actually is an Indonesian Prince that has direct contact with Elvis for all I care, but without factual proof of what he did with the funds, the questions around his probable shady dealings remain. He took those funds from the community members who entrusted him with their hard earned money. Is it so much to ask for some transparency and accountability? |
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@Gulden Hodl, just have one question for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731139.msg17334640#msg17334640In the above thread you suck up to a true Legendary member and actually confirm the fact that Gulden dev has over 600BTC in funds now. What I'm interested in is this part:
The Gulden devs are not trying to hide anything and are always available to answer questions. The questions relating to the premine have been answered a gazillion times before though so it must get annoying for them to have to keep justifying themselves.
Just to make all those questions go away, I have one simple question for them: "what is the address that holds these funds (BTC and NLG)?" Since you seem to know they are always available to answer questions, this should be fair and simple! So please get back to us and show nothing is hidden anymore so we can leave those poor dev's alone doing their thing! However, until they choose not to hide those funds from public eye, they remain the shady scammers that Legendary members smell from miles away! |
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Oh, this might come as a shock to you, but I also believe in Gulden!
You got me there 😂. So we have something in common, you are also a believer. Could you enlighten me what you like about the project? Thanks. Sure! I like the fact they chose the name Gulden, it resembles everything that the Euro messed up and gives a name to the coin that is still widely respected to a lot of people, not only in The Netherlands. I like the fact it is at least trying to renew standards in commonly accepted paying methods and give it it's own identity. I like the way the real dev (not Rijk) is working in improvements to the Bitcoin code that can resolve a lot of trouble in the future of digital payments. I like to see the true Dutch mentality in the community that tries to make something out of the above mentioned likes. I can go on quite a bit with these likes, but in the end it comes down to the bitter fact that all those likes are locked up in a sandbox that is controlled by a narcist and personally disordered dictator that only is interested in self enrichment. Not only financially but also ego wise! And there's another fact for you right there, I detest the fact that one emotionally mess-up guy can come up with such an awesome project as he can constantly kill it the same way as he does. If he truly feels Gulden deserves a future, he should leave the project and hand over the keys to the true community. That means accountability though which he can't get away with anymore. |
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I think it is a good investment and I think you will see the price of 1 dollar soon. The team works very well and everyone can see it. There are also mobile applications and projects are very nice.
There's that gossip again! Better stick to Guts mate, truly honest and transparent! |
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It's hilarious watching how much time you spend trolling Gulden - getting all outraged and angry. As hilarious as it is you mistaking calm and controlled fact sharing with outraged and angry trolling, again!  Your bitterness nourishes me.
I hope it gives you something to waste your time on. What everyone needs to understand is that there are a group of people with massive egos who tried to take over Gulden a couple of years ago.
Rijk told them to fuck off.
They cried and put all their coins on Bittrex as a show of strength.
Rijk said, in the words of Steven Patrick Morrissey, 'I find it almost impossible to care'.
Rijk hating circle jerk continued to cry and will probably still be crying when the Sun swells into a red giant and envelopes all of us
Some, maybe all, who knows, of this circle jerk sold a lot of their coins for a pittance.
Realising that they missed out on enormous profits and jealousy due to Gulden's solid growth has driven some of said circle jerk to create sock puppet accounts to constantly troll Gulden.
The only one that "took over" Gulden is Rijk. By that I don't mean the coin he started, but the community and their funds that expected to be involved. He took over that group of people and took their money to enrich himself. The circle jerking takes part mostly in his own secretive closed channels that no one that even slightly disagrees with him gets or maintains access to. I know you are still pissed off by the fact you got stuck in the middle. Not welcome in Rijks circle jerk group and also not in the one you describe yourself above. Too bad for you mate! Long term members of the Gulden community and the Gulden dev team remain unmoved
True, they are still meeting in back channels to discuss how to steal from suckers like you and even get you to defend them! |
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@RichPissman
You haven't any respect to rijk and his team, can you proof your facts? No!
one question can you disproof what RichPissman is claiming. Its looks solid. Actually I don’t care if it looks solid or not. I’m not a bookkeeper nor a coder but there were several people in the past who did a thorow research before, especially on the pre-mine subject and it checked out OK and trustworthy everytime. The dev team changed the roadmap several times because it was wiser to do other releases before the pow2, otherwise they had to do some of the work twice. And we have those updates already, so proof enough. I don’t care about the initial promises either, it’s nearly done, and then we can move on to the next updates. Continues story for every crypto. But maybe the annual report wil help you get an idea. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3ewHhEy8hWBy20Jmj9wPR9JXSwKwNqwjR2A0iXa4bE/mobilebasicThx Jean Luc for the link. It gives me a better idea about the whole concept and what they are doing. The only thing i would like is more transparency of the finance. So if a RichPissman claims something i could verify. Im not a Gulden Fanboy but i do believe in the gulden. Here is a document of one of the guys that did real research on the premine just before the " annual report" shown above was hastily put together. Looks slightly different right?  Oh, this might come as a shock to you, but I also believe in Gulden! As a concept that is! I do however see straight through the scam that the self enriching narcist dev is pulling off in front of you! BTW, this excludes the 680BTC he managed to pull from the shares! |
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@RichPissman
You haven't any respect to rijk and his team, can you proof your facts? No!
one question can you disproof what RichPissman is claiming. Its looks solid. . I’m not a bookkeeper nor a coder but there were several people in the past who did a thorow research before, especially on the pre-mine subject and it checked out OK and trustworthy everytime. The dev team changed the roadmap several times because it was wiser to do other releases before the pow2, otherwise they had to do some of the work twice. And we have those updates already, so proof enough. I don’t care about the initial promises either, it’s nearly done, and then we can move on to the next updates. Continues story for every crypto. But maybe the annual report wil help you get an idea. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3ewHhEy8hWBy20Jmj9wPR9JXSwKwNqwjR2A0iXa4bE/mobilebasicThat's the major problem with you Gulden fanboys. Your doctrined minds are blinded by the propaganda in the heavily moderated and closed slack channels Rijk likes to keep you in. The $ 3,700,000 in BTC that Rijk still keeps privately from your donations is not the only stack he uses to keep you intimidated, he also still holds almost 100,000,000 Gulden in his pre-mine wallet. That's 1/4th of the current supply in circulation, enough to scare the living sh*t out of educated investors. The possession of these funds are the only reason this project is still heisted by this narcist dictator. If these funds would be in the hands of a trusted entity that was controlled by the community, he would be kicked out a long time ago, simply because everyone hates his guts. It's like a drugdealer with bad breath, everyone avoids him, except the junkies that need his dope. The joke you like to call an annual report btw is completely false and put together by a dumbass pensionado that is totally clueless. There have been many educated questions about the premine before with actual proof Rijk already "stole" over $ 1,000,000 from the premine before 2016. Of course all those questions have been deleted by him and the persons that asked them have been banned. I must have some copies of them somewhere though. “Actually I don’t care if it looks solid or not”, to be clear, that was about all the “fact’s” you are presenting, not about the Gulden project. I have no doubts there. So please don’t start twisting my comments. I just highlighted your own remarks mate! How on earth can you even think that is me twisting your comments? I was referring exactly to what you say here, your own context! |
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@RichPissman
You haven't any respect to rijk and his team, can you proof your facts? No!
one question can you disproof what RichPissman is claiming. Its looks solid. . I’m not a bookkeeper nor a coder but there were several people in the past who did a thorow research before, especially on the pre-mine subject and it checked out OK and trustworthy everytime. The dev team changed the roadmap several times because it was wiser to do other releases before the pow2, otherwise they had to do some of the work twice. And we have those updates already, so proof enough. I don’t care about the initial promises either, it’s nearly done, and then we can move on to the next updates. Continues story for every crypto. But maybe the annual report wil help you get an idea. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3ewHhEy8hWBy20Jmj9wPR9JXSwKwNqwjR2A0iXa4bE/mobilebasicThat's the major problem with you Gulden fanboys. Your doctrined minds are blinded by the propaganda in the heavily moderated and closed slack channels Rijk likes to keep you in. The $ 3,700,000 in BTC that Rijk still keeps privately from your donations is not the only stack he uses to keep you intimidated, he also still holds almost 100,000,000 Gulden in his pre-mine wallet. That's 1/4th of the current supply in circulation, enough to scare the living sh*t out of educated investors. The possession of these funds are the only reason this project is still heisted by this narcist dictator. If these funds would be in the hands of a trusted entity that was controlled by the community, he would be kicked out a long time ago, simply because everyone hates his guts. It's like a drugdealer with bad breath, everyone avoids him, except the junkies that need his dope. The joke you like to call an annual report btw is completely false and put together by a dumbass pensionado that is totally clueless. There have been many educated questions about the premine before with actual proof Rijk already "stole" over $ 1,000,000 from the premine before 2016. Of course all those questions have been deleted by him and the persons that asked them have been banned. I must have some copies of them somewhere though. |
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@RichPissman
You haven't any respect to rijk and his team
100% true! Same goes for Rijk and his team, who have absolutely no respect for the community that made them rich. , can you proof your facts? No!
I don't expect you to be able to comprehend anything I write, but you can watch pictures right? See above!! So, yes, I have proven the facts. That's a property of facts btw, they tend to be true! |
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