Hey all........since starting up a mixer yesterday on the latest wallet release, my wallet has crashed about 5 times giving some visual basic error. Anyone else experiencing this?
Dan is there a possible issue with the windows wallet you released yesterday or is this likely on my end? NEVER had any of my XC wallets crash before! what version are you using? if not v2.49.08e download http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/windows/XCurrency_2.49.08e.exe |
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My concern for the upcoming BlockNET ITO on October 29th is that there is no real clarity on how those who purchase into the ITO will benefit / profit. Unless this is clearly defined at length, I can tell you right now that hardly anyone will be buying into the ITO.
I hope providing clarity on incentives and exactly how buyers of the ITO will profit is a high priority right now.
BlockNET will generate revenue through the economy it builds, and maintain's, thus paying out dividends on those returns to its investors. |
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On the one hand I get excited hearing about the teams lofty ambitions, on the other hand all I want is a functional XCurrency wallet for my Mac. It seems to me the team is putting the cart before the horse. Why not get XCurrency functioning and adopted before focusing on ITO's, the Blocknet, ad hoc mesh networks, etc...? It feels like the focus on XCurrency is dwindling and the team is centered on creating a private corporation so they can sell of their tech. As I understand it, XChat is part of XCurrency, that's why I bought more XC. Now I hear the possibilty of selling that technology in the future!?!? It has also been said that XC Inc's purpose is to create tech that will work on the XCurrency platform, but now we have Blocknet and XBridge and so many other buzzwords and concepts that it's difficult to keep track of them all. Dan says XCurrency is his baby, Steve Jobs said Lisa was his- we all know how that turned out. And Arlyn, you say we just increased our user base 10 fold, if we had the price would be reflecting that right now...it doesn't. Just need to vent a little...maybe you all know exactly what you're doing. Unfortunately several of your investors don't and are confused about the future of XC. I hope to see several XCurrency releases in the near future including mobile, Mac, and linux wallets.  Well put. I've been with XC for a long time (look at the first page of this thread) and recently it has been pre-announcement after pre-announcement with a few testing releases in between. Yes in the long term Blocknet sounds great for the future but it feels like the development of XCurrency itself may be shifting towards a side project and looking at the price I feel others agree. Having said that I hope my feelings regarding this are wrong... Its what you don't see, currently we are working on wrapping up the mobile application, which features a completely redesigned UI, which takes time, along side this effort we are working on the final editions of Group XChat, and we just wrapped up decentralized mixing For the Last 4 weeks, the combined man-hours put into development across all of this is WELL over 600 Man hours just in development effort alone ** edit ** this also includes a non-disclosed application ** Dan |
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Doesnt take alot of balls to point out a fact... you guys will do anything to hype this coin, yet bitcoin magazine, web 2.0 and blocknet doesn't change a thing for it.... Dead coin, hasn't passed 190 in about 3 months probably wont again, and doesnt even have a mac or linux build of most recent wallet... Windows only, dont make me laugh
Linux wallet is available at - http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/linux/Mac wallet build is underway, could be available by tomorrow Dan |
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Doesnt take alot of balls to point out a fact... you guys will do anything to hype this coin, yet bitcoin magazine, web 2.0 and blocknet doesn't change a thing for it.... Dead coin, hasn't passed 190 in about 3 months probably wont again, and doesnt even have a mac or linux build of most recent wallet... Windows only, dont make me laugh
Linux wallet is available at - http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/linux/ |
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REV2 was released over a month ago and there is still no linux/mac client.
is this coin a windows only coin or will there ever be a release of the linux/mac client?
it sucks to get the answer nearly two weeks ago that the client for linux will be released in a few days
but except this empty promise nothing happend.
It was not an empty promise, there were reasons why it was delayed, however I'll provide a link shortly for the linux test client... |
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Although this appears to be just cross-chain transactions, while XBridge is cross-node enablement |
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Dan, can you confirm that Xchat is a part of Xcurrency and any benefits from Xchat will go to Xcurrency owners and not Blocknet or XCinc owners?
That is correct to a point, as one of the potential functions of XC Inc would be to have a legitimate corp structure in replace to reward xc holders if XChat was sold off... So XC Inc holders would benefit directly from that sale, this is why XC Holders are entitled to a share of XC Inc itself Will current Xcurrency owners have their equity in XChat be diluted at all by the creation of XCinc? While I think there is some risk in minor dilution, but that is the cost of doing business and also bringing XChat [and potentially other s/w] to market I was under the impression that XCurrency owners also own 100% of XChat currently. Is that true? What percentage will they own after the creation of XC inc? Not counting any additional XC inc shares they may buy separately from what they receive automatically as XCurrency owners. The final % hasn't been determined yet and I am interested in getting your thoughts on it? Thanks Dan Thank you and Synechist for your replies. I think there needs to be some discussion about this also. XChat is potentially a billion dollar app and I hate to lose any equity in it. On the other hand, it will be nice to have a cut of every other app that XC inc produces. I wonder what other XCurrency owners think. I agree, and having XC Inc also increase's XChat's and provides the framework and foundation for getting that Xchat deal |
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Dan, can you confirm that Xchat is a part of Xcurrency and any benefits from Xchat will go to Xcurrency owners and not Blocknet or XCinc owners?
That is correct to a point, as one of the potential functions of XC Inc would be to have a legitimate corp structure in replace to reward xc holders if XChat was sold off... So XC Inc holders would benefit directly from that sale, this is why XC Holders are entitled to a share of XC Inc itself Will current Xcurrency owners have their equity in XChat be diluted at all by the creation of XCinc? While I think there is some risk in minor dilution, but that is the cost of doing business and also bringing XChat [and potentially other s/w] to market I was under the impression that XCurrency owners also own 100% of XChat currently. Is that true? What percentage will they own after the creation of XC inc? Not counting any additional XC inc shares they may buy separately from what they receive automatically as XCurrency owners. The final % hasn't been determined yet and I am interested in getting your thoughts on it? Thanks Dan |
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Dan, can you confirm that Xchat is a part of Xcurrency and any benefits from Xchat will go to Xcurrency owners and not Blocknet or XCinc owners?
That is correct to a point, as one of the potential functions of XC Inc would be to have a legitimate corp structure in replace to reward xc holders if XChat was sold off... So XC Inc holders would benefit directly from that sale, this is why XC Holders are entitled to a share of XC Inc itself Will current Xcurrency owners have their equity in XChat be diluted at all by the creation of XCinc? While I think there is some risk in minor dilution, but that is the cost of doing business and also bringing XChat [and potentially other s/w] to market |
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Dan, can you confirm that Xchat is a part of Xcurrency and any benefits from Xchat will go to Xcurrency owners and not Blocknet or XCinc owners?
That is correct to a point, as one of the potential functions of XC Inc would be to have a legitimate corp structure in replace to reward xc holders if XChat was sold off... So XC Inc holders would benefit directly from that sale, this is why XC Holders are entitled to a share of XC Inc itself |
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The entire summer, I watched the XC thread and there were many points where people were dissatisfied. Why? Because they were expecting a pump. They were expecting something right then and there. But I also saw continued development. Relevant tech doesn't just get built over night and XC didn't get built over night. I wonder what would have happened if XC had delivered REV1 and been happy? We would have continued from coin to coin with many scams and much volatility. Instead, we have a solid foundation that is looking like that "Bulletproof" claim is going to hold water. Not only that, we have a coin that is set-up to distribute content in the near future. The base is there and the tech is going to be something that I will use...much less other coins that I have invested in and then bailed on because I didn't see think that the dev had vision beyond a flavor of the month feature (not to diss them, I feel the crypto currency community is the largest R&D movement of our time and aside from obvious scams we need all of the input we can get).
Which brings me to my next point. The coins on the list have unique features that can not only benefit XC but other coins...and ultimately the end user. Util is working on programing how to filter malicious content to avoid risk to people who use their VPN (and now Blocknet). SSD came up with stenographic transactions - coin movement embedded in pictures taken from pictures that you take from your smart phone. XST has some pretty awesome SMS capabilities. Fibre beat keylogging programs by creating an android like swiping pattern password for their wallet and have also released their own OS. LXC decided to work on sidechains (sidechains!). And my mentions aren't the sole focus of any coin I referenced or the full spectrum of what the combined dev force of all the coins included are capable of. But these are all features that people want to use...and while I speak for myself, I think that they can come up with features that I and others will want to use.
Enabling the devs of each coin to work on what they do best to create something that will work together and bring an ultimately friendly and secure user experience is awesome. I don't see a joke here. I see the beginning of another development process that will create the foundation for more innovation...and everyone working together only gets us there faster.
Excellent Post - and great summary of some of the tech these coins are working on |
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This tech already exists in another currency which have this as their primary focus. I like the idea. But now you will fundraise this tech "again"? Great plans are good, but its taking away the focus on XC which is a excellent currency. And now i am starting to get worried, and the reason for this is that i have seen these great plans before in other context where talented people have lost their focus because they want to much. In 90% the plans are spinning out of control. In this case i am concerned that XC will loose ground.
More and more people are noticing this, and the answer that they get "trust us, its best for XC" like some sort of elitistic elite. BUT, if you do not have the peoples support in this you will loose. This is not some experiment, people invest real money into this.. im supporting wtih 1900XC, not much. But when 100 people with the same amount starting to get as confused as i am regarding Dan`s involvement in other currencys and this great plans, poeple will cash out.
I just responded to you. No need to repost. Here is my response again: That's like saying that the internet takes away focus from Google. It doesn't. It enables Google to thrive. Focus has *not* been lost. A huge userbase for XC has been gained. You should all setup Xmixers right now. :-) I think there is many more investors concerned the same way - that is why price is slowly sinking. I don't want to talk about theory, let's learn on history. Short example. Nicolas Tesla was a briliant guy. He invented a lot of devices which we use today. But he died in poverty, because he didn't care about people and investors (putting simple: PR). But Edison did care about people and investors. He was not brilliant, but he's company - General Eletric exists till today. Eidosn didn't die in poverty. Tesla did, because he woas focused only on "the thing" not "the people". Besides I have seen many times good invention may loos with worse one, when there is great sales force and PR working on the other solution. You may have genious device, but it will die if not carrying about support. I'm a tech guy also and I know people like me have more focus to things then people, but after all the oposite counts - people. Conclusion is: 1) not paying attention to users (user friendly easy to install wallet) + 2) not carrying about PR, centralised exchanges and investors result = this great tech will loose with competitors. I like this coin and still am an investor, but I feel not only technical things are that needs to be done. I simple observed this by my own that sometimes PR and connection is more important then genious device/code/concept and the poor concept win many times, because someone carrying about connections with people stays behind the poor concept he wins. This is a curse of inteligent people, they don't even understant it's important  And then less inteligent, but having good selling skills (people oriented) survive with their sh*t solutions. That's why the world looks like it looks generally. Are you saying the XC Installer isn't user friendly and easy to use? XC is one of the very FEW coins with 1-click installer package |
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How will we be able to invest in XC Inc.?
XC Inc will hold its ITO sometime in Q1 2015, as it is seeking legal corporate status |
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Provisional ITO rules.
This is completely separate from the XC Inc ITO, which will happen a fair bit later.
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The one thing im missing in this is: why would i want to buy into this? What's in it for token holders? You'll be speculating on the success of the biggest powerhouse in crypto. (Also, Blocknet-specific services (i.e. those not linked to any specific coin) are monetised and the revenues from them will be returned to holders.) Maybe to soon to ask now but my next question would be: where is the line? eg: Integration of 'known atm' functionality will be routed true the XBridge == XMixer == XCurrency. With that part revenue is clear. ( although got a lot of questions about choices to be made with conflicting tech) But your answer implicates that in the future there will also be 'some new' functionality (blocknet specific) thats only available to end-users (the ones that pay) in another way/tech. Think there is need for a clear line between the two set in stone. Well a decentralized exchange could be an example of some new tech that is blocknet specific.... This should be a priority I recon. The sooner this happens the sooner we can stop worrying about things like Mintpal and the likes. So far i XC is the only coin besides BTC that i like because the focus is on the base tech, not marketing. Hope focus stays on that untill its perfect/scalable/extendable/etc before the focus shifts to stuff like a decentralized exchange. Great things take there time XC will continue to focus on its core mission |
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3. I'm also wondering how much does Blocknet's success depend on the success of XCurrency the coin? I ask because I'm worried that if XCurrency isn't doing so well in the medium term future, for whatever reason, could Dan and co 'jump ship' so to speak and focus solely on Blocknet services? I mean that could be very profitable in its own right.
I think Arlyn answered #1 and #2, but I need everybody to understand something, XCurrency is my baby, always has and always will be - that will never change. Dan |
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Provisional ITO rules.
This is completely separate from the XC Inc ITO, which will happen a fair bit later.
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The one thing im missing in this is: why would i want to buy into this? What's in it for token holders? You'll be speculating on the success of the biggest powerhouse in crypto. (Also, Blocknet-specific services (i.e. those not linked to any specific coin) are monetised and the revenues from them will be returned to holders.) Maybe to soon to ask now but my next question would be: where is the line? eg: Integration of 'known atm' functionality will be routed true the XBridge == XMixer == XCurrency. With that part revenue is clear. ( although got a lot of questions about choices to be made with conflicting tech) But your answer implicates that in the future there will also be 'some new' functionality (blocknet specific) thats only available to end-users (the ones that pay) in another way/tech. Think there is need for a clear line between the two set in stone. Well a decentralized exchange could be an example of some new tech that is blocknet specific.... |
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Hi everyone, I would like to thank XC Team for choosing fibre to be part of Blocknet. As synechist mentioned this is a win-win situation, we are here to do whatever is needed. I believe Working together will bring more awareness worldwide for all participates. We will be unstoppable  Krushang Yes, we are creating a direct P2P eco-system that will embrace the potential, and continue to innovate in what is already becoming the next "Internet" |
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