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2801  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 24, 2022, 05:08:05 PM
Di tengah kondisi market yang bearish ini,pasti banyak berita dan rumor yang beredar untuk mempengaruhi pergerakan harga crypto.
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Sumber : https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/tech/20220524090513-37-341349/terungkap-alasan-bill-gates-ogah-punya-uang-kripto
              https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/tech/20220524154714-37-341531/orang-kuat-ini-sebut-bitcoin-kripto-lainnya-tak-berharga

Sumbernya dari CNBC, mereka mah sudah biasa memuat berita FUD ketika market bearish seperti ini, kalau sudah naik, mereka juga cepet-cepet nyari berita nyanjung-nyanjung kripto untuk bikin FOMO, coba deh perhatikan. Media ini jauh dari kata netral. Saya pribadi sudah ogah membaca berita kripto di media lokal, semuanya hanya menggiring opini, kebanyakan pun asal nyomot. Bahkan, pernah diketahui oleh member sini pula, saya lupa medianya apa, yang pasti mereka memberikan informasi yang salah, kalau ga salah saat bahas mining keknya.
2802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 24, 2022, 04:51:37 PM

Throughout this season mbappe has continued to be linked with the issue of moving to Madrid, but now mbappe has chosen to stay and it is clear that this makes madrid have to bite their fingers because they failed to get mbappe, I personally also hope that mbappe can go to madrid and become ronaldo successor in bringing glory for madrid, but in fact the big offer and also the many privileges offered by PSG to mbappe make him stay now until 2025 later.

However, Mbappe has a better chance at PSG regardless of the offer. If PSG are able to provide more playing time for Mbappe, he certainly has a better chance to growth. Although, the experience of playing in different leagues, and different clubs will provide challenges for his career and skills, this decision to stay can be said to be a good decision for him. After all, forcing him to move is sometimes not the right decision, as happened to Sheva, Kaka and several other players, who actually showed a decline in performance after moving from thier club.
2803  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: May 24, 2022, 02:37:59 PM
First time of the history.
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Oh my... you are so lucky haha, you find good winning lately. @roycilik has been beaten today, but he will giving us the proof of his revenge Tongue

If my calculation is correct, it is normal if you get no rebate because the minimum payout for the rebate is 1,000 IDR


I got my rebate yesterday, look like the system giving me little bit late, i got 60K from rebate yesterday. I don;t do anything, just waiting the rebate come. maybe someday if other members get same problem, they are need to wait within 2x24h. My rebate from 2 days bet activity in 1.
2804  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Yang Terjadi Pada Terra (LUNA)? on: May 24, 2022, 02:27:51 PM
Apapun metode terbaik yang diajukan oleh tim Terra (LUNA), saya fikir publik sudah tidak memiliki trust lagi sekalipun harga dan suplai kembali seperti semula, karena ketakutan pasti akan timbul.
Benar, investor pasti akan berpikir lebih berhati-hati sebelum membeli LUNA, namun jika mereka memiliki inovasi yang lebih baik, bukan tidak mungkin juga sih secara perlahan kepercayaan yang hilang sebelumnya didapatkan kembali.

Kalau kebanyakan yang sudah sudah HF itu berbading dengan jumlah koin yang dipegang.
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Yap, metode snapshot memang lebih ke jumlah koin, namun yang menjadi percuma menurut saya jika HF dan snapshot berdasarkan seberapa banyak LUNA & UST yang mereka hold. Karena sama saja tidak akan nyelametin mereka yang beli di harga mahal. Yang diuntungkan menjadi tetap saja yang beli diharga murah. Hal ini menjadikan tidak ada bedanya mau HF maupun tidak. bener ga sih CMIIW
2805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 23, 2022, 04:55:15 PM
Although in the end Liverpool did not win the Premier League title this season but I am very happy with what they have done this season. I thank the coach, the players and everyone for what they have achieved even though the title is the main goal in every season, we will return next season with the same goal.

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City and Liverpool this season have been extraordinary, these two clubs really deserve to be champions. Of course, there is only 1 champion, now it has been obtained by City. Even so, Liverpool have also been very good. Klopp changed Liverpool 360 degrees. From the beginning as only 3-5 inhabitants of the standings in the few years before Klopp coached, now he has changed everything, he gave various trophies, including the first EPL trophy for Liverpool which the fans have been waiting for. Next season, Liverpool and Klopp will start again, of course we all expect Liverpool's consistency to be seen with new hopes of getting the EPL title.
2806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $1.6 billion dollars turned to $2,200 - The Luna effect on Binance Assets on: May 23, 2022, 04:41:28 PM
This is just too much and I hope the people who have invested could recover from this. Imagine liquidating most of your assets to recover. I think this is one of the reasons why the market is down for a while. It's just a discounted price so maybe getting Luna is not bad? lol. This is not financial advice

After all, LUNA is a story, they instantly made people from millionaires into moneyless people, however, LUNA has also created new millionaires, this happen again for people who managed to buy at the price of 0.0000012 a few days ago, and then pumping happens to 0.0005, this is an important lesson for all of us to always pay attention to potential dumps.

If we are just a trader, it would be very good if we always set a stop loss. Thus, we can at least save some of our money. However, sometimes people think of buying back, and when they do not pay attention to market conditions, they have to cut losses again.

Now, LUNA holders must think well, lost money can be found with other invested money in the future, lest the case of 8 people who committed suicide because of LUNA doesn't happen again. I thought that the 2017 case would not be repeated, but LUNA made this dark history happen again. Hopefully this is the end, in the next bear market, no one will give up their lives because their assets go down after investing in crypto.
2807  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Yang Terjadi Pada Terra (LUNA)? on: May 23, 2022, 04:10:24 PM
-snip- Kemudian mengenai opsi HF luna sepertinya ada salah satu postingan Tweet mengenai proposal Terra 2 ternyata mereka mengabaikan para holder UST dan LUNA. 
CMIIW

Kayanya untuk masalah thread pada post twitter tersebut sudah ada pembaruan dari creator mas, pada postingan ini. Kalau ini sudah berjalan dan memang snapshot bisa diberikan untuk semua holder saat serangan terjadi, tentu masih bagus, mungkin dukungan akan terus hadir untuk LUNA. tapi masih cukup sulit juga sih memikirkan metodenya seperti apa. Mengingat posisi harga yang terlampau jauh, jika diredenominasi dengan mengurangi jumlah suplai, tetap saja, kan loss yang dialami di awal pembelian tidak bisa menutup kerugian dengan harga saat ini, kecuali dikalikan untuk mendapatkan nilai USD yang hilang, bukan nilai UST/LUNA. misal, kalau beli $100 dapat airdrop senilai $100, bukan dulu $100 beli dapat 2 Luna, sekarang airdropnya 2 Luna, ya sama aja boong kalau tetap begini.
2808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 23, 2022, 12:45:17 PM
Finally you hit it, it does not matter how much is your basebet but hitting the max win is still a great experience.
I had a bad luck in Fruit Party last week and currently I play Hacksaw games more than Pragmatic because of roycilik  Grin
Pragmatic seems to be in their Freeze mode lately, live RTP of their popular slots are mostly under the standard RTP.
Maybe this is the reason why I got bad luck in Fruit Party last week.


Yup, winning max-win is fun and this is also a rare thing. Regarding bad luck, I also experienced it in Fruit Party 2, got a total of 2 million from fruit party 1, I had to give up 1 million because I lost in Fruit Party 2 in same day, I tried to play with 2 modes normal spin and bonus buy, unfortunately, in normal spins, around 200 spins without any bonus i get and getting loss streak on bonus buy. until I decided to stop at 1 million at least I could withdraw, saving the win Cheesy
2809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 23, 2022, 09:45:01 AM
congratulations to the AC Milan fans


source: freepik.com
Appreciate it bro, thank you

It was a very nice and fun season, even if my beloved team did badly in the end
we will do it again next year! Smiley (Atalanta in the heart)

it was a good season

Sorry for your favorite club, I also don't think Atalanta will perform very bad this season. At the beginning, I think Atalanta can still put pressure to take the top 3 position, but the results was very unpredictable for me. this year is not their year, but I also prefer to see Atalanta than Inter Milan. Not because I'm a AC Milan fan, but I like how they build the team over the years. Hopefully, next year we can see their comeback, so we have Milan, Inter, Juve, Napoli and Atalanta to join the race for title  Wink
2810  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: May 22, 2022, 01:27:24 PM
Sounds good @ryzaadit, congratulations Cheesy



Btw, I want to ask, is the rakeback in BK8 no longer available? because usually I get rakeback every 11 am (GMT+7), but after playing yesterday and spending quite a lot, so far there is no rakeback. Are there other members who experience the same thing?
Maybe, if my total game yesterday could reach more than IDR 5 million, it would be good if I got rakeback even if it was only for 1 - 3 times a game, to seek luck Tongue
2811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 21, 2022, 01:43:12 PM
Lucky saturday for me, today I got my 2nd max win from Pragmatic, not from starlight anymore since I already not playing this game from a long time. After few weeks not playing slot, today I've try with Fruit Party, after losing streak I got max win. Not big amount of bet, since I'm getting rekt from the past game 😜

Replay: https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/skstFoqupM
2812  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: May 21, 2022, 01:38:00 PM


That should be part or the business where there is always a risk for the casino side. They have adopted crypto as payment method, so basically they are ready for the risk. There is also bitcoin as one of deposit method, means that price changing is not something they are worried about. I also believe there is always a way to minimize the risk of price changing. They can simply use direct conversion of any crypto deposit to fiat like what is implemented by some casinos.
Well, its very simple if they don't want to face high risk with Crypto payment, just add more stable coins from any network, we know currently we find some of stable coin from BSC, FTM, ETH etc network. Add some of them, it will be good options than just USDT on trx network only. Everyone happy to pay less fees on transactions, if more options coming it will be good, right Smiley
2813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: future of terra luna after fork on: May 20, 2022, 03:16:42 PM
Airdrop for old holders only? then how about trader who are trying to buy when the price is in the range (let's say) $0.1-$50, they are new buyers, will they get an airdrop too or not? If not, then V2 seems difficult to gain the trust of investors. After all, the public is already horrified by a dump like this. If they provide an airdrop for the holder, is Do Kwon sure, who gets this airdrop will not selling LUNA from airdrop immediately? This will be same as bounty campaign rewards, mostly prefer to sell when high then hold for long terms. Because, this is a chance for them to get back their lose money. Airdrop may be will be succeed an LUNA gain another trust, if they give same USD value as their last buy. of course this also not fair for people who are buying LUNA when the price $50, then cutting loss when $40, then buyback, when price $30 and cut losses $20, this is will be hard snapshot and distributions method, to make it fair for thousand people.
2814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 20, 2022, 02:58:18 PM
-snip- I think it's time for us to get back into the team fighting for the title between Manchester City and Liverpool.
I think both City and Liverpool are likely to get full points in the last game. Indeed, the previous game, City had made the mistake of having to draw against West Ham, but in this match, they will not make the same mistake. Likewise Liverpool, they will try to keep the chance for the Champions, although it is also difficult for them. Because there is only a chance if City draw and they win. As for the City, victory will strengthen their position as the owner of the title. Well, my prediction is 90% of the titles belong to City.
2815  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Token Auto-Rebase & APY Tinggi on: May 20, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

Beli dan lupakan  Cheesy
Ini pertama kalinya saya beli token rebase yang ga ada negative rebasenya, kalau diitung-itung, asal ga sampe koid proyeknya sih masih bisa opit, baik turun maupun naik. jadi iseng-iseng aja buat menuhin token kacang. Agak ngeri sih sebenarnya, meskipun saya beli dengan nominal segitu, karena melihat volumenya yang semakin kecil, meskipun dari segi holder sudah banyak.


Estimasi pendapatan (ROI keknya mengikuti harga saat ini, $0.14)

BTW, tim Libero ternyata juga bikin token rebase lain dengan harga yang lebih mahal, Libera. Secara fitur sih sama saja, ga tau dah apa tujuannya bikin token tandingan untuk proyeknya sendiri.
2816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 20, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
The final game in Serie A of the season is just a day away now but the issue of being champions this season remains unclear as rivals Inter and Milan are still fighting over this. Technically this is something that is quite exciting to see but on the other hand it will be a disappointment for one of the competing teams because it is certain that in this case only one team will win.
I can't wait for something like this

Many forum members here say Sassuolo is an easy opponent for Milan, they believe that Milan will win easily. Same as what you think, I'm also not sure who will win this time. Both teams have the same potential. Milan benefited from playing after Inter Milan. At least, Milan can postpone Inter's party if they win. Of course, Pioli and Milan will understand what they have to do if the neighbors win. If Inter draw or lose, the result of Milan vs. Sassuolo match will not change the standings, mean Milan get the title.
2817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family on: May 19, 2022, 04:43:37 PM

The main mistake remains for gamblers because they do not have the knowledge to bet on money that is worth losing for gambling games for fun, to avoid gambling addiction that you do not need to be involved every time for gambling because at times it is difficult to avoid the addiction to gambling from using money which should not be deposited in gambling.

When we're addicted to something, sometimes it's not just about knowing and ready to lose the money. However, mental and emotional factors often make a gambler forget what he should be doing. It could be, the person who did this to his family because of his unstable emotions. He hopes to win too much, so he tries in any way to get the money so he can bet again. I recently made a mistake when I borrowed money for gamble, after exceeding the limit I originally set before. Lucky for me, when I used the borrowed money, I won and was able to make a full refund. Something like this might also happen to the suspect. He wanted to win, but there was no more money to play with, thus making his family a victim. That is why, playing intensity is an important thing that needs to be done. The more often we play, the more unhealthy our emotional becomes. This has happened to me once, when I gambled almost every day. Now, I've let go, even if I gamble, I deposit once, if I lose, it's over. This is to prevent me from making the same mistake before. Because, victory is not determined by how much we gamble, so limiting as suggested by my friends is an important thing that I must remember.
2818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Winners: Eintracht Frankfurt! on: May 19, 2022, 03:05:55 PM
Who would have thought, a team that failed in the Bundesliga could put pressure on Rangers who in their domestic league are in 2nd place. I thought Rangers would win after opening the scoring in the 57th minute, but Frankfurt managed to equalize the score and finally succeeded in the penalty shootout. most people here are betting on Rangers' win, as they look at their respective league standings. However, they forgot the results obtained by Frankfurt in the Europa League. Well, congratulations to Frankfurt for making club history.
2819  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Panduan orang yang baru bergabung di forum? on: May 19, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
Peraturan itu relatif, kalau Anda suka melakukan pelanggaran, maka akan terasa sangat ketat namun jika Anda selalu mengikuti peraturan forum tidak akan terasa ketat.

Ini ada thread yang pernah dibuat untuk member baru, ada banyak tips dari teman-teman member juga, mungkin bisa menjadi tambahan
- Saya Newbie, Apa Yang Harus Saya Lakukan?
- [Belajar] Strategi Pemula Biar Tetap Eksis di Sini


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saya bermimpi akan mendapatkan uang jika bergabung dengan dunia crypto

Ga perlu repot-repot mas kalau hanya ingin dapat uang dari kripto, tinggal daftar exchange, trading dah di sana. kalau opit ya dapat uang

saya ingat wejangan yang saya dengar dari ayah untuk saya
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"Kamu bisa meniru pekerjaan orang lain, tapi kamu tidak bisa meniru penghasilan orang lain, karena rejeki sudah ada yang mengatur berdasarkan porsinya. Kamu tidak bisa mendapatkan uang lebih banyak lagi, kalau memang rejekimu segitu, bersyukur dengan yang sudah didapatkan adalah cara yang terbaik daripada bermimpi sama dengan orang lain".
pesannya adalah, Anda boleh sih bermimpi bisa seperti ghozali yang tiba-tiba dapat banyak uang, tapi kembali pada rejeki Anda nantinya. Ga semua yang gabung di forum ini menjadi sultan meskipun dia sudah gabung sejak lama, mengikuti kampanye bayaran BTC, bukan berarti mereka sudah menjadi sultan.

Tapi, semoga saja Anda bisa mendapatkan apa yang Anda impikan, saya berpesan ini agar Anda tidak terlalu terobsesi dengan keberhasilan instan, namun yang harus Anda ingat adalah usaha yang akan Anda lakukan untuk mencapai tersebut. Ghozali pun ga instan, dia berhasil karena sudah berusaha dengan membuat foto selfi dengan waktu yang cukup lama, sampai akhirnya usahanya dihargai.
2820  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Kegagalan Algoritma Stablecoin, Kasus UST on: May 19, 2022, 12:05:33 PM
Aktivitas wallet dari LFG ketika mengirimkan dari reserve ke exchange diketahui kok mas, ini adalah riwayat transaksi yang dipublikasikan oleh Watcher.guru
Code:
https://watcher.guru/news/luna-foundation-allegedly-sent-over-2-billion-bitcoin-to-gemini-and-binance
Tetapi, penjualan ini bisa dibilang sudah terlambat, jika dilihat dari kejadian dump UST terjadi pada 9 Mei 2022, penjualan baru dilakukan pada 14 Mei, dengan 2 Milyar yang dimiliki, rasanya juga tidak mungkin akan digunakan semuanya untuk menolong UST, kalau memang LFG masih ingin memperbaiki pengembangan proyeknya.

Benar kata mas mu_enrico, jikalau pun LFG membeli sedikit demi sedikit UST untuk mencoba recovery, ini justru akan dimanfaatkan oleh whale, jadi ya percuma juga jika menggunakan semuanya untuk buyback UST, kalau pada akhirnya justru dimanfaatkan. Kita bisa lihat chart UST/USDT pada 14 mei, ketika LFG menjual BTC mereka, UST memang sempat naik ke 0.7, namun yang ada malah menjadi ekor hammer, maka saya yakin 2 milyar dari hasil penjualan BTC yang dilakukan tidak sepenuhnya digunakan untuk menyelamatkan UST.
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