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2801  Economy / Speculation / Re: Lets pretend Gox gets fixed monday. Now what? on: February 15, 2014, 01:15:06 PM
At first price will spike as everyone freaks out and "follows gox". Then eventually the move will correct itself and on top of that, all the gox coins will be dumped to drive it even lower than it started. It will be a massive pump and dump.
2802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Willy Observer on: February 15, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
There are many theories you could make about this if you predict that mtgox actually has no coins and is going to close. It could be mtgox selling fake bitcoins on their exchange to suck fiat out of the market so that everyone who tries to trade btc there loses and ends up able to claim less fiat. When this goes to court for the court to settle reimbursing people's accounts, the court isn't going to be looking at bitcoin. The court isn't going to bother tracing bitcoin trades on the exchange and won't care about someone saying "but I got sold fake bitcoins". The judge might think that "fake bitcoin" is an oxymoron. They will, however, be looking at the amount of fiat that people held.
2803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
oh ok so this 200k btc of dumping is just "a bot". its "willy"... no. we are talking an order of magnitude of difference from willy, and that guy who made a 10k buy  (rpietelia claims that was.him)

Do you not remember the 100s of k BTC regular buying sprees that seems to have kept Gox at least $100 higher than other exchanges? Willy. It looks like every single person on this forum and his dog noticed Willy the bull bot. What is happening now looks exactly the same but in reverse!
So you're saying this bot "Willy" is a 2%+ holder of all bitcoins. His net worth was $150 million, but he left all the coins on fort gox rather to trade with rather than in cold storage. Um, that sounds a little weird. You know what I think is that Willy IS mtgox.
2804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it my imagination or does Bitcoin tend to gravitate towards $666 on: February 15, 2014, 11:54:44 AM
$666 is the new $100.
2805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 11:36:32 AM
oh ok so this 200k btc of dumping is just "a bot". its "willy"... no. we are talking an order of magnitude of difference from willy, and that guy who made a 10k buy  (rpietelia claims that was.him)
2806  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 11:19:00 AM
when bitstamp and btce disabled withdrawals, it wasnt an all out apocalypse like gox. i think someone knows something at gox that we don't
2807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
the bottom is when the price smashes against a certain level for a good amount of time and there's an unlimited amount of support until it starts slowly creeping up. Like gox did at 300, and then there's multiple additional high volume tests and they are all supported at gradually increasingly higher levels, until an explosion happens. a huge vertical wall of support continues to build behind the action as a new base.

So how long is a "good amount of time" and what do you mean by "unlimited support"? We've smashed into the ~$530 level twice now (stamp), the second time with a lot more volume. Are you saying that can't be the floor or is it just too soon to tell in your opinion?
it wasnt smashed against 530, it bounced off quickly. im thinking of like in july when 66 got hit a bajillion times on high volume over 3 days. you should see a clear trend of high volume support doing stealthy accumulation of heavy dumping at slowly incrementing levels.
2808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 10:44:50 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

We've been going down for 2 months. At what point is it enough for you? When all the investors left and nobody is will to buy coins anymore? That good enough for you? Will that make you happy? Cheap coins right?
I see 2 weeks, not 2 months.

I NEVER get an answer to these questions. So when is it enough for you people? When we're at 1200 you guys scream down down down! At 800 the same. At 350. What's the point? What do you want? When is it enough?
400, or when i see a nice solid base form and not just this random $200 candle to the moon.

So at 400 you're gonna buy a shitload of coins? Wait for 600 and then post all day we must go down again? Is that how being a bear works?
once i get my buy and ta confirms that a new rally is starting, i will probably move to cold storage and take a break from the forum for a while.
2809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 10:38:59 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

We've been going down for 2 months. At what point is it enough for you? When all the investors left and nobody is will to buy coins anymore? That good enough for you? Will that make you happy? Cheap coins right?
I see 2 weeks, not 2 months.

I NEVER get an answer to these questions. So when is it enough for you people? When we're at 1200 you guys scream down down down! At 800 the same. At 350. What's the point? What do you want? When is it enough?
400, or when i see a nice solid base form and not just this random $200 candle to the moon.

How could you tell the difference between a nice, solid base and the apparently nice solid base we had at $800?
That last candle wasn't random. I have almost no TA knowledge or experience and I could see it a mile off.
800?? LOL. there was no volume around that level. it was a mere 33% below ath, nowhere near any known trend line, and way to early for a.reversal. a joke, for noobs.

yes it was easy to see the spike coming because we were way oversold and news came out. that doesn't mean this is bottom. in june, someone bought up all the coins from 95 to 115 with one 20k buy order.

the bottom is when the price smashes against a certain level for a good amount of time and there's an unlimited amount of support until it starts slowly creeping up. Like gox did at 300, and then there's multiple additional high volume tests and they are all supported at gradually increasingly higher levels, until an explosion happens. a huge vertical wall of support continues to build behind the action as a new base.
2810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

We've been going down for 2 months. At what point is it enough for you? When all the investors left and nobody is will to buy coins anymore? That good enough for you? Will that make you happy? Cheap coins right?
I see 2 weeks, not 2 months.

I NEVER get an answer to these questions. So when is it enough for you people? When we're at 1200 you guys scream down down down! At 800 the same. At 350. What's the point? What do you want? When is it enough?
400, or when i see a nice solid base form and not just this random $200 candle to the moon.
2811  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good news! MtGox might enable BTC withdrawals again soon! on: February 15, 2014, 09:54:47 AM
remember litecoin is being implemented "soon"
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 09:53:39 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

We've been going down for 2 months. At what point is it enough for you? When all the investors left and nobody is will to buy coins anymore? That good enough for you? Will that make you happy? Cheap coins right?
I see 2 weeks, not 2 months.
2813  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good news! MtGox might enable BTC withdrawals again soon! on: February 15, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
and its still dumping. remarkable!
2814  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you have USD in Gox, you're lucky on: February 15, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
Ill have to admit the one good about gox is its still a brick and mortar business with real people and mark comes to work every day in the morning apparently. unlike btce and bitfinex which are run off of the moon.
2815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 09:28:27 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

are you kidding.. we've had full on panic bearstamp for long enough.

moar

2816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.
2817  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 15, 2014, 04:44:40 AM
Well I'm confused what this person means about their emotions versus "their gut". I thought gut was emotions. If this person had said "my emotions versus my brain" then I would understand more.
2818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2014, 04:38:21 AM
And there the silly sheep go again. Never ending story.
The sheep were the ones buying it up to 715.
2819  Economy / Speculation / Re: If mt gox is still allowing fiat deposits is that an indicator of something? on: February 15, 2014, 04:37:06 AM
"please stop sending me money" - said nobody ever.
2820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Transferring 25k into Gox to buy at current prices on: February 15, 2014, 04:36:13 AM
Dude, Ive been fighting with gox support to get a mere 2BTC (or $2000) OUT of their exchange for EIGHT weeks and your looking at putting money IN??  Huh
Think of it like a double or nothing gamble. If gox support fixes the withdrawals, then he doubles his money. If they don't, then he gets nothing. However, it's possible that even if they never fix btc withdrawal, he may be able to get the fiat back so it's actually better than double or nothing.
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