I'm not even sure it's illegal.
It is. Since you're french, I'm sure you remember the affair that happened few years ago with a company that wanted to distribute cash money in Paris. It has been forbidden by police, because "using money as support for advertising is illegal". |
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or just a simple "this is not money, visit bitcoin.org"
in the same spirit: "This is just a piece of paper. If you want real money, visit bitcoin.org" |
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Much better !
Just :
"Google 'bitcoin'"
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It might be counterproductive to say something inflammatory. The more we try to antagonize the powers that be, the sooner they will attack us. Let's just stop them, without telegraphing our intent... Plus, the people seeing it, might jump to an incorrect, prejudicial conclusion... I think it would be useful to arouse people's interest and curiosity, and actually prompt them to go to the site to find out what it is. Bitcoin will do the rest automagically... Or arouse people's self-interest, with something like "free payments www.bitcoin.org", or "instant money transfers www.bitcoin.org", etc... Sounds too much like what companies such as Paypal, MoneyGram or whatever could say. However, you're right about being too inflammatory. What about: "Check out the new decentralized digital currency on www.bitcoin.org" ? |
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Where could I but a stamping device?
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Davout has to do all this manually.
I guess he'll be ok for keeping it free as long as we don't complain about the time he gets to do things.
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In Brazil is not so rare to find reais bills with an entire prayer written on it... I guess a short phrase + URL would not be a problem at all.  Ok let's go for it, then.  |
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Or just spend them where people won't care.
Deposit them at the bank, if the numbers are visible they won't say anything.
I doubt so. If the note is marked somehow, I think they can refuse it. |
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Plus it'd be totally worth it. You get fined for stamping bills on bitcoins ? It will be free advertising, you'll probably make the amount of the fine with the mere increase of value of your BTCs The stamp has to be small, though. Otherwise it might be difficult to have the note be accepted by marchands. I propose a Bitcoin symbol, with a very short slogan, such has: "stop central banks, visit www.bitcoin.org" Written in very very small characters. PS. hum, I wonder if we could not just give 5EUR notes or 1$ notes to poor people. |
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Peut-être "entreprises et communautés".
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Might still be a good idea since it isn't possible to prove that you're the one that stamped them
True. |
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Using national currency notes for any kind of advertising is illegal in most countries.
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Vous êtes français, ou du moins francophone? Bienvenue ! Sur ce fil je vous propose de vous présenter brièvement, et de nous dire par exemple comment vous avez découvert l'existence du Bitcoin. Je commence. Moi je suis un ancien informaticien vivant à Paris. (en Picardie depuis 2012). J'ai appris l'existence des bitcoins sur Wikipedia, alors que je cherchais à m'informer sur les alternatives en matière monétaire. Je suis l'auteur de l'article au sujet des bitcoins sur linuxfr: http://linuxfr.org/2010/09/30/27430.htmlvoilà, à vous. Update: Faites-nous aussi savoir comment vous prononcez le mot "bitcoin". |
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Who cares if the gold bars are real or fake?
It's not like have ever been used, or will ever be used, for anything other than sitting in a safe anyhow.
And gold plated lead bars do that job equally well.
They're a bit like the Yap money stone that fell into the ocean, that the natives continued trading anyhow because they all agreed among themselves that it must still be down there.
You can't create as many real gold bars as you can create fake gold bars. Gold is useful as money because it can not be created out of nothing. It is therefore reliable as an accounting tool. Tungsten is not. See my thread "money as an accounting tool": http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2866.0 |
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The US dollar (which isn't redeemable for anything either), imagine suddenly everyone sold all their BTC on Mtgox and then more people and more people. You can have crash in the bitcoin market just like you can in the stockmarket.
That would be great. I could buy a LOT of bitcoins. I would also love to see this happen in the gold market. |
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Les Rencontres Mondiales du Lociel Libre, qui auront lieu cet année à Strasbourg en juillet, font un appel à conférence. Je me demande si on ne pourrait pas tenter une conférence sur Bitcoin et les cryptodevises. http://2011.rmll.info/appel.html |
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And anyway, if GoogCoin is based on open-source software, with similar principles than bitcoin... Google or Zynga could maybe succeed with the launch of a currency, but even for them it wouldn't be easy. In the UK, many people still remember the collapse of internet currencies such as Flooz and Beenz. To some extend a Google share holding is already a "google currency". At some point they will be smart enough to understand that they can use the bitcoin software to share their capital. I am so hoping for this, since IMO it will revolutionnize capitalism. I'm not sure I will live long enough to see it though  |
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I think gusti has identified one of the biggest threats to bitcoin. GoogCoin, or maybe ZyngaCoin, as they already have tens of millions of customers who are doing micro-transactions everyday.
It's not a threat at all, it's just normal, healthy competition, and it has been discussed many times already on this forum. And anyway, if GoogCoin is based on open-source software, with similar principles than bitcoin, then soon enough the GoogCoin will not be related to Google Inc. except for its name. I then might sell some of my bitcoins to buy those GoogCoins. I won't mind. |
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And only from an economical point of view ?
I mean, additional similar new networks can devaluate BTC value, or not ?
No. Currencies don't devaluate each other. Mugabe didn't hurt the USD when he printed trillions of zimbabwean dollars. |
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