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2801  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 5970 users - Avg Mhash/s on: March 16, 2011, 04:04:29 PM
And they guys hardware looks like he's got it all mickey moused in the kitchen of his home

What's wrong with that and why it should affect quality of his preinstalled hdds? There is no reason to build rigs into well looking boxes; design does not what improve your hashrate.
2802  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~50 Gh/s Mining Pool] Get 1-2% more with long polling ! No failed blocks. on: March 16, 2011, 09:55:12 AM
I get 0.6~0.7 stale share with LP I believe. Not bad, but not perfect

Nothing is perfect and LP don't lead to absolute zero of stale shares; there are still latencies in server broadcasts, on network level, miner have to refresh his job internally etc. I think 0.3% is the minimum which can be done with current infrastructure, so 0.6% isn't SO bad.

Btw I'm thinking that better number for showing LP effectivity should be (stale shares)/(new blocks notifications), which tell us in how many cases was the LP broadcast too late. It is more exact than (stale shares)/(submitted shares), because this number depends also on bitcoin network speed (difficulty and hashrate) and when new blocks are coming faster or slower than before, this number will be affected. What do you think, Tycho?
2803  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 11:53:16 PM
Oh so they took it down? Sad I was planning on seeing if I ever got enough money for a vacation in europe.  Maybe I'll see the horse then instead.

It's in (I think military) museum, but I never been here.
2804  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
Hey Slush totally random question for you feel free to not answer if you want.  I see you are from Prague I have heard there is a pink tank or something there my friend told me about it have you ever seen this "pink tank"?

Hehe, everybody in Czech knows Pink tank #23. But it isn't on Smíchov for more than 15 years, they removed it long before I came to Prague. So no, I never seen it Smiley.

Btw it was done by David Černý, a little controversal artist Wink. I like also his Dead Horse which is hanging 20 meters from my office. Both artworks are tightly related to Czech history and mentality.
2805  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 09:44:07 PM
Better look at daily reward.

...which will be also low for today, because we hit few extra long rounds.

Edit: Finally the day wasn't so bad, pool found 5 blocks in the row (firstly in history?) few minutes before midnight. Yes, that's the probability Smiley.
2806  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
I'm not sure about the "connected: No" thing, but as far as the Active Workers count is concerned, it may have to do with something I've noticed.  I've seen that soon after a round ends, the workers on my account page show a last submitted share time typically far longer than when they actually submitted a share.  I haven't looked at it closely enough to determine if it's a time zone thing or not, but I have seen the my account page show last submitted times within the last 30 seconds, refresh the page 2 minutes later (consequently a new round begins during that time), and then it says the last submitted share is hours ago rather than 2 and a half minutes ago.  Just a thought as to why the active workers count (within the last hour) drops to zero when a new round begins.

Yes, all those bugs are related to single thing, to the update of "last submit timestamp" for each worker, which is currently incorrect (it is only correct immediately after processing the last block); I'll fix that, it just need little workaround. All this is because I optimized data structures for writing instead of for reading  (as there are tens or hundreds of writes per second, but only few readings), so reading exact timestamp for every worker cannot be so "cheap" in all cases. I have to do some postprocessing (denormalization) on the dataset to allow fast reading of them. But this bug does not affect mining core and calculating rewards in any case.
2807  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
Active workers (at least one share in last hour): 0

Yes, this and "connected: No" in hall of fame are known bugs. I'll fix it soon, now I'd like to finish long polling and related updates.
2808  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 12:15:01 PM
Hey Slush have you switched payout to only daily or something?  Usually it goes out hourly but have been over the payout minimum for a few hours now.

Thanks for reporting; I found that one wallet had insufficient funds for paying tx fees. It is fixed now, payment should be processed withing one hour.
2809  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [NEW POOL & NEW MINER] - BitcoinPool.com - Jump In! on: March 15, 2011, 10:07:52 AM
Btw insider look and friendly advice:

Please fix algorithm on your homepage for calculating hashspeed. The constructs like

Code:
mysql_num_rows(mysql_query("SELECT user FROM shares"))

when you have round with hundreds of thousands shares are strange and my eyes are bleeding. Did you ever seen something like

Code:
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM shares
?

Also, there is not needed to perform two database calls, your current hashspeed can be done only with knowing of count of shares in statistics window.
2810  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [NEW POOL & NEW MINER] - BitcoinPool.com - Jump In! on: March 15, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
To be honest, I haven't looked in quite some time (a month or so) but I know that at one point, I was testing a client that ended up spamming a large number of getworks to his server for a few seconds, and I noticed the pool speed dramatically increase at the same time. It could have been purely coincidental, which is why I said, "as far as I know".

My pool calculate hashspeed from submitted shares, not from requested getworks, of course.

Your reverse engineering failed. I publishly noted that there were bugs in getwork/s and hashrate/s meters. To explain that: I'm writing operational stats to database in sligly delayed fashion, so stats are queueing and then processed in batch (the delay is ~5 sec, so nothing dramatical). The bug was caused by race condition in writing actual stats queue to database, so in case of server overloading, more threads processed the same database write and the info about actually processed shares doubled/trippled/quadrupled. This affected only stats page, no calculating shares/score for users.

So when you overloaded the pool (thank you), you triggered this bug. It was fixed few days ago.
2811  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 15, 2011, 01:08:17 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone uses my worker's username they just generate bitcoins for me. So what is the purpose of the password?

Well, it is little complicated under the hood. Server must remember jobs which served you, to be able to perform some checks on share submitting. As the server has limited memory for every worker jobs, with knowledge of user/password, the attacker can make your mining impossible by erasing your worker queue. Well, it is nothing to too much worry about, but posting your full worker credentials on the web isn't generally good idea.
2812  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 14, 2011, 11:58:56 PM
Do I actually need a seperate user entry for each miner? I just noticed that I accidentaly gave two of my miners the same username to use and it simply added both their shares together...

There are some technical reasons why it isn't good idea. In some cases your miners might duplicate the effort (and from two same submitted shares, only one will be accounted). Simply - don't do that, really Smiley.
2813  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 14, 2011, 11:55:38 PM
I fit in to this boat but for the life of me can't figure out how to use these "miner programs" to contribute to mining.bitcoin.cz
 Embarrassed

Please select one from supported miners (in your case, it will be probably jgarzik's CPU miner) and follow instructions in his forum thread. The link is on the pool homepage. If you will have any troubles with that, don't hesitate to ask more specific directly in that thread.
2814  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 14, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
im getting some stales (1 per 20 valid blocks). should i set my askrate lower? right now, its 5 (poclbm default)

No, leave it as is. I had to restart bitcoin daemons on the server, so the stale shares were probably caused by short outage.
2815  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: MINING IS PROFITABLE on: March 14, 2011, 05:25:15 PM
+10 to sipa

this is a link well worthy a bookmark, particularly given that it is updated almost real time .

What are we really seeing here? This is the first time I've seen this graph, but is it projecting difficulty will be going down, or am I reading things totally wrong?

Yes, the difficulty was artifically pulled up by Mystery Miner operation, so when he disconnected his botnet, it is going back down. Also probably many users decided to not buy another rigs during previous difficulty window, because hashrate started to rise exponentially.
2816  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: High Hash Rigs - Solo or Pool? on: March 14, 2011, 03:49:31 AM
Did I read that right, and you got 4017BTC to yourself?

Yes
2817  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: High Hash Rigs - Solo or Pool? on: March 14, 2011, 03:06:39 AM
What's the general consensus on solo vs pooled mining in regards to rigs that have a high hashing capacity?

I've been mining as part of Slush's pool for 26 hours now and I'm currently £1.90 above the cost of electricity (£4.10), but if my machine stands a good chance of regularly hitting the 50BTC jackpot every day or two, wouldn't this be a much better way to mine?

I'm very new to mining so any insights you have a very much appreciated  Roll Eyes

In long term, it will be the same. It depends only on your personality if you prefer steady payouts or gambling Smiley. I know that some people here were lucky and earned much more than expected (for example 7 blocks per day). But on the other hand, you can mine week or two without a block. Probability is a bitch Smiley.

With pool, you can be sure that you will have expected amount on your account every day; no more, no less.

I almost never mined solo; I did pool 14 days after I bought my first card. But during those 14 days I was on 60% of expected payout. Few days ago I checked my results on the pool. I found 80th block for the pool and my total reward was 4017 BTC, so it is really very constant.
2818  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 14, 2011, 01:17:27 AM
Anybody know if the poclbm.py miner is asynchronous? (I'll ask m0mchill also I guess) It is apparent on screen that hash rate drops after a block is accepted and new one is begun but is that what is happening on the core?

Currently the poclbm does not drop job when share is found. Afaik the whole network stuff is in separate thread, so it should work 'asynchronous'. But I didn't do any debugging, maybe it is really handing somewhere. m0mchil performs new getwork before whole nonce space is crunched, so unless you have really crappy line, it should work fine.

Btw ongoing improvements in the pool will make network load waay lower than it is now. And I'm not talking only about long polling Wink.
2819  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (120Ghash/s) on: March 14, 2011, 12:42:41 AM
I am wondering if you had considered increasing the difficulty for your pool shares?, i.e. making it >1

It would reduce getwork calls across the internet, for the higher hash rate cards it seems to make more sense to be working on a harder problem, maybe a separate pool for bigger cards? They spend quite a bit of time waiting for the new work, taken in clock cycles versus wall-clock ...

Well, with well written miner, there is no reason why cores should wait on submitting shares; it can be done fully in asynchronous way (just send, don't wait - at least in blocking state - to response). Maybe the feature request to the miner developers? Wink Blocking getworks are another issue, but I'm working on it - its long polling and next stuff comming soon.

The higher difficulty for fast cards are good idea, it is already on my list for some time. It will definitely come, I have some algorithms to find 'idea' difficulty for given worker in my head; will see how it will work in real life Smiley. Keep in mind that higher difficulty does not mean only lower network overhead, but also higher variance in round rewards and maybe also some new kind of pool attacks, so it need some care to don't break anything.
2820  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [NEW POOL & NEW MINER] - BitcoinPool.com - Jump In! on: March 13, 2011, 11:43:41 PM
That's all you needed to do.  That wasn't so hard was it?


LOL, you don't understand. I didn't apologize for anything. I was just constructive about your last change.

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We'll make the change later tonight to the code to allow this miner on your pool.

Oh, I didn't know that you banned me :-). Please, keep me banned, really.

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I'm glad you finally realize that a higher level of efficiency reduces the cost of running your pool.

No, nothing changed from my previous statements about efficiency of long ask rate. But that discussion is over, I hope.

And to be clear, I said that I 'quite like' the solution. Still think that long polling, which I'm testing on my pool (and is already in production on tycho's one, to be clear), is better way to go. But it's no offence.
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