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2801  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: .05 BTC bounty - act now! on: December 30, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
okay its out is this 225amp max at a 208volt's max this is because of 225 Amp Main Breaker this puts it at 46.8 kw's here is a calc for it
http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/power-calculator.htm

put in the volts output of 208 and amps max is the main breaker of 225amps
hope this helps

edit its not 3 phase as no power factor is listed in spec

First of all you can tell there's a 480/277 to 208/120 transformer in here because those are the voltages listed in the listing, which clearly indicates three phase power because 208 is the line to line voltage between two of the phases and 120 is the line to neutral voltage between a phase and the neutral.

Also you multiplied the output line to line voltage by the input current, incorrectly. After the current passes through the transformer it will will increase (as indicated in the listing) because a transformer will change the voltage, and the current, but the power remains the same. P = (V1 x I1) = (V2 x I2).

Still don't understand how this will "supply" any "watts to [12V] mining equipment [OP]" though...
2802  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatistan on: December 30, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Ide mi ta verifilacija na jednu stvar.. samo još fali uzorak dnk, urina, stolice i osnovnoškolske svjedodžbe...

Ne će vam dugo faliti, već se ("uspešno") eksperimentiše sa implantiranjem RFID chip u ljudima...

A ove budale (ovde u Nizozemskoj) su čak i sretne sa "dodatnim servisom", pošto se može plaćati po diskotekama bez da nosiš išta (novčanik/karticu/mobitel) sa sobom...

PS ponavljam, dobro nam došli u EUSSR!
2803  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatistan on: December 30, 2014, 03:51:13 PM

Nisam siguran da li bi to moglo funkcionirati kod nas uz česte porezne i ine kontrole ugostiteljskih objekata.
Sigurno bi poreznici primjetili da nešto ''ne štima'' da svi u lokalu igraju igrice a ne plaća se nikakav porez.
Mislim da bi vlasnik lokala morao odgovoriti na neka ''teška pitanja'' poreznicima i ne vjereujem da bi bili oduševljeni sa idejom viurtualne valute s kojom se izbjegava plaćanje doprinosa i poreza državi.

A kako funkcionira btc bankomat u zagrebu? mislim, tehnički rečeno, ne bi bilo tu pretjerane razlike.. ja na tom bankomatu kupim virtualnu valutu, a to što dalje s tim radim, nikoga se u principu ne tiče..


Magična reč: "u principu". Pa zar se vi ne trebate ligitimisati kod BTC-bankomata?
2804  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Please say where can buy cheapest rigs? (Electricity usage doesn't matter) on: December 30, 2014, 03:45:46 PM
...
I wanted to try Spondoolies, but unfortunately their 2 SP20's for $1000,- offer was very short lived...
...
RoadStress's GB is still open.

Nah, no third parties. Thank you... (You did have that offer [$500,-/pc. with a min. order of 2] on your own site for a day or two, didn't you?)
2805  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: December 30, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
Ja to zaista vidim obrnuto :

1. fundamentalna analiza: vrednost BTC je decentralizovan način prenošenja "gotovine". Ovo je od velikog značaja za trgovce (uglavnom poljoprivrednici) u zemljama sa (relativno) visokom inflacijom i sa režimima koji ne tolerišu trgovinu stranih valuta (u vrh glave pod strogim nadzorom). Međutim, ta suštinska vrednost je izgubljena : a. konverzija BTC prema bilo koje FIAT-valute je sada (za "normalnog" čoveka) ​vrlo strogo regulisana;. i b . Bitcoin je prošle godine doživeo veću inflaciju od većine valute.

2. tehnička analiza: Bitcoin je zapravo već pao kroz dno i preokret nije na (kratki rok na) vidiku . Ove (velike) BTC rudarske farme jednostavno imaju inherentan prodajan pritisak; oni moraju nastaviti da prodavaju BTC . Oni jednostavno nemaju taj luksuz da zadrže svoj BTC. Oni moraju da plate svoje OPEX (troškovi kirije / hipoteka, troškovi energije , administrativne i IT troškove , itd.) i onda još nisam ni spomenuo troškove amortizacije (što bih se još moglo "nositi") i dividende (verovali ili ne , ali mnogi "investitori" samo misle na dobitak u kratkom roku ...)
2806  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: Betalen met bitcoins? Maar mijn investering dan??? on: December 30, 2014, 02:53:53 PM
Flink inchashen gaat in 2016 gebeuren wanneer de block halving plaats vindt, ik zou nu alvast bitcoins sparen voor dat moment.

Ik zie't eerder andersom:

1. fundamenteel: de waarde van bitcoin is een decentrale manier van overhevelen van liquide middelen. Dit was van grote waarde voor handelaren (lees: vooral boeren) in landen met een (relatief) hoge inflatie en met regimes die de handel in vreemde (lees: harde) valuta niet tolereren (aan zeer strikte banden leggen). Deze intrinsieke waarde is echter verloren gegaan: a. de omzetting van BTC naar FIAT valuta is nu (voor de "normale" man) wel erg strikt gereguleerd; en, b. Bitcoin zelf heeft het laatste jaar een grotere inflatie ondervonden dan de meeste valuta.

2. technisch: is de Bitcoin eigenlijk al door de bodem gezakt en een ommekeer is op (korte) termijn niet in zicht. De (grote) BTC-farms hebben nu eenmaal een inherente verkoopdruk; zij moeten BTC blijven verkopen. Ze hebben simpelweg de luxe niet om (bijvoorbeeld tot 2016) - een groot deel van - hun BTC vast te houden, ze moeten namelijk ondertussen wel hun OPEX blijven betalen (huurkosten/hypotheeklasten, elektriciteitskosten, beheerskosten et cetera) en dan heb ik het nog niet eens over de afschrijvingskosten (kun je voor kiezen om die te "nemen") en dividenduitkeringen (geloof het of niet, maar veel "investeerders" denken nu eenmaal korte termijn...
2807  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Please say where can buy cheapest rigs? (Electricity usage doesn't matter) on: December 30, 2014, 02:34:23 PM

Don't buy Technobit. Too many complaints and unreliable delivery.

How is that different from Bitmain?


1. Have a look at <...>

The only look I have is my own personal experience with both manufacturers and I must say that IMHO there is very little difference between them in the end. (Although I would suggest to Marto to change his "tone" in communications, I "understand" him [being from the Balkan myself] but I also understand international business requires cross-cultural communication...)



Well 1 person is happy. 100s are not. Given my review of the situation you are lucky.

Well wait a minute there... I'm not "happy" with either one of them... (But they both still "beat" BFL by a long stretch...)

Given the volume that Bitmain does they are far fewer complaints per 1000 customers. Why is that? Technobit doesn't have nearly the capacity or the team. Again I would not risk buying anything from Technobit when you have better options. How about Spondoolies? Avoids both problems.

I wanted to try Spondoolies, but unfortunately their 2 SP20's for $1000,- offer was very short lived...

It is more than a CULTURAL issue with Marto. He has burned quite a number of people pretty badly and getting blood from that stone is pretty hard. Unlike Bitmain where if you hammer hard enough they will eventually make you whole again and they are working to improve that CRM whereas Technobit with every new version of their miner makes more unhappy customers.

I noticed, but I must admit that I'm even more allergic to the Bitmain "hammer hard enough" method... I'm a bit insulted by that frankly; I put up with half my S3's performing under specs [422, 441, 444 vs. 453, 453 and 453 Gh/s] because of the "hassle" Bitmain was putting me through for the RMA. And now I see if you just yell hard and public enough you get PM offers...

Notice the "core" people who are happy with Technobit are either "Newbs" or first time buyers or long time insiders. Unlike Bitmain who for all their faults have a solid following that has allowed them to sell those S5s.

I am not noticing a lot of "happy" people with either manufacturer, just complaints...  Tongue
2808  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Please say where can buy cheapest rigs? (Electricity usage doesn't matter) on: December 30, 2014, 01:43:46 PM

Don't buy Technobit. Too many complaints and unreliable delivery.

How is that different from Bitmain?


1. Have a look at <...>

The only look I have is my own personal experience with both manufacturers and I must say that IMHO there is very little difference between them in the end. (Although I would suggest to Marto to change his "tone" in communications, I "understand" him [being from the Balkan myself] but I also understand international business requires cross-cultural communication...)

2809  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Please say where can buy cheapest rigs? (Electricity usage doesn't matter) on: December 30, 2014, 01:18:55 PM

Don't buy Technobit. Too many complaints and unreliable delivery.

How is that different from Bitmain?
2810  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatistan on: December 30, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Ne znam baš kolko bi se Lalovcu svidilo kad bi na svakom uglu nikao bar koji ne plaća porez Cheesy
Pa bar ko bar bi plaćao porez na cugu.. o tome tu nije riječ... Wink
Ali to gdje i kako gosti troše bitcoine po raznim kockarskim u krajnju ruku je njihova odgovornost, zar ne?

Ne, ako se ti BTC na mestu izmenjivaju za HRK...  Roll Eyes

Stavis bankomat. U Splitu npr. casino Admiral. Mozes ubacit kune i izade ti bon u vrijednosti HRK koliko si uplatio. Takoder, taj isti bon mozes iskesirat za HRK.

Sad, na istu semu, napravis sistem sa "sluzbenim" altcoinom kockarnice i to ti je to.
U prostoriju stavis 10, 20 aparata koji primaju bonove. Sa strane negdje stavis bankomat koji pljuje bonove i lovu. Doduse, sad meznam kako ide papirologija i oporezivanje istog.

Ni ja ne znam (zivim u Nizozemsku) ali posto je RH usla u EU, i poznavajuci EU imam predpostavku...  Tongue

PS dobro nam dosli u EU!  Grin
2811  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatistan on: December 30, 2014, 11:50:36 AM
Ne znam baš kolko bi se Lalovcu svidilo kad bi na svakom uglu nikao bar koji ne plaća porez Cheesy
Pa bar ko bar bi plaćao porez na cugu.. o tome tu nije riječ... Wink
Ali to gdje i kako gosti troše bitcoine po raznim kockarskim u krajnju ruku je njihova odgovornost, zar ne?

Ne, ako se ti BTC na mestu izmenjivaju za HRK...  Roll Eyes
2812  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Moderatora on: December 30, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
[...](note for him: it is a'free job')[...]

Why do you reckon it's a "free job", AFAIK it's a paid job... Not that this has anything to do with the question whether there "should be [a] moderator of this section".

Since when are moderators paid? Because, one should not take things too easily (even though the section is small).
They might be getting a small sum from AD revenue, but I'm not sure about that?

It was a note to him, I've also given a 'go' for him What is the problem?

No problem whatsoever, but you're making unneeded assumptions (a. paid or not; b. off topic)...

PS but thank you for proving Theymos's point that this section should be moderated...  Wink
2813  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Moderatora on: December 30, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
[...](note for him: it is a'free job')[...]

Why do you reckon it's a "free job", AFAIK it's a paid job... Not that this has anything to do with the question whether there "should be [a] moderator of this section".
2814  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: .05 BTC bounty - act now! on: December 29, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
None,

It clearly states:
SPECIFICATION
OUTPUT
208/120 volts  

I don't know which miners you had in mind, but generally ASIC miners run at 10-12 volts...
2815  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: [ANN] Gems - De volgende generatie Instant Messaging app op de Bitcoin protocol on: December 29, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
Blijft altijd leuk om zo'n met Google Translate verneukt draadje te zien, maar dat ff terzijde.
Ik ben eens benieuwd wie als de winnaar uit de bus zal komen. Gems, SendChat of StartChat. Alle drie gebaseerd op Telegram.

Megachat?
2816  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 29, 2014, 08:38:09 AM
Just wondering, since these things run on 12v, has anyone tried running an S1 or S3 using a car battery?

Why? At best you'll get a few hours of a decent one and a battery will typically drop voltage as it discharges. Both of those don't really make them appropriate for mining with.

Maybe to run it of an old disel engine running on some cheap (disgarded/cooking/frying?) oil... Huh
2817  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: December 28, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
@sbogovac

Sve su to spekulacije. "Pukao balon"..
Znas koliko je puta bukao taj "balon"? BTC je jos tu. Spektulatori, traderi i ostali su jos tu.

Treba vremena da se prosiri na veci nivo, cela prica bitcoin-a i Bitcoin-a.
Kao sto pare menjaju ruke, tako i BTC menja ruke.

95% sto procitam ovde na forumu nije bas aktuelno/tacno.

Na ovom forumu nitko nezna sto radi Grin
Barem sto se tice spekulatora...

Tako izgleda,
Drs. Slobodan Bogovac MBA
2818  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: December 28, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
Uvek kroz istoriju kada dodje do velike krize ekonomske traze se alternative a ovo je jedina realna , mora se resetovati sistem da bi funkcionisao. CITAJTE ISTORIJU SVE IDE U KRUG.  Grin Smiley

Alternativa postoji,tvorci ekonomske krize neće se odreći štampanja dolara-toalet papira bez podloge u zlatu
Pa izmedju ostalog, zapadu bitcoin moze biti odlicno sredstvo za pranje para...tako da eto jos jednog razloga za skok.

Ne postoji losiji nacin "pranja para". Bitcoinov bitchain je totalno uvidljiv, sve transakcije su vidljive za svakog...

Pored toga ne postoji jednostavno dovoljno vrednosti u BTC-u za to: danasnja totalna vrednost BTC-a je: $ 4,333,871,152. To jest: malo preko 4 Milijarda dollara... nit kikiriki pored financiske transakcije ovoga sveta...
2819  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: December 28, 2014, 06:55:41 PM
Uvek kroz istoriju kada dodje do velike krize ekonomske traze se alternative a ovo je jedina realna , mora se resetovati sistem da bi funkcionisao. CITAJTE ISTORIJU SVE IDE U KRUG.  Grin Smiley

Alternativa postoji,tvorci ekonomske krize neće se odreći štampanja dolara-toalet papira bez podloge u zlatu

navodno je dolar sada pokriven 2-3 centi u jednom dolaru....i to ide sve niže i niže

Imas li igdje izvor te informacije? Bas me zanima Smiley

Quote
Does the Federal Reserve own or hold gold?
The Federal Reserve does not own gold.
   Federal Reserve
Quote
How much does it cost to produce currency and coin?
   Cost of Production
 

Pokrivanje Dollara zlatom je vec decenijama prestao... Trenutni system (procitajte link Federal reserva) je po "fiat" (ima vrdnost zato sto mi svi verujemo da ima vrednost...).

"The Bretton Woods system ended on August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon ended trading of gold at the fixed price of $35/ounce. At that point for the first time in history, formal links between the major world currencies and real commodities were severed". The gold standard has not been used in any major economy since that time."
2820  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: December 28, 2014, 06:50:40 PM
Naravno da ce da skoci cena bit coina. Ko gleda u buducnost shvati ce. Sam bit coin je otvorio pandorinu kutiju sto se tice svetske ekonomije puno toga olaksava i ostavlja prostor za velike spekulante i bankare i razorazne projekte. Trenutno ga testiraju i sagledavaju njegove mogucnosti koje su bezbrojne.

Istina, ali za to nije potreban Bitcoin, samo Google... Potrazite sami, veoma je jednostavno kopirati tu technoligiju (zato i postoje toliko puno Alt-coinovi...).

Vesti pratite na coindesk.com tamo vam sve pise sta je aktuelno. A i sami znate da se pojavio na bbc u prosle godine i ove godine je fbi prodao javno desetine hiljada , i to vam govori da BTC kuca na velika vrata.

FBI prodaje Bitcoine koji su zapljeneni u potrazima i presude ljude i tvrtke koje su u SAD pale... To ne znaci da FBI ima bilo kakav interes niti neku viziju za buducnost sa BTC, samo izvlace maksimalno iz zaplenjene imovine...

Naravno ovo je moje misljenje ali pogledajte realno ja ga pratim od septembra 2013 i veliki sam optimista.
Pozdrav nasima. Grin Smiley [....]Uvek kroz istoriju kada dodje do velike krize ekonomske traze se alternative a ovo je jedina realna , mora se resetovati sistem da bi funkcionisao. CITAJTE ISTORIJU SVE IDE U KRUG.  Grin Smiley

Kao sto sam gore naveo, ja ne vidim nikakvu fundamentalnu vrednost vise u Bitcoinu a technicka vrednost je u jos gorem stanju, ako cemo od 2013...:



Pukao balon. Byebye Bitcoin.
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