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quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on.

initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings.

i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page  till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled.

too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many.

re: infofronts "fuckyoucoiner" poll

my answer is based on todays value of ~$4k USD.

voted 200-499

reason is less than 200 btc is currently worth less than 1 mil USD (800k) max. now, combined with my other assets that possibly could meet minimum "set for life" money (although i would have to be careful) baring catastrophic collapse of fiat or other large scale unforeseen collapse of local civilization. although it could survive some fairly major "shit hits the fan things." largely because i already have a lot of what i need and all is paid off, in good repair, common failure mode spare parts, plus a decent amount of common maintenance stuff like tools, fuel, oil, filters are already purchased. stuff is well taken care of, and i have gone through a LOT of more or less worst case scenarios in my head, test my infrastructure and backup systems regularly, and modify things as real world testing indicates. a couple real world tests have validated my setups (tornado, week long power outage).

but to me thats not really "fuckyoucoiner" level. as you really have to e careful who you say "fuck you" to (aside from JJG on "fuckyou thursday" of course ).

so, at todays ~4k price i voted 200 - 499. so 800k-2 mil. split the difference, say 1.5 mil. combined with what i have that translates into being pretty comfortable. should allow a good sized cushion against much unforeseen stuff, still allow a pretty good lifestyle with the option of discretionary buying of toys and such. provides a decent amount of "fuck you" to things.

keep in mind that im older. younger people would need more as it needs to last longer. and if btc moons, well infofront will need a new poll.

the object of this thread is to figure out the object of this thread.

kinda

sorta

well not really

yeah that movie is a gearheads dream. my kind of insane for sure. better than the original (in my opinion).

i saw articles that said most of the vehicle stunts were real with only minor video FX embellishments and saw photos but this is the 1st time ive seen video.

just wait till you turn into your father/mother.

paper wallets worked well for me. the bulk of my btc sat in paper wallets for years till i split the bcash_lol out.

one thing to keep in mind when making paper wallets: you may want to make them with small amounts of btc. because what may be only a few hundred bucks on one paper wallet today may be worth a ridiculous amount later when you sweep them. so consider making lots of smaller ones.

like, attaining ones goals is a bad thing?

cant win

maybe youre thinking of what is actually labeled "cheese food" or something like that for the fake stuff here in the usa.

food labels have gotten better in the usa but they still mislead as much as possible.

ah so i see youre familiar with the sqrl-acorn channel  

now that you mention it they (BFL ASICS) were supported by both cgminer (-ck) and bfgminer (luke-jr). one is a fork of the other. i always used cgminer though.

there was (maybe still is) quite the war as to who forked who.

cant remember what the FPGA used, but i think that was cgminer too. the only software i remember for thier FPGA was a program to load different bitstreams.. i ran the second to highest speed one but needed to run it with no case and a 120mm blowing on it or it throttled.

now that i have fpgas again (sqrl acorns and bcu1525) i feel the strange urge to get the bfl fpga running again just for the lulz.

trezor after fire and water damage. still worked iirc.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Z2eUs

i know theres a post on reddit about it, search "veterinarian house fire trezor" this was not me btw.

but the main takeaway: KEEP SEED WORDS SAFE. several places, at least one completely off site.

i transfer funds from old to new hardware wallets (or same hardware wallet with new seed) every so often. and until the new seed for the wallet is redundantly, securely safe i am paranoid of funds being lost via loss of device, disaster or device failure with no access to the seeds (seed loss is maybe due to stupidity/fire/cant remember where they are kept etc)

another takeaway: VERIFY THE SEEDS and DO A DRY RECOVERY RUN on the device. you need to be absolutely sure you can recover via seed, so practice the procedure.

EDIT: i have one of the early trezors, from 2013 i think. still works fine. and im not gentle with it. YMMV

well IF the software ever arrives i would like to have the replacement already in hand to run on day one of the release.

dunno how long this whole 101 swapout thing will take (days? weeks?) but if i had a lot of (or perhaps only) 101s i sure wouldnt be happy that everyone else is mining away while my 101s sit around till the swap finishes.

so i am glad the swap came 1st.

worse comes to worse now ill have three matching paperweights instead of two 215+s and an oddball 101.
 

i hear ya. but ive got around a grand tied up in acorms and nests, so whats an extra $55.

sure i think this is wrong on one level, the 101 upgrade should be free. and i thought there was going to be a special 215 model that the 101 could trade to. speced out somewhat under a standard 215.

i would have done it like so:

101 to "special edition" 215 - free, including free shipping.
101 to 215 and 215plus - ok add a bit for trades like that.

i think they (they = someone i have no remembrance of who or if they are connected to sqrl) said those who keep the 101s may have some sort of special, one time support algo boost on something but no later updates for it.

but again i just see bits and pieces from discord so take all that i say with a grain of salt.

once i have the upgraded part ill post.

and sure this reeks of some sort of exit strategy. but at least this is much more classy. for whats THATs worth.

^

not yet.

been rumors that the miner wont be out till the 101 tradein program is done. there were other rumors that the miner will be released, then the 101 trade in.

but seems the trade in is happening now, before the miner. i have my email from them, i elected to trade my 101 for a 215+

options were $15 for a 215, $35 to a 215+. add $20 for shipping. and they will be cross shipped. EDIT or not cant remember where i saw that.

haven't paid yet, just verified shipping addy and phone number.

strike that i now have an invoice and order number. they will give the payment addy later today.

agree.

i glanced briefly at the loan stuff that seems to enable this 6%. for loans, seems a lotta collateral needed and its current value compared to the remaining load amount is constantly reevaluated and may need additional collateral or payments at any time. and its high interest, but i dont remember the amount.

didnt really try running numbers (interest paid vs loans income) as im not that interested. maybe someone else could see if its even remotely possible with the numbers they give.

seems untenable really.

but. i did look around the site. no taxable event moving a coin there (or out i presume?). interest paid in same crypto as deposit. 1099 tax form sent with interest made for tax purposes. so you are taxed only on the interest. not sure how they figure that in USD when interest was in btc..

if you dont mind losing it, might be worth a play (for some). 1 btc or 45 eth minimum.

of course "not you keys not your btc."

risky but if you dont mind losing it all it might be appealing to some. as it would earn 6% that the btc in yer cold wallet doesnt.

nice, till you lose 100% of it. ooops

ah. that explains our difference.

my "fuckyou" point is like state tax too high and regulation written like 4 years olds did it? fuck you state. sell/move everything: pick any state like thats less greedy/restrictive to move and just go.

weathers too cold? fuck you weather. hey i hear halfway round the planet is nice this time of year; instant 4-6 month vacation traveling the warmer climates.

someones properties has trees or structures that block your otherwise awesome view of nature? fuck you folks* name a price to sell your properties. ok here you go. ya got 3 months and then my crew comes in to make a more pleasant view for ourselves and our cats to look at.

* i would be more polite of course.

etc

yup

OK, one million? for one person middle age or older maybe it could be done but a millions bucks is nothing like what it once was. but with good planning and a restrained financial lifestyle i could be done. ration those "fuckyous" though, you wont have many.

to me 5 million USD is the ABSOLUTE LEAST amount where anyone can start to ignore most things and live passively the rest of their life. limited "fuckyou" stuff though.

25  mill USD? now yer talking. but keep going..

50 mil? ok thats decent,  pretty nice "fuckyou" allocation reached.

100 million.. THATS "fuckyou money

~330.. ~650..

??

man the numbers im thinking of are considerably higher.. like at least 10k btc. as in $40 million USD. as a starting number.

am i THAT decadent?

i SUPPOSE i could deal with 10 million USD, so 2.5k btc. but man thats gonna cramp my style and really limit who i can say "fuckyou" to.

EDIT: using $4,000 USD to make maths easier

sounds good to me. im curious as to the numbers myself.