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2801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 on: November 13, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.
2802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: November 13, 2021, 09:26:59 PM
No update yet on the betting odds of this fight?

Been searching for the odds online and I could not find any information about it.
The fight is next month so I'm kinda excited about checking the odds as I am the type of bettor who would love to put a bet early.
Didn’t see any as well, maybe its too early to place a bet but once its available that’s your choice. Hopefully no more changes along the road to make this happen next Month because I’m also excited to watch this two boxer. Usually, I place my bet weeks before the fight which I think the odds are more reasonable by that time, let’s see if some sportsbook will have this as early as now.
This fight is not even popular internatiionally, the purse is very small and it's not the usual purse Casimero would receive and he blamed that for the lack of support from MP promotion, probably the reason why he is now working with a new promoter.

https://filipino.news/2021/10/09/boxing-casimero-frustrated-by-lack-of-support-in-butler-fight/
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MP Promotions did not participate in the purse bid which was won unopposed by Richard Schaefer’s Probellum with a submission of $ 105,000.

Casimero will get 75 percent of that near-minimum winning purse bid, which amounts to $ 75,750 before deductions. This is a big paycut from the six-digit figures he used to receive.

Butler, meanwhile, will get 25 percent of the purse or $ 26,250.

But the reigning WBO champion vowed to continue to fight despite the cut.

“I will fight even without support !!! Let’s go! I will fight for something to be given again,” Casimero said in his Facebook post.

So I think even a week before the fight the odds would still not be availalbe, just to be sure, check a day before the fight.
2803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 13, 2021, 08:47:30 PM

Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?
You cant cross out the possibilities or chances because when it comes to money then someone could really risk up something or done anything that they haven't done before even if its against on principle but with money then it could really be changed up everytime.

I would like to know as well if there are some source out of those statement above and its true that it couldn't really be proven
out unless if those are really been happening or said.

They are making money out of this arrangement which it is just normal that they would be following up some script.

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.
2804  Economy / Speculation / Re: 60k price recovery achieved on: November 13, 2021, 08:08:47 PM
Ever since the Bitcoin all-time high price of 64k in April 2021 before it drops below 30k before recovering gradually and today another landscape was achieved with Bitcoin now selling for $60,234 this price indicates another exciting bull season before the end of the year 2021.
That's right, the decline that occurred in bitcoin at that time slowly recovered by itself, this had an impact on bitcoin to continue to be pumped gradually, and it is likely that bitcoin will continue to attract strongholds before the end of the year, until it reaches the price expected by most large investors, if this pattern continues, it is certain that bitcoin will be at a high price at the end of this year, so that everyone will see the start of the year with joy.
We need to see a new ATH in order for bitcoin to pump again, it's very stable now, and it doesn't signal that anything big could happen, still depends on the news in the crypto world, if we have some positive news to hype people, then most likely we will witness a huge pump again and those who buy during the slight correction might again enjoy a short term profit.
2805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 13, 2021, 07:41:36 PM
Spurs are probably in a rebuilding process and I think coach Pop will also retire soon as he is the oldest active coach in the NBA now if I'm not mistaken.

he is now 72 years, old enough to enjoy his retirement as he already achieved a lot being a coach of the Spurs for a very long time, for sure the NBA will recognize him as a hall of famer.

The Spurs is one of my favorite teams in the NBA but they have been struggling in the past seasons, so they really need a new all-star player to lead the team as DeRozan failed to do his job with the Spurs.
They really do not need a superstar to be a great team. The culture there is to keep the ball moving, if you are keeping the ball moving then you are not going to have a superstar with the ball for too long. Doesn't matter if you are Tim Duncan or Manu or Tony or Kawhi, if you have the ball and not scoring at that moment then you either dribble and pass, or you just pass, you need to not hold the ball too long.

Superstars like to keep the ball and score, no matter how awesome they are, Steph or Lebron wouldn't shine in this method for example, they are so good that you would still want them but change your system to fit them to be fair. Now that they have equally great many young prospects, they simply need to focus on building that "beautiful game" back again.

I think I would disagree with you, even Curry moves the ball well but he is just getting open most of the time because of the good play design by the team. For Lebron, then I might agree that he gets the ball most of the time, but he also adjust his game when he becomes a PG which directs the play in the floor, and if you notice he could make a double with points and assists, that's because he moves the ball well.
2806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata December 29 on: November 13, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
I'm not surprised that no one voted for Murata in the poll.
I don't want to underestimate GGG's opponent but I think this is a big mismatch, looks like an exhibition fight for me and I already know the winner.

I did some research about Murata and an article says that he is a superstar in Japan, even bigger than Inoue.

https://theathletic.com/news/gennadiy-golovkin-and-ryota-murata-to-fight-dec-28-in-tokyo/qARqldy4VAdk/

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How big is this fight in Japan?
Mike Coppinger, boxing insider: Massive; arguably the biggest fight in the country’s history. Murata is an Olympic gold medalist, an absolute rock star in Japan, even bigger than Naoya Inoue. He routinely pulls more than 30 million views for his bouts.

If we translate that 30 million views to dollars in his upcoming fight, then that would mean big money is waiting for this fight.

I thought it's not a popular fight, but it seems like the promoter knows how to find a good match of GGG, and though Murata is an Olympic gold medalist, I still think he is nowhere near to Golovkin's skills in boxing, but let's see this one.
2807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 13, 2021, 01:14:23 PM
Good luck on your pick @stadus... but it's not only the Bucks who have inconsistency, even the Celtics are also experiencing some big losses due to their inconsistency. I believe Giannis own the Celtics, so I think it's good to put some player props too for Giannis as he could get a double double here.

Yeah, You have a valid point, the Celtics are not a reliable team as well, the only good thing is that over the few games Tatum seemed to have found his rhythm back, and tonight's game might depend on good Tatum is. Bucks as well aren't the same team without Middleton, no doubt, but their win over the Knicks shows that they can find a way around it even in difficult situations.

I don't have a clear opinion on the fixture, but @stadus is usually unbiased with his picks, so I'll be going with him on the Celtics ML

Lucky that Celtics won in the OT, they give the Bucks a chance to beat them by allowing the game to go to OT, but this is NBA, surprises happened but it's still a good thing that Celtics were able to pull a win at home, it's their 2 win streak at home and I'll be happy to continue betting on them.

That was quite an intense game, the game was a close one going back and forth from the first quarter but Celtics took a decent lead going into the forth and I didn't think Bucks would have been able to force OT, but Allen made some great shot to make that happen, could have swung either, truly.

Line dropped drastically in favour of Celtics when it was confirmed that Giannis was going to suit up for the game, perhaps, It could have been a different result if he had played.

Congratulations to all the winners.

We are the real winners because we enjoy the game and at the same time win our bet.

Bucks showed good chemistry as everyone was scoring, but the home team is just the better team in that game especially in the playoffs.
I didn't expect that Dennis would be the top performer for the Celtics and that 38 points he dropped was very special and he seemed to be just playing effortlessly.


Therefore my pick is Heat +7.5, hopefully not a trap.
Wow this is fresh, I like to follow this bet, +7.5 is probably a gift, not a trap.
2808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 13, 2021, 12:14:20 PM

Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?
2809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 13, 2021, 11:30:19 AM
Good luck on your pick @stadus... but it's not only the Bucks who have inconsistency, even the Celtics are also experiencing some big losses due to their inconsistency. I believe Giannis own the Celtics, so I think it's good to put some player props too for Giannis as he could get a double double here.

Yeah, You have a valid point, the Celtics are not a reliable team as well, the only good thing is that over the few games Tatum seemed to have found his rhythm back, and tonight's game might depend on good Tatum is. Bucks as well aren't the same team without Middleton, no doubt, but their win over the Knicks shows that they can find a way around it even in difficult situations.

I don't have a clear opinion on the fixture, but @stadus is usually unbiased with his picks, so I'll be going with him on the Celtics ML

Lucky that Celtics won in the OT, they give the Bucks a chance to beat them by allowing the game to go to OT, but this is NBA, surprises happened but it's still a good thing that Celtics were able to pull a win at home, it's their 2 win streak at home and I'll be happy to continue betting on them.
2810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 12, 2021, 09:42:23 PM
San Antonio Spurs is not doing as badly as people imagined they would. I get that so far we haven't shown any promise, and with Derozan and LMA out of the way, young players are finally picking up the slack and showing some promise. I mean 4-7 is not a record you would like to see from your team for sure, but they are fighting for that last play-in tournament spot, that was 10th right? In any case they could really fight for that spot and that's a very good thing for them.

Considering most of the players are under age 27, that means that if they could just keep the core together, only like 6-7 players, then they could potentially reach to a playoff level next season if everyone is healthy (had injury problems since rebuild started) and then maybe even a title in 4-5 seasons if they keep playing together like this. I do not know if Pop could be around in 5 years though, that is a big problem.

Spurs are probably in a rebuilding process and I think coach Pop will also retire soon as he is the oldest active coach in the NBA now if I'm not mistaken.

he is now 72 years, old enough to enjoy his retirement as he already achieved a lot being a coach of the Spurs for a very long time, for sure the NBA will recognize him as a hall of famer.

The Spurs is one of my favorite teams in the NBA but they have been struggling in the past seasons, so they really need a new all-star player to lead the team as DeRozan failed to do his job with the Spurs.
2811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 12, 2021, 08:41:31 PM
^

This match is arranged to get some easy money quickly and without much hassle I will be very surprised if we see a knockout or knockdown. Most likely the fight will end in a draw or by decision of the judges with Mike Tyson winning, as he needs to ensure his old age.

Also, I think it will be more of a show for the family, not a bloody fight. But I think Mike Tyson knows that if he wants to earn money from more fights like this, it must be something really cool. If we don't see a hard KO, I think a few strong hits will definitely land on Logan's head.

If that's the script then we will most likely witness that one, but actually, fans would want to see a KO especially on Logan, lol...... sorry, maybe he has a lot of haters while Tyson still got a lot of fans despite he retired in professional boxing a long time ago. If we think there's no KO, then maybe let's put a bet on the "draw", or "Tyson to win by decision".
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: 60k price recovery achieved on: November 12, 2021, 08:10:39 PM
But I still positive that we are still very much in the bull run session, it's that that we need to stop this herd from running, refuel and give some breather. Because once again, if this bull continue to run up to December it will be hard to stop.
There's enough reason for a bull run this month of bitcoin continues to pump, but it failed and didn't happen despite achieving a new ATH again. So now, we are again struggling to reach $70,000 as the trend is going down, maybe it's a little correction only but who knows it could also be the start of the bear market.

Lots of possibilities, we cannot just close our eyes on the bear market although the bull market is what affected our state of mind now.

Anyway, good luck to those who buy now, maybe you'll get quick profits, maybe not.
2813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 12, 2021, 01:39:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkvvjKpvc9k

Gobert and Turner has this scuffle with multiple ejections. Just a couple of days ago we have the Jokic vs Morris incident and now this one.
Gobert don't usually fight even if he was beaten up below the rim but this one is different when Turner intentionally used his shoulder while running down.
Mitchell should also not overreact for those kind of fights that will cost them the entire game. There's still a lot of time there and its a waste for them to lose just because of that.
I watched the short video and it looks like Gobert is just frustrated because of the no foul call and he just pulled Turner's shorts and that is the start of it.
With that short scuffle between Gobert and Turner, correct me but Gobert didn't spoke at all while Turner is just throwing words at him.

I also saw a red-hot Mitchell which is overreacting like you said. Maybe its also because they are down 10 with 4 minutes left and possible no foul calls as well that cause them him to react like that. Anyway, they lost at their home. Well, fights are pretty normal already in NBA.

Turner did not hit the arm or the hand of Gobert in the video, but the commentator said maybe there's a little push in the back that's why Gobert gets frustrated and pulls the shorts of Turner. I think this is also brought about the frustration that they didn't expect to lose against the Pacers whom they think they can easily beat.

Things like his happen in NBA, it's normal but the official have to carefully evaluate what happen and sanction players that needed to be punish.
2814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Success for crypto will be bitcoin losing its crown to a stablecoin? on: November 12, 2021, 01:11:09 PM
Bitcoin is successful because people are investing in it, so how can people choose a stablecoin over bitcoin when they can't invest in a stablecoin.

The difference is huge, bitcoin = decentralized, while stable coin = centralized.
In fact, in the early days of crypto stablecoin is not yet created so it will not change the reality that crypto should be lead by decentralized currencies not a stablecoin.
2815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 12, 2021, 11:31:46 AM
^^ I have them -2.5 though, it's the opposite beat but the result is the same.

It was a tight battle, Clippers took a good lead but the Miami Heat is not going away without a fight. 4 clutch FT though by Reggie Jackson seal the win for the Clippers. I thought though that there was a foul in the last play, but lucky for you the referee didn't make a call. So congrats as well.

That was a nice game, I didn't expect that the Clippers will easily bounce back after they were trailing by 15 points in the first quarter. If anyone takes the live betting after the first half and took the Clippers ML, I'm sure the odds would be more than double so it could give a huge win.

That was a nice game even without Butler, Heat were able to give their best to compete with the Clippers on the road.

Congrats to the winners, I saw some of you on the Clippers -2.5 (early line) and maybe some took +4 heat when the line moved.
2816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 12, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
Its been a year without having a match with the PBA is there any updates regarding them? Still, they handle some of the events?. Also with the teams and rooster I don't have any updates on them mostly the NBA are the only one getting active than the PBA recently. The last I saw is when the Genebra makes a good shot of championship after i didn't get any updates on it.
Wait, aren't you following the PBA? It's not a year, it's just a month after the All Filipino Cup was over and the TNT was the champion.

The last game was October 29 where the TNT won the championship and they ended the series in 4-1.
https://www.pba.ph/recap

2817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Reymart Gaballo (WBC bantamweight) on: November 11, 2021, 11:07:08 PM
~snip~
Gaballo could introduce himself to the world if he wins in this match.
^ The chances that he could be a win is just a little and it is probably the odds are on the Donaire side.
I have felt that Gaballo will not able to win this fight since I know Donaire has been more experienced than Gaballo. However, I am baseless here when it comes to technical analysis because if luck is on Gaballo he could be able to introduce his name to the public.
Nevertheless, as I say, I don't want to guess and baseless point, let us see the fight if who will be gonna win.
His chance might be slim against Donaire, but he has to give his 100% in this fight. He respected Donaire and call him his idol. But when the bell rings, it's just the two of them and for sure he will fight to the 'death' because everything is on the line here. Because he knows if he win, then more fights for him in the future, means more money. And that's what most Filipinos are targeting, Manny Pacquiao did open the doors for them and many are trying to follow his footsteps, specially fame and glory and money.
But I hope they'll not follow Manny on being a politician as he was not doing well in that department especially now that he is aiming to be a president.

Focus on boxing and continue bringing glory to the country, these two fighters, whoever wins will surely bring honor to their next fight. It could be the biggest fight of Gaballo but for Donaire, it's not as he used to fight champions before, and honestly, I don't see anything special on Gaballo aside from his hard work in the ring.
2818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: November 11, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
We can make a simple analysis to determine who will win.

Casimero beat Tete and Tete beat Butler, I think that's enough to tell on who would win the fight, it's just a matter of how impressive Casimero would win here so people will forget his boring fight against Rigo. And nice to know he is conditioned, and as the training will continue, hopefully, he will be fully conditioned so we will see another impressive win by him, at least that's what the fans are expecting.
^ I don't think that analysis would be enough to draw a better conclusion, there could be a chance that Butler will win and I think even Casimero is not fully confident with his opponent. But on this match which is ordered by WBO, probably they saw that these two fighters and this match are really interesting, I don't want to see fighters having an excuse at the end seems like in a few fights that have been canceled because of those excuses. For sure this is a good fight and it could fan get surprised with the result.
No excuses, that's what real warriors do, and of course, there's no assurance on who will win as both fighters will definitely train hard to win in this fight. As for Casimero, we can expect he will continue his training, if we are following his youtube channel, we would know the development of his camp and always,  just get used to Casimero's trash-talking but thus far, we haven't heard that yet against his opponent.

I think this is his official youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g
2819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 11, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
I think it's okay if Butler will just sit in this game, it's not good to stress his injury since it's a back to back game for them. That would also help to see how the team would perform without him and I'm pretty sure the addition of Lowry to the team would be a big help, and Tyler Herro's good season will be about to be tested here without their main man.
2820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Future bitcoin price is high and low on: November 11, 2021, 12:57:59 PM
Because the bitcoin community continues to increase, the demand for bitcoin will continue to be high,
could it be the demand for bitcoin continues to increase that's why the bitcoin community keeps growing as well.

the stock of bitcoin remains and for mining it is increasingly difficult due to many factors, this makes the price of bitcoin more expensive and I'm sure one day the price of 1 btc can reach $ 1 million and price fluctuations will not high as it is now, maybe the bitcoin price will go up or down not more than 0.1%.
The main reason are the institutional investments, they drive adoption to the market and their decision to invest in bitcoin also signals the ordinary investors to put their money on bitcoin as they trust these institutions who trust their money on the future of bitcoin.
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