[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Maslate]

Maybe what he meant is that for a preparation for a bigger fight like Nonito or Inoue in the future.

But for sure Casimero are not going to take the fight against Butler lightly, he wanted to show the world has powerful fighter he is. That's why we are expecting a knock out coming from him because he is really destroying everyone leading up to the belt he won against Tete and then defended it already.

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He will not became a champion if he will take his opponent as an easy one and maybe we can see him being nasty on social media but in reality for sure he will do all things that needed so that he will be more prepared on this fight since remember there are so many at stake for him on this fight and its a big shame for him to be lost on the fight and for sure he will lose the chances to fight either Inoue or Donaire if he will think about those things and play cool on this match.

Exactly, Casimero does not have an easy journey to reach where he is now, he has to challenge fighters in their country just to beat them and he was so successful in doing that, now it's over, he has big fights mostly in the US and that's paying off for him. Of course, this fight could be easy in paper but we never know what would happen until we watch the fight, Casimero is a fighter that always wants to impress the fans, so if Butler would do the same, then most probably we will see a very entertaining match.

[passwordnow]

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He's going to take it seriously despite the pot isn't that much for him. It's part of his career and it's still another record for him. That's why if he plays this easy and unprepared, there might be no fight for any of the two next. He just has to let this pass, win this match against Butler then it's all up to him, his promoter, and as well as the opponent that they'll pick for him. We have an idea that he's more liking to have a match against Inoue.

[Silberman]

Basically this, as much as I dislike promoters due to the fact they delay and some times are the main obstacles for the fights we want to see, they know their business way better than we do, if Arum needs a bigger share of the purse for him and his fighters but he can make the fight bigger with his promotion then that 30% for Casimero can become higher than the 50% as he uses his influence to hype the fight, and if the purse is too small for him then he will reduce his investment in the fight in order to become profitable which will reduce the profits for both fighters.

Only Casimero's camp could answer that, if the fight will be realized then that means they agreed with the sharing, the deal is close and they will start training. 30% might be small if we look at the percentage only without analyzing its amount, so what if the fight will generate a lot of money and 30% would result to a serious money, I think Casimero's camp would still be happy with what, and will be happier once he wins the fight.

Not all boxers or management would  really be aiming for the money because some would come after with the  Glory and fame that they could possibly get if they would really continue to have dominating fights and winning streaks.

Since they do on what comes next when they do able to established out themselves on this particular state.30% share is already considerable and its true
that it will vary on the amount.

Boxing turns out to be a business but it isn't really talking about share percentages and more.

I think we all understand that many boxers are there for the glory and not necessarily for the money or at least they can reach a stage on their career in which that is not the priority anymore and they want the glory instead, this is what happened with Manny, he had all the money in the world and still kept fighting because it is something that he loved to do, however this is why boxers have promoters, so other people do not take advantage of them and refuse to pay them what they are worth.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He's going to take it seriously despite the pot isn't that much for him. It's part of his career and it's still another record for him. That's why if he plays this easy and unprepared, there might be no fight for any of the two next. He just has to let this pass, win this match against Butler then it's all up to him, his promoter, and as well as the opponent that they'll pick for him. We have an idea that he's more liking to have a match against Inoue.

There's no question that the pot money is very small. But that's been over now, Casimero knows that it is  mandated in the law of the WBO. So he can't complain about that.

What's important is that he has a chance to share his boxing skills again, beat his mandatory here in Butler, and then chase Inoue or Donaire next for him. He should move and understand that pot money is just one part of the equation for a bigger purse next fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Who has the information about their split before their supposed fight was cancelled? As we all know, they have a scheduled fight last year, April 26, 2020, but due to the effect of the pandemic, that was permanently cancelled.

I did some research regarding your question but I didn't find the exact answer, but instead this article.

John Riel Casimero might need to take reduced purse to fight Naoya Inoue, says Bob Arum

Can you believe that? Arum still wants to reduce the purse of Casimero just to make the fight happen, I think they like to rob Casimero and disrespect his status being a champion. I'm sure the purse was not 50/50 on the cancelled fight and after it was cancelled, Bob talks about reducing Casimero's purse, so I'm guessing maybe it will be 70/30 which I don't think is fair.

I don't think that was unfair.

If no Arum, the event won't become big. Arum's influence can boost ticket sales since he's the only promoter that capable of making the fight happen in a big event place. As I checked some details, the cancelled Inoue vs Casimero fight is supposed to happen on Mandalay Bay. Arum also has the power to choose a big opponent for Casimero. Arum is the key to why Pacquiao also got a big fight during his prime.

We should accept the fact that Inoue is much more valuable compared to Casimero. The former already destroys every contender that wants to take his belt so it's understandable that he will get the most bid.

Maybe it was unfair to us but once Casimero finally defeated Inoue, he's the one now who will have the most bid on his future matches. Pacquiao also experienced that before and just gained a big break after beating Marco Antonio Barrera.

The word "fair" is only based on our personal judgement, but Bob Arum being the promoter knows how to run his business and he is investing his money for the fight, if the fight is unsuccessful, he will bear big losses so it's just right that he will make money. However, if Casimero's camp finds the offer unfair, then there's nothing we can do because they won't be able to sign the papers necessary to make it happen, it's a conflict for money which is the main hindrance of this fight not happening.

I'm also with the side that Arum can't be called unfair. Arum is a big promoter and he is also spending money on the fight. If let's say Inoue will get a 70/30, that was fine because after all, Casimero is the challenger and if he won, he will be on Rank 1.

We are most PH people here that's why others called it unfair but if Casimero will fight Inoue, the latter will be the reason why the fight will be hyped and not because of Casimero. Just take it Casimero's big break once he defeats Inoue. But he needs to win first with Butler.

For me the main requirement before fighting with Inoue will be to beat Butler, I am not saying that Butler is easy to win, but that Casimero has to do everything possible so that this fight is the winner, in this case it may be their managers They are looking for a previous fight to warm up emotions, and also to capitalize on some money, which is a main reason, but Casimero must go over Butler so that this same year the be a fight is avenged, one of which the fans want see how it is and it is against Inoue. I do want him to know about the fight against Inoue, because they are two boxers who represent a lot of technique and awaken emotions, the adrenaline is on another level when seeing these two in the ring.

[carlisle1]

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He's going to take it seriously despite the pot isn't that much for him. It's part of his career and it's still another record for him. That's why if he plays this easy and unprepared, there might be no fight for any of the two next. He just has to let this pass, win this match against Butler then it's all up to him, his promoter, and as well as the opponent that they'll pick for him. We have an idea that he's more liking to have a match against Inoue.

There's no question that the pot money is very small. But that's been over now, Casimero knows that it is  mandated in the law of the WBO. So he can't complain about that.

What's important is that he has a chance to share his boxing skills again, beat his mandatory here in Butler, and then chase Inoue or Donaire next for him. He should move and understand that pot money is just one part of the equation for a bigger purse next fight.

What's waiting for him after winning this mandatory fight is far bigger for his career,

We all know that money is also important, but since it's mandated, he doesn't have any option but to take this challenge and be the best as he can,

afterwards, the next upcoming fights, once he takes this and win will give him another breakout for his career.

Not with the belt alone, but the money that will in stake. Casimero's win will entitle him to go with either Inoue or Donaire, a kind of money fight
plus a good addition to his title if he manages to win.

[bisdak40]

So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .

Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.

Yup, Dubai is the place.

Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk  . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO.

Warm up fight for Butler? I dont think so and he shouldnt really be that confident on fighting with Casimero.Not to say about their capabilities but i could say that Casimero
is indeed capable on beating him so he shouldnt really make those big talks before the fight but its right that trashtalks is really part of the business for them to sell
out the fight and able to get more revenue but this is much better than compared into those exhibition fights that we do have right now.
Its worth of spending some bucks rather than into those circus dance.

It's the other way around, sort of warm-up fight for Casimero in preparation for bigger fights like a match with Inoue in the near future. Don't get me wrong, Butler may be tough but Casimero is just too strong for him, IMO. Casimero has been to many fights in foreign lands and this is what makes him tough and Dubai could be like a home court for him too.

As of this writing, Casimero says he's already 80 percent condition, with 3 weeks to go i think that's great news for his fans to hear.

[Questat]

So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .

Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.

Yup, Dubai is the place.

Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk  . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO.

Warm up fight for Butler? I dont think so and he shouldnt really be that confident on fighting with Casimero.Not to say about their capabilities but i could say that Casimero
is indeed capable on beating him so he shouldnt really make those big talks before the fight but its right that trashtalks is really part of the business for them to sell
out the fight and able to get more revenue but this is much better than compared into those exhibition fights that we do have right now.
Its worth of spending some bucks rather than into those circus dance.

It's the other way around, sort of warm-up fight for Casimero in preparation for bigger fights like a match with Inoue in the near future. Don't get me wrong, Butler may be tough but Casimero is just too strong for him, IMO. Casimero has been to many fights in foreign lands and this is what makes him tough and Dubai could be like a home court for him too.

As of this writing, Casimero says he's already 80 percent condition, with 3 weeks to i think that great news for his fans to hear.

We can make a simple analysis to determine who will win.

Casimero beat Tete and Tete beat Butler, I think that's enough to tell on who would win the fight, it's just a matter of how impressive Casimero would win here so people will forget his boring fight against Rigo. And nice to know he is conditioned, and as the training will continue, hopefully, he will be fully conditioned so we will see another impressive win by him, at least that's what the fans are expecting.

[DoublerHunter]

We can make a simple analysis to determine who will win.

Casimero beat Tete and Tete beat Butler, I think that's enough to tell on who would win the fight, it's just a matter of how impressive Casimero would win here so people will forget his boring fight against Rigo. And nice to know he is conditioned, and as the training will continue, hopefully, he will be fully conditioned so we will see another impressive win by him, at least that's what the fans are expecting.

^ I don't think that analysis would be enough to draw a better conclusion, there could be a chance that Butler will win and I think even Casimero is not fully confident with his opponent. But on this match which is ordered by WBO, probably they saw that these two fighters and this match are really interesting, I don't want to see fighters having an excuse at the end seems like in a few fights that have been canceled because of those excuses. For sure this is a good fight and it could fan get surprised with the result.

[Sanitough]

We can make a simple analysis to determine who will win.

Casimero beat Tete and Tete beat Butler, I think that's enough to tell on who would win the fight, it's just a matter of how impressive Casimero would win here so people will forget his boring fight against Rigo. And nice to know he is conditioned, and as the training will continue, hopefully, he will be fully conditioned so we will see another impressive win by him, at least that's what the fans are expecting.

^ I don't think that analysis would be enough to draw a better conclusion, there could be a chance that Butler will win and I think even Casimero is not fully confident with his opponent. But on this match which is ordered by WBO, probably they saw that these two fighters and this match are really interesting, I don't want to see fighters having an excuse at the end seems like in a few fights that have been canceled because of those excuses. For sure this is a good fight and it could fan get surprised with the result.

No excuses, that's what real warriors do, and of course, there's no assurance on who will win as both fighters will definitely train hard to win in this fight. As for Casimero, we can expect he will continue his training, if we are following his youtube channel, we would know the development of his camp and always,  just get used to Casimero's trash-talking but thus far, we haven't heard that yet against his opponent.

I think this is his official youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRtMwz3rGvWEWvtQlbaX-0g

[TravelMug]

We can make a simple analysis to determine who will win.

Casimero beat Tete and Tete beat Butler, I think that's enough to tell on who would win the fight, it's just a matter of how impressive Casimero would win here so people will forget his boring fight against Rigo. And nice to know he is conditioned, and as the training will continue, hopefully, he will be fully conditioned so we will see another impressive win by him, at least that's what the fans are expecting.

^ I don't think that analysis would be enough to draw a better conclusion, there could be a chance that Butler will win and I think even Casimero is not fully confident with his opponent. But on this match which is ordered by WBO, probably they saw that these two fighters and this match are really interesting, I don't want to see fighters having an excuse at the end seems like in a few fights that have been canceled because of those excuses. For sure this is a good fight and it could fan get surprised with the result.

No, we can't conclude it that way though, and I agree that we can't have a definite conclusion based on that. So we can't discount that even if Butler has a slim chance to upset Casimero, that chances is still there. And Butler is the mandatory for no reasons, he has earn his spot in the WBO ranking, and this is his chance to become a champion so definitely he will trained 100% and give everything in this fight.

[Reatim]

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He's going to take it seriously despite the pot isn't that much for him. It's part of his career and it's still another record for him. That's why if he plays this easy and unprepared, there might be no fight for any of the two next. He just has to let this pass, win this match against Butler then it's all up to him, his promoter, and as well as the opponent that they'll pick for him. We have an idea that he's more liking to have a match against Inoue.

and because he wanted to face more higher fighter that is why he will do everything for this fight to win.
aiming for Casimero this time  for him to face either Nonito Donaire or Japan boxer Enoue .
Waiting for the odds as i wanted to Bet my entire gambling funds for this one ,.

[Natalim]

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He's going to take it seriously despite the pot isn't that much for him. It's part of his career and it's still another record for him. That's why if he plays this easy and unprepared, there might be no fight for any of the two next. He just has to let this pass, win this match against Butler then it's all up to him, his promoter, and as well as the opponent that they'll pick for him. We have an idea that he's more liking to have a match against Inoue.

and because he wanted to face more higher fighter that is why he will do everything for this fight to win.
aiming for Casimero this time  for him to face either Nonito Donaire or Japan boxer Enoue .

Casimero could potentially face either Donaire or Inoue if he wins against his challenger, it's a task he cannot say no and he cannot lose if he wants his dream to be realized.

Waiting for the odds as i wanted to Bet my entire gambling funds for this one ,.

It's too early to expect for the odds, this isn't a huge fight that everyone might interest in, so most likely the odds will be up a day or a week before the actual fight.

[Yamifoud]

Casimero could potentially face either Donaire or Inoue if he wins against his challenger, it's a task he cannot say no and he cannot lose if he wants his dream to be realized.

I think he will likely face Inoue as his promoter would not allow that to happen.

This is probably the scenario.

If both Donaire and Casimero will win against on their respective challengers, then one of the could fight Inoue, if one of them lose, at least there's still one left that could fight Inoue, in that way, both fights would give good money to their promoters since Inoue is popular and he will attract the fans to watch the fight.

[bisdak40]

Casimero could potentially face either Donaire or Inoue if he wins against his challenger, it's a task he cannot say no and he cannot lose if he wants his dream to be realized.

I think he will likely face Inoue as his promoter would not allow that to happen.

This is probably the scenario.

If both Donaire and Casimero will win against on their respective challengers, then one of the could fight Inoue, if one of them lose, at least there's still one left that could fight Inoue, in that way, both fights would give good money to their promoters since Inoue is popular and he will attract the fans to watch the fight.

Both Donaire and Casimero are now under Probellum and they have become friends already as the Donaire's were the ones helping Casimero to land in Probellum so I think the probability of Casimero vs Donaire is slim, it would be Inoue fighting whom they think will give Top Rank more money.

Butler had a weak chin, this would be Casimero's target come fight night.

Watch below the KO highlight of Tete on Butler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKO_hy91rx8

[Botnake]

Casimero could potentially face either Donaire or Inoue if he wins against his challenger, it's a task he cannot say no and he cannot lose if he wants his dream to be realized.

I think he will likely face Inoue as his promoter would not allow that to happen.

This is probably the scenario.

If both Donaire and Casimero will win against on their respective challengers, then one of the could fight Inoue, if one of them lose, at least there's still one left that could fight Inoue, in that way, both fights would give good money to their promoters since Inoue is popular and he will attract the fans to watch the fight.

Both Donaire and Casimero are now under Probellum and they have become friends already as the Donaire's were the ones helping Casimero to land in Probellum so I think the probability of Casimero vs Donaire is slim, it would be Inoue fighting whom they think will give Top Rank more money.

Butler had a weak chin, this would be Casimero's target come fight night.

Watch below the KO highlight of Tete on Butler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKO_hy91rx8

Agree with that, promoters will take care of their fighters so they will not let them fight and lose a possible profit in the future.

Probellum has two champions that they could match against Inoue and in the previous posts, I read that the CEO of Probellum is a good friend of Bob Arum, CEO of Top rank, so maybe they can easily arrange a fight in the future.

[Kemarit]

Casimero could potentially face either Donaire or Inoue if he wins against his challenger, it's a task he cannot say no and he cannot lose if he wants his dream to be realized.

I think he will likely face Inoue as his promoter would not allow that to happen.

This is probably the scenario.

If both Donaire and Casimero will win against on their respective challengers, then one of the could fight Inoue, if one of them lose, at least there's still one left that could fight Inoue, in that way, both fights would give good money to their promoters since Inoue is popular and he will attract the fans to watch the fight.

Both Donaire and Casimero are now under Probellum and they have become friends already as the Donaire's were the ones helping Casimero to land in Probellum so I think the probability of Casimero vs Donaire is slim, it would be Inoue fighting whom they think will give Top Rank more money.

Butler had a weak chin, this would be Casimero's target come fight night.

Watch below the KO highlight of Tete on Butler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKO_hy91rx8

Well if Butler has a weak chin then it will be over for him once Casimero touches that chin.

And we all know that Casimero has power in both hands, so I don't know how long can Butler avoid that. Unless me might run like Rigo and it will be a total disappointment for the fans.

Probably the big target here is Inoue, regardless as to who get it first, Donaire or Casimero.

Thanks for the link though.

[molsewid]

I think he will likely face Inoue as his promoter would not allow that to happen.

This is probably the scenario.

If both Donaire and Casimero will win against on their respective challengers, then one of the could fight Inoue, if one of them lose, at least there's still one left that could fight Inoue, in that way, both fights would give good money to their promoters since Inoue is popular and he will attract the fans to watch the fight.

If this is the case then it will for surely less likely to happen that Donaire vs. Casimero rematch will going to happen which in some boxing fans that are looking forward for this rematch will be a disappointment however, I guess either which one of them will going to fight Inoue will probably going to give an exciting fight that every boxing fans would watch for. The big fight for two Filipino boxers are fast approaching and knowing that it will going to happen in the same ring, same date and night but with different time I am curious which fight will be the main event though?

[Cling18]

Maybe what he meant is that for a preparation for a bigger fight like Nonito or Inoue in the future.

But for sure Casimero are not going to take the fight against Butler lightly, he wanted to show the world has powerful fighter he is. That's why we are expecting a knock out coming from him because he is really destroying everyone leading up to the belt he won against Tete and then defended it already.

Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.

He will not became a champion if he will take his opponent as an easy one and maybe we can see him being nasty on social media but in reality for sure he will do all things that needed so that he will be more prepared on this fight since remember there are so many at stake for him on this fight and its a big shame for him to be lost on the fight and for sure he will lose the chances to fight either Inoue or Donaire if he will think about those things and play cool on this match.

Exactly, Casimero does not have an easy journey to reach where he is now, he has to challenge fighters in their country just to beat them and he was so successful in doing that, now it's over, he has big fights mostly in the US and that's paying off for him. Of course, this fight could be easy in paper but we never know what would happen until we watch the fight, Casimero is a fighter that always wants to impress the fans, so if Butler would do the same, then most probably we will see a very entertaining match.

All of them need to go through a lot and it's never an easy process. They all have to beat lots of boxers for them to reach a new level and gain a new title. It's honestly a long journey for them and each boxer that they beat has a huge advantage for them to create a good name. Casimero has to grab this chance for him to add more to his record.

[Pamadar]

All of them need to go through a lot and it's never an easy process. They all have to beat lots of boxers for them to reach a new level and gain a new title. It's honestly a long journey for them and each boxer that they beat has a huge advantage for them to create a good name. Casimero has to grab this chance for him to add more to his record.

That's the journey that needed to take before you make this sport as your source of living.

Fighting and keeps on winning to raise your name high. Casimero's achievements still far from Pacquiao and Donaire but by keep doing his best to beat every challengers that he may face, that kind of fame is not far for him.

Keep adding tremendous wins and make yourself always willing and ready for every fight that your promoter is giving you.

After that, who knows how high this trash talker will achieve, all begins with a simple dream and now he already
getting the fruits of his hard works.