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2821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 02:15:13 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? Roll Eyes
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

What we're trying to explain to you but you refuse to understand is that USA plus Canada can afford to trade with Europe because they're of similar power... But if you take UK alone, how do you think it will do trying to negotiate with monsters like EU, NAFTA or ASEAN?

It will smile, accept the ridiculous demands because it needs 17 billion of pounds of import and then cry in a corner.
2822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 3.1m+ GB resident demand for second EU referendum. on: June 26, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
Like a petition could change anything...

TO change anything, it would need to be signed by at least half of the British population, otherwise it doesn mean anything.
2823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:54:35 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? Roll Eyes
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...
2824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2.8m+ GB resident demand for second EU referendum. on: June 26, 2016, 01:07:22 PM
All these people, if you turn them upside down, the half GDP of EU will pop up from their pockets.

I suppose you're trying to say I'm leaving on welfare is that it?
2825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:05:59 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.
2826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: June 26, 2016, 01:02:53 PM

Does you even understand that gun control doesn't mean guns will be forbidden?  That maybe it just means for forbiding shotguns for example (which are a well known self defense weapons of course xD)


No I does not.




Avoiding an argument by mocking a grammar mistake. You seem like someone incredibly bright. Sorry I sometimes make a mistake in a none native language...

The arrogance of some people ><
2827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 12:54:55 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

While I think it took many Leave supporters by surprise I don't think it's going to be as such a disaster as people like you claim, we have done trade without the likes of the EU for thousands of years and we will do so again, christ, maybe I need to go to number 10 myself and help them out, I can't stand incompetency.

Exactly the problem with old people. And you're an old people, at least in your head xD
You don't understand something incredibly simple, something that is the basis of evolution, humanity and the world itself: YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS!

That's an incredible mistake of the "good old days"... You just can't "do it like we did for centuries" it doesn't work Cry

Anyway, I hope it won't be a complete disaster, not for you because you voted out so you've got to assume your responsability, but for the millions of people who chose to go forwards and are kept backwards by nostalgics nationalists.
2828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

The only age group which favored Bremain were those who aged between 18 and 24 (44% margin). All other age groups favored Brexit, including the 25 to 30 years age group (4% margin in favor of Brexit). So according to you, everyone who is older than 24 is an old fart? And what about the 28% among the 18-24 group which voted for Brexit? Perhaps they are old farts too.

Are you really trying to deceive people or do you not know how to read or google something?

Please, anyone believing Bryant.coleman... Well first look at his history of posts to understand his notion of "objectivity" and "proof". Then go on google and write "Brexit vote by age" and read any of the link to see that what he says is completely false.
2829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: June 26, 2016, 12:21:40 PM

Does you even understand that gun control doesn't mean guns will be forbidden?  That maybe it just means for forbiding shotguns for example (which are a well known self defense weapons of course xD)
2830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Erdoğan: No Muslim family should engage in birth control on: June 26, 2016, 12:19:50 PM
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/no-muslim-family-engage-birth-control-erdogan/

Quote
“And I say it clearly that we will increase our posterity and reproduce generations. Population planning or birth control; no Muslim family can engage in such a mentality. We will follow the road that my God and dear Prophet [Muhammad] say,” Erdogan said.

I don't have any issues with the Turks breeding like rats. But they should be able to feed their own people, rather than dumping the excess population to the European Union.

The only sad thing with Erdogan is that Turkey is officially a laïc country...
We're so few laïc countries in the world, it's sad to see one of us falling into archaic religious fanatism Cry
2831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 12:17:16 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

Ahahah xD
Good point here! If we could link age to research we would have a good idea of who from leaver or remainer voted like zombies.
2832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EU snakes to support Irish and Scottish schemes, shall the US defend UK? on: June 26, 2016, 12:09:02 PM
Sharks frenzy seems to be a term appropriate that's why I think the arbitration shall call for a little break for everyone to calm and reassess their situation. Pax Americana applied. I know that the lead from behind strategy is still the preferred choice of the lecturer in chief but I fear the complete destruction of the UK if the outsiders aren't neutralized. Because I am sure the one world gov fanatics have already sent their checks with the goal of dismantling the UK as fast as possible and reintegrate it piece by piece to their beloved European Union.

Moglie time will not change who made it there. And are you sure? Because I would be very happy to see a recent picture of it.

It's a well known fact that the flag is now white because of cosmic rays yeah Wink

But don't worry, everyone will have the time to calm down even without USA intervention. Brexit will take time so everyone will have the time to think and take a calm rational decision ; )
2833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 12:07:14 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

The biggest difficulty is that the UK is still in the EU and can't yet do anything... Breaking the shackles is the easiest part learning to be a free man is another story completely.

I'm still waiting to see anything the UK wants to do the the EU forbids as you're claiming. But the vote is made so we'll soon see what your "freedom" will bring, I just don't see how it could compensate your isolation.
2834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Spain calls for co-sovereignty on Gibraltar on: June 26, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
Are british people democrats?
A 96% majority in Gibraltar to remain in the EU isn't something which can be ignored. I can't think of a similar majority in any other election or referendum. Spain wants to make it like Andorra, but I guess Gibraltar should become independent.

Thank you for being the first intelligent comment here. Of course a middle arrangement like Gibraltar becoming independant seems like a much better solution than the nuclear war the old-thattcher-lover is asking for.
2835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Spain calls for co-sovereignty on Gibraltar on: June 26, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
No difference to the British? Damn I thought British had better military advisor than that xD

The point being made, which is obviously too much for your brain to handle, is that it doesn't matter whether you fight one person or a hundred, if what you are fighting for is what is right. There is never going to be a fight so all this talk is meaningless.

The point being made which you all seem to ignore is that I'm not the one suggesting the use of nukes and the start of a war but merely explaining such conflict wouldn't be an easy fight for UK and that UK would certainly lose ><
2836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EU snakes to support Irish and Scottish schemes, shall the US defend UK? on: June 26, 2016, 12:00:06 PM
Ahahahah xD

Ok let us go straight to the point, this is a no go line.
US can interfere militarily in EU business, simply because both powers got the nuclear power. If US wants to interfere on a military scale, NOTHING can garuantee us it won't go to nuclear part.
Of course US army is much larger, and so what? It doesn't matter, you can get the army as big as you want, France i.e. EU has 7 tactical submarines with 150 nukes inside. Interfering would mean the USA are ready to risk a nuclear conflict (not saying it will be the case but they're taking the risk if they do).

Really think UK deserves such risk? USA didn't interfere in WWII until they were directly threaten (yeah they're not the good savior, they just waited to be attacked before they move a finger), why would they take such a risk now?

The flag waves at you every time you look at the moon...



rememeber it's an illustration of the power of Ideas. What is the Frnch dream? What is the European dream? What is the American Dream?

Except the flag is white right now ^.^
2837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

Ahahah ^^

Funny how you get angry for nothing. Especially as this post is not about denying the result, just about showing how incredible it is to see that Britains seem to wonder what does Brexit mean AFTER voting it.
2838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EU snakes to support Irish and Scottish schemes, shall the US defend UK? on: June 26, 2016, 11:05:13 AM
Ahahahah xD

Ok let us go straight to the point, this is a no go line.
US can interfere militarily in EU business, simply because both powers got the nuclear power. If US wants to interfere on a military scale, NOTHING can garuantee us it won't go to nuclear part.
Of course US army is much larger, and so what? It doesn't matter, you can get the army as big as you want, France i.e. EU has 7 tactical submarines with 150 nukes inside. Interfering would mean the USA are ready to risk a nuclear conflict (not saying it will be the case but they're taking the risk if they do).

Really think UK deserves such risk? USA didn't interfere in WWII until they were directly threaten (yeah they're not the good savior, they just waited to be attacked before they move a finger), why would they take such a risk now?
2839  Other / Politics & Society / Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 10:59:10 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.

2840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Spain calls for co-sovereignty on Gibraltar on: June 26, 2016, 10:50:00 AM

Can't anyone understand that any agression towards Spain wouldn't result in a Spain - UK conflict but in a EU - UK conflict. And EU has nuclear power and doesn't need USA agreements to use it.


You are always implying that the UK would be the aggressor here when Spain is trying to steal land. Gibraltor has been under British rule for a long time and have actively warned off Spanish attempts to interfere. The Spanish are in no position to talk - they refuse to cede territory back to Morocco which defies their "territorial integrity" angle that they are so fond of using. Spain vs UK, EU vs UK.. makes no difference to the British but it's never going to happen. If you really think France is going to start dropping nuclear bombs on the UK, you are delusional.

No difference to the British? Damn I thought British had better military advisor than that xD

I never said France is going to drop nukes on UK. I just said UK couldn't drop nukes on Spain BECAUSE France would answer by using nuclear forces too. That's all I said, I'm not dumb enough to suggest nuclear war first.
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