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2821  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [875Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: December 12, 2013, 02:54:48 PM
Following up my earlier post about KNC...

Still not able to duplicate any issues on any devices I have ssh'd into.  Several folks have run their own tests with varying results which I'm looking into.



Hi

Just tried switching from Elgius to BTCGuild and HW errors went down from 12% to 2% and has been stable at 2% over the past 15 hours.

This only affects the faster running Nov Jupiter @ 650GH/s+

Gonna try slush's next as I'm not comfortable with the size of either BTCG or GHash.io
2822  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [875Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: December 12, 2013, 02:45:45 PM
I wish the Knc firmware came with cgminer and bfgminer.

I suspect bfgminer will not have the same issue with November Jupiters.

You can get bfgminer if you install Bertmod 0.4
2823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KnC Miners: Altcoins on: December 12, 2013, 02:34:36 PM
any recommendations of trusted pools?

multicoin.us
miningpool.co
2824  Other / Archival / Re: PAPA ASIC NEED FUNDING PLEASE PARTICIPATE on: December 12, 2013, 02:05:03 PM
I guess papamoi learned something from Ed Trice after all...

I just had a mental image of him burying his head in the sand.
2825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KnC Miners: Altcoins on: December 12, 2013, 01:59:02 PM
These are the other ones I'm looking at in addition to PPC:

eMark (DEM)
Bytecoin (BTE)
ASICcoin (ASC)
Unobtanium (UNO)
TEKcoin (TEK)
OpenSourcecoin (OSC)
Joulecoin (XJO)
Tigercoin (TGC)


Thank you so much! I was starting to sweat there! lol!

Well I have access to PPC, TRC, ZET and FRC

I just tested TRC and that works as well.

So I imagine if it works with one it works with others.
2826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KnC Miners: Altcoins on: December 12, 2013, 01:44:36 PM
Yes I just tested switching to PPC and it worked, any other coins you want me to test?
2827  Other / Archival / Re: PAPA ASIC NEED FUNDING PLEASE PARTICIPATE on: December 12, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
thank you bitcointalk webmaster for the ignore button



Sorry.. but LOL
2828  Other / Archival / Re: PAPA ASIC NEED FUNDING PLEASE PARTICIPATE on: December 12, 2013, 01:14:12 PM

You're mining on 50BTC.com???
FAKE

That top line is obviously photoshopped, its a different colour to the rest of the text in the console and crisper as well
2829  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany on: December 12, 2013, 01:08:20 PM
well if it's a scam site it's pretty well made, + for effort!

I wish you could ignore threads so they don't show up in the list
2830  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: December 12, 2013, 01:07:34 PM


That's, exactly as i predicted, less than 1/5th of our initial investment. Then comes the MPP. I'm optimist today and i assume that we are mining with it the first day of March. The total return of the MPP (fully triggered) would be around 9 BTC.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/4156b31fef

9 + 8 = 17 BTC out of the 40/50 we spent.

As you can see, their bs costed us a lot. But don't worry, we will pay them back.
I seriously question why you didn't know this almost 3 or 4 months ago.

A simple spreadsheet and some math would have given you a pretty good idea of your odds. The odds were never in your favor to begin with. (At least not BTC wise)

Alot of the companies have been failing to lower their prices in line with a profitable scenario's for their miners. Buying hardware with a huge burden of cost is....not very smart.

I think the answer will be "if it had delivered in October" at that time you could mine 1 BTC per day with 500GH
2831  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining hosting @ $0.043 per KwH, 100% green energy on: December 12, 2013, 12:48:23 PM
List of rack units of potentially interested miners:

- 6x 4U CT anonymous via PM
- 2x 4U CT anonymous via PM


Total: 8U

Actually its 8 x 4U = 32U leaving you 16U out of a 42U rack Smiley

You probably want some space in the rack between each miner, plus network switch. I'd say you can get away with one more 4U miner in the rack and then you wouldn't want to add any more.

So you almost have on Rack full, time to get started Cheesy

I wish you luck in your business, I've been looking at similar
2832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 12, 2013, 01:03:59 AM
Anyone know how to get cached copies/screen grabbed images of the KNC site from back in June/July/August/September. Also any modifications to their order TOS.

They have quite a few archived versions on the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kncminer.com .


The problem is the cached copies do not include the flash banner KNC used on their website. I'm specifically looking for the October 15th order banner and the September banner or such.

Try using the wayback machine to search for https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5390.png
2833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
I switched to ghash.io, and immediately my HW errors dropped below 1.5% on all machines and have stayed there. Bye bye eligius I suppose!
Anyone have a good starting point for the difficulty setting with ghash? I'm at 256 right now.

512 seems to be optimal for 550GH/s

There is a thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274023.0

In which ckolivas suggests

TL:DR
Set your diff to your worker's hashrate in GH / 1.4

555/1.4 = 396 Difficulty, but not sure if you have to round it up.
2834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 11:25:04 PM
Does anyone know where I can buy more thermal blocks of the same size as what is in the November Jupiter that cover the new VRM's?  Mine didn't come with any and it performs like an October Jup.

Has it been confirmed that those are actually termal blocks to cool the VRMs?
They look far too thick to be effective, and I have never seen any that thick before when looking to buy pads for GPUs and CPUs myself.
If they were 1mm pads on either side of a bar of aluminium or copper I could understand it, but at that thickness any soft/foam material is more likely to work as an insulator.

I have checked my November Jupiter and it does not have them.
Hashing happily at 657 GH/s presently, pulling 855 Watts from the wall through an EVGA 1000P2 PSU.

My guess, without further info, is that they are packing material used to either aid assembly or to protect the VRMs during assembly operations.
That would mean that somebody forgot to pull them out before shipping.  Roll Eyes

Good luck in your search.



I pulled one off, its definitately thermal pad material. I've also measured the temp of the vrm under the thermal pad and the same VRM's with the thermal pad removed and without the pad they are definitely hotter. They are also on every board in the same place in my Nov Jupiter. Maybe some machines needed them and some didn't?
2835  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: December 11, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
G1000 Powering 4x 280x and 2x 23cm fans with ease. GPUs @ 1080/1500. 2.95Mhs total.
The frame will be a closed case soon. Work in progress.




What 280x's are those?

Look like VTX3D
2836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Does anyone know where I can buy more thermal blocks of the same size as what is in the November Jupiter that cover the new VRM's?  Mine didn't come with any and it performs like an October Jup.

Been looking myself, they are about 1cm thick

Damn I'm going to have to open mine up and put it back. Shocked

Is your Jup performing the same with or without it?

Hard to tell, I think its worse without it, certainly I have one board that seems to get ERROR4 VRM errors which seem to be heat related. Bertmod isn't reporting it to be running any hotter than my October rig and this Eligius pool issue isn't helping with the diagnosis.
2837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 04:56:05 PM
If I did order 1 Neptune now to pay later, I mean latest 1 week later.  not 5 months.

As I can remember, the Jupiter's were meant to of started shipping end of September, but they were a couple weeks late, not 8 weeks late.

Also, don't you think now they have better understanding of the whole manufacturing process and their factory is fully setup with full workforce.  Unlike before (first time round) they were setting up and adding staff as they went along.

they have to have more experience this time round, no?

Problem is that "shit happens" like having to switch the VRM component at the last minute because they couldn't get the original ones, now sometimes that has a positive effect (Hash rate) and sometimes it has a negative effect (delay)

Certainly their delays are getting shorter, probably due to the manufacturing process becoming slicker.

But there is always something that can happen, it "appears" that when pushing the envelope with the Jupiter design that the variability of the production process can introduce perhaps tolerance problems that may have caused performance issues some machines.

Its hard to remember that to all extents and purposes in any other industry these would be highly experimental one off production runs. I mean we've only had 1 batch of October machines and one batch of redesigned November machines. In normal production runs they would be at the third or fourth batch by now and would have tweaked the production process to account for any anomalies that the discovered from earlier batches.
2838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
... with a hashrate of 3-7TH, depending on how much power you can supply.

Sauce for 7TH?

Cheers.

I guess thats based on the premise that because Jupiter was originally expected to be 350GH/s (actually the initial launch thought only 250GH/s) but in the end the November batch came out at near 700GH/s

Extrapolated from GH to TH then you get 3-7TH
2839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
Does anyone know where I can buy more thermal blocks of the same size as what is in the November Jupiter that cover the new VRM's?  Mine didn't come with any and it performs like an October Jup.

Been looking myself, they are about 1cm thick

Damn I'm going to have to open mine up and put it back. Shocked
2840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 11, 2013, 12:26:55 PM
Any word on reopening 28nm sales again?  These excess bitcoin are burning a hole in my pocket.  Especially with BTC prices back up.  I'm done with preorders for now (I think), I just want more hashing power NOW!

Would go against the KnC network protection policy I think, yes if the competition was launching significant compute power into the channel then i think we would see more Jupiters for sale, however:
It was a clever way of making the few months they spent developing the next miner look like they were "protecting the network". Which is obviously bs, as they did the November batch of Jups and the fire-sale of rma boards after that. That promise is already broken, if it meant anything in the first place.

https://www.kncminer.com/news?page=7

Quote
KnCMiner Network Protection Statement



At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
 
We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.
 
We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

Thanks
KnCMiner Team

The network protection promise only covers Dec/Jan/Feb, it doesn't cover the November Jupiters and upgrade boards.

Please note, this was posted on the 18th September 2013, and even then they knew they would be launching their new generation around March 2014

Your diatribe is entertaining as usual, but not sure what your point is other than another generic rant against the company Smiley

Are you against them selling more hardware or sticking to their promise?

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