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2821  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com on: August 17, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
He did not scam me.   

What these guy do is find a valid payal account then use it as ID for a trade.  They come up with some excuse like "I've been on the board longer then you" or "I never send first" and try to get you to send first.  Then they just disappear.  The thing with this guy was that he actually had control of the paypal email, which is even more difficult to detect fraud.

[snip]
Hey,
I'm looking for an amount of 120 bitcoins. I saw you have 100 for sale so I'd like to buy those if you are interested, and perhaps 20 more if you have those available. I agree with the current price of MtGoX+5%. Please let me know!
[/snip]

[snip]
Hey,
What's your email then? Also, just to make it clear, I do not go first for a transaction. If you want to do 60-full amount-60 that is fine as well, but I'm afraid to go first because of the amount of scammers.  - RED FLAG!
Please let me know.
[/snip]

[snip]
Ok, give me a second! But would you be okay by sending first? Sorry for asking but I'm a bit skeptical since having been scammed..   RED FLAG!
[/snip]

[snip]
Great!
Well I'm looking for 120 Bitcoins but on your sale you had 100, so if you have 120 that would be great, otherwise 100. With your price of +5% it would be $1431,86 for 100 or €1718,262 for 120. My wallet address is 1516rnmGUDeF4vyBX3NDR5eXd22yKZdPHR.
Great to see how you really make sure everything goes legit by the way, I might actually go do the same thing on future trades with people (with phone number etc).   [ now they pat you on the back.  it called gaining your confidence] RED FLAG
Thanks
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Let's start with a small amount say 10 BTC.
[/snip]

[snip]
If you want to split payments thats fine for me, but 10 at a time will take quite long :/ Would you be okay with 60 - full amount - 60?   HUGE RED FLAG!  Trust ALWAYS goes both ways.  If not delete.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Let's start with 10 then we'll move on to bigger amounts. That would be $143.70 USD.  Once I get payment I'll send 10 coins.
[/snip]

[snip]
Mate, you have verified several things of me and I have zero verifications of you, I dont even know your name. Also, you said you were okay by sending first ('Yes Glad to if you are verified. '). I'm sticking to what we agreed on, sorry.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Ok, Send me $1.00 just for a test.  That way you have my name and full information.  I'm sure you understand.
Thanks.
[/snip]

[snip]
Sorry, but even if I have your name and information I will not send first either. I think it's weird that you all of a sudden change your mind at the deal and I'm very skeptical at trading Bitcoins so I prefer not to take the risk.
[/snip]


Then it looked like he googled my email (He contacted me on bitcoinary)

[snip]
Not until you have send me the blockchain of the right address.. Look mate, I know that you're BCB and that you have a good reputation on bitcointalk.org, but I don't know what's going on here. But I do know that if you're trying to screw me over or whatsoever that your reputation will be gone..
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Why would I try to screw you over.  Did you see my reputation on bitoin talk and on bitcoinary.  Never a bad trade. What   are you on Bitcointalk now?  Check it out.
[/snip]

[snip]
me:
Ok, PM me from you nic on bitcoin talk so I can check your rep there.
[/snip]

[snip]
Look I want to trust you but you even refuse to send the blockchain address.. And if you had really send the bitcoins I would've had a confirmation of that by now.. So you can enter send that or I will post the logs on both sites.
[/snip]

So you see the pattern here:

Insists on sending first. 
Used valid but compromised credentials to verify.

refused to do PM me from his BTC nic.  ALWASYS get verification when some one you are trading with says they have cred on another site (OTC, BCT, Bitcoinary).  Have them contact you from that nic on that site.  Never take their word for it.

He's working hard here.  (On his original post he's offering Mt. Gox last plus 10%)  - FYI only scammers offer that kind of rate.  Then they play on your GREED.

Finally he resorts to threats.  Posting logs and ruining my reputation etc.  blah blah blah.

Meanwhile, while we were having this conversation ( I told him I send 60 BTC) I posted on his bitcoinary profile.

https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/879/profile

When he reads that he gig was up.

Someone should try to dox this guy.  You know he'll be back.

2822  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com on: August 17, 2012, 03:56:58 AM
he is on the move.

armax.me now points to 176.9.122.74

And 88.159.209.204 now point to

Domain name: klumpkens.nl
Status: active

Registrar:
Madeo Webservices
Roald Dahllaan 53
5629MC EINDHOVEN
Netherlands

DNSSEC: no

Domain nameservers:
zeus.madeo.nl
neptune.madeo.nl

he must be an isp.
2823  Economy / Scam Accusations / SCAMMER = Tom van de Moosdijk mysticalnl@gmail.com on: August 17, 2012, 02:28:48 AM
Don't even know if that is his real name but he used that name and this email address of a verified paypal account:

mysticalnl@gmail.com.

He also used the email qwois@hotmail.com

There is info here about this user/account from old bitcoin talk posts"

http://pastebin.com/Ap2xmYtZ

and here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=50906.0

He USED MOBILE PHONES NUMBERS
0616159824
31616159824
12034932706
His IP Address is 88.159.209.204  and tracks back to armax.me with a hidden whois.
He's from Belgium.

He also used the nic Meddy on bitcoinary.com

He's not the sharpest pencil in the box so he's pretty harmless but I'd hate to see other members get screwed by him.

DIE SCAMMER SCUM
2824  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 16, 2012, 02:15:57 PM
TANGO DOWN!

Anyone else not able to log in to intersango?
2825  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Posting Guidelines [WTS/WTB] [ITEM][FUNDING METHOD][TERMS][OPEN/CLOSED] on: August 16, 2012, 12:59:57 PM
Please mark your threads [CLOSED] in the subject line after a deal is closed or taken off the table.

Also maybe remind nubees to do the same after you trade with them.

Thank you.
2826  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll reset Aug. 16] When will the price of Bitcoin exceed $31.90? (2011 high) on: August 16, 2012, 12:55:15 PM
I'll say it again.  It hit 30 before Labor Day (US sept 5th) then the walls come tumbling down.
2827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why we need Bitcoins for international transactions on: August 16, 2012, 12:53:42 PM
HSBC has MUCH BIGGER problems with highly regulated fiat since their Mexican and US affiliates have been laundering Billions of Dollars of Drug Money for years and many other affiliates have been doing illegal business with IRAN.  They are facing serious sanctions and potentially billion dollar fines.  The last thing they need right now is to deal an unregulated instrument like bitcoin.


From the Financial Timeshttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ace83b9a-e6fc-11e1-af33-00144feab49a.html#axzz23iH512MC
  
2828  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Want to buy 10 BTC. Have paypal. Will pay extra $5. on: August 16, 2012, 04:10:10 AM
+1 papamo
Thanks.
2829  Local / Mercato valute / Re: (Primo Post)Compro 10 bitcoin on: August 16, 2012, 12:53:53 AM
140.90 PPUSD
2830  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 10:51:33 PM
More bitcoin shenanigans
2831  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Campbx deposit amount not matching. Contact CS, no response as to why on: August 15, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Deposited $12xx into campbx. My account only shows $1000 deposited.
Yes, I have KYC, so the $1k a day limit does not apply here.
Contacted campbx since Monday 8/13. Got a generic email saying they are looking into it.
it is now 8/15, and still no word as to what happened to the $2xx missing.
Perhaps they got a huge bug in the system? or system got breached??? Why are they not responding with a real answer?

I have over $1500 I havent heard back since monday also not hitting my bank yet

What type of transaction? Ach, Dwolla, Check, USmail??
2832  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Campbx deposit amount not matching. Contact CS, no response as to why on: August 15, 2012, 07:54:23 PM
Deposited $12xx into campbx. My account only shows $1000 deposited.
Yes, I have KYC, so the $1k a day limit does not apply here.
Contacted campbx since Monday 8/13. Got a generic email saying they are looking into it.
it is now 8/15, and still no word as to what happened to the $2xx missing.
Perhaps they got a huge bug in the system? or system got breached??? Why are they not responding with a real answer?

I have over $1500 I havent heard back since monday also not hitting my bank yet

Withdrawal? ACH?
2833  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 06:26:27 PM

Is that patrick??
2834  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
Maybe you need to show patrick some respect.  How much are you trying to get out.
2835  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 04:04:31 PM
Then you have people entrusting millions to a possibly underage kid and in the process of trying to fuck intersango he fucks the community.

No wonder Bitcoin can't establish any credibility.    To anybody trying to make sense of all the the bitcoinica threads we must look like a bunch of idiots.
2836  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 04:00:51 PM
@Otoh

I hear you. If they would be more transparent and communicate better I'd be glad to give them the benefit of the doubt.  But Patrick Norman looks like an idiot on his youtube video with Bruce Wagner, gentix posts about wanting to kill himself (depression is a serious issue, but get help don't use it as an excuse for your troubles), and Patrick seem to try his arrogant best to piss off as many people as possible.  Not my ideas of a team to whom I'd want to trust my hard earned money.

But even you as a long-time user are having your doubts I can only say.

STAY FAR FAR AWAY.


2837  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Campbx deposit amount not matching. Contact CS, no response as to why on: August 15, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
I just had a response from them late last night regarding another unrelated issue. So they are active.  I've always found them responsive if not always timely.  I have to think that probably every one of the bitcoin shops are not more then 2 or three guys (if that!) who also have other jobs, are are also owner, lead engineer and tech support. 

I do wish Keyur  or someone on his staff would post here from time to time.

Roman at bitfloor.com does a great job of communication with his clients.
2838  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: August 15, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
It boggles my mind why people continue to use intersango, unless they are trying to cash out and be done with them.

I removed all my funds months ago.

I was also very much looking forward to the BTC conference in London but will not attend due to there continued involvement.



2839  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB 10 BTC (paying hipay) on: August 15, 2012, 03:25:13 PM
Great trade with Meddol +1
EUR => BTC  via hipay

I had never used hipay and he even jumped on chat to talk while I figure out how to "accept" his payment.

Thanks.


EDIT:

Menddol is the scammer

Tom van de Moosdijk

using email mysticalnl@gmail.com


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101172.msg1105742#msg1105742
2840  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CampBX. Dwolla deposit problems? on: August 15, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
I regularly use CampBx and have been mostly satisfied with their service and low bid prices.

I don't think I've ever waited more then a few hours for a dwolla deposit, and short of walking to a bank or CVS with CASH I know of no faster way to convert fiat to BTC  with the exception of p2p trades.

I was recently blocked for "Verification"  during a trade.  I emailed  a notarized copy of my passport and electric bill (as I've had to do with almost every other service/exchange when you get to certain levels) and I was back in business in 24 hours.

I've interacted with support for account and api issues and always found them to be prompt and responsive.

Just my 2c
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