He did not scam me.
What these guy do is find a valid payal account then use it as ID for a trade. They come up with some excuse like "I've been on the board longer then you" or "I never send first" and try to get you to send first. Then they just disappear. The thing with this guy was that he actually had control of the paypal email, which is even more difficult to detect fraud.
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Hey,
I'm looking for an amount of 120 bitcoins. I saw you have 100 for sale so I'd like to buy those if you are interested, and perhaps 20 more if you have those available. I agree with the current price of MtGoX+5%. Please let me know!
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Hey,
What's your email then? Also, just to make it clear, I do not go first for a transaction. If you want to do 60-full amount-60 that is fine as well, but I'm afraid to go first because of the amount of scammers. - RED FLAG!
Please let me know.
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Ok, give me a second! But would you be okay by sending first? Sorry for asking but I'm a bit skeptical since having been scammed.. RED FLAG!
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Great!
Well I'm looking for 120 Bitcoins but on your sale you had 100, so if you have 120 that would be great, otherwise 100. With your price of +5% it would be $1431,86 for 100 or €1718,262 for 120. My wallet address is 1516rnmGUDeF4vyBX3NDR5eXd22yKZdPHR.
Great to see how you really make sure everything goes legit by the way, I might actually go do the same thing on future trades with people (with phone number etc). [ now they pat you on the back. it called gaining your confidence] RED FLAG
Thanks
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me:
Let's start with a small amount say 10 BTC.
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If you want to split payments thats fine for me, but 10 at a time will take quite long :/ Would you be okay with 60 - full amount - 60? HUGE RED FLAG! Trust ALWAYS goes both ways. If not delete.
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me:
Let's start with 10 then we'll move on to bigger amounts. That would be $143.70 USD. Once I get payment I'll send 10 coins.
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Mate, you have verified several things of me and I have zero verifications of you, I dont even know your name. Also, you said you were okay by sending first ('Yes Glad to if you are verified. '). I'm sticking to what we agreed on, sorry.
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me:
Ok, Send me $1.00 just for a test. That way you have my name and full information. I'm sure you understand.
Thanks.
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Sorry, but even if I have your name and information I will not send first either. I think it's weird that you all of a sudden change your mind at the deal and I'm very skeptical at trading Bitcoins so I prefer not to take the risk.
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Then it looked like he googled my email (He contacted me on bitcoinary)
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Not until you have send me the blockchain of the right address.. Look mate, I know that you're BCB and that you have a good reputation on bitcointalk.org, but I don't know what's going on here. But I do know that if you're trying to screw me over or whatsoever that your reputation will be gone..
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me:
Why would I try to screw you over. Did you see my reputation on bitoin talk and on bitcoinary. Never a bad trade. What are you on Bitcointalk now? Check it out.
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me:
Ok, PM me from you nic on bitcoin talk so I can check your rep there.
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Look I want to trust you but you even refuse to send the blockchain address.. And if you had really send the bitcoins I would've had a confirmation of that by now.. So you can enter send that or I will post the logs on both sites.
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So you see the pattern here:
Insists on sending first.
Used valid but compromised credentials to verify.
refused to do PM me from his BTC nic. ALWASYS get verification when some one you are trading with says they have cred on another site (OTC, BCT, Bitcoinary). Have them contact you from that nic on that site. Never take their word for it.
He's working hard here. (On his original post he's offering Mt. Gox last plus 10%) - FYI only scammers offer that kind of rate. Then they play on your GREED.
Finally he resorts to threats. Posting logs and ruining my reputation etc. blah blah blah.
Meanwhile, while we were having this conversation ( I told him I send 60 BTC) I posted on his bitcoinary profile.
https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/879/profileWhen he reads that he gig was up.
Someone should try to dox this guy. You know he'll be back.
