According to this extrapolation we should start heading to Mars pretty soon now.
Please, volume determins direction. Bitcoin is heading towards a black hole, and it is a really very very black one. Let me guess, you're looking at (a) raw BTC volume and (b) on mtgox. Am I right? I know I'm right ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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They will never take Rpitelia alive..... That's what they said about loaded as well. And see where he is now. Shorten your shorts, I say.
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![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Oh wow. So much happening right now... First, as confirmed above, big time trader 'loaded' arrested in China ( source), and now, another well known player, forum user rpietila arrested in Finland ( source -- they basically call him "the Finnish Charlie Schrem"). This isn't good. Not good at all. Please, arrest me and throw away the key if I were to ever get that sloppy. You can get Internet in prison nowadays! Amazing! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) EDIT: also, I hope you're in better shape than the dude in the article I linked to.
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![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Oh wow. So much happening right now... First, as confirmed above, big time trader 'loaded' arrested in China ( source), and now, another well known player, forum user rpietila arrested in Finland ( source -- they basically call him "the Finnish Charlie Schrem"). This isn't good. Not good at all. /confirmed Realy bad news! Increased shotr leverage! Are they close on your heels, too? I actually just logged into to bitfinex and shorted my short positions! That's how serious this is :/
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![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Oh wow. So much happening right now... First, as confirmed above, big time trader 'loaded' arrested in China ( source), and now, another well known player, forum user rpietila arrested in Finland ( source -- they basically call him "the Finnish Charlie Schrem"). This isn't good. Not good at all.
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Momentum chasers are parasites that increase volatility and harm bitcoin adoption by merchants.
I admit that momentum is one factor, can't be ignored, and in extreme cases may be characterized as a rush to the egress, resulting in spikes. Even so, higher trading frequency is beneficial to liquidity, and in most profitable cases will reduce volatility; most higher frequency trades are mean-reversion trades, at least in my paradigm. Haha, good luck educating the unwashed math-less anti TA/anti daytrading crowd. Might as well try to explain quantum mechanics to a brick ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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It's really strange. The way it looks I get the impression mtgox is *really* about to implode, this time.
Then I remember I've been thinking that for about a year by now, and it never happened.
This exchange is like a goddamn zombie, I swear :D
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Bitcointalk™ Where nerds believe that upholding politically correct male-female quality jargon and their bitcoin riches will one day get them laid.
15 years later....
Bitcointalk™ Where nerds who lost their bitcoin fortunes to their divorce settlement with their lusting ex-wives hang out and reminisce on the 'good ole days'.
What a bitter lonely little man you must be. Don't act all surprised, when all you do is fuck barflies, if it turns out they're not exactly Rosalind Franklin level intelligence wise. It's kind of sad when you think about it... you had all the chances in the world to date women in your IQ range when you were at university. Thinking about it some more, you probably didn't.
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Its generally true. Its why women flip their moods so often and are never satisfied. Its why they say "you can never win an argument with a women" - because she is never arguing logic and facts.
Oh come on, kind of generalising here, methinks - please don't scare whatever females might still be bothering to check in here away...? Hence, the use of the phrase "Its generally true". For most women in most situations this is true, but in professional situations women are generally able to pull it together. Bitcointalk™ Where 'dumb as a brick' and 'probably rich' don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Would consider signing up (even for a longer running newsletter), but your analysis is based on btc-e, right? Any chance you could extend your service to Bitstamp? (and please don't say "the rates across exchanges are correlated anyway", they are, I know, but often enough there's a critical delay between trends on different exchanges, and it's tedious to translate signals from one exchange to another)
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I know the TA is difficult but the point is I would definitely be in by $1000 probably nowhere near $1000, so everyone telling me about how I'm going to end up chasing the price forever has an invalid point.
Unless you have buy orders at 970 or whatever you will be left behind when just 1 big whale starts buying and you're not behind your computer for 10 mins. And absolutely nothing your TA can do about it. Let alone predict it. It's ridiculous to count on TA when it comes toBitcoin. It's just gambing with your money. But hey, the last thing i could care about is a bear left behind with all his charts, lines and fibs wondering what the hell just went wrong. So feel free to continue. Sounds to me like your battle cry essentially boils down to If I'm not able to do it, nobody else is able to do it either. Bit immature if put like that, huh? Or do you have any actual arguments as to why TA is completely, universally, across all time frames useless when applied to BTC. Because of whales? That would add an element of uncertainty to your analysis, but wouldn't necessarily make it useless -- keep in mind, the goal is not to be profitable all the time, but to make an overall profit over a long enough time span. I'm just responding even though you didn't address me because it's kind of painful to read blanket statements like that... based on a "good" TA call I managed to pretty much exactly double my no. of coin in the immediate aftermath of the double top, and based on another "bad" TA call, but combined with proper risk management, I took a hit of less than 1% (the trades itself were basically neutral, but after fees apply, it was the small minus). So how often, and how consistently do I need to stay in the plus to allow myself the delusion that careful usage of TA is in fact profitable?
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And here is what called me out of my short sell behind that 1500K Ask wall on Stamp. A whale well known to this board getting his capital the fk out of Gox: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg4778423#msg4778423Wonder if any of the bulltards pointing and laughing at me in this forum are still feeling so confident in Bitcoin. Dark days are immediately ahead for Bitcoin......unless you are shorting.....providing the shorting exchanges honour their debtors that is, which has happened not to be the case plenty times in Bitcoins past. Mat, I realize you're in your "mild retard" phase lately, but this time you're going too far. Quoting the "whale" rpietila, taking anything he says at face value... you can't be that naive, can you?
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Hahaha, I see... Masterluc is back in his I-want-to-rebuy-cheaper troll phase. Good luck ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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For the bootstrapping phase of a global, peer-to-peer {reserve currency, store of wealth, payment system} USD/BTC necessarily looks the way it does;
The way USD/BTC looks is not sufficient to guarantee the success of this becoming a global, peer-to-peer {reserve currency, store of wealth, payment system}.
Essentially and importantly true. Worthy of deeper discussion, on both the necessity and sufficiency sides. Clearly you don't mean this specific chart is necessary , but rather a chart conforming to the necessary conditions. Knowing what those were would suffice to detect when they fail. Similarly, clearly identifying the sufficient conditions would enable one to determine whether they were present. I'm not going to contribute to such a discussion presently, but I hope the value of it is clear, and that this clarity motivates thought. True. The exact graph we see isn't the only one possible, but a number of underlying conditions generating the price are, so any version of it would probably be equally exciting /infuriating /paranoia provoking.
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Double post. 'cause I got another nugget of wisdom for you guys.
All those walls of text about manipulation here and miner profitability there and how it all can only mean one thing: DOWN DOWN DOWN, or the bullish alternative: buy back now or the CHOO CHOO leaves without you... they're just noise. They miss one insight I recommend hammering into your brain, mantra like, until you *get* it...
What we've seen for the past 3 odd years follows one simple rule:
For the bootstrapping phase of a global, peer-to-peer {reserve currency, store of wealth, payment system} USD/BTC necessarily looks the way it does;
The way USD/BTC looks is not sufficient to guarantee the success of this becoming a global, peer-to-peer {reserve currency, store of wealth, payment system}.
That is all. If you convinced yourself of the above, many of your little nervous breakdowns will simply go away. You can still daytrade if that's what you do best, you can buy & hold (which means you bet on the long term success as described above), or you can close your positions and leave (if you have serious doubts about the success of Bitcoin in the fields described above). But you probably won't look at each minor swing and see dark forces at work pulling string at the expense of the "small guy", whether it's pulling price up or pushing it down.
In reality, this is what one of the most amazing social experiments during my lifetime looks like, in which a plethora of market forces attempt to participate in the experiment in order to fulfill their own highest ranked desire (idealism, greed, curiosity). It couldn't be any other way.
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You know, somehow I can tolerate Mat's doom & gloom brand of bearism... at least he has some skin in the game in a way most bears rarely do, he's actively shorting. I appreciate the drama around that, if not his analysis. But you, Impaler... your incredulity is surprising. I am indeed not a miner, I am an observer of miners and a student of macro-economics which puts me in a better position to predict the overall trends then an individual miner who thinks micro-economically. First you confuse 'declining profitability' with 'unprofitable', as you said the unprofitable miner ceases to mine and the miners as a whole stay profitable but JUST BARELY. And just barely profitable miners still have costs that need to be paid, so the percentage of your daily take that can be hoarded declines. It is as simple as that.
You just sound like a pompous prick when you put on that bear suit. I remember the last discussion we had about this topic. August 7th, in one of chodpaba's threads. Price had dipped slightly below 100 again these days (on bitstamp), and based on the same "I have a deep insight into the psychology of miners" bullshit argument, you predicted, what?, going back to 50? Something like that. You recommended fucking shorting, in fact, a few days before a trend that took us from ~100 to ~1200. I'm sure you will forgive me if I'm not exactly reading your analysis based on miners' sales/hoarding strategies with the utmost reverence.
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Just wanted to let you know that the little exchange above, between Mat and sgbett, is one of the most amusing things I've read in here for a while... "Keep on showing your leveraged tits! Those juicy melons are prime stinging fodder." "If all you avaricious wankers can consider Bitcoin hitting 1 million, I can consider the much greater likiliehood of it dipping under $100 again." You guys are on a run. Don't stop ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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There. Title adjusted. Glad he's still here.
Now predict the price for us, usdbtc monkey!
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Haven't seen any talk about this in the past few days...is this still being used by trusted members on this forum? How effective has it been for you?
Ignore the clowns (like wobber). Nothing scammy about this service. Their newsletter is well done, the only complaint I have is that they tend to send a lot of signals, so the expected trading strategy is somewhat different from what I prefer (few, but large trades). Anyway, I never regretted subscribing, because it is still useful information even if I don't act on most of their signals (but I do use them as confirmation for my own trading choices).
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Oh no, I'm still here. I just delete my posts periodically because I would prefer that others come to believe that my ideas are their own. Why is the black lady from the matrix on a bitcoin forum? Because the black lady from the matrix is called, "The Oracle" I like it. The actress who played her died and was replaced before the 3rd act. */ dark foreshadowing */ but it's not about the actress. It's about the charachter she portrayed. Wait a minute....didn't the Oracle die in the matrix too (I can't remember)? Crap Obviously, this is a far more complex issue than just what chodpapa had for lunch yesterday I mean, why chodpapa's posts were deleted. Isn't it obvious? He knew too much. Those who set the BTC price (ancap space jews!) don't appreciate someone disclosing their fundamental price function, so they "advised" theymos to delete chodpaba's history.
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