Clinton's Crazy Conspiracy Theory![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F522-0829154157-AA.png&t=663&c=0Fo5Y5zy4UiryA) Hillary Clinton's recent "alt right" speech marks a new and dangerous low in what has become race to the bottom – and, should she be elected, it has ominous foreign policy implications as well.
Alarmed that Trump is reaching out to the African-American community, Mrs. Clinton tried to make the case that the GOP candidate is a apologist for such groups as the Ku Klux Klan (do they still exist?) and an obscure amalgam she dubbed the "alt right." As she named this latter group, there was a significant silence, a pause in the cheering: perhaps her audience thought she was having a senior moment of the intestinal variety.
In any case, none of this is anything new: it's a variation on the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" theme that she has been dragging out ever since the 1990s. There is, however, a new dimension to this tired boilerplate, now that she's running for President: the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy is being portrayed an international cabal with its headquarters in the Kremlin. Read more at http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/08/28/clintons-crazy-conspiracy-theory/.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I just want to know if I'm the only one aware of that. USA actually brought nothing on this last century but the destruction of the world. The whole middle east situation is entirely their fault. The overwhelming power of oil companies is their fault. The absurd market deregulation is their fault. The nonsense power of banks on the rest of the world I their fault.
But you can also add instability of south America, consumption society, the absurd (and false) trust in a growth society.
I mean, USA is probably the biggest mistake of France. As a French I truly apologise, we should have never sent any troops and firepower to the USA when they were at war with UK. Sorry again people.
are you the son of Kim Jong-un or brother of ISIS? Hes Hitler reborn ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Look into the detailed history of Winston Churchill. If England had the same kind of government structure as Germany, Churchill would have been another Hitler. In some ways he almost was anyway. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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"Election Fraud Underway" - NBC Affiliate Posts "Election Results" For Florida R![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F533-0829184312-AA.png&t=663&c=h8S6pi_pBXeuQA) Why do we need voters when it's far easier to just skip straight to the results?
The note from WPTV showed Laurel getting 12,189 votes or 45%. Laurel posted the following comment to her facebook page in response to the erroneous report:
"Election fraud is already taking place here in Palm Beach County! WPTV is posting election results, today, when the race is Tuesday! Please spread the word and contact everyone you know to vote Bennett on Tuesday! I have a snapshot of it! End corruption in Palm Beach! It begins with you, the voter!"
Accordig to Bizpac Review, the station claims they were just "testing their election page" in an effort to "bring you fast and accurate election results on election day."
"In order to make sure we bring you fast and accurate election results on election day, we are testing our election page ahead of time with test data. On election day, this message will be removed and the actual election results will be displayed on this page." Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/election-fraud-underway-nbc-affiliate-posts-election-results-florida-race-hasnt-happ.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The siph is really getting to you, isn't it. Or is it gonorrhea? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all.
What sort of Pretzel Logic is this ?! sounds like you don't know much about cause and effect backed up by Newton's 3rd Law. Cause and effect just might be the most bottom-line operation in the whole universe, operating in more things than anything else. Study it. I understand physics just fine. What I don't understand is your logic; all those chemical processes and molecules doing their things are caused by us in response to stimuli, and the result is free-will. This is a chicken-egg argument, no ? There is no proven fact that we cause anything, except that we were acted upon to cause things. In other words, our free will was caused to be what it is, and therefore is not free will at all, but simply reactions to causations. While I don't agree with what I just wrote entirely, there is no scientific law that says the opposite. There might be unproven metaphysical laws that state it, but there is no scientific law. Such a law would indicate pure randomness in the universe. But we have no proof of pure randomness anywhere. No chicken egg conundrum in this at all. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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There is the tree. The sun is shining on the tree leaves. The breeze is blowing, making the leaves turn and twist this way and that. We feel the breeze. We see how the breeze moves the tree leaves. But we can't track even one molecule of air in the breeze, to see where it goes. God tracks them all, and everything else, as well. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This sounds alot like what a buddhist monk would tell to their followers for the path of light is the path too enlightenment. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Buddhist monks are people. Like scientists, they observe things. Why won't the scientist tell you things like this? Too proud? Too ignorant? Afraid that someone will catch on to the idea of cause and effect, and realize that God exists, and that God is way beyond people in every way? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I can relate to what you are saying on this topic but the question would be next: "Do you trust in God?" ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Of course I trust in God, but the things that you would do if you trusted in God are different than the things that I do trusting in God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The more I research flat earth, the more I know round earth is truth. I don't have to believe. I know. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all.
What sort of Pretzel Logic is this ?! sounds like you don't know much about cause and effect backed up by Newton's 3rd Law. Cause and effect just might be the most bottom-line operation in the whole universe, operating in more things than anything else. Study it. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Things that are known to science: Evolution is a fact Probability math shows that evolution is impossible. The thing that science calls evolution is simply complex cause and effect... programming of the universe and life. Actually, the myth that Adam and Eve incestuously copulated and led to our current population today in just a matter of 6,000 years is what is mathematically impossible. Adam live to be substantially older than 900. While we don't know how old Eve was when she died, people were healthy to live as long as they did. When you are healthy, sex is fun. Eve probably had 400 years of fun sex child bearing time. That's 400 kids+. This kind of thing lasted the 1,600 years or so before the Flood, and for a time, after the Flood. Like all the women were having this great fun. The question is, why is the population so small? Wars do you think? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Things that are known to science: Evolution is a fact Probability math shows that evolution is impossible. The thing that science calls evolution is simply complex cause and effect... programming of the universe and life.
Things that are not known to science: God
The existence of God is shown by combining the scientific facts of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The things I am talking are known to be science fact.
I would have to disagree with that one, because nothing in the world is established to be a "fact". The ideas we recognize as scientifically accurate today may nor may not hold true tomorrow. However, there is universal truth, ideas like "Everyone is equal" which would hold true regardless of what the beliefs of a person's time are. I will also add a quote by Voltaire here: “Every man is a creature of the age in which he lives and few are able to raise themselves above the ideas of the time.” Now you are talking philosophy. Newton didn't formulate his 3rd law because nobody else had seen it in action. All people since the beginning have used it, and many have understood it. Newton simply was making a base for scientific study when he formulated it. Newton's 3rd Law is fact. Saying that it might not be fact, is philosophy or religion... or maybe simply stupidity. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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there is no hope for you flat earthers, lol. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Motherfucker, are you actually going to deny the atmosphere magnifies the Sun and Moon when they're close to the horizon? Are you that fucking stupid? Everybody has seen the giant Moon on the horizon asshole! There is hope for you flat earthers. But it isn't in the tiny bit of atmospheric magnification that exists. It lies in the fact that you are finding out that flat earth is a religion, and not science. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Socialism = government by the people, for the people Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)
All the people of socialism use capitalism... all of them, everywhere, in one form or another. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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You knew you lost the argument as soon as you went Godwin in the title, right?
Just so you know, Godwin's law states that you are going to have a Hitler/Nazi reference, it does not mean the argument is false because of it. For instance, if we are talking about exterminating a certain type of people (eugenics), then I can certainly say that it is Nazi-like, and I won't be wrong. The title is the place that showed there isn't any argument. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I agree with you that there is partial free will. But according to scientific laws that we know, there isn't any free will. And the free will that we have is something entirely different than what we think it is. Entirely different. That's a next level discussion opener right there. I would say that, simultaneously, we have both free will, and at the same time, no free will at all (according to physics). I am talking about a psycho-social, spiritual level here. From a materialistic perspective, we are all going to die and there really is nothing deeper than that. People talk all kinds of things, right? Religion, and even philosophy, are things that are believed. That is, they are not know to be fact, either at all, or at least partially. The things I am talking are known to be science fact. Talk is fun. It stimulates thinking. Many ideas are conveyed by talk. Ideas are ideas. Facts are facts. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Who cares if the site was made by an orangutan? The stuff in it is incomplete. In addition to giving evolution an unfair, biased-in-favor-of-evolution benefit of the doubt, the stuff doesn't even include all the things that destroy every beneficial mutation that might have come along. But there is no evidence for beneficial mutations in nature in the first place. Talk about competition if you like, but competition doesn't have anything to do with it. Further, cause and effect is the thing we know. Let me quote you what I wrote at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1575332.msg16079564#msg16079564, and then find the information that really refutes it. You won't be able, because there is only talk against it - no factual science: Newton's 3rd Law suggests otherwise. Remember, this law is a law. It isn't a theory. Everything that attempts to overcome Newton's 3rd Law is a theory or less... at least so far as we understand. Newton's 3rd law with regard to free will works something like this. Imagine that you make a free-will choice. To make this choice, almost countless numbers of electrons move in your brain. There are all kinds of additional chemical and bio-electrical stimuli at work in your brain, as well. Now, focus on one electron in a firing synapse in you brain... one of the firings that is working with your decision-making process in the free-will choice we are discussing. This electron moves because it was bumped by a different electron = cause and effect. When it moves, it runs into another electron, stalling its own motion somewhat, and causing the other electron to move = cause and effect. Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all. All of this cause and effect goes back to what you had for supper last night, the cup of coffee you drank this morning, the sip of water you had at your desk, the perfume that beautiful co-worker of yours is wearing, etc., because the chemicals of all these affect you in some way. And all this in influenced by multitudes of things that affected the food you ate as it was growing, the chemicals in the water, the way the perfume was distilled. And all of this was caused to be the way it was by many other things... all the way back to the Beginning when God set the cause-and-effect process up to act out the earth's future history the way it did. I agree with you that there is partial free will. But according to scientific laws that we know, there isn't any free will. And the free will that we have is something entirely different than what we think it is. Entirely different. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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When you check into it, you will find that the experiments caused the so-called randomness. So it WAS cause and effect, because the randomness wouldn't have happened without the experimenters causing it to happen. So, essentially it wasn't randomness at all.
Theological Determinism is bullshit. Newton's 3rd Law suggests otherwise. Remember, this law is a law. It isn't a theory. Everything that attempts to overcome Newton's 3rd Law is a theory or less... at least so far as we understand. Newton's 3rd law with regard to free will works something like this. Imagine that you make a free-will choice. To make this choice, almost countless numbers of electrons move in your brain. There are all kinds of additional chemical and bio-electrical stimuli at work in your brain, as well. Now, focus on one electron in a firing synapse in you brain... one of the firings that is working with your decision-making process in the free-will choice we are discussing. This electron moves because it was bumped by a different electron = cause and effect. When it moves, it runs into another electron, stalling its own motion somewhat, and causing the other electron to move = cause and effect. Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all. All of this cause and effect goes back to what you had for supper last night, the cup of coffee you drank this morning, the sip of water you had at your desk, the perfume that beautiful co-worker of yours is wearing, etc., because the chemicals of all these affect you in some way. And all this in influenced by multitudes of things that affected the food you ate as it was growing, the chemicals in the water, the way the perfume was distilled. And all of this was caused to be the way it was by many other things... all the way back to the Beginning when God set the cause-and-effect process up to act out the earth's future history the way it did. I agree with you that there is partial free will. But according to scientific laws that we know, there isn't any free will. And the free will that we have is something entirely different than what we think it is. Entirely different. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Hang yourself, goof. Make your mommy proud. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Is your nose really that big? When you observe all the stuff in the flat earth videos, none of it can be proven, except the fact that some wierdo's know how to explain things the wrong way, and make videos of such explanations. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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