I am on the Flip School telegram channel and read all messages.
And there is no hard work from the "teachers". 1-2 times a day they write something like - "yes, this is a good flip" or "no, this flip is bad, replace the pictures."
And this happens sooooo rarely.
So don't lie about hard work.
Let me get this straight. This is shitcoin. Devs are liers. DEvs are greedy scammers. Devs are stealing money but ... you read all messages on one of Idena telegram groups (and not even main group)? If there was anyone here who was not yet sure about your intentions (to lie and create false FUD) for sure has no doubts now. "Unlimited" - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."
That's it.
Yes, they are limited in the number of coins earned per 1 validation.
BUT they are not limited in the number of validations.
'A certain number of coins' * 'non-limited number of validations' = 'unlimited coins'.
Are you incredibly dumb or just trying to mislead other people?
So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Greed. Inexhaustible greed.
You said (from your second account) that they have access to unlimited coins 2 times a month. They have access to 3k coin 2 times a month on average. But even if ... unlimited validations? There will be no more than 1500 validation in next 100 years out of which devs will get around 2.2 mln coins (considering linear network grow, it will be closer to 1 mln coin because network grow is far from linear) - less than 5% of current supply. It is more limited than you think. Are you incredibly dumb or just trying to mislead other people?
Again you come back here after months. I smash your lies with facts and you start to offend... Leave this topic like last time, come back after next few months with same lies and I will destroy them with the same arguments. |
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They decided that they could hand out invitations without doing any work for it.
So yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Greed. Inexhaustible greed.
No work = working hard in flip school on telegram teaching each new network participant what flip is, how to make them and testing them if they understand it correctly. For sure - no work. First LIESo yes, you're right, they just opened up access to unlimited coins 2 times a month.
Unlimited = ~3k DNA on average. (this number will go down with every epoch - network grow - lower reward for single invitation) Unlimited - "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent." 3k =/= unlimited. Unless you can count only to 20 because that's how much fingers you have. And idena has bounty campaign and has to pay for it. Idena has community developers doing mobile APP, finished ledger support, Idena Ethereum Relay, chrome extension, Voting app using Idena-SignIn, Fairdrop, Lightweight web wallet, idena forum using Idena-SignIn and many more - https://idena-apps.org/apps.html. 6k DNA per month is not even a fraction of what they deserve. Another LIETo all normal forum members. If you are answering posts full of lies with colors and bolds made by fund makers. Don't quote whole his post to add one sentence at the bottom. All you do is making their lies more visible. |
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Binance just launched smart chain - as CZ said - perfect for defi - damn they really want to suck as much money from DEFI hype as it is possible. They are already listing up to 20 new coins each month (most of them are defi). Few interresting quotes from announcment: Binance Smart Chain communities are wrapping up to release many handy tools this month, for functions such as token issuance and transfer, BNB staking, and dApp creation and usage. Please stay tuned!" "Even before the mainnet launch of Binance Smart Chain, numerous crypto projects are already working with the Binance Chain community to help make BSC a robust blockchain platform. Here are some of our collaborators: - Blockchain Infrastructure and Tools: ChainLink, Band Protocol, Trust Wallet, Ankr, BSCScan, Bitquery.io, MathWallet, MyWish, CertiK, Torus - DeFi: Swipe, Aave, 1inch.exchange, WazirX, DODO, dForce, Bounce.finance, Spartan Protocol, MCDEX, Cream, ForTube, DeBank - Cross-Chain Liquidity: RenVM, pNetwork, Thorchain, Ferrum.Network, Alpha Finance - Others: Dapp.Review, Ontology, Travala.com, Republic.co, Clutch, BCA, Ignite We’ll share more about these collaborations soon." " It also introduces an all-new staking mechanism for BNB," links: https://www.binance.org/en/blog/binance-smart-chain-mainnet-launch/https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684900933/Binance-Smart-Chain-Launches-Today?utm_source=BinanceTwitter&utm_medium=GlobalSocial&utm_campaign=GlobalSocial |
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Looks like people are divided into lovers and haters. In any case the price is looking good, even if the devs premine is huge, this means they don't sell as much as people thinks.
No. Everyone with healthy brain will not hate IDENA. People are divided into lovers and hidden lovers under haters mask to create fake FUD to buy more before it will explode to bitfinex, binance, kucoin, huobi. They know that nothing will stop price than. Its one of a kind innovative coin (with under 10 mln $ marketcap !!). Not another erc-20 token with big promises. Thats why main hater - Tyttifructawy Anus is here for months under few accounts (same posting style) posting same BS that was already explained many times. |
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BNB od marca rosło spokojnie, ale wygląda na to, że właśnie coś się zaczyna dziać, bo skoków 10-15% jednego dnia nie było zbyt wiele do tej pory.
To coś, to uruchomiony wczoraj Smart chain. Reklamowany przez CZ jako idealny do robienia defi, zbawienie rynku defi, który przez wysokie opłaty ETH zapada się pod sobą. Wczoraj sprawdzałem, czy to faktycznie problem i jak zobaczyłem 480 gas price na ETH to az mi szczena opadła. Taka narracja codziennie na twitterze CZ "The high ETH network gas fees is causing problems for most exchanges, running with $10-20 loss on each withdrawal. Will have to adjust our withdrawal fees sooner or later" W dodatku binance zdumiewająco szybko się rozrasta starając się z rynku DEFI wyrwać jak najwięcej się da. Dynamika tej giełdy niezmiennie mnie zaskakuje. Listują obecnie około 20 nowych tokenów miesięcznie, a wolumeny na rynku spot nigdy nie były aż tak ogromne. 100 mln $ na samym LINK/USDT, 700 mln $ na ETH/USDT. Przecież to kategoria ciężka, w której do niedawna siedział tylko bitcoin, a teraz już 11 par walutowych przekracza wolumenem dziennym 100 mln $ na rynku spot i 8 na binance futures. Według CMC dzienny wolumen na binance przekracza 1 mln bitcoinów. "Binance Smart Chain communities are wrapping up to release many handy tools this month, for functions such as token issuance and transfer, BNB staking, and dApp creation and usage. Please stay tuned!" Będzie gorąco. Ja liczę na jakiś duże przejście z ETH na BNB (cos jak link). A jeszcze bardziej na więcej szczegółów dotyczących stakowania BNB (mam nadzieję, że wbudują to w giełdę i wystarczy mieć tam tokeny, by w interfejsie giełdy oddelegować swoje głosy i zarabiać) "Even before the mainnet launch of Binance Smart Chain, numerous crypto projects are already working with the Binance Chain community to help make BSC a robust blockchain platform. Here are some of our collaborators: - Blockchain Infrastructure and Tools: ChainLink, Band Protocol, Trust Wallet, Ankr, BSCScan, Bitquery.io, MathWallet, MyWish, CertiK, Torus - DeFi: Swipe, Aave, 1inch.exchange, WazirX, DODO, dForce, Bounce.finance, Spartan Protocol, MCDEX, Cream, ForTube, DeBank - Cross-Chain Liquidity: RenVM, pNetwork, Thorchain, Ferrum.Network, Alpha Finance - Others: Dapp.Review, Ontology, Travala.com, Republic.co, Clutch, BCA, Ignite We’ll share more about these collaborations soon." IEO, Airdropy! za samo hodlowanie, voting i teraz jeszcze dojdzie stakowanie (delegacja na nowym chainie). Pasywny zysk ilościowy przekroczy tu 50% rocznie i jest to zysk ilościowy na deflacyjnym instrumencie (token burn). linki: https://www.binance.org/en/blog/binance-smart-chain-mainnet-launch/https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684900933/Binance-Smart-Chain-Launches-Today?utm_source=BinanceTwitter&utm_medium=GlobalSocial&utm_campaign=GlobalSocial |
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Recently I see so many people talk about Idena, but I'm not sure that's enough to make the price become $1
Everyone talks about top 560 CMC coin and it is not enough to boost it to top 300 CMC (1$ price) ?? It is way more than that  Who talks about Lisk anyome? Top 60 CMC or NEM top 20CMC ... no one. I also have a laptop and I think the specification is good. If worth it maybe I will mine it too.
You will find answere here. https://idena.site/faq_tutorials.phpI was mining idena for months on my 10 years old laptop. I'm sure yours will handle it. Not sure about your network connection. It is better to run it on VPS. You can test digital ocean for 2 months for free (or vultr for 1 month for free) how many Idena you will earn every day?
Cryptovigi made good calculation here. But you need to scale that to 3600 nodes and 30 cents/DNA 1. prize from mining: currently 2564 nodes online so 25,920 / 2564 = 10,109 coins per day * 30 = 303.27 coins per month 2. 2 x validation reward (currently validation is every two weeks) ~ 47 coins x 2 gives 94 coins 3.flip reward 17,693 coins for each flip minimum 3 maximum 5 (with human status) which gives from ~ 53 to 88 coins (x2 validations per month) from ~ 106 to ~ 176 coins per month so only from this we have up to 573 coins (the current iDNA coin rate is $ 0.27) what makes ~ $ 150 4. additionally, we have a chance to invite others to the Idena project and if the user we invite undergoes the validation process, we will get ~ 47 coins for the first validation, 3 times more for the second and 6 times more for the third ... so with a maximum of two invitations from trusted people, every two weeks we can get an additional 2x47 (first validation) + 2x141 (second validation) + 2 x282 coins (third validation) , i.e. together with a lot of luck 940 coins x 2 validations which can give you 1880 coins a month ~ $ 507 but let's be honest it is not easy to find 4 users each month who will pass 3 validations in a row so let's assume that only 25% of them (i.e. 1 of 4) will pass 3 validations what gives ~ $ 127 per month So together we have from ~ $ 650 a month (but let's be honest it's very difficult and unlikely) to ~ $ 277 a month - definitely achievable. Since Idena is blockchain everything I wrote here can be checked, for example, at https://scan.idena.io/epoch/52/rewards but remember that they are based on today's Idena rate so they may go up or down if the coin rate changes. I wrote well about profits but what about costs? time: for each validation you need to prepare 3-5 flips making a good one may take 15-30 minutes, so up to 45 minutes up to 2.5h twice a month and an additional 20-30 minutes for validation (x 2 validations per month) so we spend 2.5 to 6 hours per month. mining costs: i.e. electricity or VPS, about $ 5 per month |
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finally reached Human status, and got two invitations, if someone needs one, could reach me on PM
it is good to see that number of validations is rising, it was flat for few weeks and now is going steady up last two epochs, which is good, from 2xxx to 3xxx number in a month
Congratulations on achieving human status. Yea it was quite stable because the price was at the bottom and did not encourage mining that much. Network grow chart with short explanation for new members:  If price won't suddenly crash network will explode to 5000 nodes in a matter of 2 epochs. ~8k nodes after 5 epochs (2.5 month). I hope Andrew is ready. |
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Still being fascinated by BNB, I managed to cross the threshold after which I am in possession of a reflink with 20% kickback (20% commission returns to the user recommended by me) - pretty rare code because you have to lock big chunk of BNB. As I cannot post it directly here (bitcointalk rules about reflinks), please feel free to write me a PM. Just create a new account on binance using my code to enjoy lower commissions on each transaction.
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Rate limits won't come into play unless you're bot is attempting to submit multiple orders consecutively due to finding spreads very close to each other. All real-time data being used by the bot is done via public websocket connections, so the bot isn't making any REST calls until it's time to submit orders. Since most rate limits are for within a certain time period, i.e. X calls within 60 seconds, your bot would have to find a lot of spreads within 60 seconds to trigger a rate limit. This is still in beta though, part of the beta will involve testing these things and collecting data on how bots are working for our users. We'll see!
But you need to ask for order book 2400 times per minute per trading pair and as I know public asks has rate limits too. On some exchanges even more strict than private asks (f.e create order). Is your bot using some sort of proxy to bypass this hiding ip? |
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I would go for diversification on different casinos only but on many coins, I would go with the most stable which is Bitcoin.
Everyone is doing well so far, the other thread shows a positive return and this thread too, so investing is really profitable if we trust and hold our investment a bit.
Everyone has your attitude. Me too. That's why there is 180 BTC in bitcoin bankroll and only 18 BTC worth DOGE in DOGE bankroll. This affect in paying extra reward for bigger currency risk. And this risk/reward ratio for extra risk is quite fair. Yatsan has +14% starting from 13/05 in his BTC investment and i have +21% in my DOGE investment in the same time. And when you compare old investors data it is like 5x better while DOGE is on all time support (25-30 sat) |
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Topic updated.
Looks like you have +11.5% in 2 months and 16 days out of which +12.75% in last 18 days. This shows that everything below few months is burdened with a small sample error bigger than expected profit. Looks like <6 months investment is closer to gambling than I thought. Diversification to many casinos and many coins is a must have for <3 months investment to call it investment instead of gamble. I'm still in shock how TF someone was able to win 4000 LTC with max payout for single bet equal 45 LTC (0.5% of bankroll). 90 times win in a row? |
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Ohh its nice to see that you automated your bot. Now we can talk I don't understand why you have "exchange to buy on" and "exchange to sell on". If you are arbitrage trader it does not matter where you buy and where you sell. You take care only to have high enough spread to cover fees and provide extra profit. You want to buy on x and sell on y and even instantly after if there is good situation buy on y and sell on x to balance both wallets and repeat trade after trade. IMO it should be more like "tick the exchanges that you have liquidity on (exchanges on which you have coins/tokens that you want to arbitrage". If there is kraken/bittrex opportunity bot is taking it, if there is bittrex/binance opportunity bot takes that. Bot could compare prices on all ticked exchanges and do something like: take min ask out of all ticked exchanges and compare with max bid out of all ticked exhcnages and perform trade if spread >x% that can find and react to arbitrage spreads within 25 milliseconds!
On all exchanges? I'm asking because all of them have different rate limits. well given the number of exchanges and markets we support there is plenty of room for traders to not step on each other's toes. We support over 1,000 different combinations of trade pairs and exchanges.
What exchanges? And how about "triangular arbitrage" |
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To trochę tak jakby sami siebie w pozycji chcieli stawać, kto będzie uznawał co jest defi.
Doczytałem i jest troszkę inaczej. Binance wybrał według siebie liderów i na ich podstawie zrobił indeks. "The underlying asset of the DEFI Composite Index perpetual contract consists of a basket of decentralized finance (DeFi) protocol tokens listed on Binance. The index price is calculated using weighted averages of real time prices of the tokens on Binance. The DEFI Composite Index is denominated in USDT.
The index is made up of the following DeFi protocols: Band Protocol (BAND), Compound (COMP), Kava.io (KAVA), Kyber Network (KNC), Aave (LEND), Chainlink (LINK), Maker (MKR), Synthetic Network Token (SNX), Swipe (SXP), and 0x (ZRX)."Kalkulacje sa opisane tutaj (wagi poszczególnych tokenow itp) https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/53a02affc6dd481aa1c53c9eae480e94Prawdopodobnie indeks będzie się rozbudowywał/zmieniał na podstawie tego co się dzieje na rynku. Pewnie podobnie jak jest to realizowane z indeksami na regulowanych rynkach. Handel startuje za 25 min |
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Wciąż będąc zafascynowanym BNB, udało mi się przekroczyć próg, po którym jestem w posiadaniu reflinka z 20% kickback (20 % prowizji wraca do poleconego przeze mnie użytkownika). Jako, że nie mogę go wrzucić bezpośrednio tutaj do zapraszam chętnych do pisania do mnie PM. Wystarczy założyć nowe konto na binance przy użyciu mojego kodu by cieszyć się z niższych prowizji przy każdej transakcji.
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Oczywiście przehype'owane na dzień dzisiejszy i miejscami zagmatwane, ponadto wzrost popularności przyczynił się do znacznego wzrostu opłat transakcji ETH, ale tego chyba nie trzeba dodawać.
Zgadzam się. Przehypowane do granic możliwości. Nie dość, że każdy influencer nawija tylko o tym, to jeszcze: CMC ma specjalną kategorię DeFi:  Podczas, gdy są to zwyczajne nikomu niepotrzebne tokeny ETH, za którymi stoi piękna opowieść (a w rzeczywistości smart kontrakt znany od lat) i nic więcej. Bo ekonomia każdego z tych projektów mogłaby wykorzystywać dowolną juz istniejącą walutę do funkcjonowania (włączając samo ETH). Ale wtedy nie wyciągnęłoby milionów od inwestorów, oraz popularności na hypie związanym ze wzrostu cen, tylko musieliby budować zyski na użyteczności ... Jak np. etherdelta czy forkdelta znane od lat. A binance wystartował z pierwszym INDEKSEM (mam nadzieję, że nie ostatnim, bo już od dłuższego czasu mówiłem, że jest to niewykorzystana jeszcze nisza) DeFi, który pozwala na zagranie long/short na "cały" rynek DEFI jednym kontraktem - https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/ebee6da5df3946519fdb9ab27706d1a4?utm_source=BinanceTwitter&utm_medium=GlobalSocial&utm_campaign=GlobalSocialReklamuje swój nowy chain jako idealny do robienia DeFI - https://www.binance.org/en/blog/top-reasons-for-building-defi-on-binance-smart-chain/Każdy próbuje tylko wyrwać dla siebie parę groszy z tego hypu. A inwestorzy sponsorują. Ja nie widzę w tym rewolucji a raczej odgrzewanie kotletów z 2017 - 2018 roku (albo i dalej), które ubrano w nową kategorię i prezentuje się jako coś niesamowitego. ChainLink - oracle. Ile danych musiałby przerzucić ten projekt, ilu klientów pozyskać i jaki tłok wywołać na ETH by zarobić rocznie na tym 250 mln $? Przecież ETH się wcześniej rozerwie i to pewnie w 1/10 drogi do celu, a LINK to nie jedyny token na ETH. A tyle musiałby zarobić by zbliżyć się fundamentalnie (P/E) do średniej dla najbardziej przewartościowanego rynku jakim jest USA. Mam nadzieję, że się mylę i nie walnie to wszystko zaraz o 90% umaczając kolejnych inwestorów jak za czasów ICO. Oczywiście to może napuchnąć jeszcze 10x. Nikt nie przewidzi szczytu bańki. Tylko obecnie mamy do czynienia z hazardem a nie inwestowaniem. Pieniądze lubią ciszę (IDENA ciiii XD) |
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18% in 6 months is just impressive and the real profit you are making on holding the coins is in next level. You just doubled your fiat investment. It shows how beneficial the investment in coins you are holding get. The only downside of putting coins on gambling site is you can't just quickly trade them when you get a good price. The dilution fees generally makes us reluctant to put coins in and out missing even the larger fluctuations.
1- there is no dilution fee in yolodice 2- there is build in exchange that allow you to convert coins with quite fair fee (taking into account the fact that it is a casino and not an exchange) " The exchange rate is based on data from major exchanges and include a 3% — 4% fee." |
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But as far as I'm concerned, lots of other exchanges are also safe with low fees. I am already very happy with 2 of them (crypto.com and Kucoin)
Liquidity comes with volume. Same order made on kucoin will do 5x more damage and on crypto.com 10x pushing you into even bigger losses. No in fact they said it's because of low liquidity. It's not network latency, it's BECAUSE of my trade order, the market crashed.
Oh. I missed that. Sorry. But ... if your order crashed market it should not look like that:  Single trade. It should be multiple transactions with lower and lower price eating big after bid. Hmm looks like you sold on 0.14111 but price dumped to 0.136 triggering other traders stop losses. You lost but also made other loss even more. The only person that you profit from "make a donation" button is the one who is placing bid order so low that it is filled once per weeks. |
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And while we are at it, can anyone explain to me what is driving the people who are borrowing coins this way? I've been trying to come up with a single reason what's in it for the borrowers, and still can't wrap my head around it. If you have to provide 200% of collateral, how does all that make sense?
Seriously, what's the point?
Well that's some sort of stop-loss. You invest in small cap high risk coin (via dex because not traded on big exchanges) with 1000$ and borrow 500$ eth using your coin as collateral. Now if price drop 90% due to exit scam or something like that you will not loose more than 50% that you have in ETH (or dumped to USDT) already. The Dark Side of Crypto Lending
The sad truth about any such system is that the scheme is sustainable only in pretty narrow margins. To better see why it is so, let’s take a look at how it might fold, or, in other words, what would make it collapse. The answer is obvious, and it is the failure of the asset used as collateral. For example, if you borrow Ether and provide some token as a pledge, it is unlikely that your token will on average outperform the premier cryptocurrency you take on loan
However, it is almost a given that the collateral will crash way harder than the asset borrowed when the market starts to slide downhill. Realistically, it is only a matter of time till we see blood in the market. It essentially means that once the borrowers start to default en masse, no matter how overcollateralized the system was at first, it won’t suffice as no collateral will be worth anything at 0. The system enters the dreaded death spiral and eventually expires
Interesting point. Looks like we have another brick to the domino. Another because same thing we have with stop-losses, margin trading, leveraged tokens, derivatives with leverage. One trigger another. |
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