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2841  Economy / Goods / Re: I gots 5970's on: February 02, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
People are paying $480???   Or were these sold when bitcoins were at $5.25?  I'd consider $400.

I wish I had picked up that used one that sold for $325 on eBay.... =/

2842  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Complete Mining rigs w/ 4x 6950s! $1100 Ea+Shipping on: January 31, 2012, 09:26:18 AM
4x VGA SAPPHIRE|100312-1GS HD6950 1G - $220ea

they were selling new 2GB 6950's at microcenter for $199 just a week ago (granted, a lesser brand), but you can regularly find deals on them for $215 or less...  for new, unused cards

i didn't check the other prices after seeing that first one, so...  maybe they are fine, who knows


2843  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you consider stable? on: January 25, 2012, 10:36:57 AM
I have three 5830's  @ 955 core, 395 memory that have been running for 48hrs straight (*ed: only 48hrs since i'm still gradually increasing the overclocks.  they crashed @ 1000core after a few hrs.  so, i dropped it to 925 and have been working up since then).   max temp is 68o, ambient temp is, well, whatever it is in the garage at the moment, the fan is set on manual.... 68o should result in around 55% fan speed, I guess..  it was 75o outside the day before yesterday, which is when it hit that 68o (inside the garage the ambient was probably  ~80-85).  

i also use a small floor fan that blows into the case..
2844  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Phoenix/ATI High CPU Utilization on: January 25, 2012, 10:31:17 AM
2.1 is the best to use, purely from a bitcoin mining perspective.  The CPU bug is also fixed in 2.6
2845  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: How do I run a miner at half speed on: January 25, 2012, 10:28:25 AM
use phoenix and set aggression to 2
2846  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 5 BTC bounty....how to run Phoenix on Win7 64-bit on: January 25, 2012, 10:25:24 AM
i use phoenix rising v1.3 =p

is there a problem with running it on win7 64 bit?  *boggle*

yeah, you really shouldn't have card >80oC for extended periods of time

Just open the case,  buy some honeywell fan for $15 off newegg, and it shouldnt go above 70oC unless your ambient temp is over 90oF or so (even with GPU fans at 50%)
2847  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 5830 Dedicated Miner Problem on: January 25, 2012, 10:22:34 AM
Miner used? Settings used? 5830s require tweaking the miner's settings for optimal performance.
I'm using GUI Miner using the Phoenix Kernel.

My miner flags are:
Code:
-k phatk poclbm VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=12 worksize=128 FASTLOOP=false

use MSI Afterburner to set card to 950/385

use DOS command prompt

install the 12-21-11  of diapolo in phatk directory (http://www.mediafire.com/?r3n2m5s2y2b32d9), not the one from january

then in the directory where phoenix is located

phoenix -u http://xxx.xxx:xxx@x.x.x:xxxx/ -k phatk device=0 AGGRESSION=9 FASTLOOP=false VECTORS4 WORKSIZE=64

('phatk' being the subdirectory in 'kernels' where diapolo was installed to)

also, the 250 you mention on main computer is slow even.  5830 should be able to get 300 w/o problems
2848  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL Kernel (> 4% increase) for Phoenix - 2012-01-13 on: January 25, 2012, 02:43:20 AM
Underclock to 300-370mhz has never been best.  395 is faster.  Fastest?  Not sure.  
I'm glad you found the memory peak that worked for you. However your case is not the absolute correct answer (and is not common, most 5xxx/6xxx cards are at 300MHz), it is just your setup and what works for you; many things will affect performance and where the memory "sweet spot" will be:

GPU model/architecture,
GPU card memory bus/memory size,
GPU core overclock,
Operating System/32or64bit/video card driver,
OpenCL/APP SDK runtime installed on system,
Miner software,
Miner kernel (and it's particular optimizations),
Miner kernel parameters (worksize, vector size),
Compiler/SDK used to create miner,
Libraries installed on system (if running interpreted source)...

So there is no one right answer.
Hasn't been my experience, nor any of the other half a dozen people I know that run 5830 setups.  The decision is more along the lines of 'do I want to run the card cooler with a lower memory setting', vs 'do I want to run at 395mhz memory, but gain a few mhash?'.

I speak of 5830's exclusively.
2849  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: AMD Stream SDK 2.6 (Catalyst 11.12/12.1) - Get your performance back! (Phoenix) on: January 21, 2012, 07:50:11 PM
I'm having issues keeping my 2nd GPU busy.  Huh

Using the above method with the updated miner script for 2.6, I'm able to keep GPU1 at 99% utilization, but GPU2 bounces between 91-98% on my graph. I've put both on their own CPU to see if that would help but it doesn't seem to have an impact.

GUIMiner Settings on both:
-k phatk AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP=false VECTORS2 WORKSIZE=64

Has anyone tried the above with multiple GPU's??

Just switch to DiabloMiner or cgminer already.

i still use phoenix rising  v1.3, hoho
2850  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL Kernel (> 4% increase) for Phoenix - 2012-01-13 on: January 21, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Why is it so neccesarry for phatk kernal variations to have the memclock at 1k.... Some people cant deal with that extra heat...
This is something that has changed in SDK 2.6; The best performance at the best settings after trying all options comes at a GPU RAM speed of 1000MHz (stock speed for most cards) instead of at an underclock of 300MHz-370MHz. Version 2.6, included with driver 11.12 and 12.1, is significantly different in how it responds to worksizes, vector settings, and OpenCL programming than the previous SDKs.

It is a benefit in that one doesn't need oddly tweak memory speeds from stock to get the best performance (annoying to tell noobs over and over to underclock RAM), but bad in that this old quirk was actually an electricity saver if you did it.
Underclock to 300-370mhz has never been best.  395 is faster.  Fastest?  Not sure. 
2851  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: AMD Stream SDK 2.6 (Catalyst 11.12/12.1) - Get your performance back! (Phoenix) on: January 21, 2012, 07:17:52 PM
My card's highest possible mhash with 2.4-2.5 are at 1060/366Mhz with Phoenix 1.7.2 (exe) phatk2 VECTORS AGGRESSION=13 FASTLOOP=False WORKSIZE=256. The odd 366MHz optimal RAM speed differs on 6xxx, 5850, and 57xx, where 300MHz is where the peak performance is usually found.

Lets see what we find, I was curious what Diapolo's new 2011-12-21 kernel could do, so lots of Phoenix 1.7.2 benchmarks with different kernels, worksize, and RAM speeds (the scaling is similar to standard phatk2), tests were ran for several minutes and shares (unless the setting was obviously poor), with the -a averaging option:

SDK 2.6/11.12 (12.1 is identical)
worksize:25612864
DiapoloVECTORS2366MHz332.99327.86321.16
DiapoloVECTORS21000MHz326.03327.90325.99
DiapoloVECTORS4366MHz219298329.74
DiapoloVECTORS41000MHz255278216
phatk2VECTORS366MHz307.37306.78297.25
phatk2VECTORS1000MHz300.87304.61298.81
phatk2VECTORS4366MHz217.42289.25288.78
phatk2VECTORS41000MHz262.69339.5340.21
phatkVECTORS366MHz326323.5315.3
phatkVECTORS1000MHz317321.2320.5


5830, SDK 2.6 (10.0.851.6)

Diapolo from December 12th, 2011

1060 core, 385 memory (phoenix 1.7.2)

phoenix -k phatk device=1 AGGRESSION=11 fastloop=false VECTORS4 WORKSIZE=64 -a 1000

332.96

395 raises it another point or so.  Never tried 399.

Not going to run my card at 1060 core and 1000 memory setting.  I imagine the ~2% gain you have listed here is more than offset by energy costs associated w/ cooling (and wear and tear on the card, theoretically resulting in faster depreciation of the value of the equipment)

I usually run it at 1000/385.

(ed: for comparison, back in June or so when I put my score on the 'Mining Hardware comparison' wiki page, I got 334, with 1030 core and 385 memory...   but it's worth it for a multi-card setup, anyway...  don't have that core getting smashed 100% anymore)

(ed2:  same thing at 399 memory setting - [335.09 Mhash/sec] [18 Accepted] [0 Rejected] [RPC (+LP)])

2852  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: January 14, 2012, 12:48:37 AM
Well, this is my 5th post.  Besides that, Date Registered:   June 08, 2011, 09:20:04 AM... and I started mining on bitcoinpool in May.
2853  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: re: AMD Stream SDK 2.6 (Catalyst 11.12/12.1) - Get your performance back! on: January 14, 2012, 12:39:30 AM
just thought I'd add that I have card one at 6 aggression, card 2 at 9 aggression.. for a while now.

card 1 has 4630 shares, card 2 has 3880 shares

oh, and 395 is the best memory setting, not 366
2854  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Electricity cost where you live/mine? on: January 12, 2012, 03:58:52 PM
I pay .095c, but there are cheaper options available  (I believe the lowest is ~.075c), although I  suspect they're less reliable (subject to brownouts etc)...  

But if I had a large setup using tons of electricity, there'd be those discounts for high use...  like over 5000kwh would be 8c with my current provider.

ed: (northeast texas, and "Bounce Energy" is 6.9c)    http://www.electricitybid.com/counties/henderson.php
2855  Other / Beginners & Help / re: AMD Stream SDK 2.6 (Catalyst 11.12/12.1) - Get your performance back! on: January 07, 2012, 12:13:08 PM
re: AMD Stream SDK 2.6 (Catalyst 11.12/12.1) - Get your performance back! (Phoenix) in the Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Mining > Mining software (miners) section..

On my 5830, I've been able to get the following results with 1030 core, 395 memory setting (ed: oh, this is with 12.1 installed):

C:\Bitcoin\PhoenixMiner3>phoenix -u hxxp://xxx:xxx@xxx:xxx/ -k phatk device=0 AGGRESSION=6 fastloop=false VECTORS4 WORKSIZE=64
[07/01/2012 05:53:23] Phoenix v1.7.2 starting...
[07/01/2012 05:53:23] Connected to server
[07/01/2012 05:53:26] Result: 30498c22 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:53:28] Result: 8a32ebba accepted
[07/01/2012 05:53:33] Result: 0f23d202 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:54:03] Result: 43cb913a accepted
[07/01/2012 05:54:03] Result: b396e606 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:54:26] Result: f454a5e5 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:54:37] Result: 85485c84 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:54:57] Result: 4d36d8d2 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:09] Result: 2375c7e7 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:39] Result: 2e624f87 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:46] Result: 304d0ac8 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:51] Result: 74cc1d7d accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:56] Result: 771726f0 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:55:59] Result: 929b110c accepted
[07/01/2012 05:56:16] Result: 4c9837c2 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:56:40] Result: 7cf4b050 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:56:54] Result: 5392f8e9 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:56:58] Result: 30ef980e accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:01] Result: bc91d2e3 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:07] LP: New work pushed
[07/01/2012 05:57:28] Result: d5c12c1f accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:29] Result: e8c9e562 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:44] Result: 65359092 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:48] Result: 6074961e accepted
[07/01/2012 05:57:55] Result: 2cfb5520 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:09] Result: 15d50178 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:16] Result: 48f30dcd accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:30] Result: 9ffb22b0 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:36] Result: c0ae45be accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:46] Result: 141e18b2 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:49] Result: c8b7e357 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:58:55] Result: ebde70bb accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:26] Result: 4a2921e0 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:34] Result: 94444d85 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:43] Result: a9442643 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:51] Result: 5d61847a accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:51] Result: a0f27b00 accepted
[07/01/2012 05:59:58] Result: 8875e97e accepted
[07/01/2012 06:00:07] Result: 14cf3802 accepted
[07/01/2012 06:00:15] Result: aa795e52 accepted
[356.51 Mhash/sec] [39 Accepted] [0 Rejected] [RPC (+LP)]

Maybe just a display error?  It bounces between 356 and 335'ish... with the -a 1000 flag, it gets ~345mhash.  This is with the diapolo 2011-12-21 kernel.  

I have an old result on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

5830   334   -      -   1030   -   2.4   PCI-E 2.1 x16   phoenix 1.50 / phatk 2.0 / Win7 64   Stock voltage, 385Mhz Memory, VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT -- (upped from 330 achieved with diapolo mod here), now using phatk 2.0 found here

the 'here's being links.  I achieve the best results using aggression 6 or 7, if one is to believe what phoenix is telling me. Odd.

2856  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s on: June 08, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
im doing 300 mhashes for each 5830 card via xfx or sapphire with phoenix -phatk.

now on my testbed machine, HAF 922 with 3x sapphire 5830s, check out the temps:

1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\

I have a similar issue w/ two cards, but not so bad.  I have to have my sound card squeezed between my two 5830's so the top card has little airflow.   I just open the case up and put a small floor fan angled to blow air out the back... works wonders.  Probably doesn't even cost a whole lot more in electricity either, since you can lower the fan speed on your cards quite a bit.    Like when my cards were running 63o/72o, that floor fan dropped them to 60o/64o within a minute.  Just like some $15 fan or something that doesn't draw a huge amt of power.

The highest I've ever gotten on my 5830 was ~330 (1050 core).  That only lasted about a few minutes before it froze though, haha.  It'll run "stable" at 1030 core as long as I do absolutely nothing else with my computer, at about 318-319.
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