I really have a doubt - there is a single guy running this faucet, there should be a gang of mathematicians and coders...
A single and guy a few helpers..... and we're all quite good at maths. |
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70 eth for the max bet? Are for sure No. That is what it says in the faq but read Lutpin's answers above for a fuller explanation. It's more complex on roulette because you can place multiple bets on the same spin. Maximum win per field is 50 ETH.
Edited to spell Lutpin's name correctly before he kills me. |
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Correct, I buy back 10% every 3 months (though I actually own 70% now with buying back more than needed, hence why i'm selling). Are you buying back 10% of each investors holdings? Or 10% of total tokens out there? If those selling tokens exceed 10% how do you decide on which ones to buy and which to defer until the next 3 months? I buy back 10% of all tokens out there. To sell back to me you need to deposit 10x the tokens you wish to sell on the site at buy back date. That sounds good but what if 12% of all tokens out there are deposited at the buy back date? How do you decide or select who gets their tokens cashed and who does not? Read back what he just said. If 12% of tokens were deposited he would buy 10% of the 12% ie. 1.2% of all tokens. Everyone always gets to sell 10% of what they deposit. |
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Well, it sound silly with 10 bots, but if he sneaks 1000 past your detection system and he gets interest on all his $100 deposits, then the risk decrease over time. At the current Bitcoin price, this guy can get +/- $40 interest for every $100 deposited for a year. So while the 1000 bots are running undetected, they pay interest back to the bot owner to reduce the risk. So, with $100 000 deposited into 1000 different accounts, he would get +/- $11 interest per day from all those accounts. <4% interest> So after day 10, his first account is risk free, because he made back his $100 and day 20 for another and 30 for another........ See what I am saying? He might even do this risk free, if he just deposited the $100 000 worth of Bitcoin into one botfree account and channel that interest to his Botfund to fund a new bot account every 10 days.  So someone is going to risk losing $100,000 if we can prove that they are multi-accounting? These guys wouldn't risk losing $0.01 of their own money. The bottom line is $100 is the level that makes it not worth doing for the return you would get from the faucet. |
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I think you missed what I was trying to say.  .... If the bot owner transfers $100 to each of his 10 bots and run them 24/7, then he would get Freerolls every hour with 10 bots without being bothered by by these Captchas. So the Capthas cannot stop these bots from doing this. A clever bot will not do this 24/7, because your detection system will detect that, so they only run it say 10 times a day. If this is successful and this guy can do this with say, 1000 bots and he builds a referral system, then this can become quite profitable over time.  I am missing what you trying to say. Are you suggesting a bot operator would start off with by trusting us with $1000 to run 10 bots? We wouldn't even notice that we're too busy dealing with the guys that run tens of thousands up into the hundreds of thousands. |
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which are missing for a appropriate service infrastructure.
Again, do you have anything to back up that claim with? I've been using this service regularly for a long time and I'm endorsing it by renting them my advertising space because it is a high-quality product. |
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So you are saying it is still possible for them to use bot in order to abuse the faucet?
I've said that repeatedly. Just Google 'captcha solver' and you'll see what is available on the retail market. Some of the botnets also have the own solutions. A few months back when we introduced half base rewards for accounts that almost never do anything but claim the faucet one of the big retail captcha solve services halved their prices in response. Lets say I have 10 account, I should deposit $1,000 but I never use my deposit right? So it is like long term investment plus we can get daily interest from your site as well. I think it is pretty worth for the faucet abuser to it but they use 100k bot, I do not think it is still worth or not
You would also need 10 IP addresses and that'll probably cost more than you are going to get out of the faucet and you'd also risk getting caught for multi-accounting. Botnets have access to millions of IP addresses so the cost per address is trivial. |
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the website looks fancy but the technology behind seems unstable and following the quick and dirty approach.
Based on what? A bitcoind getting stuck a couple of times in 6 months? furthermore the Bitcoin "chips" are NOT freshly new minted coins which they could be if the apporach would be clean and consistent.
That's a misconception of 'clean' money. ChipMixer breaks the link between your deposit and withdrawal by giving you chips that were funded before you deposited. The idea that where those chips were funded from can make them 'not clean' is complete nonsense in the same way that what the $20 dollar bill in your pocket has previously been used for can make it 'not clean' and suggesting to use only freshly printed bank notes is nonsense. |
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Having had a look at the image you sent me you first went to the signup page using someone's referral link which is why it will sign you up under their referral link. If you really want to stiff the person that referred you try using an incognito window. There is however no advantage in doing this to you.
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I know. Is there any reason to post that here? |
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explain that such PM
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explain to me how this could have happened, I registered with a clean account with no referral. And now it turns out that I'm under referral. And what to do.
Explain to me how you know you are under a referral. Then PM me the user IDs so I can take a look. now I can't use BTC address and email address for pure registration.
A BTC address is not required for registration. Only one account is allowed per email address. |
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ADMIN IS ALWAYS DELETING POST EVEN WHEN THEY ARE ON TOPIC....
THEYMOS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT IF IT IS ON TOPIC AND IT IS PUBLIC INFO THEN IT IS OK TO POST
Really? <...>
1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
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Note to moderators: When you do nuke that idiot please delete this as well. |
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There is no bug in the autobet and it has been used to place billions of bets without error. It is most likely that you didn't set it up correctly to do what you thought.
Huh, isnt that weird. Someone lost everything using YOUR bot. Damn snake oil salezmen and their convoluted UI's designed to make people lose. Use a real bot that is so simple to setup that all you have to do is run it and thats it. No "setup" required. Auto-bet is extremely simple to use. It's not uncommon for people to try and get a refund by inventing a bug when they lose. I agree that bots can be a great alternative to auto-bet and provided you take all the basic precautions that are essential for everyone handing Bitcoin to ensure their safety. They can be a lot of fun but untrusted 3rd party applications should always be fully scrutinised before use. Never use a bot that you cannot compile yourself. The source code should be available to inspect before you risk compiling and running it on your computer. If that is not the case you cannot guarantee that it doesn't contain malware that could steal your funds or even a keylogger that could compromise every other account you own. Seuntjies DiceBot meets that requirement: https://bot.seuntjie.com/He's also very honest about what his bot can do: https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos |
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I think you are criticising a valid business model as if it were somehow a negative. Theres some business risk by the company to operate but they have been around a while and I see no reason to assume they are negative in serving customers. It doesnt resemble a pyramid scheme. Depositing your crypto anywhere has a risk attached to it but its a flat consideration to using every site isnt it
He's criticising it because he's too thick to understand why a casino would incentivise its customers to deposit. He just keeps repeating the same verbal diarrhoea no matter how many times his stupidity is pointed out to him. He obviously is also completely ignorant as to what a pyramid scheme is. It's not worth the effort of explaining it to him again because he doesn't have the basic cognitive functions required to comprehend the answers given to him. Casinos obviously need to have large sums available to payout to big winners. Over time it all evens out as others will lose but a high roller can make a tempory impact. Comparing that to a pyramid scheme really shows a level of ignorance that is outstanding. It makes me wonder how someone could be so lacking in self-awareness to continually make such a dick of themselves in public by talking about subjects they have no knowledge of without feeling any embarrassment. You're right about the risks involved in depositing at any Bitcoin site. Reputations are built up over time and we've been going nearly 5 years now so people will judge us on our actions over that time. Its in googles own interest to make sure people viewing sites connected to them are humans so that advertising is valid. Its heavily destructive to their business model if the page traffic is artificial and there is no consumer behind the screen viewing advertising google might supply. Or even if not direct advertising, google still wants to know the entity they are tracking is a human not a bot so thats a big incentive to them to discourage that kind of activity. Obviously FreeBitco doesnt want bots harvesting easy money either. Its only twitter or twitch I see people actively chasing and paying for bot usage to create an illusion of greater influence then they actually have
For sites that carry advertising that is another reason for Google to provide reCAPTCHA for free as well as the data harvesting. For us, it imposes a cost on the botnets. They either pay catcha solve services currently charging around $1 per 1000 solves or run their own solvers. That's a very resource intensive activity so a similar cost is involved. That cost is really the limiting factor in how much we can give per roll to free players. We can give far higher rewards to players that deposit and play for obvious reasons. |
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How does keeping a high amount in your account to remove reCAPTCHA, stop bots from operating? Can the accounts that use bots, not do the same to avoid it or does that increase their risk to lose that amount, if they are flagged? Do these accounts with the bots, re-create new accounts often? Just thinking of ways to slow down the bots, because I doubt if reCAPTCHA would be capable to stop the high quality bots.  Just simple maths. It takes $100 per account to remove captcha so a guy running 100,000 unit botnet would need to deposit $10,000,000 to do it. I reality they would never risk a single cent. Captcha doesn't stop bots but it imposes an extra cost to run them. |
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5BTC per field (or to be more accurate per single type of bet, every stack of chips you place has their own max win), I'm just confused by this bit. On a bet like this:  I get that the limit is 5 BTC win for the single on 23. Is the limit for the 4 corner bets all covering 23 combined to total 5 BTC or 5 BTC for each bet? |
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so basically copper member and junior member has a similar privilege when it comes to making post correct?
Because we are planning to create long announcement ICO with pictures, so we are thinking of getting copper member if it take too long to get to junior member
It will allow you to post pictures without waiting to become a Jr. Member. The maximum character limit for a post is the same for everyone. |
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