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2861  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 27, 2014, 08:31:40 AM
Betabit goes from NR to "F".

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Betabit F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
Webetcoins F

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
altbetfair
finalstake
Asianconnect88
Premiumtradings

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

2862  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 27, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
DirectBet
Quote
EDIT : Peeps Place removed the spam advertisement.

edit- It wasn't spam. Lines were listed from books as a comparison to the odds on the SC NCAA game. DirectBet has -454/+285. His hold is much greater than the others and that was posted.

Those books are rated "A", "B+", "B-" and "C". No one pays for ratings.



2863  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 27, 2014, 05:07:55 AM
Are you planning to add spreads, totals and alternate lines for NCCA football?







2864  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 26, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
Problems at Betabit

ctlaltdefeat
Quote
A week without any contact is absolutely unacceptable.
There is a withdrawal pending on my account (someone hacked me) for a week now, which I would like to CANCEL (I sent a support message the same day).

minnlo
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How much you have on the site?

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Around 0.4
It's weird because I think I was one of their few pretty active players and I think they put more effort into everything than to just scam for a bitcoin or two




2865  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 26, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
I looked at books with bonus from your list. I've just read betOWI bonus conditions. Do I understand correctly that it has 32x rollover? Shocked (On a $500 deposit with a $1,000 bonus and $200 winnings, the rollover requirement is $19,000 ($500 deposit + $1000 bonus = $1,500 x 32 = $48,000)...)
32x rollover requirement is absurd. I like Jetwin 5x and Anonibet up to 10% rebate. After that I like Cloudbet. I wish Cloudbet would go to rollover instead of loyalty points. It seems to take a lot of action to have the bonus released and is somewhat confusing. Then there's a bonus at BetVIP 10x deposit + bonus.



Thanks for the information. 5x rollover sounds better Grin In case of Anonibet I will get some money if I am a loser only. I don't quite understand this Cloudbet's loyalty points, but I wrote to their thread. Hope to receive the answer soon.

To clarify, the bonus at BetVIP is a 100% first deposit bonus up to 1 BTC - the rollover terms are 5x (deposit + bonus) not 10x as above Smiley

Kind regards,
Jessica
BetVIP Support
Thanks for the clarification.
2866  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Sports Betting on: August 26, 2014, 05:51:34 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
Webetcoins F

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
Asianconnect88
Premiumtradings

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0
2867  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Sports Betting on: August 26, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Anyone here have any experience with BitBM?  www.bitbm.com




I've played with them and didn't have any problems. There seems to be an association with a fiat book that had problems thus the "D+" rating.
2868  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 26, 2014, 04:26:48 AM
More of you books should put up rotation numbers. On Saturdays with full cards Americans are use to having rotation numbers. Too many games to be searching by team name or time. European books don't but them up but all the fiat books in Costa Rica use rotation numbers for the NFL, NCAA football and hoops. It makes it easy to compare lines at other books.


Week 1 NCAA football :

College Football   Spread   Money Line   Total Points   
Texas A&M at South Carolina
Thu 8/28       133 Texas A&M   
          
6:00PM       134 South Carolina               
Wake Forest at UL Monroe
Thu 8/28       135 Wake Forest               
7:00PM       136 UL Monroe               
Tulane at Tulsa
Thu 8/28       137 Tulane               
8:00PM       138 Tulsa               
Mississippi vs Boise State, in Atlanta
Thu 8/28       139 Mississippi               
8:00PM       140 Boise State               
Temple at Vanderbilt
Thu 8/28       141 Temple               
9:15PM       142 Vanderbilt               
Rutgers at Washington State
Thu 8/28       143 Rutgers               
10:00PM       144 Washington State               
BYU at Connecticut
Fri 8/29       145 BYU              
7:00PM       146 Connecticut                
Bowling Green at Western Kentucky
Fri 8/29       147 Bowling Green                
7:30PM       148 Western Kentucky               
Colorado State vs Colorado, in Denver
Fri 8/29       149 Colorado State               
9:00PM       150 Colorado            
Texas San Antonio at Houston U
Fri 8/29       151 Texas San Antonio           
9:00PM       152 Houston U               
UNLV at Arizona U
Fri 8/29       153 UNLV           
10:30PM       154 Arizona U                
Penn State vs Central Florida, in Dublin
Sat 8/30       155 Penn State            
8:30AM       156 Central Florida               
Ohio State vs Navy, in Baltimore
Sat 8/30       157 Ohio State               
12:00PM       158 Navy               
UCLA at Virginia
Sat 8/30       159 UCLA               
12:00PM       160 Virginia               
Appalachian State at Michigan
Sat 8/30       161 Appalachian State           
12:00PM       162 Michigan               
Troy at UAB
Sat 8/30       163 Troy               
12:00PM       164 UAB               
California at Northwestern
Sat 8/30       165 California               
3:30PM       166 Northwestern               
Georgia Southern at NC State
Sat 8/30       167 Georgia Southern                
12:30PM       168 NC State               
Florida Atlantic at Nebraska
Sat 8/30       169 Florida Atlantic           
3:30PM       170 Nebraska            
Boston College at Massachusetts
Sat 8/30       171 Boston College               
3:00PM       172 Massachusetts               
Marshall at Miami Ohio
Sat 8/30       173 Marshall               
3:30PM       174 Miami Ohio               
Rice at Notre Dame
Sat 8/30       175 Rice            
3:30PM       176 Notre Dame               
Alabama vs West Virginia, in Atlanta
Sat 8/30       177 Alabama               
3:30PM       178 West Virginia               
Arkansas at Auburn
Sat 8/30       179 Arkansas               
4:00PM       180 Auburn               
Clemson at Georgia
Sat 8/30       181 Clemson               
5:30PM       182 Georgia               
Ohio U at Kent State
Sat 8/30       183 Ohio               
6:00PM       184 Kent State                
Louisiana Tech at Oklahoma
Sat 8/30       185 Louisiana Tech                
7:00PM       186 Oklahoma               
Western Michigan at Purdue
Sat 8/30       187 Western Michigan                
12:00PM       188 Purdue               
Idaho at Florida
Sat 8/30       189 Idaho                
7:00PM       190 Florida                
Fresno State at USC
Sat 8/30       191 Fresno State               
7:30PM       192 USC            
Southern Mississippi at Mississippi State
Sat 8/30       193 Southern Mississippi               
7:30PM       194 Mississippi State               
Washington U at Hawaii
Sat 8/30       195 Washington U               
10:30PM       196 Hawaii               
Florida State vs Oklahoma State, in Arlington
Sat 8/30       197 Florida State              
8:00PM       198 Oklahoma State              
North Texas at Texas
Sat 8/30       199 North Texas                
8:00PM       200 Texas   
Sat 8/30       201 UTEP              
8:00PM       202 New Mexico           
LSU vs Wisconsin, in Houston
Sat 8/30       203 LSU                
9:00PM       204 Wisconsin                
Utah State at Tennessee U
Sun 8/31       205 Utah State                
7:00PM       206 Tennessee U                
SMU at Baylor
Sun 8/31       207 SMU                
7:30PM       208 Baylor               
Miami Florida at Louisville
Mon 9/1       209 Miami Florida                
8:00PM       210 Louisville                
Abilene Christian at Georgia State
Wed 8/27       301 Abilene Christian   
          
7:00PM       302 Georgia State   
          
Eastern Illinois at Minnesota U
Thu 8/28       303 Eastern Illinois     
              
7:00PM       304 Minnesota U   
              
Howard at Akron
Thu 8/28       305 Howard                  
7:00PM       306 Akron                
Presbyterian at Northern Illinois
Thu 8/28       307 Presbyterian                   
7:00PM       308 Northern Illinois                   
Chattanooga at Central Michigan
Thu 8/28       309 Chattanooga                  
7:00PM       310 Central Michigan                   
Idaho State at Utah
Thu 8/28       311 Idaho State   
Cal Poly at New Meixco State
Thu 8/28       313 Cal Poly                   
8:00PM       314 New Mexico State               
North Dakota at San Jose State
Thu 8/28       315 North Dakota               
10:00PM       316 San Jose State                
Weber State at Arizona State
Thu 8/28       317 Weber State                    
10:30PM       318 Arizona State                   
Villanova at Syracuse
Fri 8/29       319 Villanova                  
7:30PM       320 Syracuse                  
Jacksonville State at Michigan State
Fri 8/29       321 Jacksonville State                  
7:30PM       322 Michigan State                    
North Dakota State at Iowa State
Sat 8/30       323 North Dakota State                    
12:00PM       324 Iowa State                    
Delaware at Pittsburgh U
Sat 8/30       325 Delaware                   
12:00PM       326 Pittsburgh U                   
Tennessee-Martin at Kentucky
Sat 8/30       327 Tennessee-Martin                    
12:00PM       328 Kentucky                   
Youngstown State at Illinois
Sat 8/30       329 Youngstown State                   
12:00PM       330 Illinois                    
Indiana State at Indiana
Sat 8/30       331 Indiana State                   
12:00PM       332 Indiana                  
Northern Iowa at Iowa
Sat 8/30       333 Northern Iowa                   
12:00PM       334 Iowa                   
James Madison at Maryland
Sat 8/30       335 James Madison                    
3:30PM       336 Maryland                    
Wofford at Georgia Tech
Sat 8/30       337 Wofford                    
12:30PM       338 Georgia Tech                    
Colgate at Ball State
Sat 8/30       339 Colgate                   
2:00PM       340 Ball State                   
Nicholls State at Air Force
Sat 8/30       341 Nicholls State                   
2:00PM       342 Air Force                  
Southern Utah at Nevada
Sat 8/30       343 Southern Utah                   
3:00PM       344 Nevada                   
William & Mary at Virginia Tech
Sat 8/30       345 William & Mary                    
3:30PM       346 Virginia Tech                   
Duquesne at Buffalo U
Sat 8/30       347 Duquesne                    
3:30PM       348 Buffalo U                   
South Dakota State at Missouri
Sat 8/30       349 South Dakota State                    
3:30PM       350 Missouri                    
Montana at Wyoming
Sat 8/30       351 Montana                   
4:00PM       352 Wyoming                   
Portland State at Oregon State
Sat 8/30       353 Portland State                    
4:00PM       354 Oregon State                   
UC Davis at Stanford
Sat 8/30       355 UC Davis                   
4:00PM       356 Stanford                   
Elon at Duke
Sat 8/30       357 Elon                   
6:00PM       358 Duke                   
Liberty at North Carolina
Sat 8/30       359 Liberty                   
6:00PM       360 North Carolina                   
Morgan State at Eastern Michigan
Sat 8/30       361 Morgan State                   
6:00PM       362 Eastern Michigan                   
Austin Peay at Memphis
Sat 8/30       363 Austin Peay                   
7:00PM       364 Memphis                    
Western Carolina at South Florida
Sat 8/30       365 Western Carolina                   
7:00PM       366 South Florida                   
Samford at TCU
Sat 8/30       367 Samford                   
7:00PM       368 TCU               
Central Arkansas at Texas Tech
Sat 8/30       369 Central Arkansas                  
7:00PM       370 Texas Tech                   
New Hampshire at Toledo
Sat 8/30       371 New Hampshire                   
7:00PM       372 Toledo                   
Northern Arizona at San Diego State
Sat 8/30       373 Northern Arizona                   
7:00PM       374 San Diego State               
Montana State at Arkansas State
Sun 8/31       375 Montana State                   
7:00PM       376 Arkansas State                  
Southern University at UL Lafayette
Sun 8/31       377 Southern University                   
7:00PM       378 UL Lafayette                   
Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Texas State
Sun 8/31       379 Arkansas-Pine Bluff                   
7:00PM       380 Texas State                   
Bethune Cookman at Florida International
Sat 8/30       381 Bethune Cookman                   
7:00PM       382 Florida International                   
Savannah State at Middle Tennessee
Sat 8/30       383 Savannah State                  
7:00PM       384 Middle Tennessee                   
Hampton at Old Dominion
Sat 8/30       385 Hampton                   
3:30PM       386 Old Dominion                   
Stephen F. Austin at Kansas State
Sun 8/31       387 Stephen F. Austin                  
7:10PM       388 Kansas State                   
North Carolina Central at East Carolina
Sun 8/31       389 North Carolina Central                  
8:00PM       390 East Carolina                   
South Dakota at Oregon
Sun 8/31       391 South Dakota               
10:30PM       392 Oregon
2869  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 26, 2014, 01:13:37 AM
Nitrogen has a free Survivor Pool. 1 BTC to the winner. They have 7 other buy in pools.

Quote
Nitrogen Sports NFL Survivor Pool
Welcome to the first Nitrogen Sports NFL Survivor Pool! Be the last bettor standing by correctly picking the winner of one professional NFL football game each week. The catch? You may only pick each team once during the season.

The last bettor(s) remaining win the prize for their pool!

The rules are simple:

1) Join the pool by clicking 'Join Pool', and then 'Confirm Join'
2) Any time before the first game of each week, make your pick for a team who will win (first week picks close Thursday, Sept 4, 2014)
3) Each week following, continue to pick another winning team from the teams left available - you'll only be able to choose each team once
4) Be the last bettor standing, and win the pool!

Want some extra tips? Check our our blog post on survivor pools:
https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/nfl-survivor-pools/

*** See full details / rules at the bottom of the page before joining a pool!
2870  Economy / Gambling / Re: Let's work together on DirectBet on: August 25, 2014, 08:35:41 PM
DirectBet and PeepsPlace. This threat is not made for discussions. Therefore I will delete all of your posts in which you discussed.
sorry about that.
2871  Economy / Gambling / Re: Let's work together on DirectBet on: August 25, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
If you are looking for a free bet, why wouldn't you just take a 100% bonus at another book?
2872  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 25, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
I looked at books with bonus from your list. I've just read betOWI bonus conditions. Do I understand correctly that it has 32x rollover? Shocked (On a $500 deposit with a $1,000 bonus and $200 winnings, the rollover requirement is $19,000 ($500 deposit + $1000 bonus = $1,500 x 32 = $48,000)...)
32x rollover requirement is absurd. Jetwin is 5x and Anonibet up to 10% rebate. Then there's a bonus at BetVIP 5x deposit + bonus. Although this is a nice bonus, their hold is high. After that there's Cloudbet but they should go to rollover instead of loyalty points. It seems to take a lot of action to have the bonus released and is somewhat confusing. I like Cloudbet as a book over BetVIP.

2873  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 25, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
Books- Why the lack of NFL futures?


Nitrogen:
Team Wins
Division
Conference
SuperBowl

Betcoinsports:
Team Wins
Division
Conference
SuperBowl

Cloudbet:
Super Bowl
2874  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 24, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
How do you contact bitbm? I tried depositing but their site kinda failed. Now I'm trying to contact them and their site is failing again.

http://bitbm.com/contact.html

Let me know if they don't reply.
Site doesn't work, but they did reply over email tho it isn't obvious what their email is.
What's happening with the site? It's up for me right now.
2875  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 23, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
Dear Peeps,

Would also like to advise you that Anonibet offers Badminton as well as Pessapallo, these sports are not on your spreadsheet.

Regards,

John

done, thanks

2876  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 23, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
How do you contact bitbm? I tried depositing but their site kinda failed. Now I'm trying to contact them and their site is failing again.

http://bitbm.com/contact.html

Let me know if they don't reply.
2877  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 23, 2014, 08:05:05 AM
I should add that I've never Live bet on the site.

If you place your bets before the start of the game you should rarely encounter a rejection.

Please PM me your rejected bet IDs, I'd like to look into it.

You say that you get 80% rejections. Something is not right. I'd really appreciate if you can send me the bet IDs.

If you had a deposit feature, I'd be able to get in more bets. It's frustrating to lose so many.

You can use the Negotiate Odds feature to first deposit the bet and then get it confirmed immediately.

This is explained in more details here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830

Although you don't really need to do that pre-game. It's mainly useful in-play when you are not sure whether your bet transfer will be sent out immediately.

'Negotiate Odds' is a great feature for advanced users. It provides you with better control over your bets and if you are willing to spend some time it can be used to obtain higher odds for your bets, on average.

In regards to your comments I'd like to point out that if your bet did not confirm and you want to put it on hold you can simply set the minimum odds to an unrealistic number. This will prevent you from ending up with double bets.

Also note that if the line moves back and as a result your bet is confirmed, the confirmed odds are set to the best available odds at the time, which in many cases would be higher than the minimum odds that you specified.

The Negotiate Odds also allows you to lock in better odds even if they get there for just a short period of time, something that you might not be able to do manually.


 Untrue and misleading. If you do get better odds it's that there has been a change in the game that's in favor of DirectBet. The odds have changed everywhere and the player is getting odds that are much worse than market price.
2878  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 23, 2014, 06:06:38 AM
Books -  I have check marks for those with live betting but would like to get a little more specific.

Who is going to have live betting for the NFL? Live betting for soccer? Live betting for NCAA football? NBA? NCAA hoops? NHL? Other European markets?  Will it be every commercial break or continuous? What are the max limits for live betting?

I'm sure that I'm missing mobile betting on the spread sheet for a few books. You can check in if you aren't listed a category that should be checked. You can post it in this thread or PM. Each one is fine by me. PM with any concerns that you don't want posted publicly. PMs stay confidential.

Players - Still looking for feedback on the exchanges.

 

2879  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 23, 2014, 06:01:02 AM
Pocketrockets has a max limit of .2 BTC

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Yes there are low limits at the moment compared to the total investment mostly due to the lower traffic we had during the world cup and while I worked on more features, including allowing splitting investment between sports/dice/casino/all. I switched priority to dice over the past month though.

The return on sports obviously has the potential to be much larger than 1% you get on dice and the traffic will grow for it in time.
2880  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 23, 2014, 04:54:03 AM
If I were going to bet on the Mariners vs. Boston baseball game and I chose the Mariners, does the @1.92 mean that I would win 192% of my bet back. And if I were to bet on the other thing that wasn't the money and it says SEA -1.5 @ 2.44 would that mean I win 244% of my bet back? Can someone explain this to me please?

If you bet $1 @ 1.92 then you would get $1.92 back so you would win $.92
If you bet $1 @ 2.44 then you would get $2.44 back so you would win $1.44

If you are more familiar with American odds, then you can switch. On the bottom right above where is says bitcoin, click decimal and it will switch to American odds.

I'm not very familiar with either one. The SEA -1.5 @ 2.44 is in a different category than the money line. So the money line is just whoever wins you get that amount back?
Sea would have to win by 2 runs or more for you to win. Then betting $1 would win you $1.44.
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