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28601  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: So, only one Bitcoin miner on market right now. on: September 06, 2016, 03:26:16 AM
Why keep it for themselves though? When they can make a killing producing one  from a low cost then put an exorbitant pricetag on it for people to buy. People will still buy them anyway, as long as the miner pushes for more THS than the last one, the buying public will see it and be blind to the price.

You don't go to a gun fight with a knife.

No one really fights bitmaintech with ASIC sales.  So no one has been able to release a better cheaper miner.

So Avalon builds a close miner and sells it at a higher price so as not to offer real competition.

Bitfury builds in house gear and avoids it all together .   The best most competitive way to mine btc is with a gpu rig...
I think this is what's driving people out of bitcoin mining- there's pretty much no more competition left and no more smaller stick or usb based miners made by any official company anymore; GPU mining is a lot cheaper and has a much higher resale value, and Bitcoin's losing quite a few people to altcoins like Ethereum. I'm not jumping ship yet, but the next few months will definitely be interesting. I see bitmain as the only asic provider in the future.

Yeah I have 5 s-9 cost me over 8k

I have 21 gpu's Mining ETH and XMR. I Spent less then 8k . I use 1/2 the power  and right now I am earning more by the gpus then by the asics.

I have a foot in both camps. And can shift either way.
28602  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 06, 2016, 02:36:58 AM
it magically comes & go at the same spot ! jeeez

"X" marks the spot ? i noticed few are seeing the magical "X"

well before bmt posts, my voltage is 12.4V on load ! so it ain't a PSU problem.

nope I am guessing this gear is simply less durable due to chip size of 14-16 nm

I think a lot of units are going to fail at a higher rate then any other bitmaintech product.

Symptoms seem to be happening with many miners in many places.

I suggest to down clock  a bit always keep temps at 65-95 as best you can.
Hope for the best with the gear.

makes no or little difference imo. agree on the chip size though.

let's hope it does not spread ....

my prediction for next batches . . .

price is gonna go UP ! not expecting them to be cheaper .

you could be right   always a down clock on the august batch and it died in under a day.

I will be holding back for now on the s-9 and the r4.

I may get an avalon 7 or 2.

Meanwhile gpu mining seems to be saving me.

I may expand the gpus as the s-9's fail
28603  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 06, 2016, 02:25:18 AM
it magically comes & go at the same spot ! jeeez

"X" marks the spot ? i noticed few are seeing the magical "X"

well before bmt posts, my voltage is 12.4V on load ! so it ain't a PSU problem.

nope I am guessing this gear is simply less durable due to chip size of 14-16 nm

I think a lot of units are going to fail at a higher rate then any other bitmaintech product.

Symptoms seem to be happening with many miners in many places.

I suggest to down clock  a bit always keep temps at 65-95 as best you can.
Hope for the best with the gear.

I had 2 ship on June 12th they will be off warranty on Sept 12th > one dead board after 70 days
I had 2 ship on June 21st they will be off warranty on Sept 21st
I had 1 ship on June 27th it will be off warranty on Sept 27th
I had 1 ship on Aug  17th it will be off warranty on Nov 17th >>>> this had a dead board in under 10 hours

This gear could be very painful if it continues to fail for lots of us.
28604  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 06, 2016, 01:54:22 AM

I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

-0.3  = Veves1

+0.1 = cpfreeplz

+0.5 = moe7865

+ 0.8 = Lindin99

+1.1 = blindminer
+1.2 = edonkey
+1.3 = HerbPean
+1.4 = Leowonderful

+1.7 = fr4nkthetank

+1.9 = BBHex
+2.0 = albertamining
+2.1 = slastar

+2.4 = NeuroticFish

+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.1 = tertius993

+3.5 = Last of the V8s

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics
28605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Trying to make a list of the rx 480's hash rate power and settings etc. on: September 05, 2016, 11:43:52 PM
yes, with mattman

auto correct sucks Grin

I use watt man    Grin pesky autocorrect



------------------------------------------------------------

hey how many are trying some xmr instead of eth

I have 13 cards to eth

I have 8 cards to xmd
-------------------------------------------------------------

@ Havane why choose solo mining?

 26.7mh needs a long time to hit a block

ether miner pool is good


http://ethermine.org/
28606  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 05, 2016, 11:38:27 PM



I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

-0.3  = Veves1

+0.5 = moe7865

+ 0.8 = Lindin99

+1.2 = edonkey
+1.3 = HerbPean
+1.4 = Leowonderful

+1.9 = BBHex
+2.0 = albertamining
+2.1 = slastar

+2.4 = NeuroticFish

+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.1 = tertius993

+3.5 = Last of the V8s

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics
28607  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: So, only one Bitcoin miner on market right now. on: September 05, 2016, 10:38:58 PM
Why keep it for themselves though? When they can make a killing producing one  from a low cost then put an exorbitant pricetag on it for people to buy. People will still buy them anyway, as long as the miner pushes for more THS than the last one, the buying public will see it and be blind to the price.

You don't go to a gun fight with a knife.

No one really fights bitmaintech with ASIC sales.  So no one has been able to release a better cheaper miner.

So Avalon builds a close miner and sells it at a higher price so as not to offer real competition.

Bitfury builds in house gear and avoids it all together .   The best most competitive way to mine btc is with a gpu rig.

Huh ? Wtf ?
  No way .

Well mine eth or xmr with a gpu rig and convert to btc.

This is what bitmaintech is up against.

Frankly I think it is good for all.

So when Avalon releases the 7
I want it to be a 0.08 to .11 watt miner.  And I want it to be a little more costly then the s-9.

This will help gpu mining .  The last thing we need is a war with bitmaintech. And any ASIC company .

Bitmaintech will simply crush that company and in the process it will hurt the btc price.

Same as when. Bitmaintech did battle with spondoolies.
28608  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 05, 2016, 05:25:17 PM
Hi all,

Recently I bought some of the S9 B12 miners. They seems to be pretty unstable and some of the miners require restarting and rebooting.

The other problem I have is that on few miners only 2 out of 3 boards are beeing deteted, one board is not shown in the stats at all. I'm using Bitmain PSU and I tried replacing the PSU as well as rebooting the miner and updating the software. Does anyone has any solution to this problem ?

Also on one S9 there're not boards detected at all and in the Hardware Version it shows: "   Socket connect failed: Connection refused"

Thank you for your help



Sorry for your issues.  You are not the only person with these problems.

 Are you in USA or Canada? If you are you may want to contact bitmainwarranty

I have a thread here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1599630.0


give it a read.

another thread here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914354.0

one more thread here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576941.0
28609  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 05, 2016, 04:21:52 PM


I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

-0.3  = Veves1

+0.5 = moe7865

+ 0.8 = Lindin99

+1.2 = edonkey

+1.9 = BBHex

+2.1 = slastar

+2.4 = NeuroticFish

+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.1 = tertius993

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics
28610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 25 / 40 Thousand dollar mining rig parts on: September 05, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
Big question remains..

470/480?
4GB/8GB?

(only advantage of the 480 is that it sells better in 1-2 years..)



go for a mix

½ 4gb

½ 8gb

look for best prices


Question how do you plan to keep area cooled off.

The climate here in holland is beginning to cool rapidly now, in a month it will be around 10C.
The rigs will be set up inside a old shed with good ventilation (and some extra fan's ofcourse) and we will just check it for a little while. Maybe some extra airco.

Why a mix or 4/8gb?

4gb are 200 usd vs 8gb 250 usd

so while the 4gb may do a little less hash it is 50 usd cheaper

8gb will stick around long with eth since they can do a bigger dag

due to 2x the memory.
28611  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: September 05, 2016, 02:16:49 PM
Hi guys,

I've been trying to read up on overclocking my S9s, now before you roll your eyes at my post, I understand the waranty implications and I am certain it will run hotter. My question is, is anybody doing it? If not, what are the risks/disadvantages?

Also, why is Bitmain bringing out a 11,85 that runs at 550MHz, a 12.93 running at 600MHz the 14.0 running at 650Mhz. Surely this can't be the same machine running at different frequencies?

I'm trying to understand this concept but there really not much to read up on, on google Undecided



so you have a 11.85 miner rated at 550 and you want to over clock the freq to  say 600  hoping to make more cash correct?

don't  just trust me.

but if you want a long explanation I can give you one via pm.


Hey WTF is the clone site?  is it a kano site or a rip off?
28612  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 05, 2016, 02:02:41 PM



I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

-0.3  = Veves1

+0.5 = moe7865

+ 0.8 = Lindin99

+1.2 = edonkey

+1.9 = BBHex

+2.1 = slastar

+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics
28613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 25 / 40 Thousand dollar mining rig parts on: September 05, 2016, 11:11:40 AM
Big question remains..

470/480?
4GB/8GB?

(only advantage of the 480 is that it sells better in 1-2 years..)



go for a mix

½ 4gb

½ 8gb

look for best prices


Question how do you plan to keep area cooled off.
28614  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 05, 2016, 11:08:10 AM
I understand that they price the miner at $1442 for B12, but what about NOT matching the btc price.
Currently, price is 4083 RMB, which is $610.82
OR coinbase price is $609.9 OR bitfinex $611.86

NOWHERE it is 1442/2.431=$593

Is it so difficult to link it to the "real time" price?
I will help you:
http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/

  Grin  Labor day weekend prices will update on tues. Grin


 Grin  means this was an attempt to be funny.
28615  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 05, 2016, 11:02:15 AM


I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

+0.5 = moe7865

+ 0.8 = Lindin99

+1.2 = edonkey

+1.9 = BBHex

+2.1 = slastar

+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics
28616  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S9 Hashing Board Issue on: September 05, 2016, 03:39:27 AM
Drop freq to 593 then show a ten minute screen shot.

If x does not go away drop freq to 587 then show a screen shot after ten ,minutes .

What country do you live In?

You will spend a lot of money shipping to,bitmaintech in China .

I am using Colorado and bitmainwarranty I have a thread on my warranty issues in hardware.

I won't ship to China since it costs more then 100 usd to ship 1 dead board.  Plus you have to list the board as 45 value. So if it gets lost or broken you can only be insured for 45 usd.

Try to contact bitmainwarranty if,you live in the usa
28617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 25 / 40 Thousand dollar mining rig parts on: September 05, 2016, 03:06:32 AM
why celeron g1840

see if you can get g1840t

18 watts less


and when you use a celeron they do tend to use more of the cpu

I highly doubt this.  I have a couple rigs with G1840 CPUS, and load while mining eth is <5%.
If I remember correctly, idle power use with no GPUs installed (running off the iGPU) was ~25W.


It may vary from mobo to mobo. 

I don't have any g1840's anymore

I do have:

 pentium g4500
 pentium g4400
 i3 6100t

give me some time  I will photo them but as I recall my pentiums are always higher cpu loads then the i3 6100t.

I am running 8 pcs 24/7  with various cpu's  the t's simply do lower watts on all of the ones I have.
28618  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] DPS-4K (dual DPS-2000BB) sideplates to accomodate 120mm case fans on: September 05, 2016, 02:50:50 AM
All current orders have shipped out! Anyone interested in plates can go ahead with payment and PM me signed messages with address/confirmation, or if you are unable to sign messages PM me for a custom BTC address for your order.  Thanks!  Looking forward to some feedback from the first purchasers.

nice looking forward to using them.
28619  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25 picks are open> on: September 05, 2016, 02:42:17 AM


I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

+0.5 = moe7865

+1.2 = edonkey



+2.7 = gt_addict

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom
28620  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: September 05, 2016, 01:53:08 AM
beat me to it
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