@grondilu:
brave new world: just as a mobile phone is a modern necessity
Well, I don't have a mobile phone (or at least none with an active SIM card). Yet, I'm still breathing.
in that book, many other luxuries had become (let's say frivolous) necessities, and the point of existence was simply to spend. there were no police, because they weren't necessary - social engineering had obtained the desired result.
I don't get it. Do you actually whish you lived in Huxley's world ?
My point is that people suffer *exactly* because some seek personal gain at the expense of others
Most people here think that personal gain doesn't have to be at the expense of others. We beleive free market is a win-win game. Most of the things I use in my every day life come from free market, i.e. from people wanting to reach personal gain. I'm thankful to them.
We all do that in one way or another, and we all suffer because of all the others that do it. We're all selfish, 'cos that's how we're 'programmed'. Really, check out the prisoner's dilemma - when there are only two they can easily cooperate, but when there are 7 billion, cooperation becomes extraordinarily unlikely.
F.cking prisonner dilemma, I always forget about it. Nah, I don't see it as important as you seem to think. Yes, cooperation is usefull. But please let people make their own associations and decide how and with whom they want to cooperate. Forced cooperation is not cooperation, it's slavery.
If I hoard (under deflation), then people who *need* money to buy bread will suffer - the fact that the price is decreasing means nothing because they have no money. I gain, they lose.
If they have no money then money has become useless and people will use an other one. It's just an accounting tool, it's not real wealth, damned it ! Think about this.
PS. The very success of bitcoin could prove this point. We're not happy with national currencies, so we're using a new one.
cut off arm: some people have done this and more. They're called martyrs. I'm not a martyr. Look at the riots in Egypt and Tunisia - people confronting police and suffering brutality, because they want a better society for everyone.
So
Some people kill themselves too. It's not because some people do silly or desperate things that I should copy them.