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2881  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 03, 2011, 05:56:28 PM
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[03:51] <[Tycho]> On how many getworks/sec did you started to get problems in the first time ?
[03:51] <slush1> I think around 30ghash, not sure which getwork/s it was

Nobody is lying here. Yes, in my case on 30ghash/s the bitcoind started to fail. But it is not related to hashrate, but to getworks/sec. As you're using the same core as me, you'll hit the same problems later.

But maybe no, because you know (from me) that there will be problems with bitcoind. That's the point. Btw, my pool software (not bitcoind) can handle thousands of getworks per second and I never had problems with speed of my custom software.

(Bts it's nice example of another issue, in the times when I made the pool, running more instances of bitcoind on the same machine was not possible because of hardcoded listening on the 8333 port.)
2882  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Instant-Payout Mining - BitPenny.com on: March 03, 2011, 05:47:40 PM
BTC is not a meaningful unit of rate.  Please update bitpenny.com to publish the actual unit, maybe it's BTC/s, BTC/h, BTC/day or BTC/getwork; I have no idea. Thanks.

But BTC per share IS meaningful rate...
2883  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 03, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
My pool software is much more efficient, so i don't see any problems with number of clients.

Hehe, don't say this - you are still on 30ghashes, I had no problems on this speed, too (and also don't have problem at current 90ghash/s).

And please don't forget that lot of issues was caused by non optimized miners; I spent weeks with miner developers to find those glitches and bugs. The last huge improvement was support for long living HTTP connections, this was the reason why I closed the pool registrations, because hundreds of miners connecting every few seconds literally DDoSed the server with SYN floods.

I never had troubles with speed of pool software itself and I see your statement as little unfair, because you didin't have to solve 90% of troubles which I had. Just my 2 cents...
2884  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (90Ghash/s) on: March 03, 2011, 05:07:45 PM
Are you working on something or is there a problem ?

No, it should work fine.
2885  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading risks on: March 03, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
If you don't want to take risk of bitcoin price fluctuations, you should quote your BTC prices using actual exchange ratio and "hedge" yourself with counter trades on mtgox. That means - immediately as you accept bitcoins, you sell the same amount on mtgox.

This can be fully automated and then you can receive Bitcoins, but don't take the exchange risk.
2886  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (90Ghash/s) on: March 02, 2011, 08:39:34 PM
Once, a few days ago, I noticed it said it had found a block, I was like Cool. Smiley  I haven't seen that before, or since.  I saw on the website that I got a reward equal to about 1/3 of a bitcent.  LOL  

In the pool terminology, you found one "share", which is only small piece in the finding of valid Bitcoin block.

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Right now it is set to use 25 CPU threads, and khash/s is about 85 to 100.  If I set many more CPU threads the computer will hang and crash.

I don't know miner you are using, but I expect you should set one thread per real CPU core. I doubt you have 25 core machine :-).

Also, mining with 85-100 khash/s is absolutely worthless. You probably spent much more money on electricity. With your computation power, you'll earn 50 BTC in 32511 days (yes, almost 90 years). I recommend you to turn off mining on this machine...
2887  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: CreateTransaction: suggest/enforce fee for big low-priority transactions on: March 02, 2011, 12:05:53 AM
I can see a possible use case for a "mass pay" feature, but that does not really solve the problem here, where slush is generating a bunch of free transactions.

This is not about pool itself; pool is just one of the first case for large amount of tiny transactions. In my specific case, I can (in the future) include my own transactions into the next mined block for free (or with fees paid to myself Smiley.

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You wind up with the same end result: stalled transactions.  The root cause of the problem is that the pool is generating a lot of work for the network, without paying for it.  This is called Tragedy Of The Commons, or less graciously, free-loading.

I'll be happy with not spamming the network, but this is not the real problem; I solve my case somehow (rising sending threshold, including txes into my own block). But other people will hit the same problem later and maybe some of them won't be so kind to save Bitcoin network resources - so we're talking generally about general scalability of Bitcoin transactions and about the painless way how to avoid this. I think we all agree that current infrastructure for fee negotiation is not powerfull enough at this time.

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So, I would support the following tweaks,

  • Convert 27k free-TX area to purely score-based, eliminating 4000-byte limit
  • Make -limitfreerelay the default
  • Add a mass-pay JSON-RPC method, provided that the user interface requires a TX fee parameter (NOTE: zero is a valid TX fee)
  • Reduce dust-spam/fee triggers from 0.01 to 0.001

I'm perfectly fine with that.

It would be also nice to allow specific fee for every single transaction using JSON RPC. Then I can quickly introduce new settings for pool users - they will be able to choose if they want to pay fees for their withdrawals or not. It effectively move the decision about spamming of bitcoin network from me to them. (I'm pretty sure that those people withdrawing every 0.1 won't select fees, but they can spam network from their clients with zero-fee transactions as well).
2888  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: CreateTransaction: suggest/enforce fee for big low-priority transactions on: March 01, 2011, 11:11:46 PM
Can we make it easier to create multi-output txn for peole like slush to distribute to large lists?

+1
2889  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: March 01, 2011, 10:48:24 PM
My hash rate is around 340125 khash/sec, this is my plunge:

Expected daily reward for current difficulty  for 340Mhas/s is 6.15 BTC, so it looks correct...
2890  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~25 Gh/s on: March 01, 2011, 10:45:56 PM
Mostly, I am interested in how pay-per-share is determined.

One share in pay-per-share mode is 45 BTC / (current difficulty)
2891  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~25 Gh/s on: March 01, 2011, 09:45:45 PM
Please set your getwork request period to 5 seconds of you are using longer one.

Do you check validity of submitted shares? I mean, does your json interface return "false" when the share has older prevhash than the current bitcoin block is?

Originally I counted everything, but changed it right because those miners with very long ask period...
2892  Economy / Marketplace / Re: CoinCard - Buying PayPal $ and gift cards with Bitcoin on: March 01, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
I'm not quite sure what's causing the bitcoin daemon to stop responding to API requests.  I'm opening CoinCard and leaving CoinPal closed to see if it happens again.

Check your disk free space. I had similar problem when I was very near to 0.
2893  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: March 01, 2011, 05:59:32 PM
slush, any idea when registrations will be reopened?

I decided to completely rewrite the pool core and avoid using standard bitcoin client. This is quite big project and I don't see it's finish yet. So no, I currently don't have an idea when the new pool will be up.
2894  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: March 01, 2011, 03:41:47 PM
TLD is .cz, but server is really located in London.

I've also noticed my 7-day average go down quite a bit since Feburary 8th for reasons I cannot understand.

Difficulty?
2895  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: February 28, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
For the past 1-2 hours getting RPC errors & server down for maintenance...

Listener for "slush's pool": 28/02/2011 14:27:00, Server temporarily down for maintenance

I see that one pool instance underperform a bit, which may also explain problems of ronaldmaustin reported few hours before. I'll try to fix it tomorrow, but I'm busy right now. Unfortunately there is not any hot fix possible; pool uses sticky sessions, which mean that specific worker is always going to the same instance.

Edit: My apologize to all for the last batch of "Connection timed out", I tried to fix it and had to restart the server. I think I wasn't succesfull Smiley, but I will definitely solve ronaldmaustin's and dishwara's problem tomorrow.
2896  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: February 28, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
Im a lot less lucky, in slush pool found 9 blocks, but my balance is just shy of 300.

This is normal variance. For example, I have two identical miners, both 1.2 ghash/s, running for the same time. One found 19 blocks, second one 34...
2897  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: February 28, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
Don't worry folks, a new pool is just around the corner, and every share will be treated fairly and equally.

* slush is searching his pool switching proxy

Wink
2898  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: February 28, 2011, 11:47:18 AM
Thank you for this great graph.  It helps prove that this type of "weighted" system is completely unnecessary and flawed.

FairUser, you show again and again, that you completely don't understand the problematics. You are wrong, because this graph shows the oposite that you think, because it shows cheater rewards INCLUDING anti-cheating policies.

The best what cheater can give is +3% in his reward, but with very low probability, because the time to connect to the pool will vary in the future. Simply said, the time from round beginning is not fixed to 2000 second, it is just historical statistics. In the oposite, with share based pool, cheater can give fixed +25% (if I remember the number well) _all_the_time_, because the time to start cheating is well known (it is start of the new round).

By the way, feel free to introduce new pool, but, please, stop trolling here. If you don't like my services, don't use them.
2899  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>70Ghash/s) on: February 28, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
I know it's normal for a random distribution. And its even more normal for a pool in which the strong help the weak.

Yes, it is strange, but this is probability. Many people told me that they were lucky with the pool, then they disconnect and didn't find any block in solo for multiplies of average time :-). My advice - choose solo or pool (depends on personality and hashing power) and keep it. Switching from pool, when you feel lucky and connecting to the pool, when you feel unlucky is the road to the hell, you are cutting your reward by bad management :-).

I found 80 blocks (=4000BTC) for the pool and my total payout is 4017 BTC, so I can say it really converge to expected reward distribution :-).
2900  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: python OpenCL bitcoin miner on: February 28, 2011, 10:04:16 AM
"problems communicating with RPC server" or something of the like.

not much point using this program if it cannot reliably mine 24/7.

This error does not mean that program crashed. It just inform you that there was trouble on network side, but it can recover easily. No restart or whatever needed...
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